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Old thread here >>14088473

Server information to follow probably.

Yoyo nerf when?

>>14178882

Never.

What's the comfiest way to play SP vanilla?

>>14178890

All it really needs is the second Yoyo from the Glove/Bag to no longer be a thing, that alone means even a mid-tier Hardmode yoyo shits on the Terrablade/Influx Weaver which are the best pre-moonlord swords. Not even mentioning the range they have with the string and the counterweight.

Other potential changes could be them bouncing off of things more so they're harder to control, the inability to crit, etc.

>>14178983

>All it really needs is the second Yoyo from the Glove/Bag to no longer be a thing

THEN WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE YOYO GLOVE/BAG YOU GOD DAMN RETARD?

>>14178894

>Roll up a medium expert world

>Run left to forest, then snow, then corruption biome

>Yikes, go into snow hill

>Make some boreal armor, go deep

>Hit a marble and granite biome

>Wall off the centurion guys, fuck that noise

>Granite elemental sneaks up on me

>Kill it, after some effort

>Night vision helmet

Wow

>>14178991

>>14178983

The best solution I think would be for the yoyo bag not clone your main yoyo but require you to have a second yo yo in your inventory and use that as the second yoyo. Maybe ignore two yoyo's of the same type as well.

>>14179022

That wouldn't make a damn difference, having two mid-tier hardmode Yoyos or Eye of Cthulu+Terrarian would still shit on all alternatives. If anything it would be worse in the case of mid-tier as you could have the Hel-Fire and Amarok inflicting On Fire and Frostburn at the same time.

>>14179044

Why do you care? Are you a big name in the Terraria Esports PVP League or some gay shit? I'll sit over here having fun with my stupid yoyo weapons, feel free to use any weapon class you want. I think it's hilarious that yoyos are the best weapon type in this game simply because Redigit loves yoyos in real life.

>>14179044

Damage scaling goes completely to hell in hardmode anyway.

The only thing else I could think of is to make yoyos, flails, and boomerangs their own class that don't scale off of melee multipliers.

>Snowball cannon

Holy shit this thing's legit, I thought it was a shitty item that did like 6, it's doing like 14-18 plus crits

>>14179064

>>14179068

>these tween tier arguments

Niggers they're fucking broken compared to any other melee weapon and make them obsolete. The game obviously isn't some competitive shit but considering it has a structured PvE component there should at least be some semblance of parity between alternative weapons. At the moment there's no fucking point making the true swords or Terrablade since you can drop an Amarok or Hel-Fire piss easy then faceroll Hardmode even on expert. Just because a game is PvE oriented or "casual" doesn't mean there's no requirement for balance.

For example the penetrating weapons at endgame in Steamworld Heist are pretty fucking powerful compared to the earlier weapons since you can practically wipe a room with them if you line a shot up correctly, but this requires positioning on top of lucky enemy lineups and so forth. They are straight up better, but it's not by some obscene margin and the alternative weapons at least maintain some level of parity. In Terraria if you're Melee and using anything but a Yoyo you're actively crippling yourself.

>>14179271

>Yoyos need toned down. What I primarily want is Melee as a whole to get some change that brings it more on par with Ranged/Magic without having Yoyos be practically mandatory.

Then that just goes back to melee being the beam sword class.

On the other hand spears DO need to be buffed quite a bit.

None of the last dozen of updates made me interested in replaying, they didn't change the game substantially to warrant it. Once I was done with the Moon Lord around the time it came out I was pretty much done with the game. It's alright, but pretty grindy, progression and gameplay quality seriously decreases once starting hardmode.

When's server 2.0 going to be up? I can't play tomorrow (or any Thursday for that matter). I was thinking of rolling melee this time, or pure minions if there's not enough class variety

>>14178692

>1.3.6

Reeee give me a sequel, the graphics and engine suck ass.

>>14179118

Melee was badly executed in general, it was pretty hard to hit stuff with the short reach and limited angle and there weren't any real advantages so they went "let's make melee ranged, haha"

>>14178894

Hardcore Expert ironman

>>14179348

>The graphics suck

Maybe, but is the only game of this kind that is consistent on blocks maybe because of how crude it is. In something like starbound you can't barely tell a block from the other. The same reason why something like minecraft is popular even if it looks crude: It's functional. That being said, the engine is at the absolute limit and the dev keep stretching it.

>>14178983

>>14179064

I dunno which Expert hardmode you all have been playing but even with a glove or bag I still find yoyos generally too dangerous to use. Does that change after Plantera or something? My very short experience with chlorophyte and shroomite armor tells me probably not.

>>14179442

I honestly think yoyos are relatively balanced. The only thing that makes then somewhat overpowered is their controllability compared to other melee damage types. Most yoyos have a use duration and can be kept out permanently and only one yoyo has projectiles.

Can there be a second fresh server anytime soon that isn't post moonlord?

Also since I heard some other guy want it vanilla, I would suggest at least adding Thorium and I guess maybe Fargowiltas if that's possible

Is the next Terraria game still going to use the shitty C# or something? It's incredible how the pirated Terraria version tends to crash pretty often or bugging out in MP which is noticeable by being not able to write anything in chat.

>>14178928

Terraria 2 probably isn't even in the works yet. Otherworld is not a proper successor and has a different gameplay focus so it doesn't count.

>>14180600

I've never had Terraria crash and I have over 1500 hours in it.

>>14179462

Yoyos are way worse than magic and ranged in late game. They are generally better overall than most melee weapons, HOWEVER the main reasons I would want to use a melee weapon at all are for close quarters and piercing, neither of which yoyos do very well at all.

So if you want a weapon for general use and absolutely must use a "melee" weapon, you pick a yoyo. If you just want the best weapon for the situation you pretty much never pick a yoyo unless that's all you got.

>>14178926

I can never get past hardmode. I love the dungeon crawling and digging and bulding, but the bosses are just so fucking clunky. Doing things like autistically building a platform that spans the entire map so you can fight one boss just isn't enjoyable to me.

>>14180851

>stop spazzing on balance the game is as hard as you want it to be.

Look if you want to play a shitty non-game just play Minecraft. Balance is a legit discussion for actual games.

Speaking of balance, anyone ever feel like most of the pre-hardmode magic weapons are underpowered? Water Bolt is pretty good and Demon Scythe is fantastic, but I don't ever feel like wasting my precious gems on staves.

>>14180851

Those are pretty beautiful,wonder how long they took to make.

>>14181149

I don't know about that there's several pre hardmode magic weapons that are pretty nice: space gun, vilethorn, crimson rod, bee gun, flower of fire. Aqua scepter doesn't entirely suck.

>but I don't ever feel like wasting my precious gems on staves

That's what the amber staff is for.

I do wish there were very low level craftable weapons for magic users and summoners though. Something that's wooden bow/wooden sword tier.

>>14180797

>>14180944

Wasn't otherworld supposed to be the middleman in the waiting for Terraria 2? You'd thing they'd work on them simultaneously, specially since a different team was handling Otherworld, as so, I expected that Terraria 2 was in the works already. Even if it isn't and otherworld was a trainwreack, working on the first game still is stupid. The main dev should move to either of the other projects while letting an small team work on future updates of Terraria 1.

>>14181149

The game is pretty balanced as it is, the only problem being Melee at some point.

>>14181486

>That's what the amber staff is for.

Yeah… After you mine some 500 or more desert fossil blocks to actually get the material you need. I'd rather put that valuable amber into crate potions honestly.

>>14181486

Oh right, Space Gun and Bee Gun are pretty nice. Of what use is Flower of Fire ? Especially when you've got a mighty Demon Scythe?

bump

s-server?

>Melee/Yoyo Discussion

Would this be solved by making all swords/spears multiplied in size to where using Clouds sword from Final Fantasy 7 is the smallest size? Since that keeps it "Melee" while increasing striking radius.

>>14182026

>"Fuck you, this horse you've given me is far too long in the tooth"

>>14182230

>stop being entitled

>>>/reddit/

Little bit of Terraria history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraria#Development_and_release

>Terraria was developed by Re-Logic beginning in January 2011, and is built on the Microsoft XNA framework. Re-Logic was composed of Andrew Spinks, who designed and programmed the game, Finn Brice, who along with Spinks did the graphic design for the game, and Jeremy Guerrette, who was a production assistant at Re-Logic, but left shortly after the game's release.[citation needed] The music was composed by Scott Lloyd Shelly. The game was released for Microsoft Windows on May 16, 2011.

And concerning the original dude, Andrew Spinks:

>It was announced that version 1.3, the game's third major content update, would be the last on which Spinks would work personally, and that the developers Yorai Omer and Skiphs would take over programming, and Whitney "Cenx" Baird, would take over as lead designer.

So who is working on Terraria these days?

>On July 25, 2016, 505 Games announced that the 1.3 update would not be ported to Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, or PlayStation Vita, citing issues with the consoles' performance. It was also announced that Engine Software and Codeglue would no longer be working on the console and mobile versions respectively and that a new studio, Pipeworks, would take over the development of those versions.

Looks like Spinks hasn't tweeted since September last year:

https://twitter.com/demilogic

http://www.terrariaotherworld.com/

>Re-Logic and Pipeworks Studio have combined forces to develop the next progression in the open world/sandbox arena: Terraria: Otherworld.

Can anyone find anything recent about release dates (even tentative) for Otherworld?

>>14181149

Diamond Staff is pretty powerful early on and doesn't use many Diamonds but it's best to check the Dungeon as soon as possible to see if Water Bolt has spawned above 0 depth.

>>14180845

>spans the entire map

There aren't any bosses you should have to do this for, making really long platforms so you can just keep running while shooting at the boss chasing you the whole time is full cheese mode. You can usually make 2-4 platforms about a screen or two wide with 10-15 blocks height between them with some regen items and blocks for cover and that should be ample for dealing with bosses. This setup should only take ~20 minutes to put together and besides bosses restricted to a particular region you can then re-use that arena.

>>14182143

If a Flail is a melee weapon, then why isn't a yoyo?

>>14182026

>Terraria has already shit tons of NPC

Not enough. When I think about making a village I rapidly run out NPC's to populate it. I wish we even had generic NPCs just for aesthetic purposes. Not everyone makes a castle or a commieblock fort for their people to live in.

>There aren't any bosses you should have to do this for

Well expert Moonlord if you're using the mechanical cart is sort of like that.

>>14183339

The map-long platform is really good for the Twins and Moonlord. It's also really useful for traversing the map, so you might as well.

>>14183379

because yoyos have a fuckton of optional modifiers like strings and counterweights

They're still developing? I haven't played Terraria in years.

>>14184688

Then you have no idea. Start a fresh playthrough pronto.

>>14183667

Agreed not enough but they need to start pacing the characters better and making the aquirment of them more involved. I liked finding them or having certain guidelines for getting them.

>>14179159

How is this coming along?

>>14185648

I had a busy day today so I didnt get a chance to play it.

I wish the worldgen was more varied. The macro features are more or less the same. Thinking of trees, a coastal or jungle fort would have been cooler, but more annoying and less useful than just making it at spawn

>>14185658

>I wish the worldgen was more varied. The macro features are more or less the same.

I do too. I think they standardized worldgen a little too much in the past several major updates.

When will they add something new in terms of gameplay? The last few updates and seemingly the next one are just tweaks and visual stuff.

>>14182322

>release dates (even tentative) for Otherworld

The last progress update was along the lines of "it's shit so we're starting over", expecting a "release date" is a bit unrealistic.

>>14186064

In fact it might be worse than "we're having to start over from scratch". I get the impression that it's more like "we're having to comb through Engine's shitty code and other assets because there are some good nuggets in there and we can't monetarily justify trashing all of it."

>>14186368

Make you wonder what mistakes the original team made. Were they too slow? Did they try turning into a Clash of Clans ripoff?

Maybe they made nothing but screenshots and there was no actual game underneath.

Bumping. Will post my second base eventually.

Helicopter when?

>>14185681

The problem is that they keep trying to shove more stuff into the same amount of map space. This ends up creating less space for each individual thing.

>>14189405

They could remedy that somewhat by limiting corruption/crimson to one instance per world and getting rid of little deserts since deserts are they're own proper biome now.

Yeah why do corruption and crimson need so many instances anyway? Would anything be lost if there was only one in a world? Am I just whining because I want an easier time trekking to the edge of the map to fish a Reaver Shark?

>>14179276

>not Truffle

>not Cultist

>>14178692

>(((someone))) made it so the blond nurse is dating the brown NPC

Hmmmmmmmmmm……

>>14189653

Nurse was always a slut. This is nothing new.

>>14189653

What are you talking about?

>>14190118

I always imagined Nurse to be a sarcastic, slightly chubby middle-aged lady rather than a young horny broad.

Now that I think about it, the writing for the NPCs is pretty awful. They're full of memey references and unfunny remarks.

Is there any wiki or comprehensive resource for Terraria modding? I've never really had any motivation to into modding or programming for other games but there are some tweaks I'd like to make that I assume wouldn't be too strenuous.

>>14190292

They're mostly just for utility, the stuff they say is filler.

>>14190219

Well she's wearing a pretty scandalous costume for that.

>>14189609

Well, originally the main theme of terraria was MCs fight against corruption/crimson and free the world out of them. I do agree that it should be a single big patch instead of several small patches, specially since there will be more once you beat WoF.

>>14193295

It's like you expect mods to not be memey self-referential circlejerks or something.

>>14191597

Don't they have recipe browser? IIRC you can check what drops what with it, either that or that was in the planned features for it. Failing that check the gamepedia wikis for each mod as they're usually the most comprehensive.

>>14193295

>nothing wrong with commieblocks

wtf?

is this leftypol now?

>>14194124

Easily the coolest ugly build I've ever seen.

Fucking inspired.

>>14190219

Shit that's nice. Stalin would be proud.

>>14196052

>not putting the dryad on top to peep at her from below

>>14196690

That thing looks pretty neat yeah. Has the usual shotgun stuff plus the explosive projectile which will whack things with high defense nicely. I wish there were hotkeys you could bind to change ammo types quickly as the shotguns really seem like they benefit from switching ammo types frequently. Crystal rounds for crowd control, Ichor for meaty targets, etc.

>>14179348

Any word on what engine they're using in their sequel and spinoff?

>>14199237

Probably its own made from scratch engine.

>>14203880

Are you using any mods?

>>14203900

>>14203899

fucking 8chan, at least I got dubs

>>14203920

There's a server up?

>>14203972

If there is I'm building a device that will flood the world in honey.

>>14189653

BURN THE COAL

PAY THE TOLL

Whenever I play expert mode I always lose my motivation a bit before the wall of flesh.

>>14217761

I lose my motivation if it's not multiplayer because it's boring as fuck otherwise.

>>14217761

>>14217776

Maybe you lack autism? I could spend all day tunneling around.

>>14190462

>>14191597

This is the wiki you seek:

https://github.com/blushiemagic/tModLoader/wiki

You can get an idea of how the code works using the ExampleMod:

https://github.com/blushiemagic/tModLoader/tree/master/ExampleMod

>>14218402

I kinda feel the same pre-hardmode as for most of it you could find stuff underground that is useful or better than your current gear. Once you reach Hardmode most of the time you're only going to find junk underground that you'll just flog for some money. You don't really need to explore underground to get the Hardmode ores as you can fish or just check the roof of hell which is safer than braving the hardmode underground mobs with weak gear. The only point at which you really need to explore is finding life fruit and chlorophyte. It doesn't help that exploring isn't very tense unless you play on hardcore. Death on Mediumcore is just tedious since all you have to do is throw on backup gear, trek back to where you died while avoiding mobs then teleport home and re-organize.

I find a lot of more open-ended games have this problem where the hobo phase is the most engaging then once you break out of it most activities are no longer very interesting. In the hobo phase you will generally have a whole bunch of different goals and can have fun working towards each of them. Once you get out of it you generally only have one or two goals as most side activities end up being pointless unless they tickle your autism bone.

>>14184156

You don't need huge ass platform for Moonlord, not even on Expert.

The only boss that inexperienced people build such platforms is wall of flesh pretty much, if you don't want to build then work on your DPS instead, even if it means that you have to temporary switch your build to entirely different type of weapon.

vid related

What are some recommended mods that add more content to the game? I'm just looking for new things to do.

>>14218614

Problem with the hobo phase in Terraria is that the progression is so structured that you have an obvious route to success every time unless you gimp yourself somehow. The only gamechangers are whether you get red balloon/bottled cloud/flying carpet/early water bolt, everything else is a given. It could do with forced progression after a time limit or something.

>>14228528

Thorium

Calamity (latest version is mediafire com/file/q7bv1ma8mc71nf7/CalamityModV1.2.4.204.zip )

Spirit

Antiaris

Split

GRealm (mostly built around a new invasion event, has some cross-mod content)

Fargo's (for boss rushes and insane endgame items that'll motivate you to collect all kinds of random shit)

>new map

>3 blood moons in a row from the first night

>still no money trough

otherworld when

>>14236569

Soon(tm)

>>14237519

Which mod are you using to have exp/levels? This seems like the kind of question that gets asked all the time, but still.

>>14229241

>Calamity

Haha fuck no. That's a garbage-tier mod that totally fucks up vanilla's balance and is the Terraria equivalent of STALKER slavmods.

>>14178692

Are they finally going to implement infinite-range building and area-fill tools rather than having to manually place each square? Even with builder potion and max build speed, it can still take a minute or two to construct a wall for a large room, which is pretty painful.

When the fuck is tmodloader going to work for GOG copies? I have no fucking clue why it's a major undertaking when all that should be required is stripping the Steam API calls. Hell there's a map customizer thing called Terracustom that has tmodloader in the executable to support generating maps with mods that isn't bound to Steam, yet somehow this seemingly simple change hasn't made it back to tmodloader itself.

I'm guessing they'll include it when they update it for the 1.3.6 but considering they already made the stupid decision to bind it to Steam I'm uncertain.

>>14238507

Theres already gog version

>>14238759

Yes but it's several versions behind and requires Terraria <1.3.5, the guy who was maintaining it disappeared.

>>14238495

Maybe in 1.4.

>>14229241

>Spirits

Don't go for Spirits, it only adds bloat to your game that is tedious to no end.

>>14238291

I like Calamity but this is true.

The difficulty is ramped up to the extreme and only having the set pieces that make your armor raise to 100, grant you 7 minions and using the accessories that reduce damage by 800 or something can allow you to survive.

Calamity changes the game so Calamity becomes the focus, making anything you might find from other mods obsolete in terms of armor, accessories and weapons.

Case in point:

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/The_Absorber

Which is post cultist, granted but still it outclasses anything you might have had before.

>>14238507

you just need to do a hex edit to make it work iirc

>>14239286

>Spirit

I agree and I lost patience with it myself, but you could do worse if you're looking for more things to do.

>Calamity makes everything else obsolete

I haven't found this to be true. Thorium gives you viable alternatives way into post-ML and that's considered to be a "balanced" mod. I'll give you that Calamity's accessories are often completely fucking absurd, but you picked a bad example. It's shit like Seraph Tracers and the dash+no knockback shields which make Calamity gear mandatory for some of its bosses, not armor or DR for tanking better. It's about learning the patterns and not getting hit. In fact I think the mod has caps on %DR so you shouldn't be trying to stack it even if the boss design wasn't trying to push you away from it in the first place.

>>14238495

Never anon.

Are there any upcoming updates and/or existing mods for improving the Ocean biome?

The ocean has no right to be as boring as it is. Expand and deepen it to have explorable coral reefs, or something. Anything.

All it has now is one NPC spawn, a tree-type, and an optional boss. It stinks.

>>14246125

Thorium mod adds a biome that is located underneath one of the oceans on a world.

https://thoriummod.gamepedia.com/Aquatic_Depths

>>14224507

Very nice, just too much fuckery to get things in the background, I hope the secret changes are better ways to place backgrounds and "inactivated" blocks and tiles.

>>14246544

This is pretty much exactly what I want out of an underground ocean.

I want to run a 2-Player world with a friend between our barely compatible work schedules. Are there any other mods I should add alongside this one, or is Thorium solid on its own? Anything/Everything else in >>14229241 ?

I want some new stuff but don't want to bog the game down too much with tedium or absurd difficulty for two busy guys.

>>14237519

>Enemies with prefixes

What mod?

>>14248434

Thorium is great on its own. You might want to consider Fargo's if you're short on time; it's not really balanced but it will let you farm multiple bosses and make money quickly when you want to.

>>14246918

Furniture really should just be naturally stackable without having to resort to glitching. If I was doing something like this for one of my own builds I would probably just use the dynasty dresser rather than having to wonk around with the glass door, but then again I don't think they were in the game when he made that build anyway.

>>14248475

Enemy Affixes

https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/enemy-affixes.56134/

>>14180877

calm down

>>14178926

that beach house is rad

>>14274790

Nope I'm a badass motherfucker.

>>14214027

Put one in the dryad's commiebloc and say she has some dank kush.