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What's the best Pokemon game, Emerald or HeartGold.

>>13953711

If it weren't for the awkward level scaling of wild Pokemon, Heartgold hands-down.

>>13953699

>realistically you're not going to be at a level where you can do competitive outside of Pokemon Showdown.

what does this mean? Whats pokemon showdown, hows it different than online battles?

>>13953711

Blaxk/White 2

>>13953711

platinum is the best pokemon game

Ultra S/M are "upgraded" versions of S/M (like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, etc., not sequels like BW2). If you want to play online then definitely get Ultra Sun since you have more options, or just play on Showdown so you won't have to run in a circle breeding shit for weeks until RNG deems you worthy though you will have to deal with a fan-made meta banning everything except Landorus. Showdown is popular enough to get you a match damn near instantly at any elo in any format, but there are enough players on the actual game to get matches quickly too.

Only thing I'd get Ultra Sun/Moon for is Necrozma and catching starters. The retarded nostalgiafag callback to shitty mafia wannabe fag rockets and the shitty lame villain with a shit team on top of the Legendary exclusives and all the other Pokemon I've seen not in the game is a dealbreaker.

How's Moon in terms of content? I want Midnight Lycanroc and my Alolan Sandshrew. I'm gonna go the whole game not evolving Rowlett because I like it more than its evolutions and it'll ensure I at least get some challenge.

OP, please don't crosspost, that isn't nice

>>13953755

whats the difference between showdown and other online battles?

can regular Sun players fight Ultra Sun players online?

>>13953720

It's an online simulator, so you don't need to play the game or breed your mons, just create a team and play with it or play randomized battles

>>13953734

>Black

My nigga

>>13953720

www.pokemonshowdown.com

It's an online battle site. A lot of people on the competitive scene use it to test teams without wasting preparing/catching/breeding mons.

>what does this mean?

Red/Blue had a barebones system in place compared to what's used in anything today.

>The ridiculously stupid base stat growth used in them was replaced with EVs (basically if you beat fast Pokemon you get points to make your Speed faster, same with the other stats)

>The Special stat was split into Special Attack and Special Defense. Which stat is used for damage is no longer dependent on the type for the attack, so you can have things like a viable Fire type with a strong (physical) Attack.

>Pokemon have abilities that need to be accounted for, but you only really need to learn the top used mons if you're starting out.

>The official competitive scene is in Double Battles, but a community called Smogon has their own rules for handling Single Battles that has its own massive scene.

>Pokemon can hold items that give passive effects, such as giving an immunity to Ground type attacks until struck with an attack (Balloon) or increasing power of a certain type of attack. Two types of these are notable icons of their generations:

>Mega-Evolution stones give some Pokemon powered-up forms of themselves with new stats and abilities. Since these are so powerful, you're limited to one Pokemon mega-evolving per battle.

>Z-Crystals are pretty much the same thing, but with types of attacks and in some rare cases some specific attacks. You are allowed one Z-move per battle.

>Weather, a Gold/Silver/Crystal mechanic is widespread and has passive abilities on certain mons, usually type and/or ability-dependent. Introduction of one type of weather cancels an existing one out

>Terrain is gaining popularity, which is similar.

>Three types have been introduced since Gen 1: Dark, Steel, and Fairy. Dark is basically Ghost 2.0. Steel is a defensive powerhouse, and Fairy is one of the most OP types in the game.

Did I miss anything?

>>13953711

BW2

>>13953772

thanks man, good info

i need to research these games more, so different than red/blue

>>13953795

Thanks but I like the look of the new 3ds games and not interested in romhacks and playing on my pc.

>>13953805

Then pick up R/B/Y or G/S on the eshop instead, the 3DS games aren't worth the time even if you get them for free.

>>13953816

> R/B/Y or G/S

do those still have online battle communities for the 3ds? My friends don't play pokemon irl, and I want to battle and trade online with ppl.

>>13953816

They added local wifi capabilities to the GB Pokemon games? That's cool.

>>13953835

thanks.

Guess I'll go with Ultra then.

>>13953835

People said there was no fucking difference several weeks ago sans a shitty story.

>>13953821

No only local battles/training.

If you want online battling go with pokemon showdown. You'll get all the online battling you want without having to spend 40 dollars on a bad game or having to spend 20 hours in a linear easy single player mode riddled with cut scenes.

The 3DS games are a big fucking waste of time and money, you might as well be playing pokemon go because the 3DS games are borderline mobile game quality.

>>13953874

Yes. Gen 6/7 are so fucking linear they make gen 3-5 look like open world games in comparison.

>>13953711

Mystery dungeon explorers of darkness

>>13953892

How is being linear a bad thing? It's not as if every game needs to be a self-insert power-fantasy.

>>13953835

A friend of mine said its really good which annoys me. I hope he was just wrong and his taste shit because I played regular Sun and it fucking sucks. It was so handholdy that I put it down after 5 hours and did something else. I was not sure if I was still in the tutorial area or not because jesus fucking christ that game is slow and tedious

>>13953907

Linear is bad if it makes the world look pathetically small and only there for checkpoints.

>>13953916

>slow and tedious

pokemon isn't a fast paced game

>>13953925

Not since gen 4, no. Doesn't make it any less insulting

>>13953907

It's not a bad thing until the designers actively restrict player and force them to go.

Gen 1/2: You got a clear route but there is some sequence breaking you can do

Gen 3/4/5: Linear progression, but you're allowed to go off the beaten track

Gen 6: Linear but no hand holding where you want to got

Gen 7: HEY ASSHOLE WHERE ARE YOU GOING, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO THERE. FOLLOW THE FUCKING MAP. WHAT YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT AREA WHERE YOU JUST WERE? TOUGH SHIT ASSHOLE IT'S CUTSCENE TIME. OH DON'T WORRY I'LL HOLD YOUR HAND THE WHOLE WAY.

>>13953914

>why are you so bitter?

Because gen 6/7 are complete utter trash design for the mobile audience, and supporting it actively leads the franchise deeper into mobile waters

>>13953925

I'm well aware it isn't a fast-paced game but this is fucking molasses-tier, now fuck off you apologist

>>13953711

Pokemon Ranger

>>13953947

maybe you should go back to Caw O' Duty

>>13953990

Maybe you should kill yourself nigger

>>13953976

>press "No"

How does that invalidate the complaint?

>>13954171

He's complaining that you can't regress areas. The only areas I can think of with the exception of the Tapu Koko postgame encounter in Gen 7 where you can accidentally wonder into without signage that would force you into an area have a prompt before you cross into them unlike, say, that ledge after Mt. Moon in Route 4 keeping you in Cerulean City.

>>13953687

If you want to play competitively, I'd recommend Pokemon Showdown. If you're looking for the whole Pokemon experience (in the latest generation), Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon is my recommendation. From what I've seen, it's not a sequel like BW2, but more of an upgrade of the original Sun/Moon. More content added. Many joke that Sun/Moon was essentially a paid beta test, and that Ultra is the finished product.

While there is an official battle scene broken up into seasons, be aware that the Pokemon community has no qualms with cheating and hacking. Breeding the perfect Pokemon is very tedious (it has become easier over the years), and players will take shortcuts to avoid hours of grinding and breeding.

While I didn't care that much for Sun/Moon, I encourage other fans to play it for themselves and make their own opinion. I know fans who love gen 7. There are parts gen 7 I really like, but other parts that ruined the experience for me. Just personal preference.

>>13954421

what do you prefer to play now and what about gen 7 ruined the experience for u?

I understand the hate for Gen 7. One reason I pirated Ultra Moon but can't bring myself to play it is the long, boring, unskippable cutscenes. Most pokemon games bar your progress, but none of them bar your progress and force you to sit through 5-10 straight minutes of full motion cutscenes involving paper-thin characters you don't give a single fuck about, so you can watch your main character look at everything with an unmoving, unchanging face.

A cutscene skip button would have fixed my major issue from Sun/Moon. It's a shame Gamefreak seems to think their shit is made of gold and even people who already saw the fucking plot from the first game need to sit through it again.

>>13953687

Ultra has much more content, you'd be missing a lot. The ultra wormholes let you catch just about any legendary and you have probably the best chance of finding shinies in any pokemon game so far. Still probably the low point for the series as a whole.

Don't worry about online there's plenty of people playing at all levels.

Also why did you make that image for this thread

Get none, they are easy and gay.