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16dc96 No.14051937

Why was this attack called "Drain" in the NA/EU version? The JP called it "Fire Orb"

What the fuck was Drain supposed to mean?

3a3b4c No.14051995

Because the english translation was absolute dogshit


de4b5c No.14052000

Drain your life on video games.


f85ae8 No.14052023

Best guess? They got it mixed up with a different attack and thought they were naming something that would actually make sense drain. Didn't catch it until it was too late.


7665e8 No.14052026

File: e56b2ee223930cb⋯.png (111.14 KB, 640x640, 1:1, Thinking.png)

What if you pressed "Select" instead of "Start"?


16dc96 No.14052062

>>14052023

Nope

>Drain (Fire Orb, element fire)

>Mega Drain (Lightsaber, element fire)

>Drain Beam (Geyser, element neutral)


16dc96 No.14052067

Actually, looking at the wiki I learned some cool shit.

I mean, I know about the B'Tub ring to get the sheep item, but I didn't know it became a stronger item when used 48 times (why 48?), or how the Quartz Charm increased Star Egg / Rock Candy in power


b29a7a No.14052981

>>14052067

I miss items with hidden effects like that. FFXI in particular was filled with them, even if they were mostly useless.


8befe5 No.14052998

>>14052067

Reading game wikis is dangerous, they made me reinstall Oblivion to check some shit that could be done with magic that I never tried.


3ec825 No.14053014

The thing thats a drain are the jewish people. Destroying the entire planet, its a travesty that they exist, Kikes are not human.


b29a7a No.14053036

>>14052998

What fun is there to have with Oblivion's magic aside from making a max area spell/staff and casting it in a room filled with movable objects?


29170d No.14053573

>>14053036

Self-paralysis.

Also the usual touch attack of all weaknesses 100 for 1 second and as much damage as you can muster.


16dc96 No.14053902

>>14053573

Why would you do self paralysis? What's the point?


29170d No.14053924

>>14053902

Sliding down mountains with no fall damage is fun.

And also, I had this small issue of occasionally mysteriously teleporting into the sky for no discernible reason, and that helped out.

Also, apparently, you can stack weaknesses as long as they come from different spells. And they stack multiplicatively.


cc5faa No.14054022

File: 8a5457f53f329c5⋯.jpg (107 KB, 1280x718, 640:359, 8a5457f53f329c5ee4f7f0fc90….jpg)

>>14051995

Thread should've ended there. NoA localization was never good, people are just more aware of this shit nowdays.


16dc96 No.14054414

>>14053924

> And they stack multiplicatively

Oh boy


c10c8a No.14054460

I always assumed the drain attacks had something in common. Like they were all fire elemental or something.


8befe5 No.14054803

>>14053036

fortify your hores speed


48f64d No.14054811

>>14054803

But I don't want her running away


b29a7a No.14054869

>>14054414

>>14053924

Wouldn't that be worse since it's percentage based?


16dc96 No.14055682

>>14054869

Nope. Path of Exile works similarly.

Let's say you have an attack that does 80 damage. If you have modifiers that stack additively, let's say 20%, 40%, and 33%, you'd sum them then multiply it. Thus, your modifier would be 1.93x stronger, or 154.40.

If you instead took the modifiers and applied them multiplicatively, you'd get a modifier of 2.2344x, or 178.75.

Now there is a point where flat and additive modifiers are better, usually on the low scale of things. But at some point, each source of multiplication gets it stronger and stronger


b29a7a No.14055758

>>14055682

I figured it meant something like "20% increase of a 40% increase" not "20% increase of the result of a 40% increase".


16dc96 No.14055766

>>14055758

Those two statements mean the same thing


3ec825 No.14055819

its what (((mark))) is doing to this board


b29a7a No.14055827

>>14055766

It's the opposite order of operations.


16dc96 No.14055845

>>14055827

(n * 1.2 * 1.4) is the same as (1.2 * 1.4 * n)


f923a7 No.14055848

>>14055827

If I'm reading you right, what you're trying to say is:

"20% increase of a 40% increase" -> 8% (0.2 * 0.4 = 0.08)

"20% increase of the result of a 40% increase" -> 28% (100 * 1.4 * 0.2)

You did, however, say it in a very confusing way.


b29a7a No.14055858

>>14055845

And I'm saying n(1.2 * 1.4) would be less, hence the confusion.


850d45 No.14055881

>>14055766

I see you've never played eve online


f923a7 No.14055895

>>14055858

(n * 1.2 * 1.4) = (1.2 * 1.4 * n) = n (1.2 * 1.4)

These are all the same. Mathematically, there is no dependence on order to multiplicative percentages.


b29a7a No.14055938

>>14055895

Is it? I figured the whole point of parenthesis was to do what was in them first. Hence the PEMDAS acronym.


f923a7 No.14055984

>>14055938

Think of it like this:

Is (1 + 2) + 3 any different from 1 + (2 + 3)? No.

Is (1 * 2) * 3 any different from 1 * (2 * 3)? No.

However:

(1 + 2) * 3 is different from 1 + (2 * 3).

At the risk of oversimplifying it, parentheses only matter for order when there are different "types" of math being done. If all you're doing is multiplying a bunch of numbers, you can do it in any order with or without parentheses. It'll turn out the same. And effectively all you're doing with n (1.2 * 1.4) is a bunch of sequential multiplication the same as (n * 1.2 * 1.4) or (1.2 * n * 1.4) or what have you.


b29a7a No.14056008

>>14055984

I fucked up and realized I meant to write n(1.2 * .4) is less than n(1.2 * 1.4).

>>14055848 is right.


410d78 No.14069332

>>14055938

hows Christmas vacation going? did you do finish your homework yet?

eighth graders intuitively understand the communicative nature of multiplication.




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