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File: 21fd51c560cf36c⋯.jpg (466.43 KB, 550x850, 11:17, Margaret.jpg)

File: f5617107bea0268⋯.jpg (44.19 KB, 640x387, 640:387, Bonetail.jpg)

File: 378aa60dc199400⋯.jpg (135.5 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Terra - Lingering Will.jpg)

e468c1 No.13991082

Some devs include optional or secret boss battles that are reserved only for expert players.

Some of the ones I managed to beat are:

>Margaret [Persona 4]

>Bonetail [Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door]

>"Terra" [Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix]

Figured I create a thread where anons can post the difficult, optional boss battles they managed to beat.

542939 No.13991105

File: ae04cbf21125d5d⋯.png (364.41 KB, 554x611, 554:611, ClipboardImage.png)

>The battle should not be entered without a Costly Punch Materia, which will deal a maximum of 99,999 damage

>Minerva's HP and MP are hidden due to being so high.

I beat her on Hard mode.


6c2705 No.13991215

File: dad797bee3ad936⋯.png (276.03 KB, 732x896, 183:224, 7B2814FF-62C7-468F-92BF-B0….png)

File: 8f0e89abea09bd0⋯.png (49.57 KB, 350x172, 175:86, B5B18911-3869-4105-8DA1-D9….png)

File: e587dd9b22ef0e9⋯.jpeg (63.8 KB, 800x400, 2:1, DB09D00E-3B6A-4CCB-9B2F-B….jpeg)

>>13991082

I liked Elizabeth’s fight more than Margaret’s

Sephiroth was just a bit more memorable to me than the one you posted because I never played Final Mix

The last one technically counts, if only you couldn’t just drown him in summons


e6392c No.13991239

File: bd5f4c70b9cface⋯.png (324.44 KB, 582x635, 582:635, Der_Richter.png)

This guy


6e50b5 No.13991402

Bonetail was optionnal?… I… never knew that.


58cd6a No.13991416

Jin Hayabusa in Nioh.


36632a No.13991427

File: 484b9b9dd8c3943⋯.png (3.38 KB, 187x117, 187:117, Noise_96.png)

Best game on NDS, and infuriated me for about a week.


438eee No.13991440

File: 3a9bf7ee69a1ee0⋯.png (84.17 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

The original motherfucker. You literally can't beat him without tricks.

>retardedly rare paralysis item

>invulnerable to pretty much everything except Ultima/KoTR

>you can't use two of your party members unless you work around it


1f9f62 No.13993325

File: dafb60f545c6fd7⋯.png (115.96 KB, 289x400, 289:400, BlackRabiteArt.png)

Seiken Densetsu 3 - Black Rabite. I think only two characters out of 6 can reach it, and even then he's hard to find and even harder to kill.


753001 No.13993336

File: 6d6b3bf06052e62⋯.jpg (258.39 KB, 600x429, 200:143, 4f63cc498e367eaf4ef4e5b390….jpg)

>>13991082

>tfw only time I beat bonetail was with danger mario on turn 1

Is it wrong to beat him with that strat?


88bed2 No.13993376

I've always thought this was a dumb concept the way that it's executed in most RPGs. And then your "reward" is usually some piece of gear that has no purpose–you've already beaten the greatest challenge the game has to offer.

No, the toughest, baddest boss in the game should be the final challenge. The best thing to do with an optional boss is to make it only appear at the very end of the game if special conditions are met.


8e7af6 No.13993377

The Ancient fucking Dragon from Dark Souls 2. Surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet really.


88bed2 No.13993392

>>13991440

>retardedly rare paralysis item

Hades summon does the same thing.


1dff54 No.13993424

File: 8c114ead763ca33⋯.jpg (92.12 KB, 1017x786, 339:262, Kirby Zero.jpg)

>>13993336

Nope. Running Danger Mario is already, well, dangerous as one slip can mean instant death.

>>13993376

I'm gonna have to agree and Bonetail is an excellent example of that since he gives a badge that does 50% of the damage you take to the opponent who hits you, but seriously, he was the hardest foe, so what does it matter?

The optional boss should be something tough, perhaps post "final" boss and the reward is a different ending. Kirby is one of the only ones who's done it right.


228272 No.13993433

>>13991215

the dragon boss at the end of the 2nd dlc is tougher than nameless king imo

>>13993377

that guy's super easy though, his moveset is too telegraphed


438eee No.13993453

>>13993392

Only five uses.


cdb404 No.13993502

File: d41472a48c24cee⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 347.2 KB, 456x377, 456:377, EO1 superboss.png)

File: 5e61f48fc26369e⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 23.12 KB, 253x187, 23:17, EO2 superboss.png)

File: 377db811fcf98ae⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 84.8 KB, 254x412, 127:206, EO3 superboss.png)

File: c496f25a064af2d⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 322.22 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, EO4 superboss.jpg)

File: fbadacf8fa9aa70⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 883.83 KB, 799x478, 799:478, EO5 superboss.png)

The Etrian Odyssey series usually has the ultimate superboss as your final challenge in the game. They reside in the sixth stratums on the very last floor while the regular final bosses are in the fifth stratums.


666fa8 No.13993508

File: 05896b3da164150⋯.png (258.07 KB, 500x700, 5:7, 1467592885393.png)

Ultima weapon in FF8. 20 minutes of just pure stress.


72af11 No.13993547

File: b4bbf7569b4738a⋯.png (639.97 KB, 878x1580, 439:790, Naoki_Kashima_render.png)

>elizabeth

PERSONAFAGS GO HOME


7501b3 No.13993834

>>13993547

>luck based bullshit: the boss

i fought him and won after several tries but there's absolutely nothing you can do that will convince me it isn't a battle of luck.

im not even talking about the "you need to be asleep to dodge his gaea rage" im talking about the fact he can at any point crit you twice because he feels like it and you'll lose, or he can mamudoon/mahamaon your whole party and you're boned. You need to have luck over and over while doing as much damage as possible before your luck runs out.


d9fd2c No.13993844

>>13993834

git gud


7501b3 No.13993849

>>13993844

how to waste dubs and make enemies in one post


5c21af No.13993902

How about the child of Espers in FF12

And yes I mean that fucker Zodiark.


7498d6 No.13993930

File: 436da961e55cd96⋯.jpg (980.67 KB, 1525x2152, 1525:2152, xenoblade-chronicles-x-ja-….jpg)

This entire game.


e780f8 No.13993948

>>13993930

>>13993930

Some of the superbosses in endgame are retarded "cheese it with ether blossom" or have one specific team build to counter the bosses most annoying gimmick.

Still salty about the wandering king.


9c3f58 No.13993961

>>13993834

You're a casual


9c3f58 No.13993964

File: 9c1684298dac123⋯.jpg (71.5 KB, 669x696, 223:232, 0e637455b30d3a5160405aed3b….jpg)

>Thread is called Difficult Optional bosses

>OP starts the thread with Persona 4 picture

>difficult

What did he mean by this?


7498d6 No.13993974

File: f8d9a384ed23e20⋯.jpg (532.44 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Cemu 2017-11-22 16-49-08-7….jpg)

File: f34463c42f98c0e⋯.jpg (968.18 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Cemu 2017-11-26 16-27-21-7….jpg)

File: f290d55cb1810cb⋯.jpg (895.76 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Cemu 2017-11-28 13-56-18-2….jpg)

>>13993948

I never even used ether blossom, or swords at all for that matter.

For me it's was mostly stacking XX slayer and attack augmemts.

On foot it was mostly ghost walker+saber arts spam in infinite overdrive. I guess it isn't much different from ether blossom in principle. But I only fought on foot where it was impossible to go with mech.


c77ef1 No.13994001

>>13991082

I never played Persona 4 in my life. Do I get to marry Margaret if I beat her?


ae34f4 No.13994072

File: 9d380af502f5032⋯.png (339.23 KB, 600x600, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

File: dfd8eb0a8ea3a38⋯.png (27.61 KB, 480x320, 3:2, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 8058e1d814b1807⋯.png (86.9 KB, 210x240, 7:8, ClipboardImage.png)

>Sirus

Baseline he's the hardest boss in the game including stronger variants of other bosses and the requirement to fight him is that you reach 100% of standard cards.

But then he has V2, V3 and Σ versions of the boss which all majorly spike up.

Barriers that not only block your attacks but are placed to kill the lock quick step mechanic which has been extremely strong on everything else in the series. None of his attacks are directly from him so he has no counter point, lore wise he also revived the previous games secret boss and powered him up to test to see if you'd be any fun to fight.

Only issue with the fight is they missed an obvious exploit with the fight that allows you to completely gimp him.

>Enuo

FF5 isn't too hard when you've busted it's job mechanics open so in the re-release of 5 on GBA they added a boss who's made to take it, just a fun boss hands down, he hits hard has a lot of health to cope with the Double Flares/Holy's with +50% boosts from duel bells + 4 strikes from the 2 strongest weapons each, being slowed vs your party haste and other various bullshits you've acquired over the game.

Just fun to have something was made with all these degenerate combos in mind that would otherwise have trashed everything else in the game.

Shame the classes he unlocks for beating isn't actually any good, I think it's Necromancer and it's got spells stronger then flare/holy and shit but you've just beat the toughest guy in the game .

>Omega Shenron

So normally this game a shitter when it comes to the AI, but in the collectors edition of the game, in the bonus Dragon Arena where you level up to acquire bonus stats for characters, they added an extra fight with this guy if you beat every other fight in the arena, for this fight he's level 140 giving him max in every stat, so he pays half cost for all skills with max energy as his baseline makes punishing anything he does difficult or based on hard exploiting of the AI till he runs out of steam.

One issue is the first time I thought him so I know this can happen, with little energy that the vanish attack can't be used the AI activated hyper mode, grabbed him and then proceeded to infinite him (Hyper mode drains energy till you run out and are in stun, but if you're in hit stun you can't leave it so he was stuck in my infinite without any energy or hope to escape) till he only had a small chuck of HP left, let him down and then did super for game.

Shout out to the guy who did this fight as a Level 1 Trunks though since he'd be doing pot shots of around 20 damage to someone with 7000 while he only had 3000 and gets combo'd for 1500+


ae34f4 No.13994075

>>13994072

Fought him*


58cd6a No.13994081

>>13993834

He's almost entirely pattern-based. It's a matter of finding his logic and then enduring until he falls.


ae34f4 No.13994087

>>13994081

Or you can do the trick where you drain through his magic demons mana making him waste 2 press turns a turn while you pick off at Demifiend, though tbh going through the effort of getting to him to cheese the fight like that is pretty wack, unless you really want that shit ring that's kind of good early game.


bea0dc No.13994116

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


a4d859 No.13994122

File: ab59fcf2dc225a2⋯.png (111.05 KB, 500x700, 5:7, dangerous.png)

>>13993424

life shrooms exist, which means that running danger mario or peril mario doesn't have to be very dangerous.


92bdf6 No.13994163

File: e89176a19b33738⋯.jpg (692.17 KB, 1280x1024, 5:4, 1cd7e45a3a2ed7102e5b3fc5de….jpg)

Still one of the hardest fighting game bosses.

>One of the lowest HP pools in the game. Her cloth for clothing is a good representation of how squishy she is.

>She has nearly infinite meter as it regenerates so fast she can constantly use supers.

>Doesn't actually move. Only teleports and floats off the ground. All her attacks are projectile based too. Some of them being lows and overhead but it's not easy to tell which she'll throw at you so you're forced to stay off the ground if you want to live.

>Can't be combo'd for long as she'll just burst out of it. Which also recharges very fast.

>Can reverse your controls, poison, and slow you down all at the same time.

>Time her out? Can't do that as she'll constantly encase herself in a crystal that constantly regenerates herself even faster. And yes, she's always regenerating even outside said crystal.

>Full screen LV3 super that is identical to the start-up of her crystal super. Expect this to take 70% of your health.

Trying to fight her normally is suicide as it's so hard to get close. Try to build up meter and unleash a very powerful attack when you think she's open. Some characters can OHKO her this way. The easiest way to beat her is to use Mirror arcana and blast her with her own super.

>>13991215

KH2 Seph is a joke while KH1 Seph is pretty tough. There's also KH1:FM Xemnas.

>>13991239

Is he really that tough? It's mostly a long ass battle of endurance in a game where the "battle of attrition" strategy works 90% of the time as the game gives you so many resources to heal your team's HP or MP. I found most bosses in post game Dungeon Travelers 2 tougher than many of the bosses in this thread.

>>13993377

Outside of absurd hitboxes, he's pretty easy. Once you figure out how big his hitboxes are he's not even a threat.


ed0d81 No.13994560

>>13993376

I do like when games give you a second ending for beating an optional challenge boss. Like Paz in Peace Walker.


72af11 No.13994852

>>13993834

Confirmed for not using the resist phys and dark skills.

Putting null sleep on everyone who participates and endure on backup drastically increases the chances that you won't get fucked over by Gaea Rage.

I'll grant you that the fight is pretty luck based and if it was better designed would let endure work multiple times per encounter if you heal to full. Also null death not triggering Gaea Rage.

Other than that, hoping for buffs via Cu Chulainn's taunt and spamming Ragnarok gets the job done pretty well if you remember to kill both allies at the same time.


9a8619 No.13994859

File: e6763876ec5e166⋯.png (267.82 KB, 640x360, 16:9, f5cfa441d989de6bf5e982a419….png)

>>13991082

I don't remember most, but I do remember loving that there were final boss battles in the final fantasy games that were actually harder than the regular last boss. Like the ultima weapons in ff7. Those were some insane fights. I remember being scared shitless by the desert ultima. Felt like a real victory when I bet that one.


eda208 No.13994936

File: 290b3ada46dc1fc⋯.png (140.63 KB, 298x419, 298:419, Father Rodin.png)

>>13991082

>ctrl + F

>no Father Rodin

Come on /v/, step it up.


72af11 No.13994946

>>13994852

Scratch that. Endure working again after a full heal would be broken because there would be no consequence for Gaea Rage.

A better solution is to only let it restore when the character retreats.


a13159 No.13994989

File: d90adeffcfd57ca⋯.jpg (277.39 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, tsukiyama.jpg)

File: 7c7feb09cd3966e⋯.jpg (375.85 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, media king.jpg)

I found these assholes harder than the two Amon fights in 0. Jo/So Amon at least have some stuff you can exploit, these two just dodge everything and hit you from behind all the time on top of having super armour on pretty much all their attacks after you damage them enough.


e071f2 No.13995048

>>13994859

Ultima Weapon was one of the weapons. The desert one was Ruby Weapon.


9a8619 No.13995055

File: b6d4e9fe8bad069⋯.png (7.97 KB, 231x200, 231:200, 1463534378412.png)

>>13995048

Oh, my mistake. All I remember is when I was a kid and played it he scared the shit out of me. I was afraid he was going to drag me into the desert like a tremor and eat me. I remember flying above him and just watching the fucker there, nervous as fuck.


cf4ba5 No.13996069

>>13993433

I don't get the Midir hype. Great boss, lore, OST and all that, sure, but not this ass pain I was told to expect. I beat him probably five tries max with the Ariandel axe.


5f13ab No.13996113

>>13994989

The Amon fight in Yakuza 4 was probably the most fun I had in a secret boss fight. A boss rush that challenges your mastery of all four characters. The only one that felt unfair was the Amon that fights Tanimura, he just spams bullets from his machine gun and is a bitch to hit. Later I just cheesed him by unlocking the bulletproof armor. Still had fun with Akiyama, Saejima, and Kiryu’s fights.


9c90cb No.13996647

Usually the optional bosses are more fun, but that god damn final optional boss in Borderlands wasn't. He's not meant to be soloed, but with the right level and gear it ought to be possible. Didn't succeed though.


6d8344 No.13996702

File: b8a2a5ceaceb43c⋯.jpg (145.95 KB, 800x1104, 50:69, Gabriel_Celesta.jpg)

oh hey nice JRPG party you got going on there


16afee No.13996717

File: 4bf7ce82948d1b4⋯.jpg (20.37 KB, 494x349, 494:349, chill jesus.jpg)

>The 'Secret Boss' is actually an alternate version of the final boss only fought on the True Route


4669a4 No.13996732

File: f131fe07ecda720⋯.png (59.63 KB, 240x157, 240:157, Vanguard.PNG)

one shots your tutorial

What do you do?


147a52 No.13996746

>>13993376

You ever play Tales of Vesperia? If you do all the optional shit your reward is the final boss steals all your ultimate gear and merges with them to gain a new form


9db89a No.13996756

File: b2c31a3fdbd3e98⋯.jpg (68.31 KB, 480x533, 480:533, 1 HP.jpg)

>>13993502

>Ur-Child


631048 No.13996790

Chaos Rings 1 has the shopkeeper as the super-boss. The following CR has secret bosses too.


cf3e8c No.13996805

>>13991427

just enjoy the moment, anon.


520afb No.13996864

>>13994163

Can I fight her with my penis?


0b3f26 No.13998507

bass

bass II

bass III

bass IV

bass V

and finally

bass VI


65cce9 No.13998536

File: f2f9bafb9adf659⋯.png (4.86 KB, 160x240, 2:3, ballos cave story.png)

>>13993424

>The optional boss should be something tough, perhaps post "final" boss and the reward is a different ending

>thread is full of JRPGshit

faggots

all of you


29dded No.13998581

File: 74cb78ecc4f83cb⋯.jpg (73.98 KB, 224x400, 14:25, Omega_Zero_(ZX).jpg)

One of my favorite boss fights of all time. Especially on hard mode.


e98b4f No.13998586

File: 756bbd7695c2747⋯.png (71.33 KB, 1024x896, 8:7, ClipboardImage.png)

This motherfucker is the reason I'm /agdg/ nowadays.


7b445f No.13998588

File: 10af755f5604697⋯.gif (181.96 KB, 287x277, 287:277, Gopnik.gif)

>>13998536

>it's anon's fault that this is a trope most commonly fulfilled in that genre

Seems to me other genres need to catch up.

Bayonetta 2 has that kind of stuff. Bayonetta 1 probably also does and I just haven't seen it yet.

Obviously Cave Story does too, as you show.


65cce9 No.13998594

>>13998581

>Omega Zero

Isn't the reason he's too easy in MMZ3 becasue his moves are slow as shit because of the GBA system limitations? Cause the reason I find the fight hard on MMZX is because he's so fast and his attacks come out lighting fast


29dded No.13998618

>>13998594

I think it had to do with the smaller screen. Since the sprites take up more of the screen, Omega stays off screen much more. So his attacks had to be slow enough that you could actually react to them. One of the many reasons the Zero series could benefit from being remade.


99bf53 No.13998631

File: 9584c3377d96be3⋯.png (107.2 KB, 295x365, 59:73, Baal.png)

I dunno if id call him hard, although I can see why for people who don't play the series. But I've beaten every version Baal in every Disgaea. I think of him more as a checkpoint than anything else since ItemGod's are generally harder than him and I fight them earlier.


acf851 No.13998668

>>13996732

It took me only 10 tries to kill the vanguard.


83d7d9 No.13998676

FF12 has loads these kind of enemies or bosses. Only one that truly seek them out will encounter them.


4669a4 No.14000638

>>13998668

I went on an autistic rampage by playing the tutorial at least 11 or 12 times before I killed him. Then I started again just to make sure it wasn't a fluke


5e5bd9 No.14000759

File: 53e55713a4b056c⋯.jpg (92.03 KB, 959x668, 959:668, DRLjKOyVoAEvZUq.jpg)

>>13998536

>tfw i beat beat ballos on easy mode


12ba1f No.14000776

>>13998631

>But I've beaten every version Baal in every Disgaea.

Even Disgaea D2's? That was the only one that couldn't be beaten by playing smartly and required grind.

Fucking roughly 220 reincarnations at level 9999, I could get from 1 to 9999 in a single map but I still gave up 70/220 in because it was just dull. I'm getting the itch for grindan again though wish I had ps3 around.


d0c514 No.14000819

File: ea71726b18b2c3c⋯.jpg (19.41 KB, 960x422, 480:211, autism increased.jpg)

>>14000759

>tfw I beat Ballos on a 3HP run on the wii version once with just the polar star

There wasn't even an official hard mode or any benefit to doing it, just pure autistic rage until I finally managed to kill him.


5e5bd9 No.14000829

File: f77bdbbf6c7d574⋯.png (314.9 KB, 490x490, 1:1, AAAAAHHH!.png)

>>14000819

I would rather kill myself irl than do that.


4bc9ee No.14000850

>>13991082

Everything in The last remnant.

Fuck that game, but I love it.


ce6483 No.14000886

File: 08a5e4f2aeff6f4⋯.jpg (26.53 KB, 212x277, 212:277, Mogdrogen_Avatar.jpg)

Mogdrogen's a cunt. Also, Ravager in AoM counts too and is fucking ridiculous.


99bf53 No.14000952

>>14000776

Yes even D2's as much of a pain in the ass it was. I assume you're talking about the LoC version since normal Baal if I remember was kind of a pushover. I think I actually beat normal Baal with my runner as a joke.


9febb9 No.14000968

Persona 5's optional boss fight is way harder than the earlier ones. Not only do you have to fight 2 of them, you have to do a certain amount of damage per turn and if they hit a weakness they get a stronger attack.


9febb9 No.14000971

>>14000968

Oh, you also have to kill both on the same turn or they cast recarm and the dead one gets half their life back.


12ba1f No.14001013

>>14000952

Yeah I'm talking about LoC, forgot to mention it.

How's Disgaea 5 btw?


99bf53 No.14001044

>>14001013

It's good, I only did 1 real play through so far. The new assault system is really abuse-able with the right setup. Not a bad entry into the series but felt a little bland in some places. Still one of the better ones though.


38de70 No.14001117

>>13993834

All good super bosses should have some element of luck. There's a hard limit to the challenge you can provide to the player if you adhere to the "no luck" rule. The best superbosses have an element of luck which can be mostly, but not entirely mitigated through careful planning. Tossing a small amount of luck into the equation ensures that the player will never fully know if he's found the optimal strategy or if he needs to improve further. Those who don't improve further might never beat the boss while those who have the drive to constantly try to optimize and improve have the best chance of winning.


38de70 No.14001244

>>14000968

SMT proper >>> Persona 3 >>> Persona 4 > Persona 5.

The lack of restrictions on Margaret and the Twins fights made them trivial. At the very least, they should have had a minimum level requirement of 99 and a way to bypass null/absorb/repel. Perhaps if they used heat riser/-karns, they might have been able to make something interesting out of their "kill both at the same time" mechanic, but just standing on its own, it has been done to death in an infinitely many other JRPGs (even P3 had this mechanic for one boss).


c8abe4 No.14001262

Kalameet lol


e468c1 No.14005214

>>14001244

>The lack of restrictions on Margaret

I personally beat her with self-imposed restrictions on myself. I solo'd her without using items on the hardest difficulty. Just me and my personas vs her and her personas. Winning against her in a fair and square manner.

The battle itself wasn't very difficult once I fused the right personas. It just took me forever to fuse them in the first place. Unlike how easy it is on the Vita's P4 Golden, fusing personas on the PS2 version with the Skills you wanted was very aggravating. I had to become autistic and learn everything about how the PS2's fusion system worked. In the end however, I did manage to beat Margaret with 3 really good personas. A Yoshitsune, a Trumpeter, and a Norn.


d7a54e No.14013736

File: e76d625a35ddc53⋯.jpg (111.89 KB, 600x800, 3:4, demogorgon2.jpg)

>>13991082

Not that difficult, particularly in terms of how I've found him, but the game did manage to be unfair by making fighing him to be the "wrong" choice.

Although he could have been made hard through "soloing", or maybe even by using only 2 or 3 characters instead of 6. Of course, there are other adjusted ways of playing this game that are common convention.

Perhaps GemRB does or will make it possible to play this game in "heart or fury" mode, then that would make this definitely qualify, not to mention be seriously cool.


f8389b No.14013786

>>14013736

Is this fucker supposed to have hyena or mandrill heads?


287750 No.14013877

>>13998618

I remember you. You're the faggot from the Megaman thread. Zero is ok as it is, remakes right now are shit, fuck off.


88bed2 No.14014025

>>14013877

Zero is pretty shit, tbh fam.


d7a54e No.14014140

>>14013786

A baboon or somesuch, but some depictions of him are more expectedly demonic.


a08ca4 No.14027069




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