a1165f No.13994250
More reports about Star Citizen being sued. Apparently there are more details to come and the lawsuit might be bigger than initially thought. Cuckroaches are suing CIG for misusing the CryEngine and breaching contract cause of course they need more shekels.
Whoever loses this, /v/ wins.
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a6cd2f No.13994259
>>13994250
Any new court documents?
330748 No.13994269
What new kind of jpeg could they possibly sell to cover the costs, /v/?
a1165f No.13994270
cc0489 No.13994272
I actually backed this game and let me tell you why. I wanted the best space game ever. Not a mediocre one. Development takes time especially when delivering a AAA game and it is also expensive if you are trying to create something with a lot of detail and features. CIG do not actually charge enough for each ship since creating each ship can cost at least $100k and that is for a small one. The $15k I've invested on the game already is my own money and I intend to give more. This game is in alpha so it is bound to have rough edges and will likely not be ready for several years. Chris Roberts has made the mistake of showing us what the game development process really is like which nobody truly understands his vision. When this game is finally released everyone will be sorry and wanting to play the game.
00f01b No.13994276
>>13994269
I'm sure there are plenty of things left they can whip up in Photoshop in 5 minutes.
>BUY YOUR OWN BASE
>BUY YOUR OWN PLANET
>BUY A STAR SYSTEM AND NAME IT
a1165f No.13994290
>>13994276
Probably do something JewWars Themed and let you build your own Death Star.
a6cd2f No.13994295
>>13994272
Don't you have anything better than reddit pasta?
>>13994270
If only there was some way both of these shit companies would crash and burn because of the lawsuit.
Personally I'm hoping for a long, drawn out lawsuit costing them at least tens of millions, driving them both into bankruptcy.
cc0489 No.13994303
>>13994295
>Don't you have anything better than reddit pasta?
I do but I posted it in the last bread. I felt like being lazy this time around
750478 No.13994304
>crytek trying to get some money to stay afloat by suing people
How have they not shut down yet? They haven't payed their devs in two years and haven't made a successful game in a fucking decade.
Christ nobody even uses their engine, it's that bad
cc0489 No.13994321
>>13994304
They supported Erdogan in his Turkish Coup.
4f56ad No.13994339
>>13994269
a timed exclusive, but it before the court date!
4f56ad No.13994347
>>13994304
ScamCitizen clearly broke the terms of the contract, what's the point of having contracts if you don't plan to enforce them?
c4fb59 No.13994357
>>13994347
Probably cause Chris thought Crytek would go under before he would ran out of funds for Star Shitizen, then he wouldn't have a problem with that deal with Amazon and that CryEngine fork, but oh no, he fucked up.
698882 No.13994359
>>>/gamergatehq/
You all know it will be blamed on us somehow :^)
dd466b No.13994366
>>13994250
>One group of roaches are suing shekelcitizen
>The other group is making butterlord
When did the roaches become our best friends?
750478 No.13994393
>>13994347
Isn't Crytek suing them because they were allegedly making a second game, but that game was Squadron 42 which is the single player component for Star Citizen?
Crytek's just bullshitting to try and scam the scammers
5db35d No.13994404
>>13994393
the fps is as much a part of star citizen as internet explorer was a part of Windows 95, if any of you kids get that reference I'll be amazed
96e1d6 No.13994405
>>13994359
you secretly but not really want it to be about you.
0256ba No.13994424
once you sign a deal to make a game with specific engine, you cant back out and switch engines on a whim
you broke the fucking deal, now you pay
is it as bad as record deal in music business?
no, but still you cant switch shit unless you somehow alter the original agreement with say something like another deal
if they didnt do that, they are fucked, no way around it
0c1a56 No.13994432
What are you fucking retards talking about
>talking shit about Crytek, the greatest devs of the current fucking century
Keep sucking that weeb cock you Mongolian retards, I'll be here playing the eternal GOTYAY Ryse here.
Seriously what has Crytek done since Ryse?
ec8ede No.13994436
I can't believe I'm saying this, but go Crytek.
96e1d6 No.13994442
>>13994432
that VR game "the climb"
This lawsuit
3a6e17 No.13994449
>>13994250
>Cuckroaches are suing CIG for misusing the CryEngine and breaching contract cause of course they need more shekels.
I don't care about Crytek, but it's not Jewish to sue a company who breached contact for that breach. Why do you think contracts exist?
eab2d1 No.13994450
>>13994269
>Lead your friends through an exact reproduction of the courtroom our company is getting assraped in
>Includes two hooknosed cruisers with the faces of each side's lawyers on the side
>>13994393
It's also about not using Cryengine exclusively and not putting the Crytek Logo on all promotional material.
Roberts can't into reading, the terms were quite clear and he still broke the contract like a retard.
I'd be surprised if this wasn't a deliberate thing. Roberts gets an out that makes him look good to his cult following, allowing him to restart the company after it goes under due to legal costs and Crytek gets a windfall of cash from the inevitable settlement.
750478 No.13994481
>>13994404
WOAH GUYS THIS DUDE KNOWS ABOUT WINDOWS 95
PLEASE EVERYONE COMPLIMENT HIM
5532b1 No.13994523
>>13994366
The enemy of your enemy is not your friend, anon.
477d06 No.13994548
How long until we see court time actually happen?
dd466b No.13994647
>>13994523
They're still making butterlord tho.
04ad98 No.13994745
>>13994481
Has there ever been a case of baby posting that was justified?
424643 No.13994752
>tfw World Star Niggerzen will never release
77b527 No.13994908
What interests me is this: Why did CIG/CRoberts feel secure enough to switch the engine despite having a exclusivity agreement with Crytek?
I suspect it's because due to poaching a shitload of ex-Crytek people he knew Crytek was in dire straights and would in all likelihood go bankrupt before they would manage to sue him over breach of contract.
d2c5b5 No.13995020
>>13994908
It seems unlikely that a jew like Roberts would underestimate the legal aggression of a desperate shitskin corporation
77b527 No.13995138
>>13995020
Still, unless you believe in a conspiracy where CRoberts wants an out (because he knows the game can't be made), conspires with Crytek to wreck the project with a lawsuit while he jumps into his new Porsche with Sandi and drives off into the sunset after the settlement, why open yourself to legal issues like that?
Also, behold another backer story (not so) fresh from SA.
18eb25 No.13995143
>>13994366
>making butterlord
Platform Masters will be released before this shit at this point.
aa34ad No.13995583
>>13994269
The rarest of rare Pepes, hand-crafted as ship decals.
1b8c07 No.13995591
>>13995138
>Gently caress
I reserve that for my waifu, thank you very much.
18eb25 No.13995592
>>13995591
It's their wordfilter for fuck.
f75fe0 No.13995598
bc490a No.13995600
>>13995592
>something awful has a word filter for fuck
God damn
b8b0cb No.13995604
>>13995138
He will probably end up murdering his parents.
77b527 No.13995609
>>13995604
Behaviour like that reeks of some sort of depression, so he'd opt for the Jonestown Finish most likely.
18eb25 No.13995610
>>13995600
They have quite a few but I can't remember any but that one. I think logged in members don't see it so it might be to weed out lurker screenshots.
f75fe0 No.13995617
>>13995600
>has a wordfilter for fuck
>the post editing message says “fucked around with”
Poetry.
9c31cb No.13995638
What if this lawsuit is what get Chris Roberts off the hook from actually delivering on his impossible universe simulator?
>Aw sorry guys, it was gonna be the best game ever, we had all the parts almost finished but we got sued. Man I wish I could explain the technicalities of why we can deliver a finished product but that's now illegal and part of the settlement gag order. We appreciate all the years of love and support in sharing our dream!!
>We can only issue refunds on x, but not y
>Significant amount of fans defend CIG because of their fragile egos.
>Narrative is cautionary tale of mismanagement and not fraud
>Small amount of redditors start class action suit that lasts until 2030, eventually they receive $30 apiece.
37d6f7 No.13995654
>>13995604
did they really burn people alive? sounds like bullshit but i don't know anymore
dd466b No.13995666
>>13995143
Yeah, i'm not happy about it either. They're taking for fucking ever. Getting sick of waiting to scratch my medieval slave trader/dutch itch.
73236d No.13995700
>>13995600
SA is a hive of trannyism and social justice, what do you expect?
73236d No.13995715
77b527 No.13995734
>>13995700
What I find funny is that while goons are obsessed with spaaace and many tardlets from Goonswarm did lots and lots of free PR for SC a few years ago (Hell, somebody post those /scg/ infographs for old times sake) nowadays SA has very much turned on Star Citizen and the Cult of Roberts.
57e6cb No.13995739
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>>13995654
>did they really burn people alive? sounds like bullshit but i don't know anymore
Only one way to find out. Buy some jaypegs and go to one of their cons.
0ffba1 No.13995747
>>13995654
'Course they did, anon.
73236d No.13995768
>>13995734
Even they realized how retarded the whole thing is. Which in return means that the average SC backer is dumber than a tranny chasing goon pozzlord.
d021bd No.13995773
>>13994752
I'm more interested in the implications this will have for crowdfunded games.
Could the backers sue Crytek for their lost cash if CIG is forced to close?
d021bd No.13995786
>>13995638
We should hope for this, actually.
>Roberts realizes CIG can never release SC, or if they do, they know it'll never be profitable
>Crytek is also about to go bankrupt for various reasons
>Roberts calls Crytek's turkroach CEOs, has a scheme
>He gets an out, Crytek gets cash, and everyone wins unless you're a backer or CIG employee
>scheme goes through, CIG gets nuked but because they went out of business and get dissolved, they're immune to Kickstarter backer lawsuits
>many months later.jpg
>the scam comes to light because Roberts / Crytek CEO turkroaches are incompetent
>actual jail time handed down and Crytek goes out of business
>mfw
f242b9 No.13995798
>>13995773
That would happen only after the backers try emergency donations to keep Star Citizen alive, at which point how could they sue if they cannot afford the court costs?
d021bd No.13995840
>>13995798
I was just thinking of those other instances (that I don't feel like researching, sorry) of when people sued Kickstarter backers who failed to deliver.
This is an interesting paradox. If Crytek causes CIG to become unable to deliver on their Kickstarter backer promises, are they then liable as per consumer protection laws?
Whatever happens, we'll get a good laugh out of it I'm sure.
dd466b No.13995912
>>13995840
>sorry
Hi canada.
96e1d6 No.13995925
>>13995840
> If Crytek causes CIG to become unable to deliver on their Kickstarter backer promises, are they then liable as per consumer protection laws?
Nope that's not how it works
> people sued Kickstarter backers
You mean the other guys, the backed, the one who didn't deliver
698882 No.13995934
>>13995798
>>13995798
> at which point how could they sue if they cannot afford the court costs
Two words: "Class action"
926fe3 No.13995942
>>13995773
Crowdfunding has mostly died down, or at least big projects have stopped getting much traction as everyone grew weary of all the disappointments. Once SC fails, for whatever reason, that will be the end of crowdfunding games in general.
>>13995840
>when people sued Kickstarter backers who failed to deliver
That's nice. Too bad there is nothing legally binding about kikestarters that forces them to actually deliver a product. You're basically donating to a bunch of people and it's up to them if they'll bother to give you what they promised.
96e1d6 No.13995953
>>13995934
Also the lawyer can say "pay me later if everything goes well"
d021bd No.13995966
>>13995925
>sued backers
Yeah, sorry; meant they sued the people running the Kickstarter.
d2a724 No.13995976
So from what I understand they bought the Crytek engine dirt cheap but only on the condition they exclusively use it, hand any bug fixes and engine improvements they made to crytek and keep their company logo attached to the game but Cloud Imperium refused to follow though on any of the terms agreed upon before jumping to amazon's engine?
If so then it seems like a slam dunk case in Cryteks favour they had a contract and Cloud Imperium failed to abide by it.
dd466b No.13995986
>>13995976
But you forget that Roberts has a +8 in swindling. I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to squirm his way outta this.
18eb25 No.13995998
>>13995976
On the other hand, Chris has friends in Hollywood.
d021bd No.13996024
>>13995986
I'll be interested to see if it goes to court or if RSI tries to settle. I think the brief explicitly asks for a jury trial, too
dd466b No.13996040
>>13996024
>asks for a jury trial
Can he manipulate it to only have shekelcitizen backers on the jury?
18eb25 No.13996047
>>13996040
It would be incredibly easy for the court to find any transaction info regarding that and excuse any potential jurors that show up on the list.
d2a724 No.13996048
>>13996040
Someone should inform the judge ahead of time about the cult Chris leads just to be safe none of them get on the jury.
24d700 No.13996056
>>13996040
Maybe if Crytek's lawyer was really awful at his job and from the sound of things he's not.
dd466b No.13996065
>>13996047
>>13996048
Someone should contact the crytek lawyer then.
>>13996056
That's surprising since the turks have almost no money anymore. Maybe they're banking entirely on taking roberts for all he's worth?
77b527 No.13996074
>>13996048
Don't worry, Crytek pretty much hired Dry, Assrape, NoLube & Partners LLP to do their lawyering, they'll have their homework done.
>>13996065
They're roaches, their money is most likely hidden by their relatives (who're probably on the dole in Germany or something).
d021bd No.13996076
>>13996040
No. Jury selection will be based on venue and the most they could do would be to try to weed out non-backers.. but then Crytek's council would absolutely get those people removed from the jury pool for a clear bias.
88d01d No.13996080
this is interesting news probably because CIG or Roberts showed so much false tech demos of cryengine 3 that if the game comes out. crytek would probably lose allot of potential licensees or it would destroy the brand that is cryengine.
That is my short take on it. Also din't Derek Smart say that CIG would go under but that was 2 years ago or something.
0d2aba No.13996106
>>13995666
you will get it soon satan
926fe3 No.13996162
>>13996080
The fact they would go under was obvious since the get go considering how the development of Freelancer went and the feature creep SC experienced, the only question is when.
dd466b No.13996195
>>13996074
Doesn't explain their other failures and dying company.
>>13996076
Then Roberts is fucked worse than the furrys who pretend to be playing his game?
>>13996106
Don't lie to me anon. I will be upset.
e07002 No.13996207
>>13994548
If this is the United States court system we're talking about, they'll get a court date some time within the next 3-5 years, and it will be resolved within 10.
Our court system is backlogged up to a decade currently.
18eb25 No.13996217
>>13996207
Corporate hearing tend to go through the pipeline quicker. It's mostly criminal cases that are backed up like that.
d021bd No.13996256
>>13996195
>is ROberts fucked?
CIG/RSI might be fucked, but he himself is probably immune from direct prosecution unless there's some weird ownership/tax dodge thing between him, RSI, CIG, and the Star Citizen IP.
Having read the filing, it sounds like some of Crytek's claims are certainly valid (like failing to disclose CryEngine's use in various demos or otherwise removing the logos, or failing to honor various terms of the CryEngine licensing deal in good faith), and some are total bullshit. (Like 'leaking' the CryEngine source code by posting bug fix videos from their devs online.)
If the judge is versed in software rights / IP law and if RSI's lawyer isn't a muppet, I could see some of those charges getting tossed. However, Crytek is seeking damages 'significantly in excess of $75k', so who the hell knows just how much those roaches will actually try to get
>>13996207
>>13996217
>case gets delayed five years
>either Crytek goes under before the case goes to trial
>or Star Citizen is released in some stillborn form and any money earned is then lost to Crytek at trial
dd466b No.13996474
>>13996256
How much do you think they could reliably get out of this?
d021bd No.13997173
>>13996474
No way to know, anon. I'm sure Crytek wants as much as they could get; millions, probably. Too bad CIG probably only has barely enough to keep payroll going, lel
6685a5 No.13997295
Charles Manson
Jim Jones
Chris Roberts
6b6206 No.13998196
This is going to be the next SCO vs. IBM lawsuit.
6b6206 No.13998398
>>13996256
>some are total bullshit. (Like 'leaking' the CryEngine source code by posting bug fix videos from their devs online.)
CryEngine is not an open source engine.
CIG has acquired a cheap source license for the engine (together with the contract they broke), but that doesn't allow them to give the source code to third parties, like YouTube or that Faceware company.
6b6206 No.13998403
>>13996195
>Doesn't explain their other failures and dying company.
Xbone's total failure and CryTek exclusive title flopping due to that and Roberts not paying royalties.
6b6206 No.13998433
>>13998425
Nothing could have been, the project is FUBAR.
926fe3 No.13998464
>>13998425
More like
>cockroaches bring /v/ a new attraction in Robert's Flying Circus
58b8bf No.13998486
I wish Crytek would die so someone else (good if possible) would do SOMETHING with TimeSplitters.
On the other end Chris Roberts does deserve to be sued.
I hope they somehow eat each other to death.
77b527 No.13998515
>>13998398
There's a forum post by Erin Roberts from 2014(?) where he says they can do whatever they want because they bought out the engine, this was around the same time Crytek was rumored be filing for insolvency soon.
>>13997173
The real fun is going to start when RSI gets dragged into discovery, forcing them to open up their financials.
There's a veritable skeleton army in that closet I bet.
3bd560 No.13998526
Scam Citizen threads are always like sweet ambrosia to me.
9f7b88 No.13998680
>>13994404
HOLY SHIT WE GOT A HISTORIAN HERE!
6f01aa No.13999609
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>>13994404
LMOA WHAT AN OLDFAG HE USES WINDOOS XD LIKE DIS IF UR A 90S KID
e962b7 No.13999638
>>13999609
Are you alright annon?
f97182 No.13999771
>>13994481
That was a mistake shitty cuckchanner, the average anon on 8ch is in his forties.
d021bd No.13999839
>>13998398
What I mean, anon, is that there's a big difference between a company (for example) uploading actual source code files from an engine to the internet vs. pictures of that engine's developer screens being in the background for a few seconds during a video. CIG didn't give Youtube any source code; this is a total bullshit argument from Crytek's side.
>>13998515
>that picture
Confirmed that Erin Roberts has no fucking idea how contracts work. All CIG got from Crytek was a license to use CryEngine; they didn't buy the fucking IP rights to the engine. Dumb bitch.
>discovery leading to CIG/RSI having to open up the books
This is probably the most salient point made in this thread; kudos! Yes, this would be the funniest thing about the trial, even though I doubt it would go public as I'm sure RSI/CIG would fight to say 'Ok, but only the prosecutor and judge can see it'. Assuming there's no malfeasance in the books to begin with - I wouldn't be surprised at all if their accounting was screwy.
12f682 No.13999885
Isn't this the game that MWLLfags shilled?
ca9db0 No.13999965
Im gonna hope roberts wins. Not because I believe in star citizen bht because I was hoping he would milk retards for few more years and then bail without excuse. This way turkroaches are going to stay afloat for few more misarable years before inevitably going under while giving Roberts the perfect excuse to run away with the rest of the money.
28bb35 No.14000047
>>13999885
There's a couple of fags in MWLL who are into it, but only one actually shills it, to my knowledge and we all despise him
1f68c9 No.14000200
>>13999839
>Confirmed that Erin Roberts has no fucking idea how contracts work. All CIG got from Crytek was a license to use CryEngine; they didn't buy the fucking IP rights to the engine. Dumb bitch.
160 mil and no money to hire a lawyer to translate contracts to layman speak? I don't buy it.
e8e5e0 No.14000218
>>13994250
Are you niggers RPing or do you seriously think that Star Citizen is a scam?
ddb92c No.14000290
>>14000218
Go to bed Chris.
88d01d No.14000347
>>14000218
It was not originally a scam but they added allot of mods and so on that would make it unlikely to actually work from a technical perspective if they did not heavily modify the engine.
I raised the concern to Derek Smart for fun and he wrote a blog about it, he does not go too technical into it. I gave him a more technical reasons onto why it would not work and how they would fuck it up.
So from my little experience with cryengine I could only see it all work if he created zones even then it would be limited to do the things he wants to do, the overall problem is that it's a good engine for fps and tps, it's rather great in that department and it's memory of object rolling to staying there. But when roberts talks about it doing amazing things like creating a star system that acts like a hub then going to a planet and each of them has a level or 2 and it's not randomly generated.
0d2aba No.14000382
>>14000218
hello there fellow backer, may i ask how much money did you spend on images of spaceships? come on spit it out.
e8e5e0 No.14000678
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>>14000347
I don't think you're following this topic closely because recently CIG managed to implement all the necessary tech to deliver on their promises.
Star Citizen's new engine allows it to stream in areas,ships and planets without the need for loading screens and levels as you put it.Also it only loads necessary assets which are relevant to the player with varying LOD so it doesn't affect performance and maintains graphical fidelity.The final product is a seamless large universe with visually stunning details.
f7424d No.14000723
>>14000678
And all of that is meaningless if there's absolutely nothing to do. No one is criticizing graphical fidelity here, but the absurd business model and the lack of any meaningful gameplay content after six years only makes it an expensive walking simulator.
f7424d No.14000730
Oh shit, didn't realize there was a >>14000000 get.
655deb No.14000737
>>13995138
>goon calling someone a mentally disturbed idiot
Heh
926fe3 No.14000807
>>14000678
>Star Citizen's new engine allows it to stream in areas,ships and planets without the need for loading screens and levels as you put it.
And the limit of players per instance is 24, and all footage we have seen of the engine in action with more than one ship involved was in silky smooth one digit FPS. Also, it's not a new engine, it's just a CryEngine fork with all the limitations of the original.
e8e5e0 No.14000982
>>14000723
>>14000807
I was discussing with the other anon that the game's pitch isn't impossible hence why Star Citizen by definition isn't a scam.
As for gameplay it's no secret that the game is under development and lacks some elements.Currently there's ground and space combat,npcs,racing and a variety of missions.That's enough content to get the single player campaign "Squadron42" released.
Otherwise CIG is running a test server with 4 moons,trading and piracy mechanics and up to 100 players per instance
>It's just a CryEngine fork with all the limitations of the original.
Factually wrong mate.For example CryEngine has a limited map size and Star Engine doesn't have that issue.
926fe3 No.14001014
>>14000982
>it's no secret that the game is under development and lacks some elements
It's been in development for five years and there is nothing to show for it. Every feature is broken, every feature is poorly implemented, they haven't even put together 10% of the promised stuff and all they seem to do is figure out new ways to monetize the vapor pretending to be a game.
>Currently there's ground and space combat,npcs,racing and a variety of missions.
Kill yourself and your family, goon. Do them a mercy before we get to them.
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85ae47 No.14002025
>>13996256
>he himself is probably immune from direct prosecution
nothing will save him from the murder-suiciders.
f966a5 No.14002180
>>14000982
>Factually wrong mate.For example CryEngine has a limited map size and Star Engine doesn't have that issue.
You know what a fork is? Or even what an engine does?
Map size limit change doesn't turn it into a new engine.
d021bd No.14003233
>>14000200
The likely answer here is that they signed the deal with Crytek years back and no one remembered the terms. Common thing. I mean, can you recall the terms of an EULA you signed when you installed a game back in 2012?
da797b No.14003319
>>14003233
>can you recall the terms of an EULA
Except most people don't read it. Sure, if you or your company is spending thousands or millions on rights to software, assets, or whatever, you're probably going to care a lot more about the license agreement, but compared to your average Joe, he's not going to care about the EULA for the shitty $60 AAA game he's playing. (and possibly pirated which already violates the "agreement") There's a lot more you can risk when you're spending more money, but that part should be obvious.
d021bd No.14003411
>>14003319
My point was that no one, not even the company's lawyer, is going to remember the terms of a contract verbatim. Hell, even if the lawyer did memorize it end to end, he'd have to be totally plugged into and aware of everything that's going on at the company at all times. (Which is unreasonable.)
That said, if Crytek did indeed email CIG and say 'ayy, you dun goofed' and CIG ignored / didn't care, that's a different story entirely. Which if Crytek can prove, CIG is screwed.
24d700 No.14003461
>>14003411
>My point was that no one, not even the company's lawyer, is going to remember the terms of a contract verbatim
That's why they PRINT IT OUT AND FUCKING SIGN IT
SO EVERYONE HAS A COPY AND KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT'S UP
AND IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT THEY CAN JUST GO FUCKING READ IT
EVERYTHING IS WRITTEN DOWN AND SIGNED
EVERYTHING
NOBODY FUCKING PLAYS GAMES WHEN YOU'VE GOT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE LINE EXCEPT RETARDED CHILDREN LIKE CHRIS ROBERTS
d021bd No.14003543
>>14003461
Anon, I'm sorry, but you just don't know how this shit actually works. Let me educate you as someone who has drafted, reviewed, and processed hundreds of professional business contracts:
>two or more parties agree to a business cooperation
>terms are drafted, reviewed, negotiated, and eventually settled
>terms are then formalized in a document (the contract)
>contract is reviewed again, adjustments made if needed, and finalized by all parties signing
>each side has a copy of the signed contract, and this can sometimes be a paper document, a PDF, or handled through a document website
>once finalized, it's unlikely any party will actively review or look at the contract again unless they need to check on milestones or something
>document sits in a filing cabinet / server / web server somewhere, untouched, forever
What it sounds like happened is CIG breached terms of the contract (knowingly or unknowingly), was notified about some of those breaches, but choose to ignore the warnings from Crytek.
So it's totally understandable for CIG to forget the minutiae of the contract, but it's ridiculous that they'd ignore official warnings from Crytek. (And this is what could fuck over CIG royally in court.)
Hopefully that clarifies it.
85ae47 No.14003585
>>14003543
It's clear that Crytek isn't being a dick here, they've been wronged according to the contract. More wood for the fire that keeps me warm. Funny how these days I get more enjoyment from games failing hard than games themselves.
fd6e90 No.14004243
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
just when you though it couldn t get worst
found this video who just list the claims without going into BS youtuber thoughts
fd6e90 No.14004284
>>13999609
this isn t even proper english
3eb35d No.14004315
>>14003585
>Funny how these days I get more enjoyment from games failing hard than games themselves.
Isn't it, though? The vast majority of my vidya enjoyment for the better part of the last decade has come from cackling with glee every time there's industry drama to ridicule; I barely play video games and what I do is usually either old PC titles or in-house Nintendo games.
5102ff No.14004871
I backed this game in May 2013 for $40 and I think I'm getting a decent return for my investment as I absolutely love all the salt from the cultists defending this game and the hilarious attacks from people who call it out for the scam it is. This lawsuit is like a cherry on top! Its not quite the outcome I expected, but I'm still thoroughly entertained.
f8140a No.14004903
>>14004871
Jokes on you, I paid nothing and get just as much salt.
38b3ee No.14004908
>>14004871
>>14004903
I've yet to see substantive evidence to prove that Star Citizen is a scam.
So could you just fill me in on that?
19ee40 No.14004911
>>13994250
>not Shekel Yidizen
Come on OP, one job.
0b73eb No.14004920
>>14004908
Just how new are you?
99c26d No.14004954
>>13995138
>>13995604
cool, any more stories of this?
18eb25 No.14004987
>>14003233
I sincerely doubt they would be dumb enough to do that.
99c26d No.14005067
>>13998392
what's the source
3bd560 No.14005223
>>14004908
>We're making a game where you can do everything and anything you'd ever like
>Just buy this $400 jpeg
>Now buy ten more
>Support the development, buy more jpegs
>This picture of a ship is limited, $500 get yours before it's too late
>(All these jpegs will go up in price, it's an investment!)
>Look at all these car ship commercials, maybe one day we'll make a game where any of this matters
38b3ee No.14005286
>>14005223
All this is amounts to is poor monetization and a bad business model.Not a proof of an ongoing scam.Nice try though.
fd6e90 No.14005302
>>14005286
released as MVP ?
scadron 42 is now a separate game ?
6fb4ee No.14005319
>>14004925
>>14004908
>>14005286
Wew, you guys came out of the woodwork fast. They had a campaign recently to 'recruit' new backers by sharing a referral link, and you'd get points if someone used your link to back SC (minimum $40 a piece). Its a ponzi scheme except no one gets any money at the end, just jpegs, UEC, and crap for their hangers.
3b8bc2 No.14005345
>>13999771
?
Did you start browsing imageboards back in 86’, deciphering shitposts in binary on your Apple 2?
8a819e No.14005384
>>14005286
Just because you're bad at reading the red flags, does not mean the high potential for a scam does not exist.
a6cd2f No.14005413
>>14005067
Anon, its in the first second of the webm.
38b3ee No.14005423
>>14005302
The game isn't released yet.Giving early access builds to backers is a kickstarter promise.As for sq42 they have the right to monetize their product as they please ofc as long as original backers get both the single player and multiplayer games because that's also a promise.
>inb4 cig have the CryEngine licence for only 1 game
Well that's something for Crytek to prove in court.
>>14005319
>Devs aren't wasting half of the game's budget on marketing
And what's wrong with this?
>It's like a ponzi scheme except it's not
gif related
dd466b No.14005441
>>14005319
Isn't that literally a ponzi scheme? You make little to no money and the guys at the top of the pyramid get everything like nines says in vtmb
99c26d No.14005474
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14005413
yes, I know that. I'm talking about the editing.
5c96d7 No.14007330
Squadron 42 was the game that Chris Roberts pitched on Kekstarter and was what he secured a Cryengine license for. They do not have a license to use Cryengine on Star Citizen
85ae47 No.14007372
>>14007330
>Kickstart single player game
>Expand into MMO
>Separate both titles
>Abandon single player one
What was he even thinking?
fd1b6f No.14007401
>>14007372
Think Destiny 1 sales gave dumb designers the hope of the MMO again?
5102ff No.14007425
>>14007401
No, he came up with this before that game. It is entirely due to a massive amount of feature creep.
85ae47 No.14007431
>>14007425
Ironic that the feature creep ended up making them abandon the single player experience that gave them their first notoriety.
fd1b6f No.14007438
>>14007425
Did he actually make the games he is "known" for or is it like Inafune and Warren Spector?
5c96d7 No.14007465
>>14007438
He isn't. His brother Erin Roberts is actually the guy behind making his games work.
18eb25 No.14007468
>>14007438
The guy came from the same studio as Spector so take a guess.
fd1b6f No.14007479
>>14007468
Well someone there had to make the fucking games.
5c96d7 No.14007533
>>14007479
Not if you are CIG :^)
266491 No.14007560
>>14005474
>People tried to clone Gone Home
>People tried to pitch monetization models
No — you can't call them "people", can you?
fd1b6f No.14007608
>>14007533
Well they haven't made any games so that goes without saying. Ion Storm though made games, good ones, so somebody had to make them.
ca198a No.14007733
To compensate for your loss, have a free spaceship
4763a0 No.14007754
>>14007733
Thank you I've donated 700 dollarydoos to you for being so generous
5c0783 No.14007755
>>14004925
They wont. Where do you think they come after their periodic shoah-ings for wrongthink?
cc0489 No.14007756
>>14007733
>.png
That's no jpeg!
SCAMMER!
18eb25 No.14007759
4763a0 No.14007784
>>14007756
>>14007759
You're just jealous I bought it first
18eb25 No.14007815
>>14007784
You'll have to show you're fursuit if you want to convince any of us, comrade.
ca198a No.14007839
>>14007756
>>14007759
Don't be so entitled, but fine, have some free dlc
a5bcf9 No.14007841
>>13994988
I didn't know laughingwhores.jpg had sequels
fd6e90 No.14009970
Oh god, how can one be this retarded .
>i m gonna put more money if it help keeping the game alive
18eb25 No.14009984
>>14009970
>how do you do fellow backers who are in no way sockpuppet accounts
658676 No.14010041
>>14009984
They really are that culty.
36923b No.14010062
>>14004243
holy shit if any of this is real they are going to get fucked/ not really maybe. but crytec will have them by the balls. and honestly it seems like (threw the implications of the demands made) that they themselves believed that star citizen could be the best game ever and wanted it as a poster child for their engine. and with the gross disregard to the contract that they signed. (almost as if they where in fact incapable with managing a large business, like shit share your patches with us how fucking hard would that be/LEAVE OUR FUCKING LOGO ON THE LOADING SCREEN YOU FUCKTARDS) & a response of ending contact with them when demands where being made.
i mean hot dam. one of the few sets of laws in this crazy dystopian future that are actually enforced is contract law. and they have them by the balls but they also want best game ever to be made with their game engine. so its a fucking coin flip on weather they are going to steal all their money or take over management of the project.
fd6e90 No.14010123
>>14010062
SC fanboy defense is that they bought the engine in 2014 so they were free of such obligations.
http://archive.is/6wwgX (last message)
However that could be simple PR managment since we still know nothing of the negociations leading to this buyout of the cryengine in 2014.
The "below market price" maybe have been regarding THIS buyout for thoses condition.
Wait and see but regardless: this will be entertaining to watch.
9dea85 No.14010141
>>14010123
This lawsuit might take years to settle.Might as well watch the grass grow if you find this kind of stuff entertaining.
36923b No.14010164
>>14010123
just because you "purchase" a game engine does not mean that you own the source code.
The game was licensed to them under conditions that they violated. or crytec claims. but whipping out the razor here they would not want to kill crytec fear of alienating others from their game engine. they cannot go full shekel grab mode (witch is probably what starfags are thinking) as that is just bad fucking business. if there was no contract violated then crytec would have no grounds for a suit. so we can only assume that there is a ligament case here.
fd6e90 No.14010178
>>14010141
the lawsuit yes, but the reaction wont. it will have an effect on the dev or SC. even moreso if CIG know they will have to pay something.
>>14010164
my point exactly, it's just like when you buy a game and you can decompile it. that's doesn t mean you can legaly copy it and give that said game to everyone.
here and from the dev comment: it's more about: Iff crytek go under: we still have the source code to develop it without crytek employee… and that seems to be precicely the point of thsi contract:
>buy cryengine at reduce market price vs thoses future obligations
and that explain why thoses obligation include: sharing optimisation of performances etc …
658676 No.14010194
>>14010123
Even in the absolute best dream of the fanbois and ignoring all the other stuff after 2014, through 2014 with the original agreement in place they had already taken in $65M, done substantial development, and released parts of the game (e.g. Arena Commander). So an 'engine buyout' wouldn't get them completely off the hook here. At best it would limit the damage.
f80568 No.14010226
>>14010194
How much money did they get in total?
About 100 million? More?
cc0489 No.14010262
>>14010226
Why are you posting pictures of a trap anon?
658676 No.14010279
>>14010226
They're at nearly $174M last I checked.
658676 No.14010285
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Also, for your entertainment, the holiday 2015 livestream.
f80568 No.14010368
File: 116f1d9c0b6fe53⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 80.01 KB, 639x900, 71:100, df8b01fcd37f8a240622cfe6fb….jpg)
>>14010262
>Prisma Illya.
>trap
It's a loli.
>>14010279
>174 million
>5 years
>still selling jpegs and "land claims"
>still no release date
How far can they go?
3bd560 No.14011257
>>14007733
It's only valuable once you add in a ton of fluff (which totally has relevance in game!). Here, let me help.
This freighter, manufactured by the TetraQuantum Assembly, is one of the most relied upon cargo transport craft known to space farers. It packs a full suite of Stellar Forge gun mounts to guard the valuables inside as well as a Tier 3C surveillance kit to detect any pirates trying to make a covert approach. The CS-class variant replaces some of the bulky Vanguard armor with the revered GHLuHLUU Coterie designed NanoShadow stealth alloy to protect it from law enforcement scans of up to Grade Gamma-7 tier Magnum EMag sweeps!
>>14007839
This HA-CAR Combine developed StarSpawn probe can be launched as a forward scout or left behind to keep tracks of ship movements of the area. With NanoShadow alloy protection it can elude EMag sweeps of up to Grade Titan-Alpha-Bravo or photon scans of level BISHOP-11-1a. The potent SimInt core allows elaborate automated navigation even in dense asteroid fields and the Bloodhound-C16 anti-matter thruster enables rapid evasive maneuvers and increased likelihood of survival if the probe comes under attack.
99c26d No.14013597
>>14007560
they trying to be "nice" to them, you know what happens If you try to piss them off.
47d563 No.14013619
>>14007841
>whores
>not taking an obnoxious amount of pictures of themselves
658676 No.14014151
>>14011257
How do I give you all my money.
8d2605 No.14016775
>>13994269
Maybe they'll sell premium quality pngs at a higher cost to fund their lawyers.
da8b53 No.14016858
>>14016775
They are selling heavy tanks now but to be fair they were announced months before the lawsuit.
ab05e8 No.14016950
>>14016550
It took them twenty years to make a cutscene.
d46773 No.14016995
>>14016550
my favorite part is when they pandered to normalfags about having Mark Hamill and put zero effort into talking about the gameplay, story, mechanics, or anything else related to the product
da8b53 No.14016999
>>14016995
It's a teaser for tomorrows stream.There's more information in their website if you want.
97f31f No.14017041
>>14016999
Unless the stream is "Surprise, singleplayer is finished and it's dropping TODAY!" I don't care.
da8b53 No.14017099
>>14017041
They are giving gameplay demos with preorders that's more than any AAA developer will offer
18eb25 No.14017149
>>14017099
This game is AAA you illiterate goon.
da8b53 No.14017158
>>14017149
It's not funded by a publisher so it's an indie game by definition.
fd6e90 No.14017252
>>14017099
they are selling squadron 42 for 60$ as a standalone …
>>14017158
they have a publisher: Cloud Imperium Games
they even have divisions and Subsidiaries.
Being an indi game mean not having ways to market your game outside from the help of other player/fan with the use of word of mouth and pure interest if the project.
Else you are saying EA is a indy dev because it only live through donation via its lookbox system and people who pay for their games…
I am so sad that aside from the guy who threaten the dev to ask a refund if they do not become transparent about the 88m used, no one asked again.
In the end CIG just refunded him to avoid doing that … and nobody on that cult ever thought it was strange
da8b53 No.14017323
>>14017252
>they are selling squadron 42 for 60$ as a standalone …
pic related
>Being an indi game mean not having ways to market your game outside from the help of other player/fan with the use of word of mouth and pure interest if the project.
Cloud Imperium Games doesn't have a marketing budget and only relies on giving "exclusive" sneak peeks to gaming news outlets like IGN and PC gamer or the referral program and the community.
9d0e15 No.14017329
>>13994269
Only for a limited time!
(While supplies last)
fd6e90 No.14017397
>>14017323
yea right, praise the USA and their retarded way of exhibiting prices: without taxes.
da8b53 No.14017414
>>14017397
>implying i'm from the USA
c818f5 No.14017460
Some fresh ships for sale, who wants to buy off me, christmas is just around the corner come on goys and grills.
This one is the "Deekbhut", a towing class tugship at a glance but with modifications under the hood that makes it perform like an agile fighter. Named after the genetically modified fighting fish seen in the illegal gambling pits of the night markets in Anjaros IV.
YOURS FOR THE SPECIAL PRICE OF $199.99
c818f5 No.14017467
>>14017460
*$199.99 is a limited time introductory down payment price. Total price is to be announced, does not include taxes and import duties.
bf8add No.14017520
>Cloud Imperium Games doesn't have a marketing budget
wew. They spend tens of millions yearly on all sorts of big events like citizencon, produce weekly highly produced video segments like Around the 'Verse, have video series like Bugsmashers, do big cross-promotion deals with companies like Intel, etc.. Their marketing budget is larger than the dev budget of most non-AAA games.
da8b53 No.14017593
>>14017520
>They spend tens of millions yearly on all sorts of big events
citations needed
>highly produced video segments like Around the 'Verse
Are also crowdfunded.
>big cross-promotion deals with companies like Intel
They basically do it for free.In a fair trade intel gave them new equipment and paid for the event in exchange for promoting their new ssd.Same thing happened with AMD last year.
0e32e7 No.14017607
>>14017593
>citations needed
>anon literally names citizencon
You gotta be trying real hard to be this willfully ignorant.
aa34ad No.14017617
>>14017593
>Are also crowdfunded.
You seem to be confused. It doesn't matter whether their marketing budget is crowdsourced or not; they still have money that they spend on marketing their product. I don't believe that having a marketing budget inherently makes you non-indie like the other anon, but you have to be pretty willfully ignorant to state that the marketing budget doesn't exist.
4f34ef No.14017673
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Believe in our Lord and Saviour Roberts and you too can become a Citizen of the Stars /v/.
THIS IS YOUR FINAL CALL
fd6e90 No.14017696
>>14017593
dude are you saying that because it's crowdfunded: it is independant?
wow if that's the case EA and activision too. you are technically crowdfund them by buying their shit.
you speak like everyone aside from the big3 (EA ubisoft activision) are independant. as if activision EA and ubisoft were born big and didn t started from just a couple of guy self funding their stuff…
the point is: no matter were the money come: if you can have marketing budget then you are a "A title" and the more money you pour into it the more "A" you get until you become a "blockbuster of video game".
It's easy: an independant developper are dev were all the money is put into development and were the advertising is made by the fanbase.
as soon as you have your OWN *con and stuff you are a tripple A
WoW isn't independant
EVE online isn't independant
unless you are so retarded that, as i said:
>being independant = being independant from activision/EA/ubisoft
d46773 No.14017732
>>14017593
all of your posts reek of shill. is chris paying you that well or are you just that desperate to defend the scam you unwisely bought into?
da8b53 No.14017737
>>14017607
Sorry you don't seem to get that i was asking citations for the "tens of millions" claim.That's an absurd number for such a small event.
>>14017617
I know that any money they make of selling tickets for events and subscriptions is part of a marketing budget i'm just arguing that it's no where near the marketing budget of AAA games.
>>14017696
EA and Activision have investors and are in no way self funded or independent.
bf8add No.14017741
>>14017593
Come clean, anon. How many jpegs do you own?
da8b53 No.14017742
>>14017732
yes i get paid in pngs
now post more semen demons you slut
77a749 No.14017896
>>14017867
>Tumbril
>
>95-725$
This shit writes itself, thwe only thing that could make it better was if it came with neon hair highlights.
da8b53 No.14017916
>>14017896
A tumbril is a horse-drawn cart and has nothing to do with the website tumblr you cro-magnon.
fd6e90 No.14017947
>>14017916
>A tumbril is a horse-drawn cart and has nothing to do with the website tumblr.
it have as much (if not more) to do with it than with an actual space tank or system of legendary warrior [quote more buzzword from the ad]
928d1c No.14018035
>>14000678
>thumbnail
>3.0
>game isn't out
>it's still just expensive jpgs
What?
fd6e90 No.14018133
>>14018035
Asuming it isn't a scam top fking kek : IIRCstar citizen is the only game featuring version above 1.0 when the game isn t commertialy out yet. it trully bugs me.
kind of remind me of steamgreelight "scam" with TONS of "updates" with version like 14.5, 20 updates a month for "fucking nothing"
bf8add No.14018608
>>14017867
Yep. They sent it exclusively to their whales, the "concierge" members (people who have spent over $1k on jpegs). The game doesn't even have proper space battles yet but act now and get your $700+ dollar land mistake.
13a1c1 No.14018903
>>13998486
Let the dead rest in piece. Do you want another Tomb raider scenario?
Timesplitters 2017 would be a reboot.
13a1c1 No.14018923
>>13996207
Goddammit I want /v/ on jury duty.
>WE THE JURY FIND THE DEFENDANT GUILTY OF ALL CHARGES
522a65 No.14018929
>>13994272
Cringe
This cuck paid $15k for star citizen post your reaction when you read that
7fbc6a No.14018967
No news on star citizen related suicides yet?
13a1c1 No.14018975
>>14018929
Man you can go full Hotwheels for a week with 15k.
Champagne, cocaine and 12 year old prostitutes in a 5 star hotel swimming pool. Make a nice JPEG for prosperity
c7dc0e No.14019118
c7dc0e No.14019154
79e7e1 No.14019226
>>13994304
I think the last game to use their engine was Prey 2017 aaand…that's about it, actually.
It's a shame, because early Crytek was full of promise and some impressive talent but then the founders had to throw that away to pursue the cowadoody audience.
>>13994321
Because he bailed their company out with $500 million dollars. When you're in as deep shit as Crytek, you don't have the luxury of turning down those kinds of deals, even if it comes from Hitler himself.
4c1382 No.14019285
>>14018923
If I remember correctly, civil law doesn't use juries.
aa34ad No.14019337
>>14019285
It does in burgerland, which is where this lawsuit is being filed.
9a7f92 No.14019345
>>13995138
>Spending $146 per month on a streaming site for movies you could essentially pirate with a VPN or watch with fucking Kodi.
This idiot deserves to be homeless, especially if you're almost 30 and still this dumb.
658676 No.14019366
>>14019226
>not dreaming of using papa Hitler's money to fight the evil Jews of Shekel Citizen
e4f052 No.14019425
>>14019285
>>14019337
Civil suits absolutely use juries, anon. I think it only comes down dollar amount (ie: scale of trial) before you get jury or no jury. (Like small claims court doesn't have a jury, I think.)
And doesn't the legal brief filed by Crytek also explicitly request a trial by jury?
da797b No.14019459
>>13994250
What was the pitch of this game again? It looks like the whole pitch is just
"You're in space. You can do anything. You just have to spend thousands of dollars on tanks and ships and shit to do so. Also, there's no concrete details on how the shit you purchased will actually be implemented or used in the final product."
Assuming this isn't just one large scam which I'm confident it is at this point why should any reasonable person donate to this? What is the final product supposed to be?
aa34ad No.14019494
>>14019459
I agree that it's definitely a scam, but as for your question:
>What is the final product supposed to be?
It's essentially supposed to be The Space Sim To End All Space Sims. A fully-persistent first-person perspective, piloting a ship around and engaging in both melee and ship combat and exploration. Plus shiny graphics, of course.
65f448 No.14019526
>>14019459
>What was the pitch of this game again?
<Help us make a new Wing Commander type game!
<Look, we have a ship flying around in space via controller.
<Also VR is cool and stuff!
If they had stuck with this, they would have finished and released a successful game by now. The never ending stretch goals are what killed this game.
f69f6d No.14019562
>>14019425
>>14019285
Jesus fuck, anons. Americans have a God-give right to a jury of their peers. If you don't know that, how else you gonna convince a judge to drop a traffic ticket by threatening to waste his time with a jury?
e4f052 No.14019634
>>14019562
Just because they have a right doesn't mean everyone exercises that right, anon.
0415e4 No.14020971
>>14004284
Your ability to read social cues is astounding anon. /s (just to make it obvious)
798fb2 No.14021113
I've been fantasising about rogue SC fans barging into Crytek HQ dressed up as furry Creepers from Minecraft and blowing themselves up as an act of vengeance for the end of their dream.
cc0489 No.14021472
>>14021113
>implying it won't be fursuits blowing up Crytek.
e0a11c No.14021554
>>13995654
Look upon this creature that once deserved to be called a man, like you and I! His mind ravaged by the world around him, eaten away by those who see him as nothing more than energy to be used for the furthering of their own nefarious goals! Watch as his mind tries to twist and bend around he simplest and most juvenile of amateur satire, unsure of reality, but unaffected by other symptoms of modern brain illness! This is he Mind of a husk, the husk envisioned by the powers that be, who wish we all were doomed to the same fate as poor 37d6f7! Look upon him, and weep, o crowd, for he was not vigilant enough for these troubling times!
9aa8d3 No.14022202
>>14018133
We're debating semantics here, but that's not technically true. It's called ALPHA 3.0, which is equivalent to 0.3.0.
24fd76 No.14022398
>>14017867
Why would you pay more money for the same .jpg?
17cc0b No.14022426
>>14022398
share them with his wife's son
926fe3 No.14022512
Just an FYI. They released the minimum requirements for Squadron 42. The goyim will be pleased!
17cc0b No.14022542
>>14022512
my 4 year old ps4 can run games with better graphics and higher fps than any pc can run star citizen.pc mustard race indeed.
a3ac91 No.14022593
>>13995942
>You're basically donating to a bunch of people and it's up to them if they'll bother to give you what they promised.
you're paying in advance for a product. they can call it a donation all they like but you're still giving them money for a product.
d89b95 No.14022692
>>14022512
>2GB VRAM minimum, 4GB recommended
>16GB RAM
What kind of avant garde bloat is this?
18eb25 No.14022702
>>14022692
It comes with a built in bitcoin miner.
17cc0b No.14022718
>>14022702
this.
but how are they profiting from this if it's an offline single player game
:thinking:
0ffba1 No.14022734
>>14022512
>16gb ram
>2gb video ram
>SSD strongly recommended
1798f8 No.14022772
>>14022512
Roberts got sued for an engine that can't do mmo space sims right and is asking for ridiculous specs to even run it at minimum while the netcode is still hot garbage and can't fit more than 20 players at best, let that sink in
a3fa00 No.14022792
>>13995138
This is why jew thrive in the usa
d89b95 No.14022848
>>14022702
But that would require more than 4GB of VRAM unless they're mining Bitcoin cash or some other GPU coin with a small blockchain.
Knowing CIG though they'll probably have implemented a barely functioning regular BTC miner on top of their CPU hogging Cryengine hacks for the purpose of revitalizing the semiconductor industry.
a84184 No.14022856
>>14017673
>Recorded September 29, 1996.
Looking at this 21 years later, they might have had a point there.
997baf No.14022868
>>14019526
I don't usually pre order. But if they made a real Wing Commander/Starlancer kind of game instead of WoW in space I'd throw €70 at it.
b428e5 No.14022876
Wing Commander was cool. You fought space cats in space.
fd6e90 No.14022901
>>14022868
>I don't usually pre order
>But if Chris Roberts makes a real Wing Commander/Starlancer I'd throw €70 at it.
fucking killyourself.
17cc0b No.14022931
>>14022868
Look up squadron42 they got mark hamill and it looks much better than scam citizen
cd9620 No.14022948
>>14022512
What a poorly optimized, badly coded pile of shit.
997baf No.14023391
>>14022901
No need. Only Japs still make games that are completely offline without GaaS.
81f7dd No.14023529
>>14019526
>The never ending stretch goals are what killed this game.
Chris Roberts did the same with Freelancer - blew out the scope of the project and it had to have an intervention by the publisher to save it. But there's no publisher this time, and no saving it.
753794 No.14023561
>>14022512
>16gb of ram is minimum requirement
I bet 90% people can't run this shit
93a0cc No.14023594
81f7dd No.14023618
Also lol: they had to cancel today's holiday livestream they were hyping with that mark hamill trailer and IGN promotion because it's too broken to even demo. They'll try again tomorrow.
How do you fuck up so bad that something you planned for for months is in a completely undemoable state at the scheduled time? The demo version should have been frozen weeks ago. I bet they have no branches in their version control, it's just one huge main branch with no code review and "please don't break main today, there's a demo" company emails like a shitty indie studio.
38eb64 No.14023692
>>14022848
"The Intel Optane SS 900P Series is the industry-leading drive to experience smooth gaming with Star Citizen"
How can they say this when the fucking game hasn't even left the alpha stage after 5 years of production?
18eb25 No.14023721
>>14023618
This is Baghdad Bob tier.
926fe3 No.14023738
>>14023692
Anon, if you actually gave a single shit about the future of gaming you would have already bought a supercomputer to future proof and enjoy Star Citizen in silky smooth 24 fps.
a4e8de No.14023743
>>14022512
None of this makes any sense. No way a 750 would run this shit game at a stable FPS. On top of that they list 16gb of SYSTEM memory and only fucking 4 for Video? New games almost need 6-8 gigs.
>SSD
>mfw
926fe3 No.14023766
>>14023743
God knows what spaghetti code they shat out over the years. Like that other anon said, their coding is so shoddy a demo presentation, likely a highly scripted vertical slice they announced months in advanced had to be postponed because they game kept shitting itself. And this is after 100+ million dollars of investment and five years of development.
c667ff No.14023796
>>14009970
>>14009984
>>14010041
It's like the guy is smearing shit on his face to spite people
926fe3 No.14023850
>>14023796
Cult behavior. We'll witness them drinking the Kool-Aid, in the literal sense, once they realize the project is dead.
18eb25 No.14023900
>>14023796
More like spending money to pretend to one day get the chance to smear shit on his face.
77b527 No.14026492
Just replace the nigs and mulattos with obese goons who already look like bloated corpses
>>14017867
How many whales do they have remaining anyway? They had clans pledging upwards of 20k USD bail on them and demand refunds by now.
0360e6 No.14026569
>>14010368
>How far can they go?
Into bankruptcy, I hope.
d89b95 No.14026606
>>14026492
A while back /r/starcitizen_refunds estimated CIG's primary source of dosh to be around 4000 accounts with regular investments, although an increase in refunds exceeding $5k and the existence of extremely dedicated whales with multiple $18k complenionist packages spread across sock accounts puts the number closer to 2000.
I'd give a source but can't find the page for some reason.
ff6dbc No.14026651
>>14026606
The reality is that Star Citizen is incredibly niche. This is not Uncharted or GTA.
926fe3 No.14026678
>>14026651
I try to imagine what the game could have looked like if someone more competent had been at the helm, someone that had prioritized performance and scalability over graphical fidelity, someone who, instead of pushing for everything at once made the sane choice of developing each part of the game sequentially.
I mean, if a non-retard was in charge first they would have made Squadron 42 as a testbed for the gameplay, likely released some multiplayer expansion for it to test the netcode, and only afterwards tackled Star Citizen. This will be Freelancer all over again.
f21069 No.14028556
437ae6 No.14028606
>>14028556
Who needs 2 watches?
087331 No.14028643
>>14026593
I'd believe it, if only because we've seen this exact scenario play out before. Bioshock Infinite cost 100 million to make and took years to be released in an unfinished, half-assed state because Ken Levine is a psychotic retard who kept scrapping projects and ideas and then making promises he couldn't keep.. Kind of like the exact shit that Chris Roberts has been doing for a few years now. This isn't some crazy conspiracy theory or a "my dad works for Nintendo story", this is a basic description of a very common problem that has happened countless times before with far less ambitious projects run by untalented, unprepared teams being represented by some loud-mouthed fucker who promised everyone a game no one could ever possibly make.
d26530 No.14028648
>>14028606
One is a Smart watch. If you know what i mean.
cc0489 No.14028651
>>14028648
Oy you cheeky cunt!
73f0fc No.14028655
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>>14028606
Reminded me of this clip starting at 0:48
Can't embed time links
a6b115 No.14028854
I'm surprised nobody has made a thread to make fun of their "holiday special" currently live on twitch.
926fe3 No.14028882
>>14028854
Did they finally manage to make it run?
18eb25 No.14028887
>>14028854
Unless it's Chris being haunted the ghosts of vidya's past, present, and disappointments yet to be I don't care.
a6b115 No.14028889
>>14028882
He flies around while mark hamil talks to him. Absolutely no gameplay has occured except for extremely slow flying.
f21069 No.14028898
>>14028889
There was a dog fighting portion maybe you missed it.
926fe3 No.14028899
>>14028889
>He flies around while mark hamil talks to him
Poor Mark. The guy can't catch a break.
>Absolutely no gameplay has occured except for extremely slow flying.
That's about all the engine can handle without shitting itself and dropping into single digit fps.
a6b115 No.14028902
>>14028898
Yeah I missed it
0afcf8 No.14028904
>>14028889
So Space Engine with more space ship models?
a6b115 No.14028926
>>14028904
He got out and is walking around some abandoned base. Walked through total nothing for about two minutes and now he's up at a terminal pressing the use key to bring it online. 2 More to go!
926fe3 No.14028954
>>14028926
This is the same autistic tard that thought it was fun and games to make loading cargo into your ship a real time process (that can also be done by hand). Nothing is more entertaining than watching a few dozen crates slowly being loaded in your ship, and watching it happen for the hundredth time.
a6b115 No.14028960
FPS shooting now. Really bad
a6b115 No.14028982
>They're selling ships now
2f2e8a No.14028987
>>14028983
Meant to post this.
f21069 No.14029044
001217 No.14037362
>>14017867
>tumblr goes nova
e1f23e No.14037440
>>14028606
>2 watches
Because he is signalling to his fellow liberator.
fd6e90 No.14038675
>>14017737
>EA and Activision have investors and are in no way self funded
and so is CIG …
That's why you define a game being independant or triple A on the amount of money spent on marketing rather than developping the game itself.
CIG have 2 or 3 studio, organize *con, etc… they are as independant as ubisoft ACTIVISION-blizzard, EA etc…
calling CIG independant just because they are younger is as retarded as saying:
< "EA is just and old indepedant publisher"
There is no tripple A pubisher who just suddently spawn with millions of funds before even making their 1st game and … oh wait ? i guess CIG is a 1st
6bb029 No.14039908
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The Squadron 42 demo looks nice… if it ever releases and isn't staged.
Tough it bugs me that pilots take the job of marines and go fighting on ground.
1ee59c No.14041037
>>14017329
I like this idea.