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It is a remake of a superior title.

>>13953988

He is absolutely right. The extra shit feels forced as fuck when compared to the original.

>>13954001

>I don't like this good feature that makes the game dynamic

Not an argument.

>>13954012

This is better than the original, which was clunky and Link was overweight.

>>13953985

3DS

>>13953988

FPBP

>>13953985

It's easy, all the items available at the start offering little surprise or sense of advancement through dungeons

Great game op, I found the overall game very smooth, responsive, loved the challenge dungeon.

Open world and being able to do a dungeon in any order at the expense of being horribly dumbed down and easy. At least it's pretty to look at. It's basically the skyrim of zeldas.

>>13954017

Alright faggot you want a serious response? Here's one for you.

The game is inferior in a number of ways. It removes a lot of the cool shit from the original for no perceivable reason. Where the fuck are the bombos, ether and quake medallions? The game as a whole is extremely casualized in its puzzles and its combat. If you've ever played a Zelda you will not have a game-over in it as fairies are plentiful as all fuck. You will never struggle for more than a 3-7 minutes max with a puzzle. The sense of exploration is reduced from the original as well due to how much of its identity is based off it, and the rewards are lessened as well. The additions also make it feel more "gamified" as opposed to a full experience (the survival minigame at the tower and the fucking baseball minigame, which was arguably the most challenging part about the game at all).

The game is too lighthearted. It feels like its for children, especially when compared to the original. The Dark World actually feels dark in Link to the Past. My heart was twisted when I found out about what happened to the flute kid after talking to his father. Lorule feels like a meme for the most part. Its decent, but only because it takes so much from the original, basically the entire world. You can tell how much care and effort went into crafting each screen of that fucking game. In this one it feels like they ported it to 3D, removed anything that might make it feel uncomfortable or lonely for kiddoes (you never feel alone in this game like you did in Link to the Past) and it just disappoints. The painting mechanic is okay but for the last boss it feels like a cheap sort of

"Hey look at this new mechanic we've added, pretty cool eh?!". It makes a 2.5D game feel one-dimensional in a manner of speaking when its overused in certain dungeons, which it is. They also changed much of the dungeon design for the worse precisely because of this "dynamic" design change you mentioned which ends up making it feel like easy as fuck shit to play through with nothing rewarding to it. Heart containers aren't fucking rewarding when I could get them in the original in much the same way, usually with tougher puzzles behind them and tougher enemies as well that actually made them rewarding.

Now don't get me wrong, I actually liked the game but these are all glaring flaws present inside of it.

>>13954082

I agree with you except for that last part. That title still belongs to breath of the wild.

>>13953991

>>>/todd/

>>13954094

The Skyrim of 2d Zeldas then.

>>13954100

Reasonable

>>13953988

𝕳𝖊𝖎𝖑 𝖁𝖎𝖈𝖙𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖆!

>Hyrule Warriors makes a wonderful high quality model of Young Link to get used in SFM porn

>everyone flocks to Twink from Breath of of the Skyrim

Suffering

>>13954151

>hella

Who the fuck do you think you are?

She's basically just Maple.

>>13953985

>Find a flaw.

It's a Zelda game. Zelda is a lame IP.

The essence of Zelda is and always have been having a grand adventure and saving the world from the ultimate evil. A Link Between Worlds takes as much liberty in the formula as BotW while still conserving the essence of it as well. Sounds more like you don't like BotW because it's popular, or more popular than ALBW. I give you that BotW doesn't have as much content as it should, but comparing it with Skyrim is retardad.

>All open world games are Skyrim

Comparing it with GTA is probably a lot more accurate, and then BotW manage to have enough mechanics of itself to be it's own thing.

The only thing I don't like is that I can't 100% it. That chicken minigame to unlock the big cucco will always be the TOUGHEST shit to unlock in ANY Zelda title.

A cucco that can show up in the ending credits, mind you, whose absence mocks my inability to do so without cheating.

>>13953988

Nice meme.

>>13954094

tl dr

>>13954189

tl;dr it's shit because it's made for casuals who want to say "I beat LttP too! XD"

>>13954189

druly ebig

This is fucking minigame was some Touhou motherfucking bullshit right here. The eternal bane of my completionist existence.

FUCK YOU, GIANT CUCCO

>>13954206

In addition Breath of The Wild was built from the ground up with the pickup/drop weapon system instead of just hoping you would at least get bumped off once per dungeon to lose your rental gear and follow the Dungeon Money curve cleanly which, if you are to make the comparison WAY BACK to the handheld Zeldas did not account for the player dying repeatedly into the money curve for the game.

The amount of nintentards on this board is horrifying.

>>13954230

Cry about it faggot, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

>>13954235

Until their dad takes their gameboys away.

>>13954206

>>13954217

The disposable items are mostly just for attacking/crafting though. The actual important stuff… (the runes you get during the beginning of the game.) Those are the same kind of items you'd rent from ravio or just find normally in any other Zelda dungeon. You're practically given everything you need within 30 minutes so it's not really done any better in my eyes. In fact it's a huge waste.

The one thing the game truly needed was having more important things to find in the overworld and actual dungeons to find them in. I don't care if it took them another year to get it done, it would have resulted in a much better game.

>>13954302

You would be right, but, there are several better ways to solve puzzles than the provided items, it doesn't exactly spell it out but there is a ridiculous amount of use you can get out of the boomerangs/hammers/Deku leaves/Chu Jellies.

>>13953985

making nearly every tool available in a shop made every chest either dosh or reagents for potions that you'll never need if you're any kind of decent

dungeons overfocus on their themed tool

most secret chambers on the overworld just lead to puzzles whose only reward is more dosh

good thing the gameplay is actually good or it'd be PH tier

>>13954409

It's entirely fair, considering making the game less complicated for casuals came at the expense of the utility of items.

>>13954413

>less complicated

it's just more intuitive and fun

>>13954328

Maybe, but I don't really see how that would get in the way with putting those runes to better use and making a better game overall… instead of just handing them to you.

>>13954422

It's by definition less intuitive.

It tells you what to do. Do you not know what intuition means?

>>13954435

Honestly, they REALLY shouldn't have given you all the runes at the start. If I could have made a change it would have been only putting the magnesis shrine on the Plateau.

>>13954461

Do what LBW did but instead of a store, hide the shit away. If you explore and do things correctly, you can go in any order

>>13954470

>>13954461

so, do what breath of the wild did

>>13954483

That's what I thought. It just seems like people are going to bitch no matter which way it goes. Too bad Nintendo can't just have an A and B series of Zelda, where one is 2D and has smaller, more frequent releases to please traditional fans. It always ends up as some puzzle gauntlet hybrid.

Also, just curious.

Anyone else think it's weird how Bombs were a rune in breath of the wild? Honestly a more sensible option to me seems to be having Bomb Flowers in the environment and harvestable. Especially when you consider that they bothered to put bomb arrows in.

>>13954549

it's because bombs are incredibly useful in that game and they didn't want you to spam them

making them a rune instead of a bomb flower allows more freedom of gameplay without allowing too much cheese

i'd go kill the gold lynel in the coliseum with three hearts right fucking now if i could just cheese the shit out of him with bombs

>>13954562

You can effectively have no cooldown if you upgraded your bombs and switch between the two, how exactly would having bombs as an item make them cheesable.

>>13954499

They need an A, B, and C branch of Zelda games.

3D open-world overworld with linear dungeons (that can be done out of order if you're good enough)

2D top-down games that are more traditional and

2D side-scrollers Zelda 2 style because it's a travesty there aren't more games like that and Battle of Olympus and that other one I always forget the name of.

>>13953985

Pretty good bait. Link between worlds is as much of a non-zelda game as BotW, but the latter is at least good at doing its own thing. Worlds is just

>We want to break the zelda formula because game journalists are bitching against the item system and the established order of dungeons

>So we'll just annihilate any notion of progression to placate them

>That will work great

If you like this abortion, you have no right of speaking like you like Zelda. Fuck off.

>>13954609

I feel like if they didn't do the dumb ass item rental thing, it would have been a much better game. It completely sapped any form of accomplishment and progression.

>>13954609

>botw did things right

feels like im alone, playing a dead, offline mmorpg. Already had that experience in skyrim.

Link between Worlds is actually a zelda game, it just gives you a bunch of items to play with at the start, way more fun and dymanic that way. Also the 2D painting mechanic is clever

>>13954666

The world did feel dead, but it kind of fit the narrative. It definitely should have had actual villages and farmlets instead of the stables though, and real indoor areas to explore. Although I'm loathe to mention it, being able to upgrade the little settlements so they could defend themselves at night would have been cool if it made more options available later, such as blacksmiths that can repair damaged weapons, or craft entirely new ones out of materials.

Instead we got what feels like a production test for a new Zelda game, and not the finished product.

>>13954477

Breat of the Wilderness has no items.

>it's the same fucking game for 30 years

>have to buy items

No, it's shit.

>>13953985

By allowing you to visit dungeons in any order, they made another, big, mistake: the game doesn't get harder as you go, but rather easier. Each dungeon in a tier is roughly the same difficulty level. As much as I love the idea of a game with almost no progression blockers aside from skill and a whole bunch of secrets, the game doesn't really use it to its advantage.

>>13954792

Yea..that one is definitely up there. I still cry. =(

The buying dungeon items mechanic seemed neat in concept since it allowed you do do them in any order you wanted, but it actually holds the game back because the game needs to assume any dungeon could be the players first which removes any difficulty curve and dungeons have to be designed with puzzles that only ever use the associated item, resulting in them being really bland.

>from some Zelda wiki

>if the 999.99 second limit is reached, the Cucco Girl will stop Link and comment about how he managed to dodge all the Cuccos for such an amount of time, giving him the title of the Cucco Master and 3,000 Rupees. A large Cucco will then appear outside the ranch which only comes out in a blue moon, throwing hearts at Link if he gets close and talks to it. This [giant cucco] is also shown in the end credits.

It only appears for like 2 seconds in the credits. I know that something so insignificant shouldn't matter so much to me. BUT GODAMMIT, IT DOES! I loved this game and it pains me that I haven't 100 percented it yet.

Still though. The more I think about this game, the more fond memories come to mind. Like when Ravio revealed himself at the end, I found myself laughing a little because the reveal caught me way off guard. Or like the moment how I fully didn't trust Thief Girl at first (ALttP players should know why), only to have my expectations toyed with yet again.

The game simply just didn't feel like your typical, usual cash grab. It felt like a nostalgic love letter to anyone who loved A Link to the Past, all the way through to the end.

>>13954013

>buying an item to skip through a dungeon like a filthy whale is better than exploring a dungeon until you find the treasure you need to progress

I bet you also believe that Battlefront II dindu nuffin wrong.

>>13953985

How old are you, OP?

>>13955019

Do you think she ever farts while link is riding behind her? Haha what do you think the farts smell like haha?

>>13955040

why does that matter

>>13955067

Why are you afraid to say?

>>13955067

Enjoy your ban.

>>13955076

why are you afraid to explain why that matters

>>13955083

20? Too high or too low?

>>13953985

I love pretty much every Zelda game, but this one kind of disappointed me.

>Muh non-linear progression meant I wandered into the "hardest" dungeon first, so the others felt especially anti-climactic.

>And even that dungeon was felt easier than anything from Wind Waker, often claimed to be the easiest Zelda game

>Dungeon design was just okay

>Boss fights were not especially creative and way too short

<Actually kind of liked Lorule though, I wonder if I'll see Hilda ever again

<Painting link was kinda neat

<Cute witch

I wouldn't say it's terrible, but it's easily the weakest entry in the series. But I still don't understand how anyone could play this and seriously say "Wow that was the best Zelda so far", which leads me to believe this is probably the only Zelda you've ever played.