7e43d0 No.14006557
Classic RPGs with good stories that have fairly simple Combat Systems? I love Fallout 1 and 2, but can't get into Baldur's Gate for shit.
Couldn't get into PoE because of the combat, and from what I hear Tyranny is also the same.
I'm basically looking for something with a good story without a combat system that requires me to check manuals or learn how to play.
How's Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2?
c33e64 No.14006570
But I hate isometric games.
7e43d0 No.14006584
>>14006570
No I like isometric games
c33e64 No.14006588
>>14006584
Good for you then.
7e43d0 No.14006590
c33e64 No.14006596
>>14006590
You're welcome.
Enjoy your isometric games, my dude.
6f4fcd No.14006599
>>14006557
Really liked both these games used to play the shit out of DS II at lan parties, that and Diablo 2
7e43d0 No.14006614
>>14006599
Played both 1 and 2 when they came out, loved that shit.
Too bad They fucked up the third.
Story wasn't that great though if I remember right, both this and Diablo were both about exploring shit and getting cool weapons.
>>14006596
As long as I can find some, yeah I hope will
98dee7 No.14006629
>>14006570
Oh boy do I have the perfect game for you.
90fbd1 No.14006633
>>14006557
You can skip D:OS 1 it's mediocre imo. D:OS 2 is pretty simple to get into, but remember to not be a pussy and play in tactician mode. Also be sure to play with a friend.
3022fe No.14006637
>>14006557
>I'm basically looking for something with a good story
You're in the wrong medium.
6f4fcd No.14006639
>>14006614
>Story wasn't that great though if I remember right, both this and Diablo were both about exploring shit and getting cool weapons.
Pretty much the story wasn't that bad though certainly wasn't great. Diablo at least had the real demon and angel names going for them. Me and my friends used to pretend we were like "demonologist" and spook other kids with our knowledge of the demon world. Good fucking times.
18801d No.14006640
I thought Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura was a great RPG with a rich story; but it's only glaring flaw and what killed it for me was the awkward combat system. It's a choice between realtime and turn based, and the realtime is way too chaotic and sudden while the turn based is way too sloggy and methodical to be interesting. I should give it another go, because it was a really interesting game. It's isometric too, so it's up your alley in that regard.
8314f2 No.14006646
>>14006557
Tried Spiderweb games, say Geneforge? How about Underrail?
>Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2?
Coop garbage made by SJWs.
90fbd1 No.14006666
>>14006646
Anon have you even played either of them?
7e43d0 No.14006676
>>14006637
Right I forgot about how people love love Fallout, Deus Ex and Planescape Torment for the amazing gameplay
>>14006639
I miss being able to just have stupid fun like that
>>14006646
I forgot about Underrail, I'll try it out.
cd7610 No.14006680
>Fallout 1 and 2's combat is simpler than Baldur's Gate
I think you were just too lazy to read spell descriptions.
8314f2 No.14006685
>>14006666
To my deep regret, yes. I even finished the first one twice. I also finished everything from Larian but the Dragon Commander my save corrupted near the end and I couldn't be arsed ti replay everything
Now away with you spawn of Belzebub.
7e43d0 No.14006689
>>14006680
I just don't like how it works.
Fallout I just get a gun, click it, and click on what I want to shoot. I'd rather have that.
cd7610 No.14006701
>>14006666
>u-undead are people too who deserve rights and consideration!
>not Marxist propoganda
7e43d0 No.14006707
>>14006701
>being racist against the undead
nigga u forreal
90fbd1 No.14006712
>>14006685
>>14006701
Why would you even care if they're made by (((SJWS))) if you can pirate the games and kill all the poz in them?
9339d4 No.14006713
>>14006689
There's more to it than that, you can also target individual parts of the enemy, ranging from the groin to the eyes if you're good enough
7e43d0 No.14006717
>>14006713
Yeah but you never need any of that.
Maybe against Deathclaws, that's it.
Still incredibly simple, it's a step above Final Fantasy Tactics
cd7610 No.14006741
>>14006707
>believing that a group of sapients who do not need to eat or reproduce will share the interests of a group that does
>>14006717
The AP and targeting system by themselves would make FO's combat more complicated than D&D/Baldur's Gate, the only thing that makes D&D combat complicated is magic and stupid fucking rules systems like grappling in 3.5 but that's neither here nor there. Admittedly I can see why you wouldn't want to deal with it though.
6f4fcd No.14006755
>>14006707
>>being racist against the undead
>Smelling like death
>Eating our white woman
>Turning our grasslands into tombstone infested shitholes which they don't even use because they get out of their holes
>Refusing to assimilate into living culture
>Bloating
>Blatant misrepresentation of undeads in movies in games making them more attractive with alive admixture
How can you not be?
7e43d0 No.14006761
>>14006741
>>14006755
>believing that a group of sapients who do not need to eat or reproduce will share the interests of a group that does
>you've led a good life
>finally die
>oh wait what's this
>oh shit I'm back to life even though I don't want to
>oh well look at that people hate me and want to kill me and also have no rights
>fucking great
8314f2 No.14006764
>>14006712
>kill all the poz in them?
>all the poz
>including the design
>including the narrative
>including the hipster references
I'd applaud if you could. Hell, maybe I'd even buy it. But you can't.
cd7610 No.14006768
>>14006761
>oh shit I'm back to life even though I don't want to
>oh well look at that people hate me and want to kill me and also have no rights
>fucking great
Where's the conflict of interest here? The undead wishes to die and righteous folk wish to kill it. The only problem is the disgusting necromancer that bound it to earth against its will.
7e43d0 No.14006774
>>14006768
Yeah they want to murder the undead in cold blood, that's not something you'd want to happen if it were you
8314f2 No.14006779
>>14006768
What if it's a lich?
98c7e4 No.14006781
>>14006774
You can't re-murder something
cd7610 No.14006783
>>14006774
It would if I wanted to die. I don't even have to be brave enough to commit suicide.
7e43d0 No.14006792
>>14006781
You can if undead exist
>>14006783
That's not for you to decide faggot
cd7610 No.14006797
>>14006779
Liches are undead, crimes against the circle of life get annihilated. There aren't any special cases here.
cd7610 No.14006799
>>14006792
Motherfucker the undead wanted to die in the scenario you gave me. Next time read what you write.
7e43d0 No.14006809
>>14006799
They didn't want to die, they didn't want to be brought back to life.
Two completely different things.
Once they're back to life maybe they'd like to meet some people they left behind or do other things before dying again.
Fuck maybe they wouldn't even want to die.
834006 No.14006814
>>14006646
Faggots only appear once or twice, and in both cases, you can elect to kill them with no negative repercussions. Next argument, soy slurper.
e007e7 No.14006822
>>14006557
>can't get into Baldur's Gate for shit.
Probably because bladders gates are shit.
8314f2 No.14006832
>>14006814
Well, that's some out of left field bait even among notgoon shitposting. And I like my bacon thank you very much.
1c5f61 No.14006842
>>14006584
>>14006825
>Liking anything
Get the fuck out shills
cd7610 No.14006844
>>14006809
And how long are they allowed to stay alive? Next you'll be saying that they should vote and hold office. How would you feel if your nation was led by a 900 year old skeleton?
7e43d0 No.14006866
>>14006844
Well I'm fucking sorry, but if the skeleton has the ability to get the people's love and lead a nation then maybe he should be president
c74f17 No.14006879
>>14006844
Anon, there is a skeleton in you right now.
d8030f No.14006884
Undeath is a variable in some systems is a extension of life in a way with some draw backs in others your literally entropy reborn that slowly snuffs out all life around you as your soul is slowly dissolved by the chaotic unlife forces feasting upon your essence in exchange for a extended life.
e138fa No.14006892
>>14006825
opinions are like assholes.
it feels really weird when yours gets destroyed
e007e7 No.14006897
>>14006892
So at the end of the day, good?
dd8dbb No.14006904
>>14006764
>>including the design
>>including the narrative
>>including the hipster references
Nice argument, sadly you will have to provide the proofs cluck cluck.
7cb1a9 No.14006908
>>14006844
>How would you feel if your nation was led by a 900 year old skeleton?
>no flesh, so no bodily desires that can get in the way of running a country
>can't be poisoned, so he can't be covertly assassinated
>900 years old, so he has a wealth of experience
>a fucking undead skeleton, so other world leaders fear and respect him
>so charismatic that he manages to win the public despite being a skeleton
Pretty fucking good, actually.
7e43d0 No.14006914
>>14006904
Can I actually get an example of any of this SJW shit?
Or is this just word of mouth bullshit?
Are people still mad they changed the health and mana orbs?
dd8dbb No.14006930
>>14006914
The only SJW shit is the faggots in the final city of the second game. And everyone is aware of that.
cd7610 No.14006947
>>14006866
Of course, because its not like he's had time to practice lying or anything.
>>14006908
That's all well and good until he makes food illegal because its a waste of time for the Undead Master Race to spend time laboring to make food when they don't need it. Then he'll make air illegal and where will you be then? Out of breath, and also stupid. Checkmate.
216abe No.14007057
>>14006676
Deus Ex at the time had good gameplay doofus, and level design is still unmatched
you're such a fag I'm not sure if you deserve a reply but try Age of Decadence, it's not classic but could pretty much be. Engaging worldbuilding, unmatched choice & consequence in the genre, turn based combat that is tough but fair and it's quite replayable (it's a short game in the vein of FO1)
7e43d0 No.14007071
>>14006947
>Of course, because its not like he's had time to practice lying or anything.
He also has had the time to learn a massive amount of knowledge and wisdom
>>14007057
Deus Ex is almost completely broken. Enemy field of view is unreal, every single enemy knows instantly where you are if you shoot someone from the other side of the map with a silenced weapon, headshots with tranq darts don't seem to do any more effect, the hitboxes for the heads are completely broken leaving you a very small position to actually hit people with your baton for an instant stun.
These are core mechanics. And they don't work. Maybe if that shit worked then yeah, it'd have great gameplay.
I'll try Age of Decadence out, thanks cunt
e138fa No.14007123
>>14006897
Whatareyoufuckinggay.jpg
>>14007057
>Age of Decadence
I found Age of Decadence to be over rated. The world building isn't THAT great, the plot doesn't tie up that well, and the combat was either "way too easy" or "way too hard" depending on your build.
>>14007071
>Enemy field of view is unreal
If you can see them, why wouldn't they be able to see you?
>every single enemy knows instantly where you are if you shoot someone from the other side of the map with a silenced weapon
Having played the game I can confidently say that you're either full of shit, or somehow got a lot of consistent bugs that I've never heard of before.
>headshots with tranq darts don't seem to do any more effect
why would they? Think of a tranq dart as a poison dart which they basically are it doesn't matter where you get shot, because the point is not to cause damage to that area, the point is to inject the poison/sedative and then wait for the poison/sedative to circulate throughout the blood and take effect. Tranq dart headshots don't make sense and weren't a thing until human revolution. In fact if anything a headshot with a tranq dart would be LESS effective, because there's a chance that the dart would penetrate the thin layer of skin, bounce off the skull, and fall to the ground without ever getting a chance to inject the poison/sedative. If anything you'd want to aim for soft fleshy bits, like the stomach.
>the hitboxes for the heads are completely broken leaving you a very small position to actually hit people with your baton for an instant stun.
This is actually a fair criticism.
cd7610 No.14007137
>>14007071
>He also has had the time to learn a massive amount of knowledge and wisdom
Ah yes, the old "He's the most qualified!!!" argument. Career politicians: not even once.
cd7610 No.14007142
>>14007123
>Tranq dart headshots don't make sense and weren't a thing until human revolution
To be precise they weren't a thing until MGS2 which HR blatantly took it from.
7e43d0 No.14007156
>>14007137
General Wisdom, faggot.
Having an all knowing skeleton that has seen it all in control of the country would work amazingly.
>>14007123
>why would they?
Because it's a game, and it would make more sense. This problem, connected with the whole alerting bullshit basically means there is no reason to use tranq darts at any point.
>durr it's not realistic
The game isn't realistic whatsoever. Don't know why it would be in this very specific moment.
3811ff No.14007214
>play older games
>do not worry about pay to win bullshit
4confy8me
e138fa No.14007294
>>14007156
>Because it's a game
Yes, yes it is.
>and it would make more sense.
no it wouldn't. I just explained why it wouldn't.
>The game isn't realistic whatsoever.
It's science FICTION faggot. Of course there are going to be some unrealistic things, but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING has to be unrealistic.
>there is no reason to use tranq darts at any point.
Unless you're going for a pacifist run. Otherwise, yeah you're right. Using the tranq guns would be retarded.
Just like how in real life we don't send SWAT teams into bank robberies with tranq guns and tasers. We send them with rifles, pistols, and explosives.
But if you WANT to use the tranq guns, you have the option.
7e43d0 No.14010250
>>14007294
>durr it's only realistic when I need it to be :^))))))
cc4c3f No.14010286
>>14006640
Arcanum is really great.. if not for the battle system.
It's recommended to just use turn-based and play it.