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>we want the Chinese audience

It's a nice change of setting, but I don't trust CA or Sega to do anything good with it.

>>14133921

Prepare to be surprised.

Also CA are weeaboo, their first TW game is Shogun.

>>14133666

I am pretty sure western adaptation will be superior. But they couldn't even include all clans in Shogun 2.

We already have a Total War thread OP

What's interesting is that apparently in the People's Republic depictions of actual Chinese history aren't allowed and everyone just makes endless amounts of Romance of the Three Kingdoms remakes/re-interpretations as a substitute. This is definitely just made to grab the Chinese audience.

Still actually sorta tempted to pirate it, though, unlike, like, the last five Total War games.

What a fucking monkey's paw; I've been wanting a three kingdoms total war for nearly two decades, but it's going to be the same shitty campaign map mechanics and 5 second battles that R2/Atilla/WaWa/WaWa2 have.

>>14133666

This kills the Koei

>>14136210

I'd rather have it set during the Mongol invasion, or around the time Japan invaded Korea back in the 1600s, but alas, the only memeworthy period of Chinese history is the 3nd century.

>>14133666

This is fantasy right?

>>14135353

Shogun 2 is a decent game, but it's a bad Total War game, lad.

Empire and Napoleon are hit and miss. I like them for the time period, but that's about it.

Also, get ready for the chink invasion.

>>14133666

Thank you for remembering.

Instead of this, we got Shogun 2 and Rome 2.

>>14136291

Addendum:

It is almost as if they looked at the most popular Medieval 2 Mods and try to build their own shittier version.

>>14130449

we already have a thread.

wonder how will they fuck it up this time, still the player base is braindead enough to not care

>>14136309

3 kingdoms is by the far the most well-known era of China history, both in East and West.

The only thing more well-known is Journey of the West.

For the first game about China, ROTK absolutely makes sense.

Though if you look at net, barely anybody know ROTK, it's a shame.

>>14136210

Yep, let's make a game about chinese periods that are lesser well-known for the first game in the series, you fucking retard.

It's like wanting the first european total war to be about the Hussite War or something.

>>14136401

>It's like wanting the first european total war to be about the Hussite War or something.

And yeah, I think China is really embarrassed if it's represented by ROTK, one of the most beloved work of literatures.

>>14136401

To be fair Japan gets the same treatment. It's either the Sengoku Jidai or the "Last Samurai" memery, despite the later being two separate historical events.

>>14136418

Shogun 2 and DLC actually cover all the big japanese era, save for modern times.

>>14136411

I don't think the issue is embarrassment, but that anything past the 16th century will make the government over there mad since it was 500 years of China getting raped by everyone, sometimes simultaneously.

>>14136426

They don't cover the aborted Mongol invasion, nor the far more entertaining attempt to conquer Korea.

Cao Cao poster won't be happy about this.

>>14133666

So is this shit set in reality or is it fiction tier BS?

>>14136431

>>14136435

So the issue here is that ROTK happens to cover one of the most glorious times of China? And CA decides to cover it?

>I would play a game about the Hussite War if it was the first in its series too, you fucking retard chink.

But not everyone, that's the point.

Go on, name a game Hussite Total War vs Medieval Total War and see which would sell better.

>They don't cover the aborted Mongol invasion, nor the far more entertaining attempt to conquer Korea.

These are big events, but they aren't as big as the Genpei war, sengoku jidai and boshin war.

>>14136447

You don't know Romance of the 3 kingdoms?

>>14136452

>So the issue here is that ROTK happens to cover one of the most glorious times of China? And CA decides to cover it?

I don't think anyone really minds ROTK per se, it's just that it is so predictable and ubiquitous you might as well assume there is nothing else in Chinese history to bother with.

>>14136457

Tell me about how much the average Western pigdog knows about China's history.

>>14136457

Uh, that's the point? Barely any westerners even know ROTK, let alone China history.

ROTK itself is incredibly fucking complex, and knowing yourself full of ROTK is already a feat in itself.

>>14136454

I know what the fuck it is, but will it be PRC tier propaganda to pander to the chink audience or will it be accurate?

>>14136485

The thumbnail has the peach garden where the oath was made. It should be clear it's based on the novel.

>>14136473

There was an Empire 2?

>>14136485

It's based on the novel, which would be historical fiction i.e. history with dabbled exaggaration.

>>14136505

Oops, meant 2

>>14136523

>so there will be no black-washing and feminist revisionism like in Rome 2 for example.

There is neither in Rome 2.

The stupid ass DLC does not count.

>>14136523

>It's a video game, faggots.

I guess you're asking for some WE WUZ.

>Also the game will not take place in white countries so there will be no black-washing and feminist revisionism like in Rome 2 for example.

Like they give a shit where they are shoving niggers into so long as they are being shoved.

>>14136553

CA has balls though, they are one of the rare western devs that aren't BLACKed.

Also, historical accuracy will not prevent niggers from entering your games.

>>14136569

One thematic DLC does not show the lack of balls.

>>14134275

They fucked up Warhammer, and you think they'll be able to handle an IP as big as the Three Kingdoms?

The odds are not against you, even the cinematic trailer is trash. Even dynasty warrior seems to be a more faithful adaption of the mythos.

>>14136580

How exactly do they fuck up Warhammer again?

And how is Dynasty Warriors seem to be more faithful than what it is shown, I mean, have you even seen a Dynasty Warriors trailer?

>>14136587

>>14136580

Warhammer simplified the game too much that is where they fucked up..

>>14133666

Trying way too hard to be bombastic and epic.

Not interested

>>14136601

Warhammer TW tries to follow the way Warhammer TT plays.

>>14136604

That's what ROTK is, dude bro.

>>14136572

>shilling for a company that redefined DLC kikery

>>14136614

CA is not even the worst example of DLC kikery.

>>14136480

>It's real

>has a nigger accent

>comments have clearly been curated

JUST

>>14136658

Chronicles of the three kingdoms rather not the annals.

>>14136658

I really see no point in following the actual history since ROTK is simply more well-told and compelling.

>>14136668

I mostly just mean in how the armies work, I don't want overpowered lords that can smash half my army because I feel it makes the tactical side of total war that much more limited.

>>14136694

Of course balance is needed, but heroic combat is mainly the deal in ROTK.

I mean, there are episodes where two heroes go out to duel each other, then the loser side retreats.

>>14136693

really? That's awesome, that's been my dream since the original Rome TW

>>14136703

Britcuck tv is beyond compromised

>>14136717

To think I went to bongland when I was little and thought it was wonderful. So sad to see this shit.

>>14136798

Don't worry, I'm sure it will look even more lovely when it's all on fire.

>>14136798

Martin Sellner of generation identitaire made a video about the kind of negging that goes on in Germany, it seems like it's a european wide phenomenon. I think Europe may be lost.

>>14136830

>I think Europe may be lost

Nah eastern europe is doing fine, west can burn in hell though

>>14136837

has its own problems that keep it from being a truly effective white country, at the very least it's doing OK for now but there is some interference.

>>14136920

ROTK does follow actual history, it just adds bits and bits of romantization to make the characters more grandiose.

And no one would buy a Total War set in the Spring Autumn period or the Taiping Revolution, heck, barely any westerner know ROTK as it is, they only know it due to Dynasty Warriors.

>>14136920

The way he speaks reminds me of the parrot from Aladdin. It's a bit funny but totally inapproriate for the character. Couldn't they at least teach him to enunciate like a normal human being?

>>14136717

It's funny, what's supposed to be a historical documentary has the same cast as an interracial porno.

>>14136223

This. The Yuan Dynasty was best Dynasty.

>>14136920

WE

WUZ

GREEK GODZ

>>14136668

It fucks up a lot of stuff that is honestly more interesting to make Shu seem better. It isn't like they don't have a pretty impressive story already and Liu Bei managed to fall to banditry and then work his way back up to emperor claimant by taking over other people's lands.

>>14136698

Its not really talked about, but I got the impression that the soldiers in ROTK were pretty damn undisciplined, particularly during the early conflict.

>>14136609

Get the fuck out of here. Seriously. Get. The. fuck. Out.

>>14139021

Excuse me?

That last good TW game was Medieval 2. Shogun 2 and Rome 2 were both fucking awful.

If the combat system isn't just replaced with Dynasty Warriors then it's not even worth pirating.

>>14139073

Shitty picture, should be slapping Macha's ass with his GURPS collection and she should be grasping a D&D 4.0 book.

>>14136616

Is that why they released Total War: Warhammer 2 with over $130 worth of DLC, and why Total War: Warhammer 3 is going to have double that? I have never heard of a company ever requiring you to own previous games and content in order to play them in future games and content, so yeah, they sort of redefined DLC kikery.

>>14141005

Is that aris?

>>14140334

anime faggot with shit taste, checks out

>>14143464

>playstation

they're not making a favor to this game by having it be console shit

it looks mobile trash

which one of these games is actually worth it?

>>14140418

> I have never heard of a company ever requiring you to own previous games and content in order to play them in future games and content, so yeah

it was a merged map dlc you faggot

>>14140624

you kinda proving his point though

>>14143678

ROTK X is a Crusader Kings-like game, where you control the ruler, and the armies separately.

ROTK XI however is closer to 4x game.

>>14134352

>in the People's Republic depictions of actual Chinese history aren't allowed

A well-educated Chinese chick told me that in school they were taught that Ghengis Khan was a great Chinese leader who helped unify China.

>>14143897

Typical Chingchong tricks, ripping off foreign things as always.

>>14139073

How exactly is WHFB setting is raped by WaWa again?

>>14143825

13 kinda combines both styles, but I don't know how to feel about it.

12 was never translated/localized and should say it all.

>>14144255

I mean, the setting is effectively raped and killed by GW itself, and is sorta revived through CA.

>>14143897

>Ghengis Khan was a great Chinese leader who helped unify China

well that isn't that far from the truth to be honest

>>14143825

so these are the good ones? translated I assume?

>>14138979

if anyone wants to join in some actual decent strategy game, I'm trying to get a multiplayer session going on

>>14144381

X was only translated for the PS2 version, while XI has a formally released PC version. Sadly I don't think either come with their Power-Up Kit expansions.

>>14144660

snow niggers were the nigger niggers of most of Rome's existence

>>14144831

>Pic 2 is the closest the Empire ever came to a nig Emperor.

Shame most wops look like that these days.

>>14144660

I don't believe that an actor has to be of a specific ethnicity to play a character in a play, the problem is that these productions are just made to niggerwash the popular culture of Western countries. Can you imagine the kind of shit flinging that would happen if a fucking white man played Othello instead of its intended actor? Or if some ching chong played the victim in a remake of To Kill A Mockingbird?

>>14144869

>triggered

its a fictional play inspirired by a real character, it doesn't change the fact that is just a fucking play

>even so, you can't say the one nigger playing ceaser is the same as sub-saharan nigger

Lol, you can't even put together a sentence and you call me a dumb fuck. Back to the shed with you.

>>14144869

Fuck off it's produced with an agenda and the fact is wogs have no part in our art or media outright they can go create their own **hahahahahahhahahahaha*.

I actually did want this, as OP as China makes their Generals sound in its literature, I thought the Warhammer 2 engine would be a good fit for it.

But I didn't want Three Kingdoms, there's no fucking way you can do an accurate (literary or historical) Total War: Three Kingdoms game. Fuck, Liu Bei had four different territories before he finally made it to Shu. You know what they could do? Warring States. Could be accurate to history, have a typical Total War setup, it'd be at worst passable, possibly great.

But no, Dynasty Warriors has made Three Kingdoms the only damned possibility. And God forbid you try to be faithful to the novel instead of Dynasty Warriors. I swear, the number of spergs that'll come running out of the woodworks to ree at you if you bring up that it was Liu Bei who talked Cao Cao into executing Lu Bu….

And I fucking swear to fuck if Lu Bu doesn't have a bow in this one… I'll sperg about it on /v/ until even these autistic fucks tell me to calm the fuck down, don't think I won't.

Will Lu Bu be in it?

>>14144908

>**hahahahahahhahahahaha*.

Jesus christ, just dont.

>>14144869

Real characters in plays and media are expected to look somewhat like who they are supposed to represent, i for example would never take seriusly a non-asian ghengis-khan or a white shaka zulu.

But there is an argument to be made here, that romans no longer exist anywhere, just like ancient egyptians.

Im waiting for my black Adolf Hitler. Its just a work of fiction, who cares about accuracy? Lets change the plot too so Hitler was trying to save the Jews but the Americans faked their deaths. After all, honest interpretations of events dont matter

>>14143682

I was just being a stickler for being accurate. WaWa 2 has only 20 bucks of DLC. I also don't think the anon ever played DoW which say if you only owned Dark Crusade. You could only play as the Tau and Necrons, not IG,SM,Chaos or Orks.

>>14146209

They were only locked for multiplayer, you could still play all the races in SP and Skirmish.

But still, that was pretty shit back then but I already had the Gold editions with DoW1 and WA before I got DC so it didn't bother me too much.

>>14136658

Didn't Xiahou Dun break a siege killing like 50 dudes in the process?

>>14145070

I agree, I think warring states would have been a much better fit. When I first heard that they were doing China, I automatically assumed they were going to do something like they did with Shogun 2 and start with warring states then do three kingdoms and Opium Wars expansions.

>>14145420

>>14146292

Nah it really wasn't that bad considering you got a race or two plus maps and a campaign per expansion. Plus I think WA was only like 20 bucks when it released. Even Soulstorm was only like 40 bucks.

>>14145070

isn't three kingdoms (non romance) basically warring states period?

and you can forget about generals having super powers and being damage sponges,

historical TW do not have that bullshit,

if they did that, than you can expect a large amount of autistic screeching

>>14145420

isn't that basically the plot of the alternate history post WW2 series?

Fags in TWC are already screeching about muh OP heroes.

What a fucking joke with this fanbase, what is ROTK without the heroism and strong hereoes defining the faction?

>>14146464

>basically warring states period?

warring states period refers to a very set piece of time in regards to China. however, yeah it's pretty similar with a bunch of guys with armies all trying to gain power when the Han collapsed.

>>14145070

It's all about the market, 3K is by far the most widely known piece of Chinese history outside of China. If it does well, it wouldn't surprise me if they went ahead with other periods of conflict in China like the warring states or the mongol invasion

>>14146719

The trailer shows it to be Romance to the T.

And Romance is historical fiction, still historical.

>>14146719

>its a historical title

I guarantee it's going to be an "inbetween" title, with toned down hero elements, so not as blatant as WaWa but not fully a historical title either

>>14146719

>because as I've said above, it not a fucking romance, this is not Wawa playdate shit, its a historical title

Dude, the trailer clearly shows the new game will be based on RotTK, which isn't historical.

As far as regions go what else is even left for new non-fantasy regions in Total War? China was the last big one that I can think of. Maybe the American Civil War or India? Though India would sell like shit and the Civil War would (unfortunately) be too controversial for Sega if they let you win as the confederates.

>>14146719

How come Wu zetian doesn't appear in this picture, she did so much for china. History is clearly sexist and I'm glad titles like civilization are clearly rectifying this.

>>14147121

>>14146750

I was about to cede there, but on a second look, where in the fucking trailer does it mention being a romance?

>>14147183

The trailer shows events of the Romance, which did not happen.

>>14147136

Historical fans want a new Empire, you know with guns and cannons.

>>14147136

Maybe a more fleshed out Meso/South America. There was no organized warfare to speak of outside of Eurasia and the above.

>>14147183

>Clear emphasis on heroes in trailer, doing ridiculous shit

I think it's like a good 70% chance it's romance.

>>14147224

ignore flag

>>14147224

It is just Lu Bu slashing some mooks, maybe I am densitized by everything related to ROTK but what is so ridiculous about that?

>>14144853

>are just made to niggerwash the popular culture of Western countries

no, the racial makeup of casts is a reflection of the society that they were filmed in, not about the actual film. Which is why Shakespeare only had men play women roles.

>>14148936

Niggers are over-represented in european and american films.

>>14148936

this

>>14147193

>>14147224

what is so romanticised about a few leaders plotting behind there lines

there is exactly nothing fantastical about that trailer

it's not like they shouldn't over produced the trailer for hype, just look at Attila

>>14148996

thats wrong, you think that because you see niggers and it sticks to you more since its different.

for example, if you ask japanese folk how many people in japan are foreigners, they usually reply with 20% or something when in reality its 1.8%.

>>14150904

Niggers should not even appear in european films (unless it is a french film) if that is the case, but there you go.

>>14148936

Way to dodge the question. I don't know why you're downplaying this when you know full well have the press breathing down your neck if you put a white man in a traditionally black role. The screeching of "DAS RACIST. WHITEWASHING." would be heard around the world.

In regards to the game I think it's pretty shitty that they're doing ROTK. To me TW was always about your dudes, your family members being crazy assholes while conquering half the world. I would frequently have one side of the family be horrible, womanizing, bloodthirsty assholes which were amazing commanders, and another side of brilliant administrators beloved by their subjects (with the occasional chivalrous crusader in Med2). Now with Total Warhammer and probably this game that ability to tell personal stories with characters you grow throughout the game has been more or less lost, since they come with established characters and you just walk in their footsteps.

>>14151765

>when you know full well have the press breathing down your neck

when you know full well you would* have the press breathing down your neck

>>14144275

Thank you for not explaining shit, faggot.

>>14146719

>300 BC

>byzantines

What?

>>14147136

The americas, you could go with either native times, empire era or the independence wars, a bolivar total war would be pretty cool. >>14147204

>There was no organized warfare to speak of outside of Eurasia and the above.

Bullshit, the native americans did have actual wars with large armies and such.

>>14151835

I could see a colonial South American or a Native focused game as a Sagas title released after something like Empire 2. I doubt it would ever come as a tentpole historical game as neither probably would sell enough to justify it. Maybe a South American one if Brazil gets its shit together economically and starts obsessing over Total War.

>>14151975

Brazil was never involved in any major wars though, unlike the hispanic countries.

The most the ycould do is the war of the triple alliance, but thats just them overwhelming a small, poor country and killing 90% of the males.

>>14151975

>Maybe a South American one if Brazil gets its shit together economically and starts obsessing over Total War

what does one have to do with another?

hueheu here, we indeed have had very little wars, even independence was kinda shit, only a minor urugai war at some time

however what could be done is central america pre colonization wars, Inca empire and all that shit

they did have some juicy history bits, though not that much large scale war and organized military either

>>14136717

what the fuck man