3b9000 No.14101586
Why is it that we never see any Zelda style games being made? Is it because they are too difficult to make? The only ones I can think of are some ancient mediocre clones for the 8 and 16-bit consoles when people were trying to make their own Zelda, Okami, the Darksider games (mainly the first one), and the Ittle Dew games. And out of those the only one that is good is Okami. Can anyone think of any decent ones on PC, let alone modern consoles?
f330b9 No.14101643
Have I got a Zelda style game for you
7308b0 No.14101657
>>14101586
Zelda is referenced as an inspiration for the game's design
d2c298 No.14101702
689939 No.14101706
Can you name any other Zelda game where you can play as a swastidong?
cad983 No.14101710
Hello fellow /tv/ poster, I see you liked my JAVfu.
615e98 No.14101711
Because Nintendo either killed or mindcrushed anyone who tried. Never forget Gunpei Yokoi.
3b9000 No.14101747
>>14101710
she really is top tier
1e5dff No.14101760
I'd rather have more Terranigma style games being made. Zelda was always garbage.
8be1ff No.14101766
>>14101586
Because no one wants to create or play zeldo style games anymore? The most recent zelda game barely even IS a zelda game and it sold a fucktonne.
34fcff No.14101779
>>14101766
> The most recent zelda game barely even IS a zelda game
It plays more like the first Zelda than any of the other 3D game in the series.
f2fe33 No.14101790
>this fucking thread again
Because linear games like ALttP and OoT are passé. Because having unique items that make sense in the world requires intimate knowledge of game design and how to reward progress. Because players don't want to backtrack. Because the Internet killed exploration and discovery.
bd448f No.14101828
Devil May Cry is superior
d95021 No.14101836
>>14101779
It was shit, kill yourself
c391fc No.14101852
>>14101779
>It plays more like the first Zelda than any of the other 3D game in the series
good joke
3b9000 No.14101854
>>14101836
He's not wrong though. One of the first things Aonuma and his team did when setting out to make Breath of the Wild was literally go back to the basics and make it feel like a modern version of the first Legend of Zelda.
b45dc8 No.14101859
>>14101854
The first game was shit. They didn't get the formula right until ALttP
d95021 No.14101864
>>14101854
if "the basics" was to make it feel like skyrim then it succeeded
Maybe Aonuma finally became washed up
fca149 No.14101867
>>14101586
Because it's boring as fuck to play Zelda style games. Having played Okami, that game relies on the same fucking gameplay loop for way too long, with the solution to a problem being obvious to anybody with a peanut for a brain, but for some arbitrary reason, you must first collect the magical fucknugget in the Vale of Whatever before you can go to the Palace of Who Cares, to once more find the Cummuffin of Plot in the Temple of Full Nelson to continue on to the next point which you originally had to go to in the first place, only to repeat the same fucking thing. It's boring. And I like Okami. Its gimmicks are neat, I like its art style and the story's aaight but it drags on for way too long.
8dbb23 No.14101878
Darksiders 1
Zelda-like dungeons, puzzles along with compass and chests exactly like Ocarina of Time.
The game was basically just a Zelda game with a different skin thrown over it.
456989 No.14101895
>>14101586
Because no one knows what a Zelda game even is anymore. Okami is Aonuma-tier shit for the game designers to masturbate to the style, and where the gameplay is just a formality chored included because of the (this was before the age of hipster faggots trying to abolish gameplay altogether). Those games are boring as fuck and great if you have too much money you need to get rid off. Aonuma games only sold because of the brand recognition
The original Zelda is what Zelda truly is: take an open-world RPG, remove all the number crunching dice-rolling gameplay, and replace it with arcade action combat. You pick up your sword (well, you don't even have to do that) and then wander off and see where it takes you.
It's not an action-RPG like Diablo where you still have visible stats and (real-time) dice rolling. I propose the term "arcade RPG". Instead of an accuracy stat deciding whether your attack hits you simply make your sword connect with the enemy. Instead of a dodge stat you have to actually dodge the enemies. Instead of levelling up your strength you find a new sword. You could take the combat of Zelda and stick it into an arcade game and it would still work. You couldn't do that with Diablo.
d95021 No.14101908
>>14101895
>you couldn't stick the combat of diablo in an arcade
Goddamn this thread will be shit
456989 No.14101921
>>14101908
Well, show me an arcade game where the combat consists of "click and hold on enemy until it dies, also random luck can suck quarters out of your pocket". Arcade games are about reflexes and twitch gameplay. Gauntlet has Zelda-like gameplay (less refined of course) in an arcade game.
1e5dff No.14101922
>>14101895
>I propose the term "arcade RPG".
What's wrong with action-adventure?
62bd9b No.14101942
>>14101921
>click and hold
>CLICK AND HOLD
you've never played Diablo, get the fuck out of this thread
it would have the same gameplay (or very similar at least) to any isometric beat-em-up would, like Michael Jackson's Moonwalker for example. The only thing that might present a problem would be the menu-navigation, which wouldn't be too difficult to resolve with how many buttons and joysticks are available on an arcade cabinet
There is a literal PSX version of Diablo and it actually plays well
1c1c25 No.14102081
>>14101706
Doesn't count. :^)
It was actually a real fun game and if they ever made a sequel they would nail the zelda style imo.
f80a0a No.14102106
Is pic related any good? I hear it plays like an experimental version of aLttP
9edb03 No.14102113
>>14101586
you're one dumb retarded nigger, people are making zelda-lites all the time, here is another (you) for you because I assume you already knew that
6531a9 No.14102122
d01287 No.14102142
>>14101586
Because people would call it a Zelda clone and any possible word of praise it could get would inevitably be challenged by those claiming it's copying Zelda. Now, if the game was based on an existing IP that had never seen a gaming release, people wouldn't care less. Look at Goof Troop, which, despite being a puzzle game, is very much styled like a Zelda game.
db5ded No.14102153
>>14101710
>>14101586
nice smug cuteness anon, can I get sauce on the javfu?
for your answer, OP, is in the chest,
there are plenty of rogue like adventures games like zelda, why do you need a clone or sequel? why don't go out of your shell and try something different?
5bf2a8 No.14102192
>>14102106
so fucking pretty but lacking of any real meat to the gameplay.
5d2d52 No.14102194
>>14102106
It's a good game. I completed it but I don't think I'll ever play it again.
3b9000 No.14102197
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>>14102153
Ai Uehara. I don't really want to play a Zelda clone, but I was just surprised that more don't exist given the potential profit
1e5dff No.14102228
>>14102197
>potential profit
Zelda games don't sell because they're good, they sell because they're Zelda. You could clone the game exactly, only replacing copyrighted elements, sell it for 1/3 the price and no one would buy it.
b45dc8 No.14102235
>>14102228
True. If they sold based on how good they were, then Okami would be the best selling Zelda game.
1c1c25 No.14102237
>>14102228
This is the reality of the situation. IPs sell better than a good game.
390236 No.14102239
>>14101790
>unique items
how would one go about implementing them in a game and have them actually work, unlike in past zelda games where theyre pretty useless after the dungeon they were introduced in.
17e71d No.14102249
>>14101586
Hey, Ittle Dew 1 was pretty good.
Ittle Dew 2 sucked, but 1 had great puzzles and exploration.
1c1c25 No.14102251
>>14102239
>unlike in past zelda games where theyre pretty useless after the dungeon they were introduced in.
Sounds like a game design problem more than an inherent problem with unique items.
3b9000 No.14102256
>>14102228
You have a point. Other than Breath of the Wild, recent Zelda games haven't had particularly high sells compared to say Mario or Zelda. The games also take forever to release. Even the most recent Fire Emblem games were catching up to them. Zelda has always felt like a prestige brand for Nintendo.
4b16e3 No.14102263
>>14101921
Diablo 3 for the Consoles is basically Gauntlet.
1c1c25 No.14102267
>>14102263
>tfw Diablo 3 for consoles is the closest we will get to a new Champions of Norrath or Dark alliance
cad983 No.14102276
>>14102153
Ai Uehara is the best girl in all of Japanese lewd kino.
b45dc8 No.14102282
>>14102276
>watching censored porn
e6aed8 No.14102284
>>14101586
World of the West is good. The multi-character feature was implemented clumsily and would have probably just worked better as one character with all the other characters abilities but it still manages to be decent.
>>14102249
I wouldn't say 2 sucks. 1 feels more like a Zelda game, while 2 does its own thing. The open world approach and bullet hell combat makes it alright
3b9000 No.14102294
>>14102276
the nihongo squeals are the best part
cad983 No.14102296
>>14102282
>wanting to see disgusting vinas or pises
You're gay, not even joking.
390236 No.14102298
>>14102251
ok, but how would one go about implementing it? would metroid or castlevania be a better example of unique items?
1c1c25 No.14102320
>>14102298
Simple, have barriers that require the use of those items and make them useful in combat in various ways. Hard mode: make conditions where exceptionally good players can skip those sections by mastering the game. Dante Must Die mode: reward the skilled player that can beat the game in a very low amount of time or completing the game while skipping every power-up by unlocking hard mode.
17e71d No.14102328
>>14102249
>>14102251
>>14102239
actually, now that I think about it, there's one thing that Zelda-style games do really, really rarely that I wish they did more often. Ittle Dew 1 did it and it was great. Namely: items that interact with each other.
With most Zelda style games, you get an ability, and you use it to do its own thing, and it never really interacts with the other items. Bomb Arrows are the only exception to this in Zelda, as far as I know. But in Ittle Dew, you get 3 items: the Fire Sword, Ice Wand, and Portal Staff. Individually these items do the following:
>Light stuff on fire (and do double damage compared to your starting melee weapon, the stick)
>Fire ice magic that freezes things
>Create a "portal block", which acts the same as a normal pushable block, but activating the wand again will teleport you to the block and remove it
Now where this gets interesting is when you combine them. Some examples:
>Freeze a portal block, and it will slide along the ground, allowing it to go over certain terrain that you normally can't go over. You can then teleport to it or use it to weigh down otherwise inaccessible switches
>After freezing a normal block, you can shatter it and get it out of the way with the Fire Sword
>Inexplicably, some items can be lit on fire with the Fire Sword, then frozen with the Ice Wand, and then they will be on fire again when they thaw. You can use this to delay a bomb explosion or get fire into a place you normally couldn't.
>Frozen blocks will reflect certain projectiles
There needs to be more Zelda games that do stuff like that.
Oh and also, if you're going to implement a hookshot style item, making it only work on specific HOOKSHOT APPROVED SURFACES defeats the point and turns it from a fun, freedom-opening mechanic into another boring gating item.
d95021 No.14102329
>>14102311
>being an e-celeb worshipper for le ebin skyrim man
6b7464 No.14102353
>>14101657
This and pic related. Consider that every clone of these games are by proxy a zelda clone.
a8b678 No.14102355
>>14102329
>Using reaction images mean you're a fanboy of the pictured guy
d95021 No.14102368
>>14102355
>using a reaction image to go along with a message espoused by e-celeb fag doesn't mean you aren't a fan of said fag
top shitpost
44d0df No.14102396
>>14102355
Certified gay for masturbating to thinking man instead of thinking breasts.
d83a6f No.14102744
2376c4 No.14102763
Ever Oasis was pretty okay, but forgettable. Wasn't much to do outside of main story.
1c1c25 No.14102778
>>14102763
>implying games like these need "postgame" content
Don't fall for the open world meme. That shit has killed plenty of IPs.
39b67b No.14102817
>>14102778
>postgame content = open world
2376c4 No.14102821
>>14102778
Where did I mention postgame?
db5ded No.14102852
>>14102276
> AI Uehara
I do know her, didn't recognize because of the face
oh well, thanks
1c1c25 No.14102873
>>14102821
I get what you are saying, more sidequests would be nice as long as it's not lame shit like collect X amount of Y.
>>14102817
I assumed, my mistake. However most people think that more shit to do outside of the main quest means that the game is suddenly open world.
2376c4 No.14102912
>>14102873
I think Ever Oasis really needed some other things to do other than grinding materials because it had some soft time locks. Whenever you needed to host a festival, if your shops are still full you can't re-supply them until they sell their merchandise in order to get their stamp. This ended up making you wait ingame days to progress the story. It would have been nice to have things to do like a shooting gallery minigame or anything besides item grinding or the RNG dungeon which is just used for item grinding and postgame bosses.
1c1c25 No.14103030
>>14102912
>This ended up making you wait ingame days to progress the story.
What the fuck, talk about padding gameplay hours. The only game that managed to pull that sort of shit off well was HM:FoMT.
8b3473 No.14103058
>>14102353
>>14101766
Only if somehow you frontload all the items in the first game with in 4 4 room dungeons then say "hey skip the other dungeons go straight to ganon if you want." its not like any zelda, not any 2d or any 3d. Without a constant meaningful progression system for traversal methods it is not a zelda game.
653847 No.14103138
>>14102328
Funnily enough, Breath of the Wild actually does think more along the lines of what you're describing here. Since everything is physics-based, not only is it possible to combine your various items and abilities in clever ways, but you can come up with solutions and exploits the devs may not have intended, but are absolutely logical and functional.
(Things like using metal objects with the magnesis spells as pinball bumpers to fire remote bombs long distances; using magnetic power on a chest or dropped weapon to propel boats at high speed; setting grass in fire with a fire arrow and using the updraft to launch bombs at aerial or distant enemies, and so on.) BOTW is a lot of fun to screw around in.
BOTW doesn't have a hookshot, but if there's a sequel on the same engine that does, I imagine it would work almost everywhere.
9edb03 No.14103385
>>14102122
that came out recently-ish
Hyper Light Drifter
Oceanhorn
Yono and the Celestial Elephants
Blossom Tales: The Sleeping King
Legend of the Skyfish
Warden: Melody of the Undergrowth
Rime
Kamiko
A Knight's Quest
Hack 'n' Slash
Portal Knights
My Time at Portia
Moonlighter
Raji: An Ancient Epic
The Sacred Hero
Phantom Trigger
Pankapu
Mulaka
Figment
Poi
ittle dew 2
Anodyne
Super Chibi Knight
Diehard Dungeon
Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure
Legend of Dungeon
8debbd No.14103397
>>14102276
I want that THICC snowbunny to take in my BBC.
a6f6bb No.14103405
>>14103385
Nice
>>14103397
Back to F-list faggot
82d0fb No.14103481
Okami and Darksiders bored the shit out of me maybe they never made more clones because the "Zelda formula" is just not very good and it only rides on the brand name of Zelda and Nintendo.
59b014 No.14103633
>>14102256
Keep in mind that they sell consoles. I know a lot of normies who bought a Switch because they didn't had a WiiU nor cared about Cemu.
3c9b6b No.14103634
f937b4 No.14103652
>>14103634
Riku Minato is better
224b92 No.14103656
>>14101586
Is she going to finish that?
b5a0e0 No.14103858
>>14103397
Go back to Africa and fuck one of those apes you call women, nigger.
594aba No.14106669
>>14103186
Darksiders is mediocre. I have no idea why people push it as a zelda alternative.
056575 No.14108013
>>14106669
Still manages to be superior to the trash that is the Zelda series
35e734 No.14108022
>>14106098
You deserve your ban tornigger
8e9d43 No.14108885
When a perfectly good game like Darksiders comes out, people just ignore it or bitch about it ripping of Zelda, like only Nintendo are allowed to make these kinds of games. Might have something to do with it.
8e9d43 No.14108903
>>14106669
It's by no means an amazing game, but it's a perfectly decent action adventure. I'll take it over some of the more mediocre Zelda games like Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword.
9ea95d No.14109053
>>14101864
Aonuma was sucking Skyrim off back when it first came out. And then he ended up copying it for BOTW. Go fucking figure.
868092 No.14109081
>>14109027
The only game in the series you could make an argument as an "Action RPG" is Zelda II.
8201e2 No.14109087
Would Beyond Good & Evil count? You spend a lot of time in underworld areas that are basically dungeons and most secondary parts of the game are in the overworld.
9c7cdc No.14109137
Darksider's 2 is very much like Zelda, but with better combat.
35bf9d No.14109150
Zelda 2 was the only good Zelda game, prove me wrong.
253a48 No.14109350
>>14109150
The tingle games were the best Zelda games
585ec1 No.14110304
probably due to fear of being called a knockoff, granted in todays market if a game used a classic zelda formula with a small semi-open world where you go through dungeons using new tools you get to get past puzzles and enemies it would probably get half decent reception since the last zelda game didn't follow its own formula and opted for the full-open world meme
829d00 No.14110457
>>14102276
>Ai Uehara
>best anything
>ever
cad983 No.14110777
>>14103634
On sukebei.nyaa.si there are torrents of a collection containing every "work" she has done so far.
281421 No.14110894
>>14110777
Which one is the best? There's like 10 of them in different resolutions and shit.
cad983 No.14110915
>>14110894
The description of those torrents contain link to an image with screenshots from every respective film.
There's also his page http://javfor.me/actress/ai-uehara which contains everything she has done so far.
6c6379 No.14111027
>>14101586
/tv/, please go.
f79ed8 No.14111102
>>14102228
This exactly, it's all in the branding, not the actual game.
See for reference: Blossom Tales: The Sleeping King. Zelda clone that sold like shit
1dddc1 No.14111149
>>14101942
>any isometric beat-em-up would, like Michael Jackson's Moonwalker
uhhhh……..
>>14102353
that game was surprisingly above mediocre. I just hate when I play a game where some of the shit is pretty cool but you can see that they could have and should have done more with it. Not even sure how or why it took so long to be made.
9ea95d No.14111175
>>14103385
But are any of these shitty games actually any good?
cad983 No.14111297
>>14111149
>that game was surprisingly above mediocre
I thought it was fucking boring and hated walking through the world, gave me a sense of claustrophobia. The enemies were all the same and half of the time I was just walking without encountering any of them plus the combat was annoying.
I didn't play that much of it though and it might have gotten better later but if you're going to start out a game like that I'll have no motivation to go on.
92c224 No.14111461
>ctrl+f 'Nier'
>zero results
Not the first one, but Automata is 100% a Zeldo gaym.
c64ebd No.14111993
>>14111149
>uhhhh……
What? Are you retarded or something?
cad983 No.14113009
>>14112999
Are you a pantsufag by any chance?
Because that site is fucking dead and none of their torrents actually get seeded, why would I link a site like that if I know for sure the torrent I'm referring to has ZERO seeders on their site?
5bfcd5 No.14113041
>>14113009
>complaining about dead site
>on fucking 8chan
I bet you browse cuckchan to feel more 'crowded'
1005a1 No.14113044
>>14111461
>Automata is 100% a Zeldo gaym.
I don't see this. It mostly feels like a different take on the first ones game play styles, refining it in some ways and changing focus in others. The first being a pretty strict action rpg.
cad983 No.14113066
>>14113041
No. There is a difference between an inactive site (which 8chan is NOT) and a site with no users. Besides, a torrenting site is fucking useless without seeders.
5/10 bait, made me reply.
3844da No.14113089
>>14113009
animebytes masterrace, public tracker fags are kidding themselves
2376c4 No.14113113
>>14103385
I haven't played most of those games, but Legend of Dungeon is a roguelite. There's no adventure game elements in it, just RNG dungeon crawling.
1d26f5 No.14113180
>>14113066
Cancerous fags feel free to get out
29c824 No.14113718
>>14101706
>>14102081
>see this
>watch gameplay
>"Huh, this looks really neat."
>get hyped to try it
>pirate it
>RPCS3 won't run it
d0c778 No.14114148
>>14101706
This game was okay, but it wasn't good enough to bother finishing it. It felt sterile and soulless. It had a pretty style and lots of winks and homages to various things, but playing it just reminds me that I should be playing LoZ, LA or LttP instead.
400d2e No.14114789
>>14102282
>complaining about censored porn
>while posting an image from censored porn
>>14112999
For JAV at least, the Cartel Nyaa has the advantage. As much as I'd hate to admit it, Pantsu is missing a LOT of them.
189dff No.14120584
>>14113066
8ch is a dead site, if you can't apply other meanings to one word you might be retarded.
f937b4 No.14121726
>>14113718
I'm out of the loop, has PS3 emulation come so far that one can expect games to even run without gamebreaking everything?
e5f8c5 No.14121744
There are plenty of 3D games with Zelda characteristics. What surprises me more is how few 2D Zelda clones their are; you'd think in the midst of the indie boom there'd be tons of them.
a15e96 No.14121776
>>14121726
its going through the wii u emulation phase right now. a few games will work but the majority of the library looks like it's gonna be stuck in "in-game but actually just displays the first screen in-game" compatibility state.
1d26f5 No.14121959
>>14114789
Fuck the cartel, Pantsu will make it up eventually
1b31fc No.14124590
>>14101790
>killed exploration and discovery
Do you even understand how paranoid about spoilers most normalfags are? Only the most bottom of the barrel types use guides.
1b31fc No.14124594
>>14101854
No that's just what they told you, in practice that's not what happened.