524797 No.13987871
If you use Heavy Armor and a Shield in ANY game, you're a fucking bitch.
20b9a6 No.13987882
>>13987871
Objectively wrong. Being a tank is manly, especially if you can walk through damage that makes dickass thieves sweat if it comes within 10 meters of them. Knights are the most heroic of all classes as you reject cowardly fleeing tactics and overpowered magic in favour of hard work, steel and tactics.
524797 No.13987902
>>13987882
>mashing a single attack button and the heal button once every few seconds is hard work
567e9e No.13987905
b3020d No.13987908
What's wrong, fuckboy, got your ass kicked in Nioh because you refused to block?
20b9a6 No.13987910
>>13987902
>heal button
Casual detected.
1ab1de No.13987914
>>13987882
My basketball american.
05e42a No.13987922
>>13987902
>heal button
>taking enough damage to need to heal in the first place
the absolute state of dexfags
20b9a6 No.13987924
>>13987914
I'm actually an Auslander
767161 No.13987949
>>13987924
Well, my shitposter then.
224a64 No.13987976
>>13987956
It's good to have a couple Dodge guys and one huge fat fuck so the Dodge guys can run around doing objectives and the huge guy can provide fire support and everything
9ba820 No.13987994
>>13987976
With anarchist you can wear mid armor and be the guy that does it all on overkill difficulty. Then again tanking is impossible on higher difficulties.
5e910f No.13988005
>Heavy Armor is bad
Fuck you dex fags
503876 No.13988030
dexfags are in fact, faggots
224a64 No.13988045
>>13988005
>all those completely flat sections of armor
No wonder they lost the war
a79a42 No.13988048
Luck is best stat. Works 50% of the time, every time.
503876 No.13988053
>>13988048
>luck a stat
>not a skill
c'mon anon
2582a0 No.13988274
>>13987882
>in favour of hard work
>tactics
I wasn't aware that buying the biggest suit of armor available and letting people smack you in the face repeatedly counted as "hard work" or "tactics".
642e7e No.13988304
Do you think Miyazaki doesn't want to make any more soulsborne games because he too, lives in fear of what he's created.
a61464 No.13988309
>>13988274
You gotta lift a lot, bruh, and eat lots of protein. Dexfags are saladfags.
b3020d No.13988320
>>13988304
I could buy it if he had just made dork souls, but he made bloodborne, aka thirty hours of violent dexfag masturbation - the game. He will bear the responsibility.
2582a0 No.13988323
>>13988309
>Dexfags are saladfags.
Sure, keep telling yourself that, tubby.
6f0ef2 No.13988379
>>13988323
>Implying Bruce Lee wasn't the king of STR
He mastered muscles such that he can compress his own body to look less muscular. He just fucked up one day and compressed his heart.
2f79a0 No.13988455
>>13988379
>implying compressing your heart muscles isn't the pinnacle of muscle compression philosophy
He didn't properly WACHAA! beforehand, that's all.
5e910f No.13988460
>>13988285
Tiger stronk. Remove bolsheviks, remove allies.
cab681 No.13988479
>>13988460
hello old friend
d0ab5f No.13988515
>>13988379
do you think he can compress my files on my computer?
752114 No.13988530
>>13987871
>not wearing Heavy Armor, using a Shield, and dodging everything, anyway
Look at this fag.
cbc088 No.13988542
>>13988530
>mfw Fencer is basically Armored Core in EDF5
1ab1de No.13988569
>>13988530
>>13988542
>EDF5 Fencer
>Greater armor, firepower and maneuverability than all other classes
The ayys fucked with the wrong fucking planet
4df0ec No.13988583
>>13988569
>>Greater armor, firepower and maneuverability than all other classes
1ab1de No.13988588
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13988583
The Fencer is now king.
4df0ec No.13988634
>>13988588
Well, the king's gonna get cucked out of his crown
https://youtu.be/4_R0_nL5zDE?t=127
752114 No.13988670
>>13988634
>>13988583
Air Raider has barely any power, defense, or maneuverability on his own. He just borrows it from something else or orders someone else, who does have firepower, around.
9ce324 No.13988689
>>13987902
Being a tank is all about being trunk of the body, you gotta moove and think well or else the other members of the body won't do their work correctly. If you make one mistake about your aggros or your potitioning, the other members of your team will suffer greatly.
Now a dexfag doesn't have to worry about all that
>Muh dps, muh automatic dodge, muh mekanix
4df0ec No.13988707
>>13988670
>grenade launchers
>bombs
>charges
>wireguns
>youcan'ttouchthis.jpeg
>muh fliers
>artillery
>haven't even mentioned mechs
It's alright anon, you have a role as well. The giant ants need something to chew on.
1ab1de No.13988709
>>13988634
<Air Raider
>Can call people to bomb stuff for him
>Can ride vehicles
>Actual guns are kinda shitty
>If he loses his ride he's pretty much fucked
>Has qt idol decoys
<Fencer
>Cool as fuck armor, can take a beating and still come out on top
>A specialist in both close and long range combat
>Two miniguns at the same time
>Carries tank cannons around just because he can
>Still fast as fuck
752114 No.13988738
>>13988707
The actual weapons he carries pale in power to the fencer's, air bombings and artillery strikes aren't his power, and vehicles are power he just borrows, which he isn't necessarily going to be the one to use, anyway. Claiming the air raider has the most power is like saying a squad lead is strong because one of his men can lift 500 pounds. He's not strong, he just orders someone else's strength around.
469a1f No.13988740
>>13988053
you son of a bitch
48e92f No.13988752
>choosing between dodging or tanking
casuuls, get on my level scrub
4df0ec No.13988767
>>13988738
Great argument there buddy. How about I give it a try? Fencer doesn't have any power since he's borrowing it from the weapons he uses. Retarded, huh? AR can actually support his team and will rock your ass all week long and twice on sunday. And despite having been nerfed time and again limpets do more than 2/3rds of what you're packing. For that 1/3rd? Drop a fucking tank. :^)
8b1cee No.13988772
>>13987871
I know that feeling OP.
>First run of Dark Souls
>Ran a dex build
>Went full weeb-souls with ninja outfit and a katana
>like you said Dodge or Die
>Incredible love for the game and recognition of those who beat it
>Second run
>Strength and most importantly poise
>Fucking easy mode
>This is what most people do
Isn't even the same game to me when you play it like that.
ecd445 No.13988778
>>13988738
The fencer is a knight and the air raider is a wizard. The knight is constsntly on the battle field taking attention off the wizard. When left alone, the wizards will swiftly change the tides of battle with elements he borrows from the cosmos. An air raider can be killed by a single red ant. And a fencer can have trouble taking out an heavy armored teleporter while an air raider can just look at it and let an air raid destroy it while he mows downs enemies with his mech.
Both are important to stopping the alien menace.
503876 No.13988788
Are they still calling the enemies in EDF5 immigrants?
752114 No.13988791
>>13988767
Air Raider is just the fucking radio guy, dude. He just makes calls that other people fulfill. By your logic, the leader of EDF is the most powerful, armored, maneuverable person on Earth.
4df0ec No.13988802
>>13988791
Sounds like sour grapes to me m80. And yeah, the guy sitting on all those bombers and cruise missiles not to mention all of the EDF forces including all the fencers seems pretty powerful to me.
d3a671 No.13988806
>>13987871
Middle ground is best because you have the most options. Medium armor with a regular shield is the superior path since you get to choose between dodging, blocking, and tanking based on what the situation presents which makes the combat more interesting. And since you're mediocre at all three, it also makes it so you can't steamroll certain parts, like if there's a slow enemy that would be trivial to dodge if you had light equipment it wouldn't be so trivial for you and therefore more fun.
752114 No.13988813
>>13988778
Nah, the AR is the summoner, except, instead of learning the intricacies of weaving the fabric of the planes to bring items and beings to him, he was given a few pokeballs by his boss, and he just tosses them out when needed.
>>13988802
That's authority, not strength. You're claiming the AR is strong, when, in reality, he's just capable of talking to people who are strong.
20eba7 No.13988815
>>13988802
That tank is getting cucked by the plane
48e92f No.13988818
>>13988815
the tank has its "cannon" right between her tits anon
48e92f No.13988820
>>13988818
nvm im retarded
cf5010 No.13988821
>faggots going about dodges and shields
>not being the caster/archer ranged master race and nuking everything before it even reaches you
Hah brainlets
5499ef No.13988830
>having no shiny armor
>having no shield
This thread reeks foul stench of plebs and dagger-wielding backstabbing thieves.
bd0bb0 No.13988838
>>13988821
>being an intfag
You're worse than the weebs.
4df0ec No.13988895
>>13988813
Big talk from someone outclassed by a little girl in every way
eb56a5 No.13988924
>>13988821
I never understood how magic is related to int, it's all about "u just gut 2 beleeb xD". Daily reminder that wizardfags are just low int cucks that want to live "le smart lad xD" fantasy.
752114 No.13988931
>>13988924
Wizards are just scientists by another name. They spend decades studying how the laws of the universe work in order to manipulate them. You're thinking of sorcerers.
05e42a No.13988934
>>13988924
Thats miracles
Magic usually has mechanics and knowledge required. If it didn't you wouldn't have spell books.
d8233b No.13988950
Any love for dodge tanks or ranged tanks?
I hate seeing the stereotype of a tank just being "You have to wear super heavy armor and use a sword or you're going to suck."
I've made characters in TTG's that surpass tanks despite looking like the complete opposite.
One of them is a nimble guy who carries two short swords, very light leather concealing very light plate and chainmail designed to be flexible for complicated moves. He dances, dodges, dips, dives, and leaps in crowds and barely gets cut while dishing and distracting while the rest of the party cleans shop, though he can be a real damage dealer when the times come.
Then then I had a couple ranged tanks. One of them a foul-tempered lycan who carried a shotgun and made the most vile taunts while blasting away, punching/throwing people who came too close, all while maneuvering around with a heavy-chain grappling hook which he'd sometime use to pull people in for a point-blank blast.
The second ranged tank was a minotaur with a great-shield and a shotgun (Wow sooo creative) with a wicked bayonet at the end of it. He was much the same except he got people's attention in different ways, would bash and stab people when they got in too close only to blast them away as soon as they were stuck in a grim form of intimidation.
Anyone else got unorthodox builds?
eb56a5 No.13988959
>>13988950
I bet you think giving an infantry man an artillery cannon to use as a rifle is a legit good idea.
cf5010 No.13988973
>>13988924
Spoken like a true baboon that would piss himself at the idea of memorizing a single page of a grimoire
752114 No.13988981
>>13988950
Being a tank is specifically about taking damage, not dealing it. Your first character couldn't be considered a tank, as he was all about avoiding damage. He sounds more like a glass cannon. And, considering the EDF discussion and people posting military tanks, there's already been people posting "ranged" tanks.
00c0f1 No.13988988
The eternal debate:
>random chance to completely negate all damage done
or
>guaranteed chance to decrease all damage done to potentially minuscule amounts
Many varied opinions here, but there is only one that is objectively correct:
>armor when playing against the computer is best since you can always count on RNGsus raping you when you least expect it so armor/tanking lets you play it safe
>dodge when playing against other players is best and fucking hilarious as the DPSoyboys cry about "muh random chance is unfair/toxic/uncompetitive/[insert excuse here] because I minmaxed like a faggot and had all of my damage stopped by some guy who built dodge/evasion"
ffca1c No.13989001
>>13988005
>>13988045
It was actually a piece of shit because it had a totally different engine and parts than Pz. IVs, and the engine was underpowered as fuck, surface contact was fucking terrible so it would get stuck constantly (and good luck finding vehicles which can move a stuck Tiger on short notice), when the parts broke down (which they frequently did) they were difficult to replace. Everything outside of actually shooting at tanks and getting shot by them, the Tiger was awful at. Germany also could have manufactured around 3 StuGs for every Tiger.
48e92f No.13989004
bb4dd1 No.13989024
>>13988689
>automatic dodge,
>other members of the body
Does OP look like fucking MMO shit to you?
889f92 No.13989038
>>13988772
>ban knives
>fuck you i'll make a monument out of them
>statue is holding out hands as if to say "arrest me"
That bloodly brilliant bong who made this needs an award.
05e42a No.13989053
>>13989038
Its government funded like the Murdercube.
b45347 No.13989085
>having to choose between dodging or tanking
What about parrying then?
bb4dd1 No.13989088
>>13988320
You can use the shield to completely block the mindflayer's/winter lantern's eye contact frenzy effect.
>>13988821
>Brainlet
Go back to cuckchan.
752114 No.13989103
>>13989085
What the fuck do you do when it's an attack you can't parry, huh?
bd0bb0 No.13989112
>>13989103
Hit him before he hits you.
889f92 No.13989116
>>13988802
back in the 50's there'd be no anime eyes to soften that image and it'd be a shocking commentary on fetishism of industrialization and war done in dark paints on a grim backdrop with exceedingly detailed machine parts made to look like a combination of flesh and blood making it hard to figure out where the tank, woman or plane begins and ends, with the positioning being lewd but showing no penetration. You know, classy.
Instead people just jack off to this shit.
I've actually seen this autistical artist's stuff before so it really isn't shocking, but coming back to this shit when you don't have a mindless boner really makes you think about how far we've gone under the bar.
Imagine this, if our generation went this far down the rabbit hole, some communities actively commission this shit, what the hell are our kids going to be like? Most of us had access to the net during the first upshot of the porn epidemic as young as 11 in my case when there wasn't even that much, these kids are going to walk into our world and some will see this even younger.
They're going to have it worse then us. They'll learn no self control, no disgust, no shame. No work ethic, no patience, nothing that makes you successful.
Sometimes you just see something and sit back and realize "something fucked up along the way to get to this point."
959dab No.13989125
>>13988821
>being a squishyfag
e44f69 No.13989143
>>13989116
>They're going to have it worse then us. They'll learn no self control, no disgust, no shame. No work ethic, no patience, nothing that makes you successful.
Good.
You almost sound like some kind of normalfag.
cf5010 No.13989151
>>13989116
Savor this bitter taste, lad.
You have tasted the first real redpill of your life it only gets worse from here on
889f92 No.13989184
>>13988821
>not tanking every shot at minimal or no damage without flinching, and just standing an inch away from your opponent's face, as if daring them to run and either smashing them in one shot then and there or having them run like a scared mouse and chasing them until they've uselessly exhausted all resources and THEN killing them after cornering them with no escape
Get on my level, weakling.
That's actually how we used to hunt prey back in the tribal days, humans have an assload of endurance and can walk and track for days, even with 100 pounds or more of armor or equipment on.
If we wanted and if we were at peak health from hunting, we could literally kill big game animals by chasing and scaring them to death without weapons simply because we can always outdo them on endurance.
Armor like this guy is not actually as impractical as it seems, aside from the ornament shoulder pads and overly large tasset which would prevent some movement, it could be used in battle. The design of those pieces is somewhat more ornamental but even that sort of armor is not as restrictive as you would think.
48e92f No.13989186
>>13989116
>self control
>shame
>work ethic
slave morality
>disgust
thier disgust will be genuine when it exists, like us and NTR
>patience
dosnt exist in the first place as far as I can tell, its just a meme
889f92 No.13989194
>>13989186
if you practice solipsism and think that everything's just dancing shadows on a cave wall i'd understand why you'd think that.
In any case, you're retarded. People without self control, shame, or work ethic are fucking pic related.
cf5010 No.13989203
>>13989184
Or you could just shoot them in the face and not spend 3 days hungry chasing a pig through the woods like a fucking idiot
889f92 No.13989215
>>13989203
I guess you casters would qualify as less then human.
48e92f No.13989233
>>13989194
SJW are the pinnacle of the shame, they get shamed into every single one of their opinions by a perceived crowd, that is actually very small
the ultimate slaves
4df0ec No.13989243
>>13989143
No shit. Dumb nigger thinks seeing ratbat is an accomplishment.
c47760 No.13989250
>>13987882
>Being a tank is manly
>Knights are the most heroic of all classes as you reject cowardly fleeing tactics and overpowered magic in favour of hard work, steel and tactics.
My man!
9ce324 No.13989267
48e92f No.13989283
>>13989267
automatic dodging isnt dodgeing its AC
752114 No.13989526
>>13989283
AC is attacks deflecting off armor, not the character dodging them.
fa4bdb No.13989559
>>13987871
>shielding in Smash Brothers
>any time, any reason
Real players just don’t get hit.
fa4bdb No.13989570
>>13989116
It’s called jews, and they have to be exterminated.
48e92f No.13989608
>>13989584
you dont even have to go as shit as 3.finder, you add dex to ac as a base without a feat
752114 No.13989643
>>13989584
>>13989608
Some rpgs are stupid and decided to modify a mechanic meant for armor to tie into dexterity, because they're lazy. That doesn't mean that AC still doesn't stand for Armor Class and was created to represent how tough it is to get through that armor.
20eba7 No.13989644
>>13989608
I don't have a pdf of the rules on me
8a317c No.13989683
>>13989001
It had better offroad capabilities than most tanks during the war, so most of what you said was BS, faggot. Engine of the PZ4 was actually moreso underpowered so IDK why you'd use that as an example when trying to say the Tiger is underpowered.
>Tiger
>13 PS (9.5 kW) / tonne
>PZ4
>12 PS (8.8 kW) / tonne
I'd say for a tank designed in 1940 and released in 1942 it was fine compared to other shitbuckets rolling around in those days. Obviously it's not perfect, but don't say it's shit just because the history channel has been overselling it for years.
36cfb8 No.13989719
>>13988821
>Not being a battlemage so you can stab fuckers while also roasting their friends' faces off.
Plebeian squishymancer
9dc198 No.13989756
>>13989584
To clarify, at least in 3.5 and Pathfinder, Armor Class is a catch-all term which just means how hard you are to land a hit on. This includes dodging attacks, deflecting attacks with your armor or shield, and more nebulous things like how big your character is, how lucky they are, etc.
691179 No.13989880
>dexfags
>strfags
>dodging
>tanking
>parrying
>blocking
>not just summoning arcane bees
>not just frontloading all your damage before anything else matters
>not just chipping away from outside of their range
>not voiding your opponent from the fight with a glitchy displacement move that they can only recover from by dying
>not putting your opponents to sleep and placing hundreds of traps around them
>not merely distracting your opponents while your bees raid their honey vault
haha while you were reading this i made off with all of your honey! sayonara suckers
48e92f No.13989951
>>13989880
>not just bringing a gun and shooting them
britbong teir
59f33b No.13990113
>>13989103
>you can't parry
You can't with that attitude.
d9686e No.13990457
>>13989215
Yeah, I bet they don't even have ten fingers
a7a891 No.13990752
>Be speedfag
>can't even fucking hurt tankfag and he smashes my shit in.
>be Powerfag
>Tankfag pushes my shit in and takes advantage of my shit hp
It's almost like in a fight Power+Weight/bulk are the main factors or something so specing in something so worthless in speed outside a shonen anime if you have hopes to actually win and specing only in power missing the weight and bulk leaves you fighting half way with someone who does
48e92f No.13990764
>>13990752
>be speedfag
>still get hit
your just bad is all
a7a891 No.13990776
>>13990764
>Be speedfag
>Skim own post so fast mistakes your and you're
Go back to watching Bleach with /a if you think speed is so great.
7d3048 No.13990781
a7a891 No.13990785
8425f4 No.13990822
You're lucky there are no games where you can us real force as an input and dual wield shields, otherwise I'd introduce you to 6'10" of living wall
Big guy or die
691179 No.13990847
8425f4 No.13990851
>>13988924
That's sorcery not wizardry you dumbass.
Sorcerers are the cokeheads who managed to get so high the pink elephants got out