dea1d3 No.14078543
We have a lot of thread on shit translations. Let's have one on good translations.
I was playing Shanghai EXE and there's a part where you fall victim to a boobytrapped fridge and the person who laid the trap calls you to taunt you. In the Nipponese script the first line is just a generic generic evil taunt "Haha! Your screams are pointless", in the fan translation it's given as "Is your refrigerator running?" It conveys the taunting part perfectly and fits absolutely perfectly.
d0ac22 No.14078544
>>14078543
>It conveys the taunting part perfectly and fits absolutely perfectly.
Are you retarded?
dea1d3 No.14078556
>>14078544
If your fridge starts violating the laws of physics and you get a call with "Is your refrigerator running?", it is a taunt.
d0ac22 No.14078562
>>14078556
If your idea of a taunt is a prank call non sequitur then your mind isn't well enough to judge good translations.
dea1d3 No.14078584
>>14078562
It's the line from the crank call, not an actual crank call.
167bfb No.14078598
>totally alters the original when no alteration was necessary
>good translation
062476 No.14078620
Damn, this was a shit thread
14a76e No.14078749
>>14078543
>Is your refrigerator running?
>""Good translation""
cb5df7 No.14078791
>>14078543
I get what you mean, op. Language is all about communication, not some word by word synonyms that don't exist. As long as the message is received the intent has been met. But, like the few responses so far, changing the meaning in an attempt to appeal to the audience is often excessive and unnecessary.
5a950f No.14078892
tangentially related, found this on a devtwitter.
a professional translator and subtitler takes on vidya subs
>Without further ado, here's the list of my pet peeves in the video game subtitling of 2017:
https://www.md-subs.com/what-game-subs-got-wrong-in-2017
unsure if he's said anything of game localizations
f8a727 No.14078897
>>14078543
I know what you're looking for. Try these out OP, they're exactly the kind of games you would like.
b11627 No.14079055
>>14078543
>translation that completely alters what was in the original script
>good translation
do you have brain damage?
f26cd4 No.14079065
>>14078892
Nothing to do with the thread, but this is a topic to discuss on its own. The fonts in modern games are fucking bullshit made for ants. I remember making a thread a while ago that got shitposted to death regarding this topic. There's a lot of factors to take into account here, like low vision, screen size, contrast, ect. Ever since games went HD fonts have become harder and harder to read. This was never a problem in older games.
81829e No.14079266
Played this in both English and Japanese and the translation is pretty damn accurate.
5adb8a No.14082373
>>14078897
>Fates
Stop it still pains me to look at a game I'll never be able to play because treehouse fucked it up
81829e No.14082375
>>14082373
>I'll never be able to play
You know what to do.
5adb8a No.14082396
>>14082375
Shoot up NoA headquarters? We have a decade until a 3DS emulator can actually play a Fire Emblem game
61469c No.14082398
>>14082373
You're not missing much, the only good thing to come out of Fates was one of the battle themes.
Cast and story is weak and the game mechanically prioritises being a shitty waifu sim above being a Fire Emblem game. God forbid you play Revelation which has an even more pathetically terrible story.
4f3580 No.14082439
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I don't care about this literal translation VS Woolseyism autism, but for the sake of proper discussion, here's a link to the scene OP is talking about.
Skip to 16:15.
1cd5da No.14082603
>>14078543
>>14078598
>>14079055
That's not a translation at all. In fact, that's a rewrite.
>>14079266
They didn't properly translate the きいていいか part of it. It should have been something like, "Vahn, can I ask you something? What's a pimp?" Although this might have been done for technical space considerations.
81829e No.14082652
>>14082603
True, but it gets the meaning across without resorting to rewrites, which is about the best you're gonna get from a localization.
68c237 No.14082663
>>14079266
>>14082652
I thought a ヒモ was a woman's boytoy? Can pimp be used like that too?
81829e No.14082673
68c237 No.14082705
>>14082673
I'm asking what pimp means.
c0a5e3 No.14082709
>>14082373
>there are people who hold up the butchering IF and #TMS got as examples of GREAT translations
It still hurts.
https://imgur.com/a/HQpHJ
https://imgur.com/a/X2w49
I'm sure there's stuff I missed that's not in here. Just off the top of my head I remember Treehouse can't even keep whether or not Marx can swim consistent.
>>14082398
itp never played Conquest/Black Kingdom
The rest is accurate though.
d66e21 No.14082720
>>14082705
Pimp is an alpha cuckold who has access to a lot of hot women, but instead of banging them he rents them out for money to other men
now you need to use 30's pimping tips from negroes to deal with >normal women
81829e No.14082730
>>14082709
Remember there's a sort of Stockholm syndrome that causes people to defend shitty localizations. If they think it's either shitty localizations or nothing, they are going to defend shitty localizations.
4b5d0b No.14082736
>>14082720
This post is what happens when you take shitty memes seriously.
>>14082705
Someone who "manages" hookers.
68c237 No.14082759
>>14082736
>>14082720
Okay, that's what I thought pimp meant. So why is it being used like gigolois that the term?
>shitty memes
I'll agree with you in that hot women don't become prostitutes, but fags that sell little girls are 100% cuck.
53235c No.14082785
>>14082730
>there's a sort of Stockholm syndrome that causes people to defend shitty localizations.
Some of them during their childhood or teenage years likely consumed dubs or localizations such as Pokemon & Sailor Moon.
c0a5e3 No.14082815
>>14082759
>>14082785
The weird thing is that most of the people I've seen doing this would relentlessly mock 4Kidz brand of trash one minute then turn around and near-religiously defend Treehouse's shit the next.
4b5d0b No.14082819
>>14082759
Cause niggers began using it simply as "someone who gets a lot of women easily"
81829e No.14082858
>>14082785
Yeah but so did everyone.
53235c No.14082887
>>14082815
Cause trashing 4kids edits is a meme of itself, everyone & their grandma did it & one would have to be a faggot to think they did nothing wrong.
Treehouse on the other hand is bit different as they don't have the same notoriety that 4kids has (yet), Nintendo of America's censorship policy of the 90s gave people expectations that "You don't deserve better, you should be thankful they localized!", & some people at Treehouse have kool-aid drinking friends.
>>14082858
True.
910b4d No.14082895
>>14079065
If there's one thing that I hate fonts in modern games, is that they all use this same stock Arial font for everything now, From Battlefield 1, to SFV, to the System Shock remake, they all have this same generic font, often in boring spreadsheet squares in the menu. It's the games are made to resemble an earnings report.
>>14082785
You have to remember that by this point, kids raised in that Toonami/4kidz generation of broadcast TV anime are pushing 30 and are working in localization. Even when they claim to be passionate about translating Nip games, they never actually got passionate about them as works from Japan, only localized products from their youth.
910b4d No.14082900
>>14082887
What's funny about Sonic X is 4kidz covering cleavage, yet the Sonic game manuals had Rough's chest hanging out for any kid to see.
81829e No.14082910
>>14082895
>Even when they claim to be passionate about translating Nip games
A lot of the time it's not even the translator. I do wonder if the editor has final say, or if the translator is just complicit in the butchering.
53235c No.14082924
>>14082910
In Neptunia Re;Birth 2, it seemed to be the case of the editor having final say since he was not present in Re;Birth 1.
910b4d No.14082934
>>14082910
Glad to Ghideon admit he's a lazy hack.
1cd5da No.14082938
>>14082910
Probably, translator hands in an accurate translation, but editor (some liberal arts SJW tumblr faggot) rewrites and tweaks it.
53235c No.14082948
>>14082924
Also present in Re;Birth 3 & the Noire game.
2c557c No.14083083
>If you have no idea what Shanghai Exe is, it is a Touhou version of Megaman Battle Network, made by the people who did Touhou Live a Live.
NOT EVEN ONCE
f38e39 No.14083282
>>14078543
What? That's not even a translation.
52a25b No.14083327
>>14078892
those cunts are the reason I have to sit half a meter from my tv in some games fuck
I didn't ask to be a half deaf english second language.
8cc0c6 No.14083419
>>14082373
there are still fans trying to undo their sins after all these years with a complete reatranslation
85986c No.14083435
>>14078562
Stop trying brainlet, if you were of true superior intellect you would understand slumming it.
8cc0c6 No.14083437
>>14082910
is it just me or does this sound like the cushiest job on the planet?
>yeah, we'll just rewrite some fairly meaningful conversation into a set of ellipses
<are you sure? we just spent the last ten minutes translating it
>trust me, the fans will love it!
0c7355 No.14083611
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>>14082396
>"We have a decade until a 3DS emulator can actually play a Fire Emblem game"
>Doesn't know that Citra exists
How new are you?
13c00f No.14083627
>>14078543
Your example is shit, a far better one would be Dragon's Dogma. Compare the generic Japanese writing to the English localization, attached is the English one and below is the JP version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVZ6nxAGJZU
They actually did the localization in-house and spent a lot of time consulting with the development team directly since it was done while the game was still in development.
81829e No.14083639
>>14083627
Fun fact: the original game only had English voice acting, even in Japan. They didn't add Japanese VO until Dark Arisen.
2ecce1 No.14083653
>>14083611
eh, last build of citra I tried still couldn't do New Leaf right. That's about the only 3ds game I wanted to tinker with.
13c00f No.14083655
>>14083639
That's true, I forgot to mention that. Most people know that this is also the case with the "Souls" games but its also interesting that Bayonetta didn't have Japanese voice acting until after the anime since so many Japanese fans asked for it.
I'd imagine this is true with some other Japanese games about western settings like maybe Metal Gear Solid but I've only played them in English so I don't know.
81829e No.14083666
>>14083655
Nah, Metal Gear Solid has a proper Japanese track. Koudelka and God Hand were in English though.
5adb8a No.14083682
>>14083611
Citra can't even do a run of Awakening without a fuckton of glitches
cd8bd6 No.14083775
>>14082398
Camilla, Fem Kamui and the dragon powers are still the only thing that caught my attention. I'm never trying out anything nu-Fire Emblem but Awakening at most, which actually looks appealing enough with its plot and characters.
cd8bd6 No.14083781
The only good localization from shithouse was Advance Wars: Days of Ruin and I still enjoy replaying it for the dialogue to this day.
I don't know everything done to TTYD aside from outright retconning the transhit, so I can't judge.