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>>14143441

Music from Endless

>>14143459

> Fallout 3 has the best audiovisual atmosphere among all Fallout games

You spelled NV wrong

>>14143441

>And they're remastering it, when its only 13 years old.

You think that's bad? The Last of Us got a PS4 "Remaster" in July 2014. The PS3 original came out in June 2013. In other words, they started working on a remastered version before the original was even a year old. I've got no interest in those games, or modern Naughty Dog in general, but that seems like the sort of thing that screams "we could have done better from the start, but released what was ultimately a soon-to-be-subpar version; buy our new and improved one too" if you ask me.

>>14143441

>only 13 years old

That's not very old. That's basically prime between "people care about it" and "it's not worth working with hardware specific shit". I sure as fuck didn't expect ZOE 2 remake coming out now, since modern stuff can barely handle the particle effects it uses.

>>14143450

Endless Legend's OST will always make me hard.

>>14143466

I never got this "old west in futuristic setting" thingy. It was obviously the worst part of Fallout 2, and in NV it's just infuriating that the whole game's theme is centered around it. It's not even like the highly atmospheric and moody spaghetti western style, just the lame ass dull 50's hollywood westerns.

>>14143499

>Hey you fellow anons should also try out Skyrim 2 coming out Spring of 2020

Thanks fellow anonymous, i will be sure to pirate it as soon as it comes out

>>14143503

W-woah there anon, dont you think you should buy it and try it out that way? After all, if you like it then you have the satisfaction of supporting the developers!

>>14143151

stalker soc/cop, banished, gta 4, alan wake, deus ex, tes: oblivion, fallout new vegas, half-life, hotline miami, mafia 1, mass effect, the witcher 2

>>14143499

Thing to bear in mind is that these "remasters" are pretty much a graphics-upscale centric cashgrab (not "remakes", as some tend to equate them to), or to make more money via a system that isn't compatible with discs from said game's original systems. To be fair, sometimes this can work out well, making a previously hard to find game more available (as Yakuza 1 and 2 HD would have done so had they been released here; Yakuza 2 having been rather hard to find in the west in the past, before the reprint last year or so), or finally giving other region content that had remained exclusive to another region in its prior state, but generally it's the popular, easy to find games that get given the treatment, and actual technical quality of said HD versions has been all over the fucking place.

I can only really speak of how they were handled on the PS3 though; I don't have a PS4 myself so I'm not sure if those tend to be more often on the "improvement" side or not, other than the .hack//G.U. one having tweaked the combat itself and adding an apparent fourth volume (while apparently cutting some content and the combat tweaks apparently casualizing the games).

>>14143499

>you can literally just put the old one on the online marketplace

Can you? That's why I brought up ZOE, a game that really can't just be straight ported. People say "Oh wow now I can play in the swamp without lag". But did they actually fix that problem? There can be all sorts of reasons why a game might not work on older consoles.

>>14143441

I highly doubt you'll see Demon's Souls, or Bloodborne for that matter, ported to any other console/pc, unless its a Sony console.

I'm actually interested in the Dark Souls Remake, only because I'll finally get to play the DLC levels. I refuse to buy digital stuff.

>>14143565

>I refuse to buy digital stuff.

Annoys me that apparently PAL saw a complete version of Bloodborne with the DLC included on the disc, but SCEA told potential NA customers to go fuck themselves, leaving said content digital only here, be it buying it standalone for use with disc, or the digital complete version. I guess importing the PAL version is an option at least, though I'm not sure how that might affect multiplayer or possible patching needed (assuming it wasn't released as a "100% up to date, no further patches" thing).

>>14143521

GTA IV amazed me. They turned something from a contemporary setting into something that feels like a dystopian futurism, or even post apocalyptic. I love how dreary and wretched everything looks, it's an improvement upon GTA 3's vision.

The rest of those games, not so much. Oblivion mimicked Excalibur from 1981 and 1st LoTR movie, I'm okay with mimicking but it didn't captivate the feeling to the fullest. Hotline Miami is some of the most overstylized trash with too much cringy soyboy faux 80s. Mafia 1 did it better than other 30's game, but that's not saying much, outside the cutscenes it captured the 30's atmosphere really well though. STALKER's atmosphere is infinitely inferior to the book and the movie, they really dumbed down the intricate plot and characters' psychology into some generic scifi trash.

>>14143441

That is why it is imperative to subvert all marketing and make normalfags hate and loathe the big companies in the industry.

>>14143565

You should refuse to BUY any game at all. Entertainment must always be free.

Donate to small groups making games, if you want to pay. But mostly, don't pay for games. And NEVER give money to big companies.

>>14143602

>STALKER's atmosphere is infinitely inferior to the book and the movie, they really dumbed down the intricate plot and characters' psychology into some generic scifi trash.

Atmosphere and plot are not the same thing. STALKER is one of the most atmospheric games ever made, regardless of what you think about the plot, which was not even attempting to duplicate the book or the movie, and is far from being generic.

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>>14144069

>Atmosphere and plot are not the same thing

Most of the mood in Roadside Picnic and Tarkovsky's Stalker have much to owe to the metaphysics of the Zone, and the characters' background adds a deeper meaning into the atmosphere. And there's nothing wrong with not having the same plot, Tarkovsky's Stalker is almost entirely different from Roadside Picnic.

By reducing the metaphysics of the Zone into simple and straightforward science fiction with a few twists, and giving the characters zero background, GSC has turned STALKER into a generic science fiction. STALKER has no spirituality, no true mystery of the Zone, and the characters have 2 dimensional motivations. The Zone is just there as a catastrophic result of scientific practice and the characters' motivations are just either making money, uncovering the mystery of the Zone, or somewhere between the two. It's nothing but a generic science fiction. The book and film are much more than that, they involve and emphasize on raison d'etre and discovery of the self rather than finding the scientific explanation behind the Zone.

>>14144313

STALKER's atmosphere comes from the setting, the graphics and the sound.

>It's nothing but a generic science fiction.

I don't think you have actually played STALKER. In fact I don't think you play video games in general.

>>14144333

>STALKER's atmosphere comes from the setting, the graphics and the sound

Constantly overcast and gloomy sky, empty grey buildings that look like current year Norilsk, animals howling in the background, some anomalies glowing, annoying post rock soundtrack or whatever kids call it playing alongside the background noise, big deal. Without the metaphysics, it's just meaningless. I actually prefer the silent Zone in the film, the game's Zone would fit more in Fallout and Half Life than actual Stalker adaptation.

>>14144396

>Without the metaphysics, it's just meaningless.

Please get the fuck out of here. This is a video game board.

>>14144400

This is an atmosphere thread.

>>14144411

In VIDEO GAMES.

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>>14144313

Oh yeah and let's not forget

>Characters are two dimensional

Except when they aren't and despite the sanbox nature of the game letting players write their own characters without a need for narrative buklshit handholding.

>>14144457

What tile set is the first one?

STALKER, The Elder Scrolls III-V, Fallout 1-NV (1-2 especially), XCOM, Euro Truck Simulator, Metal Gear Solid.

These are the atmospheres that catch me most.

There man in garbageman

>>14144415

>I've seen pretensious hipsters in my life but this overcomes everything.

There's nothing pretentious about this. In fact, the STALKER writers were pretentious for trying to overcomplicate everything with their idea of what a plot should be.

>Except that's wrong and the Noosphere is actually something spiritual that still exists despite the events in SoC, you obviously haven't played the games you goddamned retard.

I know that the noosphere is. Some kind of manifestation of emotions or some shit that got leaked by the consciousness project or somewhere along those lines and changed how physics laws work around the Zone, somewhat a tiny bit like Strugratsky's Definitely Maybe.

It's still nothing like the movie's and the book's Zone. Mostly on the film although it only punctuated the point of the book, it's free from such complicated interpretation, it's just a part of nature that exists and doesn't need to be interfered with, and the spiritual journey is merely a discovery of the self free of outside influence. Whether the Zone is spiritual or not, or even whether the Zone exists at all in the movie, is not the point. The story works as an analogy for humanity's constant striving for truth outwardly instead of inwardly as they are supposed to be.

>>14144426

Except the film and even the book are a lot more episodic in nature and less plot stricken than the game. Don't talk like STALKER isn't full of linear narrative, especially with that kind of main quest.

>>14144069

>>14144415

isnt stalker just a battlefield mod based on the metro games?

>>14144610

i love driving in the snow (irl), but you know what satisfied my lust? mudrunners. its "mud" engine feels alot like snow, and its pretty bad ass.

The Warriors on the original Xbox.

It captures the look and feel of late 70's New York perfectly, and is still one of the best examples of what a movie tie-in should be like.

The story, music, and general atmosphere were all top tier, and complimented each other perfectly.

>>14143459

And the funny part is that removing the disgusting green filter from Fallout 3 makes it's atmosphere better

>>14143602

i knew there were retarded people on here but dude you take the cake

>>14145990

Other than some stupid moments like the Samurai duel, what was wrong Predators?

I got bored of the most recent Aliens vs Predator game. My fault for playing humans, I guess? But they threw me into an environment where I could run around in a circle to get away from aliens and shoot them, then in a room with a squad to shoot aliens. Stopped playing there (wasn't my game to begin with). Tried the alien campaign and got immediately bored how you supposedly pulled the old 'hide in the ceiling' trick.

Aliens vs Predator 2 did it better in both cases, immediately isolating you from your teammates and forcing you through dark, narrow corridors where you could legitimately be ambushed.

The alien campaign in AVP 2 is awesome.

>>14146048

>what was wrong Predators?

Only the two Jews survive in the end.

>>14146084

This, also best aesthetic in all SH games.

Downpour had a nice atmosphere as well.

>>14146084

Great choice. I was always struck by the musical choice in SH2. Who knew that grunge rock would suit a game of this atmosphere so well?

>>14146108

I've sen that first image many times now and I know it isn't yours, but that's a shite setup. He could at least put a few logs underneath the TV so his neck won't have to be arched looking at the TV - of course, that is implying he doesn't just sit criss-cross on the floor.

>>14146108

>second pic

Whenever I see the Old King, I wonder why he didn't tag team Allant with Biorr to stop the entire invasion immediately. The guy is a literal demi-god and Biorr might as well be one too. Apparently he was locked away in that shitty mausoleum by Allant but there is no show of a token struggle or anything like that.

>>14146084

That reminds me. Does anyone have a CD rip of the SH2 OST?

>>14144502

>that music

That reminds me that FF7 does actually have a pretty good atmosphere as well.

>>14143151

i can hear the menu music already, stronghold really is one of the most atmospheric games in existence

>>14144647

You forgot to add monkey noises.

Also, context?

>>14146235

I still wish they had added a horde mode to play with, where you build your castle, get attacked by increasingly powerful waves of enemies and see how long you can last.

>>14146297

Likely around Calais, niggers trying to stop trucks so they can sneak on them to go through the underwater tunnel.

>>14144436

I don't want a walking simulator or faithful adaptation of the book and movie. I just want a game where the Zone's mystery is truly a mystery and the characters discover an intention beyond getting money and playing hero.

>>14144678

>By making a fucking amnesiac story?

Pretentious writing always ends up as being stupid. The black Monolith in 2001 for example, Monolith is actually the theater screen itself, can't get sillier than that.

>It's not trying to be retard

Neither did Stalker, but it kept the spirit of the book.

>Except it plays differently everytime

It's always the same, except for a few very minor NPC's who might die or not die, and where your assassination target's position is, that's all about it.

>>14147049

>Neither did Stalker, but it kept the spirit of the book.

It really doesn't matter to that extent. Also the fuck does this have to do with atmosphere in a game?

>It's always the same

I think you're looking at this wrong. It's different in a lot of other ways such as builds and enemy placement. You also aren't forced to go the same route to specific objectives and the game essentially allows you to move at whatever pace you want.

>>14144026

>You should refuse to BUY any game at all. Entertainment must always be free.

If we all fucking refused to buy any games, normalfags would decide the entire industry. Fuck off.

Quake.

>>14143426

I got pretty bored of this game quickly.

I think the last Colossus I fought was a giant horse sort of thing. The one I remember the most was the first one, the watersnake thing, warthog and the sand one.

It's been a while since I played it (the remastered version on PS3) but I remember being pretty underwhelmed by the game itself.

>>14160716

Hi reddit.

>>14164125

>calls others reddit

>makes a post like >>14160419