/v/ - Video Games

>no info on Links

Bad start OP.

>>13980194

Running Number 81 on a Railway deck is a must, I learn.

>>13980230

I thought Match Winners are outright banned?

>>13980231

Oh they certainly are but >>13980123 is bitching about power creep with a card that got absolutely shit on by links format.

>>13980230

>card you can't even run is OP

fuck off with that bullshit

Was wondering if there's any new support for 3 of my favorite archetypes, Gladiator Beasts, Battlin' Boxers and Fire Fists?

>>13980242

>card banned by default for being a pain in the ass to duel with because it fucks rulings

>easy to combat

>2400 attack

>LINK FUCKING 4

keep telling yourself that

>>13980299

I have brain damage, that's why.

>>13980147

>somehow forgot

And read the last line, faggot.

>>13980269

>first round of match

>opponent somehow gets Victory Dragon with an open board

>throw my cards all over the floor

>disqualified and lose

>start round two

It's a perfectly balanced card

>>13980331

>have monster removal

>opponent loses because he spent all his time on getting victory dragon on the board

>win

>>13980211

"True form" Gofu when?

>>13980365

never ever

>>13980384

gofu errata

>>13980378

It's as powerful as it is wrapped up in fucking chains visibly suppressing it. You know how lore works by now.

>>13980396

Assault Blackwings Gofu the Unchained Hurricane

>>13980269

>If this card attacks directly and reduces your opponent's life points to 0, you win

Well… yes. That's how the game works?

>>13980478

Sabrina needs so many fucking doujins.

>>13980478

I'm a retard.

Does that mean if you're playing best of three, but you win the first duel with this card, you don't have to duel again?

>>13980488

Yes, do you understand the problem now?

>>13980488

Yup. There's a reason why Match Winners are banned.

>>13980494

>>13980495

Oh.

That's a dumb ability then yeah.

>>13980495

I can't believe they wasted awesome art like Legendary Magician of Dark and Legendary Dragon of White for that pointless banned shit.

>>13980506

Match Winners are meant to be given out as rewards for participating in tournaments. Other then Victory Dragon It looking amazing is on purpose since there is literally no way of getting those cards other then buying it from people who won/attended the tournament. Ugly rewards wouldn't be correct anon.

>>13980525

>instead of giving our participants money we give them a shiny bit of cardboard

>>13980532

>not selling the shiny bit of cardboard

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PSA-10-Gem-Mint-WSUP-EN051-Replica-1st-Ed-Legendary-Dragon-of-White/132369055075?hash=item1ed1cf7d63:g:-WIAAOSw495Z6Rli

>>13980532

>instead of giving our participants money we give them a shiny bit of cardboard that they can't even use

Why do they keep making these things if they come out banned?

>>13980541

>have a hyper-limited edition card

>have to make it worth giving out to people as rewards

>can't be dog shit because these are some of the rarest cards ever

>but if they're OP it gives too much advantage to duelists in the long run by accumulating the exclusive cards

>we compromise by giving them an effect so broken their banned by default

>>13980540

>almost get your deck stolen by inbreds and niggers 20 times

>ace every match

>get a 100$ bit of tinfoil on cardboard for it

gee, thanks

>>13980562

use that in plants with gofu and grinder golem

enjoy instant results

>>13980576

pretty much this >>13980589

>>13980606

>played one of the worst burn decks in existence as far as experience

Holy shit. That deck doesn't even have a coherent thing going on. If you like giant beaters doing fun things I would recommend a Rank 10 Train deck. If you like constant swarming and comeback some zombie variant may be more up your alley.

On a separate note >tfw no march of the archives tournament ever

>>13980616

I am pretty sure Rata is too clinically depressed for that.

>>13980616

What do you mean? It's coherent thing was bouncing. Your main monsters bounced, sphinxes let your bouncing pull out other effects(Like causing your opponent to discard) And exxod and that grave oja or whatever it's called added burn to it.

>>13980635

It sucks at being a burn deck, it sucks at being a mill deck, it sucks at being a beat down deck, and it certainly doesn't have alternative win condition effect. It has no clear win condition. Sure, you can bounce things all day but that doesn't mean it has a coherent style going on.

>>13980576

I've glad people are shitposting at Kaiba for this in Duel Links.

>Konami starts listening to the fans for improvements

>suddenly every card is a furry or anime loli with a paragraph effect

>>13980562

>not even a Fiend

What the actual fuck.

>>13980570

How do you even use Grinder Golem?

>>13980652

Kemono is kind of hot tbh

>>13980735

>get 2 inherent tokens

>special summon grinder golem to opponents side over an extra monster zone

>use tokens to get out linkuriboh and and the spider thing

>summon akashic magician

>bounce the grinder golem

>keep summoning monsters with the tokens to bounce golem

>have a massive field

you just can't normal summon before or after

Is there anything worth summoning with Temple Of The Kings, or is it an outdated meme card at this point?

>>13981348

I can't think of anything that would be worth using it for aside from a hard to get out super Fusion or Synchro.

>>13981825

>Match

>>13980242

>>13980237

>>13980231

>>13980230

you do realize match winners don't actually work even if they weren't banned, right?

you just surrender before they can attack you

so how do i make dark worlds work in current year? they don't have enough shit to discard with, and the last trap they got is gimmicky since it needs them to have 3 cards in hand

i also tried shaddoll dark worlds, but i tend to get bricky hands with that

>>13981917

Which is where the ruling came into issue. Some judges thought that that was incredibly poor sportsmanship as it basically rendered the card useless and there were severe disagreements at venues whether or not such an act deserved a penalty or that the card effect should still take a full affect if they forfeit seconds before.

Spell negation

>Lightning Rod Lord + Terminal World/Flashbang/Thunder of Ruler

>Anti-Spell Fragrance

>Curse of Darkness

>Spell Canceller

Making monsters useless

>Lose 1 Turn

>Quaking Mirror Force

>Floodgate Trap Hole

>Swords of Concealing Light

Cluttering opp's field

>Ojama Trio

>Silent Wobby

>Santa Claws

>Lava Golem

>Kaijus

>Rivalry of Warlords/Gozen Match

>Ground Collapse

Shitting on special summons

>Fossil Dyna

>Vanity's Fiend

>Monarchs

I love meta-fag tears.

I either play character anime decks or lock/stun decks that completely shits on the cancerous swarm meta. Currently experimenting with a Watt lock deck.

Tributing opponent's monsters is really underrated. It bypasses "can't be destroyed" and gets rid of your opponent's cancer without any problem. Just plomp a Lava Golem and watch their tears flow as their unstoppable Xyz monsters with tl;dr effects get effortlessly removed from the board.

>>13980326

Why must you tempt man's inner rapist so, Japan?

>>13980606

Has any local ever held an "oldschool" style deck where you just shove a bunch of single cards into one deck and see if you can make it work?

>>13982102

my locals did a thing a month ago where your deck has to only have 1 copy of each card and i think there wasn't any banlist although i might be wrong about that part

>>13982102

All my character decks only run 1x copies of a card unless they specifically ran multiples in the anime (such as 3 BEWD for Kaiba).

>>13982232

If there's one thing I don't like Yugioh, it's how dependent everything became on archetypes. If you don't have everything you need for one, you can no longer make a deck.

>>13982666 (checked)

I'm not saying I have a problem with archetypes in general, just how everything basically had to split away, form and stick with its own new tribe.

Like what about some specific support cards fairly distributed that allow certain things to work together?

>>13982666

How can I play dark synchrons now that links are out satania-sama?

>>13983076

>>13983039

are there any good ygo games with a campaign that let me just skip to the story duels rather than making me grind pointless duels for an hour?

ideally with single card rewards instead of boosters, but that's not mandatory

>>13983274

>rather than making me grind pointless duels for 20 hours?

There's no official game like this. Just download YgoPro.

>>13984174

And thus, whenever they knew Victory Dragon was going to finish them off, they'd surrender. Thus, they would lose the duel, not the match. Similarly, you could keep Victory Dragon in your side deck and even if you lost the first two duels, demand it go to the third game because you could still win the match.

>>13984198

> summenod

*summoned, fucking dyslexia

>>13984196

>they'd surrender.

Then, depending on the temperament of the judge, you would be penalized for bad sportsmanship.

>>13984198

>Links slowed down the game

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No >>13983114

>>13984211

>You can't surrender on your opponent's turn, only your own.

Only the video games have this restriction, you can surrender at anytime in an official duel.

>>13984222

you didn't even look it up, did you?

>>13984232

Rules

Officially, players are allowed to surrender the Duel at any time, during either player's turn. However, in the TCG, the opponent is required to accept a player's surrender, whereas in the OCG the opponent can refuse a surrender for a single game. However, in both the TCG and OCG, the opponent must accept a Match surrender

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Surrender

>>13984232

Feel free to cite the rulebook where it says that you can only surrender during your own main phase. I've heard that the OCG does that but I don't think you're Japanese.

>>13984242

Red Nova Dragon is invincible to destruction by any of your opponent's effects, but hopelessly vulnerable to anything that negates and sends back to the hand.

I guess you could make things easier with Limit Overdrive.

>>13984242

>>13984565

Literally all I fucking want is 3 Extra Monster Zones per player, at all times if possible. Leave at least the minimum room for people to get the 3 materials they need for Quasar and more and let Pendulum players get out at least a maximum small defense of 3 little defenders every turn if they absolutely need it.

This also perfectly regulates Extra Deck power by forcing all players to rely more on their main deck for support and carefully consider every second who they want their best "party" or "front lines" to be in terms of Fusions, Synchros and Xyzs. This simple, but revolutionary dynamic and power balance could have made things really interesting.

>>13984242

I loved my Red Nova.

My favorite play was a game where I had my ass against the wall and was pretty fucked. My Red Dragon Archfiend had just been destroyed, the only monster card I had in my hand was the Blackwing tuner that summons another Blackwing with low enough stats, and I figured it was gg. I had only about 15 cards left in my deck, and I knew which ones they were.

I looked at my opponent, and said, "I've pretty much lost this game. The only card I can pull now that can save me is Monster Reborn." And by the Heart of the Cards, I drew it. In that turn, Red Nova Dragon was born, and from there I held the advantage.

There was another guy in our group who loved bouncing. Fuck that guy.

>>13987594

Heart of the Cards may have started out as a lie, but we made it into a meme.

And then we made that meme into a truth.

Shit, when did the old thread die?

>>13988090

I was baking this one and waiting until I saw the old one about 10 threads away from dropping off.

With what I know about /v/, a new thread for either just shitposting or "Hey, faggots, I want to talk about this game" at minimum pops up every hour at least. By that logic, the old one would be gone in 2 days or less no matter how lazy the board got one of them.

>>13991195

I feel like my brain wasn't working right back when I couldn't see why Lonefire Blossom was banned and deservingly as bullshit. Then I did some more thinking.

And then I personally learned the hard way in 2011 when it's a Level 2 that can grab fucking anything it wants from the deck every turn including powerful Level 7-8s and doesn't even have an actual cost. I kind of do and don't want to see what actual humans degenerately did with decks built to abuse 3.

What cards look the best in Secret Rare?

>>13980239

Gladiator Beasts got a new Fusion, I think.

>>13980239

GB got support in the form of a new crappy link monster. Run it a 2

>Gladiator Beast Dragacius

>2 "Gladiator Beast" monsters

If your "Gladiator Beast" monster attacks, it cannot be destroyed by that battle, also your opponent's cards and effects cannot be activated until the end of the Damage Step. At the end of the Battle Phase, if this card battled: You can return it to the Extra Deck; Special Summon 2 "Gladiator Beast" monsters with different names from your Deck. You can only use this effect of "Gladiator Beast Dragacius" once per turn.

Not bad but not what the deck needs. They are still to slow and almost nothing got SSC

Shining Draw card when? Chaos variant already exists.

>>13982038

>Tributing opponent's monsters is really underrated.

It was rated highly enough to make Kaiju mandatory side and likely maindeck for archetypes with removal. I dig Lava Golem, though.

>>14007437

Take a guess.

>"b-but its the meta!"

>>13984211

>That and it's a Level 8 dragon which is known for summoning from the grave

but the card says "no special summons" which I'm pretty sure means no reviving from the graveyard. Also it requires 3 dragon type cards to tribute summon… correct me if I'm wrong, I'm new.

>>14008398

I'm still not gay, faggot. I love tits too much.

>>14010389

Big monster designs literally got infinitely better than that over time and that effect isn't shit.

Just started duel links, haven't played since they went to atlantis in the anime. Got kaiba's upgraded dragon deck, which booster packs have the best cards to augment that deck?

Also what the hell do I do with coins?

>>14010389

Masked Beastw was shit when it was printed. It is not even a fair comparison. They are not the same type of cards. If you really want to go that way compare to Necloth or Vandred

>>14011612

Jellyfish support when? It was shit in Tag Force.

>>14011612

Shit looks like the chimeras from mgq

>>14007374

>>14007457

That is beautiful.

>>13980365

not in your life time

>>14028020

I don't know how this stupid oversight keeps happening.

>>14028301

Elemental Hero looks better as an archetype than HERO.

>>14029361

What was the point of even excluding it from other Frog cards' effects when it's fucking nothing? Things could have gotten interesting with other language translations allowing unexpected synergy.

>>13980333

No older Fusions, Synchros, Xyzs or big Effect Monsters?

>>14029399

But Hitotsu-Me Giant is literally "One-Eye Giant". How's that any different to the Japanese card being called Cyclops?

>>14038450

Because it was Cyclops in English, early konami translators decided that cards that were in Japanese will be translated over to English, but Japanese cards that had English names would be translated over with a Japanese name, thus, the name of the Japanese card, is "Cyclops" as in the English word for Cyclops. The translators then changed it from an English word to a Japanese one "Hitotsu-me giant". Another example, the English card "Giant Trunade"'s original name was "Hurricane" in English, written out in romaji. Why did the translators feel the need to rename a card when it was already in English?

>>14011612

>>14011664

Vendread is something I've never once played against and I forgot it was even a thing. Wonder why.

>>14015776

That fucking Monster Girl Quest game? Aren't they supposed to be cute? Chimeras aren't cute, they're intentionally an unnatural composite of different beast strengths for killing someone with.

>>13980549

What if it was something special, but not too OP, like once per turn being able to treat a monster with the same type as a Tuner or allowing a little Level 3 or lower to steal a Rank 5 or lower Xyz's effect and a material and use it against them once per duel?

I keep getting FPS drops every time I try to duel or edit my deck, any advice?

>>14038160

How consistently and you are dueling against the AI. Seems very vulnerable to Ash as well. The hot """OP""" card to hate is Grinder Golem.

>>14043672

Now that is a sweet Fusion.

It's a shame an advanced concept and play style like Synchro Fusion didn't take off. It had potential.

I hope everyone had a very Merry Christmas.

Unless you're an obnoxious shill faggot that condescendingly defends only one monster from the Extra Deck at a time without a shit physical paywall that puts even amiibo to shame.

So i see some folks online talking about new Vendreads. Have they revealed more post CB?

Because i main them but i just really want them to not use Shiranui like a crutch. It desperately needs a second ritual and an 8 star boss ritual monster.

Or shit give it an extra deck monster because right now it doesnt even fucking need links format. I summon archfiend zombie skull to protect my zombies against effect monster heavy decks. I use doomkaiser if i want a blue eyes equivalent with a zombie red eyes while zombie worlds up and any other time? i ALWAYS use the extra monster zone for scarlight red dragon archefiend. Every time and that shit relies on shiranuis and uni zombie.

Maybe its because shiranui are more shaman than zombies but it feels like -to use a vidya term- vendreads are dps and shiranui are tank and healers. They need a big boss. Slayer feels like dark magician but they need their magician of black chaos.

>>14056702

Yugioh is the last stronghold not fallen to lolis. It must hold.

>>14056855

>this nigga doesnt know

someone came back after stopping with 5ds huh?

>>14056702

>one per a turn card draw almost guaranteed because Zombies

>generates tribute fodder for the link 5 Vampire engine

>link material piss easy to acquire

All 5 Vampire players in the world creamed their pants, as for everyone else, the most supported type of monster in the game has gotten even more support.

>>14057446

>zombies

>most supported

>not dark/fiends/spellcasters/dragons

nani?

>>14058317

lavals got hit by the banlists. they still sort of work, but they're just not worth it

gishkis are as good as they've ever been, but there's just not enough new support to make them worth playing

gustos are amazing right now because of dragonic barrier, also windwitches

steelswarms are semi-playable if you also run evilswarms, but they're still somewhat bottom tier among the duel terminals

I really like Ultimate Insect. Fucker should have gotten 2 more forms with super ATK lowering and Trap immunity.

>>14058322

>>14058317

I remember when they first came out. Gishkis were actually what got me playing yugioh competitively, and I continued up until somewhere in the middle of the Pendulum era. Its a shame that they are shunned so much when it comes time to giving them support I just want more Steelswarm Support that isn't a fucking Link that actually supports their pseudo monarch playstyle.And some Vylon and Gishki support would be nice too.

>>14057005

All I know of is those admittedly fucking sexy Traptrix.

And I don't know of anyone sexualizing Ayu or Meiru.

Tag Force Special can be fucking updated with newer cards? Holy shit. Does some kind of dedicated OCG community channel autism to create nonofficial DLC or patches?

>>14061844

>traptrix

>female

>>14068527

limited

>>14062010

What.

>>14028301

completely unrelated but why does nippon casually borrow random words from english so often anyway? every animu I watch does this

>>14074757

I assume it's because of the postbellum occupation by America and the fact that's just how loanwords work, though usually not to such an extreme extent

I also bet they think it sounds cool

>>14073803

>TRAPtrix

>female

>download Power of Chaos Joey the Passion

>Magic Jammer doesn't work correctly

>Bazoo the Soul Eater has the original effect on the card text and description but that actual effect is the first errata one

>you only get one card after winning a duel and can only fight Joey

>the dialog during battle is cool for awhile but just gets annoying eventually

No wonder I've never heard of these games.

>>14076259

>>you only get one card after winning a duel and can only fight Joey

you get 3 if you win a match

winning the first 2 games is essentially a 3 for 2 deal

>>14075137

They're lolis with power over all Hole related Traps.

>>14077508

So what piece of ass is Arthur's bitch that Lancelot cucks?

>>14077572

Guinevere. Heck, their affair is what Mordred used to start a civil war.

>>14077508

they work really well with the new support

they still lose to kaijus though

>>14078694

>They still lose to kaijus

Who doesn't?

>>14080235

yea, but what do i do if my opponent only summons one nearly invincible boss monster?

>>14078445

I meant the card.

Does anyone seriously have a cardfu?

>>14080270

the entire trickstar and lyrilusc archetypes at this point, ngl famalam

>>14078694

Are Kaijus still viable? I mean…used to run one but then they fucked up Kaiser Colosseum.

>>14083200

Kaijus are played as a side material since or as a a way to break boards. SO, yes but in the way you want.

>>14080310

Legitimately surprised no one ever fanboys Amazoness. Well trained and actually powerful looking yet hot as fuck tanned, /fit/ tomboys still visibly feminine even with long or average length hair.

>>14080335

Every diehard Yugioh fan has at least 1 monster that's their all time favorite. I'm talking about waifufagging.

I wonder if I could beat Arc-V Jack even with all the other Red cards using Red Nova Dragon as an ace in a lucid dream? That would be literally fucking unbelievable. I don't even know if any amount of Tuners and backrow could get over Scarright. Tyrant, Abyss, Bane and King Calamity combined with all that and the meme and anime power of the KINGU backing them up.

>>14083200

they work too well

graydle kaijus/yosenju kaijus are also still really good

>>14083886

Horus is fucking awesome and it's still a powerful card you have to put in work for. There's nothing to be ashamed of.

>>14083886

Post your deck.

>>14086249

When he was released I didn't even realize how good it was considered. I just saw the card and was like "this is it, this is my card" and did everything I could to get it and build a deck around it. I ended up pairing it with Jinzo and had no idea at the time that it was actually a common strategy since I just played locally and didn't even realize there was an online scene until the last year when I saw YGO general threads.

>>14086280

Well, I haven't actually played anything more recent than synchro-era and I still haven't integrated synchros into my deck properly yet. To be fair, I haven't really needed to. I have some Flamvell Guards, Phonon Pulse Dragons, Star Eater and Cosmic Blazar Dragon but I need to figure out what to switch for tuners. I've barely touched XYZ and Links at all, though I know everyone is gay for Firewall Dragon and that I like Borrelload Dragon. I just swapped around until I found what worked best against the people I was playing at the time so it's probably metashit, I have no idea. I know the Monarchs are. Plz no bully.

>Normal: Gene-Warped Warwolf

>Effect 1-4: Blizzard Dragon x3, Chainsaw Insect x3, D.D. Warrior Lady, Dandylion, Marshmallon, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole, Nimble Momonga x3, Snipe Hunter, Spirit Reaper, Treeborn Frog

>Effect 5-6: Cyber Dragon, Horus the Black Flame Dragon Lv 6, Jinzo, Mobius the Frost Monarch, Rauza the Storm Monarch, Zaborg the Thunder Monarch

>Effect 7+: Gorz Emissary of Darkness, Horus the Black Flame Dragon Lv 8, Light and Darkness Dragon

>Magic: Brain Control, Fissure, Heavy Storm, Lightning Vortex, Mystical Space Typhoon, Nobleman of Crossout, Pot of Avarice, Swords of Revealing Light

>Traps: Crush Card Virus (swap with Bottomless Trap Hole or TT if banned), Magic Cylinder, Mirror Force, Sakuretsu Armor, Trap Jammer, Waboku

>Horus and Jinzo locking up spells and traps is obviously the ideal key but I've won more duels without the combo than with. Sometimes I don't get around to summoning either, or just keep Horus downgraded so I can break through restricting spell cards.

>Having one normal monster has saved my ass a few times in the past, so it has stayed.

>Blizzard Dragon locks up the opponent's attacking options and is a great way to stall if you get fucked by a strong monster.

>Chainsaw Insect is a 2400 beatstick with the bonus of sawing down their deck, and I've actually pulled stalls out of my ass this way.

>Cyber Dragon and Gorz have bailed me out so many times when the field got nuked.

>D.D. Warrior Lady needs no introduction, nor Dandylion, Treeborn Frog, or Marshmallon.

>I don't get to use Spirit Reaper + Crush Card very often but every time I do against a "strong" deck it wreaks havoc.

>The Monarchs and Snipe Hunter help control the field even more by getting rid of shit I don't like, Grand Mole does this in a softer way.

>Mononga is useful fodder and adds some LP recovery. Also nostalgia.

>Light and Darkness Dragon only makes an appearance if I need to lock down effects on the field and, ideally, if I have a way of keeping it out a couple turns. I rarely take it out and it's more like a panic button since you can't control its ability, but it works fantastically when played right.

>Except for Pot of Avarice, all of the spells and traps are just more zone control, restricting attack, destroying cards or removing ownership. A block so you can punch again.

>>14086798

you mind as well just swap all your low level monsters for frogs. frognarch used to be pretty good back in 2011

speaking of which, traps/spells that you can't activate whenever you want might be a bad idea because of treeborn frog

>>14086853

I'm not too familiar with other frog monsters. As for traps, I just don't put them down unless I have a reason to. It's only been a pain a few times since their general utility affords plenty of chances to activate them. Usually Treeborn's effect is just something you can or cannot do and I don't rely on it alone.

Could anyone explain to me how the new link system works?

>>14086899

>>14086888

frogs basically work as easy to mill and summon tribute fodder

swap frog sends ronintoadin/treeborn to the grave, other frogs as banish materials for ronintoadin etc.

treeborn, ronintoadin and swap frogs can all be special summoned so you just use them as tribute materials for monarchs, light and darkness dragon, sea lancer etc.

>>14086954

Sounds fun. I'm not reliant on my high level monsters to win; I think I took the whole "heart of the cards, rely on your whole deck" thing to heart since the game was released. I might give it a try, I know that the frogs are all puns in the original Japanese and that's about it. I do like the theme they have going.

>>14086899

They're like XYZ except they don't need to be same level and don't have the materials system. Their link value on the bottom right tells you how many monsters you need to have to summon them. Link values stack, if you have a link 2 monster and a regular monster on the field you can make a link 3 monster with them.You can't summon monsters from the extra deck except on one of the Extra Zones or any of your monster zones that any monster on the field - even your opponent's - points to.

Damn it…was thinking of making a Roid deck but the recipe calls for 3 Chicken Games…which is banned right now.

>>14086899

Link Monsters, I like the idea of. Tribute a specific number of monsters to summon out an Extra Deck monster that points to yours and the opponents' monsters for various effects.

Existing just for a physical paywall for fucking playing the game as normally needs to get retconned the fuck into oblivion and a shit stain on history.

Literally all that needs to be done is removing the new zone shit and having Links chain together monsters from either side of the field for all kinds of crazy new fun strategies.

>>14088307

To be fair, though, the extra deck, turn-one-three-quasars boards needed to die. That shit was just stupid. Though links are a stupid paywall scam, I'm having a lot more fun trying to put together boards without as many extra deck monsters as I used touse, like with my Lyrilusc deck, where I really only need the one extra deck monster out at a time.

Seriously though, summoning stupidly powerful extra deck boards with no suitable outs or drawbacks was fucking retarded. Stuff like Spyral and Pendulum Mag can still create stupidly powerful boards using links, and heaven knows links didn't slow the game down as intended, but *personally* I'd rather have links than those fucking extra deck spams

>>14091839

Then allow only 3 fucking Extra Deck monsters at all times per player.

>>14091899

or, you know, maybe not rely on entirely extra deck decks/boards, get creative, do what the game is meant to do and evolve

>>14093762

A physical paywall retcon for a card game is inexcusable and you fucking know it. This worthless shit isn't "evolution", it's only taking away from the entirety.

And don't make shitty nonarguments about everyone relying solely on the Extra Deck for a worthless "call out" that doesn't even work.

>>14093762

>>14095154

These shitnami retards only did this shit for greed and anti-consumer arrogant faggotry as always and for being too incompetent to make simple "cooldowns" for Pendulums to balance the fucking game period and you know it. There is nothing clever to defend.

>>14095158

People love to mock those who say "Synchros were the beginning of the end" but Synchros started what was the extra-deck bullshit Yugioh evolved into.

It started with Tributes, you needed monsters on the field and the one you want to summon in the hand. Perfectly fine. Counted as a normal summon too.

Then came Fusion. Fusion was fine too, monsters on the field OR hand, and you didn't need to hold the end result as it was in the extra deck but you needed a fusion card to make use of them and more often than not they were well balanced.

Then came Synchros. Synchros weren't too bad since they needed monsters on the field similar to tributes, but with the difference being it was in the extra deck. But this is the point where monster effects started getting crazy good, and where it became "monster effects drive the game of Yugioh". Not to mention that since it was level based, board-spam became the most relevant tactic.

XYZ were stupid. Synchros but the generic ones were less restrictive to summon. Even the specific ones aren't too hard to summon since there's always at least one easy way to churn out board advantage in the way you need it.

Fuck Pendulums.

Links are better than pendulums, but they'e rendered plenty of cards entirely useless. Gladiator Beast Tamer Editor was a stupid thing to print in the first place, but now it straight up doesn't work.

Every new summoning mechanics was a powercreep in such a way that they made them easier and easier to do, meaning you either go with them or you lose. The game relies on the extra deck as much as ever, now it's just slower while doing so.

>>14029361

>it was in every pack

are you joking? frog the jam was a mcdonald's promo only until the name change reprint

>>14096065

It might not have been in a pack, but every kid had like 12 of the things.

>>14061844

some madolches and ghostricks are gud loli material

>>14095353

What if in an alternate reality Pendulums had a "cooldown" after first coming back from the Extra Deck to stop spamming? Level 1-4 monsters like regular ones have to wait one turn while Odd-Eyes and more will have to wait 3 turns after bringing back just to try to spam Fusion unless you "tribute" 1 or more Pendulum Summoned Pendulums like if it was a regular Level 5 or higher monster in your hand to reduce the "timer" to 0 at the cost of just spamming the same monsters every turn because even those will now have to wait a turn or more before you go nuts.

All complaints would immediately be gone. There's your perfect nerf to Pendulums and I thought that shit up all on my own. Only 1 Fusion, Synchro or Xyz at a time otherwise is unacceptable. If it were 2 at least, it would have perfectly balanced all 4 types right there. 2 attackers or defenders every turn from Pendulums and at least 2 Fusions, Synchros and Xyzs to fight with and there's always been at least 2 of the latter 3 at most on the field for everyone's favorite heroes and underdogs, save for the end of 5Ds, so this doesn't retroactively fuck over the entire fucking history of the franchise just for this straight up anti-consumer corporate shit that crossed the line this time and has to be punished.

>>14097619

Anon, I genuinely like your ruling idea, confusing though it may be.

So what you're saying is…

- LV 1-4's wait a turn to pendysummon

- LV 5-6's wait two turns to pendysummon

- LV 7+'s wait three turns to pendysummon

but only from the extra deck, right? and the timer starts from when they hit the extra deck face-up? this is a little convoluted but I can get shiggy with it.

However, with regard to the idea that you can't just have singles on the field at a time… I dunno. I don't really see what's wrong with it. Maybe I just never really relied as much on the extra deck. see: Nekroz and Cyber Angels Plus, not every deck takes advantage of pendulums to work, nor does every deck need to use each type of extra deck monster to work. There's absolutely an issue with fusion-based decks like Heroes who're fucked to oblivion through this, sure, but as you can well see, the meta is still working around shit like this and making fully competent decks. let's be honest, when the fuck has Komoney ever cared that much about the casual players? That being said, using shit cards like Firewall Dragon or Topological Bomber Dragon are annoying, but stuff like Mistar Boy or Missus Radiant type elemental extra deck openers, or even Decode Talker, are not that bad, and for fucks sake, they're not that fucking expensive or hard to use. Take a look at them sometime.

The only out I'd like to see would be an alternative format with actual tournament representation, unlike how Pegasus League got forgotten, of course for using all five zones for extra decks as was the norm beforehand, called Original or something. I could see that happening, with all link-related cards being illegal to play in it. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I want to suck links' dick, but I got fucked over way more by extra deck spammers than I ever did with this rule change.

also, what decks do you play?

>>14098900

I'm saying Pendulum decks need at least room for 2 defenders or attackers to fight with and other decks need at least more than 1 fucking Fusion, Synchro or Xyz on the field based on their strengths.

I just make whatever catches my interest and I can think of enjoying. Blue-Eyes based off of the Saga structure deck with a shit ton of drawing and discarding power and Darkstorm Dragons to absolutely swarm and devastate with 2 Azure-Eyes at most and a Hieratic Sun Dragon. Buster Blader was also a deck I loved using until it literally felt way too cheap with revolving around forcing everything to not even be able to fucking battle permanently stuck helplessly in Defense and without any effect and I deleted it. Cyber Dragon with a focus on stopping backrow and finally ZW. Odd-Eyes. My favorite most recent deck is fucking Odd-Eyes+and Magicians with select Entermates tech'd in.

>>14099344

>why is my old out of print deck that was hard to pull in the first place so expensive

gee, I wonder why

>>14099588

I didn't even know that Catalyst Field card existed , that's going to come in handy.

>>13998480

REEE, Konami. I want my Gateway at 3

>>14086798

Reminds me of my old Horus Lock deck.

>Masked Dragon engine with tools to play with (Exploder Dragon, dragon-type tuners)

>Divine Dragon Ragnarok and Hex - Dark-sealed Fusion for King Dragun support (and since King Dragun and Stardust Dragon work so well together for protection, plus King Dragun being my all-time favorite)

>One or two useful supporting Dragons (switching around between Prime Material Dragon, REDMD and LADD, to name a few)

>three Royal Decrees and spells to annoy the opponent or ruin battle opportunities (Shrink, Swords of Revealing Light, Enemy Controller), plus Dragon's Mirror and classic cards

Still fun to use in DS WC games

Why are Tea's tits randomly so fucking glorious in the Noah arc, even in the dub?

It's almost like even 4kids didn't want to touch them and didn't even try to.

>>14105544

Heck, I call bullshit that the INFINITE ATTACK POWER Obelisk couldn't just flatten Mega Ultra Chicken because "some Gods are stronger than others" BS. Just about as shit as the broken Seal of Orihalcos.

>>14095353

I don't think the game slowed down at all, just the decks who either got shitty links or can't use generic links well have really slowed down and are dead. Link monsters which are good enable their decks to shit out half of both their main and extra deck like always, just like in the good ol' pre-link times.

>>14107599

Don't billy me.

>>14107550

>Premium Collection was released in 2011, but neither Void Ogre Dragon or any Xyzs are in WC 2011 despite every Zexal era Duel Terminal up to Knights of the Starry Skies that only existed in Japan being included

Fucking triggered.

Don't know if Superheavy still have a place. Been using it in the non-Link YGOPro..

>>14109662

Not really, it would only summon White Duston's back to the field and House Duston's effect really can't make use of that. I could use it as tribute fodder for 13 and 31 though.

>>14109220

there is a generic machine qliphort link monster, so they should still work

>>14110375

I would engage in coitus with that

>>14009611

You're correct

>>14111404

seems pretty balanced as far as matchwinners go, sure wish we could fucking use it, assuming like what this anon >>13984211 said are the surrendering rules

>>14068527

too cute to be banned

>>14116004

I tried to play superheavy once, it was a fun deck with an interesting mechanic.

I take it they don't work in link era ygo?

>>14116004

Needlefiber will make it playable, I think. It was a fun deck, a shame that Gongenzaka didn't do much.

>>14116150

Kinda tried in the Link YGOPro..but it kinda timed out after the lengthy AI turn.

>>14116232

>AI

I take it you're not using Percy then

>>14116404

It's that Vs Links beta of Percy, i think.

>>14122150

Flatten them against a table and let sit under whatever you're using for entire days if necessary.

I stacked my 3DS XL, PSP, DS and SP all on top of a Beast-Eyes shut the fuck up don't bully him that sat out too long and it worked fine.

>>14095353

>>14097619

Synchro is my favorite type of Extra Deck as you can already tell from the OP and it's because it retroactively forced weaker monsters with special abilities and qualifications to be more usable by being candidates for pulling together for powerful summons that require thinking, like Normal Summoning Junk Synchron with a monster that survived a turn on the field then whistling a fallen buddy or waifu from the graveyard to pull together for a powerful dragon to fight back with. The only thing you need to complain about is the shitty power creep of way too many Special Summoning and blowing up effects starting with the fucking Fagwings.

Cyber Dragon is perfect example of power creep that didn't break the game. He was a stronger monster you could quickly bring out without a tribute if the opponent already controlled a monster and his attacking power was 2100, exactly only 200 or 300 points more than the strongest monsters out there that didn't need a tribute or anyting fancy and weren't impractically shit as a tradeoff.

TL;DR Synchro dindu nuffin, it was only shitty spam capable effects like easy once per turn destruction and swarming that worsened with Xyz.

>>14107476

>chocolate magician girl

>she isn't delicious brown

>>14122629

It's just shit lighting for her. She's meant to be.

I played these guys a little bit a couple years back. Tour Bus from the Underworld can put one Duston back in your deck when it's sent to the graveyard, and Number 49: Fortune Tune can similarly recycle 2 of them. Fortune Tune also gives you back a few life points and resists destruction. I made good use of Pot of Avarice when it wasn't banned. I also ran Tour Guide and a few Stygian Security to special summon Dustons from my deck fairly often. Then there's Give and Take which lets you revive a Duston to your opponent's field.

Ah, it wasn't the best deck, but it sure was annoying.

>>14122768

for >>14109600

>>14125736

>Masked Hero Dian all sold out within a day after this was announced

wew lad. Glad I already have a couple.

>>14125736

Good news for all of us Hero players.

>>14125736

it basically replaces goblindbergh, huh?

>>14125991

Yup, it's a better Goblindbergh for Heroes, also it's much easier to use Dian now (who's actually really good) since before that you had to either run sub-par heroes or you had use Mask Change II just for Goblindbergh.

>>14125583

>Dustons can be used by your opponent for link summoning so there goes the clogging your opponent aspect of the deck

Jesus Christ, Konami. I think the entire reason the Dustons were even made was because that aspect of the cards like Ojama Trio and Lava Golem was destroyed by Synchro and XYZ monsters, and outright blocking your opponent's zones with Ojama King or Ground Collapse is almost pointless given the speed of the game.

Just about the only one of my old techniques that could work now is shoving an Acid Golem of Destruction onto their field with something like Creature Swap and hope they don't just tribute or destroy it. Oh well, I haven't played since Pendulums were a thing anyway.

>>14129351

>I think the entire reason the Dustons were even made was because that aspect of the cards like Ojama Trio and Lava Golem was destroyed by Synchro and XYZ monsters

When you think about it, all of this bullshit could've been averted if they just put "cannot be used as a material for any special summoning of an Extra Deck monster" and presto. But then again, this is Coonami we're talking about.

Holy shit, how is Guardian Eatos being a fucking next level waifu not a storm of shitposting and porn?

She's fucking perfect and she even watches over someone from childhood, so there's that even mommy gf niche and Christmas Cake right there.

>>14136493

dunno, but I like to think that card game relevance/memes places a role in how much something is memed and thought about in the community >implying the yugioh community is anything more than absolute shit. I think Eatos was used for some possible OTKs a little while back and wasn't half bad for Xyzes and stuff, but for the most part, she kinda faded out of relevance a little while back but remember anon, there's porn of everything, if that's what you're looking for

>>14136683

Less than 5 lewds in all fucking existence after searching.

>>14104564

The nips know.

>>14125736

This card made me try out masked heroes. It's actually fun.

>>14140749

(konami be like)

CHING CHONG WhaT THE FUCK

SHUT IT DOWN

>>14141019

I meant the tits.

>>14141046

kek

>>14141066

Even the card game kikes at shitnami can't overcome the power of anime tiddies.

>>14125736

Heroes make me feel ill every time I run into them.

>>14142797

She's only 1500 fucking ATK with no other effect at LV 7 and 2 Level 4s is literally all you need to indignantly kick her ass of the field.

Either she's a loveless bislut whore or she's a magical blueballing bitch who does nothing but tease.

>4 months ago everyone laughed at me including Zombie World in my deck

>After getting fucked by Z. Red Eyes or its synchro equivalent stealing their links they all run it

DAS RIGHT

>>14143394

Why would anyone laugh at Zombie World? It helps fuck up so much shit for the opponent in the right deck.

>>14143131

>caring about a card's effect when deciding whether to masturbate to it or not

This is some advanced autism on display

>>14143666

Well fuck, I can't argue with those trips Satan

>>14143507

I hate facing that fucking card because I know my monsters are about to get overwhelmingly ran over and stolen. When I make a deck, I always pack at least 5 cards for destroying Traps like Mirror Force(s) and Dimensional Prison at minimum and I have an unhealthy almost impairing obsession with Raigeki Break because it gets rid of backrow AND monsters, so there's always 2 of them at minimum since playing WC 2011.

I'm too worried about being able to attack and destroy immediately problematic shit in an emergency to worry about Field Spells or setting up in general. Yes, I fucking sound old and I'm still using slower strategies by habit.

>>14143659

The point is she isn't shit as a card and literally all that's good about her is her tits and I don't know if there's any good porn. Only Thunder Nyan Nyan is more infuriating in terms of wasted art.

>>14143683

Exactly. Zombie World isn't something to laugh at unless you know your deck can deal with it. Anon's opponents had some major hubris.

>Yes, I fucking sound old and I'm still using slower strategies by habit.

I feel you. Sometimes you feel like a tortoise but as long as it's reliable you'll do okay.

>>14143683

>

The point is she isn't shit as a card and literally all that's good about her is her tits and I don't know if there's any good porn. Only Thunder Nyan Nyan is more infuriating in terms of wasted art.

Fair enough, though Yugioh has so much kickass artwork that is completely wasted on shitty fucking cards that I guess I just got used to it.

>>14143704

I'm still forever pissed about how wall punchingly retarded Neos is, let alone without Miracle Contact not released until fucking Zexal after that fucking autism triggering size change in the cards as well as apparently butchering Divine Neos and now I have poor Genex and pals and Ally of Justice to add to that list to a lesser extent.

>>14143727

I know what you mean, I like the Fabled's Synchro monsters' artwork, especially Leviathan, but almost all of them aren't even worth running.

>>14143747

At least Dark Neos can literally hilariously negate and get around his own effect permanently, but you're stuck with just a cooler looking Neos you might be able to think of something neat to do with as a Fusion.

>>13980119

>Links

Fuck that, Yugioh ended with Pendulums.

>>14144399

Yugioh died with Tele-DAD you fucking scrub.

>>14144575

>implying it didn't die with Cybernetic Revolution

buncha kiddies in here

>>14144605

Fuck you, he did nothing wrong.

>>14144639

>cyber dragon apologist

Fuck off. Cyber Dragon remains the biggest powercreep in all of Yugioh. He single-handedly destroyed the identity of Yugioh. Turning it from a balanced grindgame to a fucking shitflinging powerplays you have no real control over.

>>14144641

Thats right. Back in my day there was no limit on main decks or extra decks. Until that one faggot brought in that 1000 card deck or whatever. And man-eater bug was a good card.

>>14143507

They all swore "its a waste of a field card" because they seem to have no idea how fucking powerful it is to garauntee the type of every monster on the field. Really fucks over those effect monster reliant decks if you get archfiend zombie skull and zombie world early.

>>14144778

Don't forget about in every Graveyard, too. That's a bit important.

>>14144809

>red eyes zombie dragon

>doomkaiser dragon

>mezuki

>gozkui

>archfiend zombie skull

>uni zombie

>shiranui spectralsword

You basic 'nah fuck you' zombie starterkit.

>>14144712

In all seriousness, Monarchs are the biggest powercreep in Yugioh. Cyber Dragon is still just a 2100 monster than can be Special Summoned for an emergency tribute and then Photon Thrasher came out 2 eras later and it was a fucking Level 4 that couldn't be Normal Summoned entirely and even couldn't attack with anything else in your control.

Cyber Dragon is not the point Special Summoning got out of control nor to blame for the Synchro and Xyz spam years later that has everything to do with all kinds of combos and setup. Not even close. Cyber Twin Dragon I don't think I can defend in that regard because Fusions that powerful and more possible to bring out didn't exist until that point.

>>14144830

>red eyes zombie dragon

Are you the guy who kept shilling for REZD in Zombie World decks? First of all, nobody plays him if they play zombie decks. Second of all, thank you for giving me a ton of laughs when I brought (a slightly modified version) of your deck to a locals to see if your shilling was actually worth something and people kept yelling "WHAT FUCKING CARD IS THIS?" as I won matches with him. Playing wacky decks with cards that have a lot of synergy is what I love doing, even though Zombie World isn't really that much of a wacky deck until you put something less obvious like REZD in it.

>>14144712

>>14144883

The only thing to even note is that it can mow down all those precious 2000 defenders if you don't already control a monster. Even then, it's still one of the only ones of its kind. The Tricky needs a discard to SS and Interplanetarypurplythorny Dragon is still one of the only handful monsters that can be Special Summoned the way it is and that was years ago in Zexal.

Cyber Dragon was also released by when small ATK boosts meant shit meaning all those 1500 or higher monsters would easily blow it away next turn and even more with what wasn't banned back then. That was what was special about that card like just about every other special one before it. You could bring it out just because your opponent controlled a monster and you didn't and it had 100 points over 2000 ATK. Even if it's a beatdown deck, this is absolutely nothing to get over with how slower things were back then and that Magic Cylinder was still something to worry about.

>>14144976

The problem was when shit started blurring in terms of how powerful it could be.

Cards like Blue-Eyes with a whopping 3000 ATK or Dark Magician with 2500 and its secret weapon cards required 2 monsters already having been on the field long enough being sacrificed? Perfect.

Curse of Dragon has at least 2000 ATK, which is stronger than any other monster just summoned on its own? Still good.

Jinzo locking all precious Trap cards and especially Caius removing anything on the fucking field from the game entirely no matter how powerful it is with good attack power just for 1 sacrifice? What the shit. Jinzo should have been 2800 and a Level 8 and Caius should have been Level 7 at least.

Fuck, I meant 2600 and Caius and other stronger Monarchs should have been Level 8. The balance of Yugioh in monster design was that if something has a nasty ability, it should be somewhat weaker and harder to bring out as a cost.

I don't know when that little dropped off. I hate it sometimes.

>>14146580

Nice cover.

Now if I wanted to build mermails would I be better off just buying the abyss rising booster box instead of singles, because the singles for mermails cost more than the boost box.

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