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When I first played it, way back on the PS1 release, I couldn't figure out how to use Sabin's blitz attacks for the life of me and thus never got past Vargas. It was poorly explained.

It was a pretty good game, but the difficulty was trivial and the esper system of growth advancement was poorly implemented. Also way too many bugs, though some of them are pretty fun to destroy the game with. I prefer Brave New World to vanilla. I consider it basically the quintessential way to play the game. I wish all games got great romhacks like that.

I liked it when it first came out. Loved it. But that was long ago.

I have no idea how younger people can play through such comparatively bad gameplay now.

Is it a rite of passage thing?

I like how Kefka's final boss fight is made a total joke due to a single typo in his programming.

His offense stats are supposed to be 80 Attack & 80 Magic Power, but instead it's 80 attack power and & just 8 Magic Power.

All of his damage-dealing attacks except Havoc Wing and his generic attack scale off of Magic Power.

This never got fixed in any of the ports.

Doesnt help that his attacks do split damage(IE: an 4000 damage attack will do 1000 damage to each of the 4 party members, instead of 4000 damage each)

>>13927969

High water mark for the series. Prepare for semi-sci-fi garbage for basically the rest of the series if you haven't played them yet.

needed more magitek armor segments

Or something like the vehicle system in Metal Max, but with the magitek armors

>>13927969

>get all the espers

>go to the tower of magi

>random encounters in tower of magi only provide AP

>autistically grind that shit with every character and esper combination until they learn all the spells

>rasp

<ultima

>rasp

<ultima

>rasp

<ultima

>everything is dead

I thought it was great, although the esper system is sort of broken. Zozo has pretty good music.

>>13928144

>ff5 is dog shit

nah gay

process*

Also, I can type and do speak English. I had to much coffee.

>>13928193

Did you farm an economizer for every character? Did you farm an entire imp set and beat the game as imps?

Apply yourself.

>>13928220

>I can type and do speak English

>to much coffee

Who're you trying to fool here.

Best Final Fantasy

>>13928223

no, just lvl 99 & ultima duh!

I am not autistic :^)

it was okay. i liked FFIV way better though

>>13928735

My favorite party was Edgar, Strago, Sabin and Cyan.

Give Cyan a Quick spell, Strago on support, Sabin suplexing all day, and Edgar pulling OP gadget shit out his ass for free. Don't even really need espers all that much.

>>13928735

Personally, I just Rasped the Cultist Tower Boss until he ran out of mana and an hero'd.

>>13928770

That would probably help speed it up, because it takes a sandwichsworth amount of time for him to deplete his own magic.

Is it just me or was Gau really…underpowered? His special ability seemed incredibly situational.

>>13928152

>muh boj stystem

>>13928796

you have to experiment with him, in the original game he was seriously overpowered because of a Rage for the Stray cat, which allowed him to attack 4 times, while compounded with a weapon that rather frequently hit all enemies with an extra attack, normally only usable by Cyan. In the remakes this was fixed, but his Rages are still fucking crazy with the Master's Scroll.

most are crap, but Stray Cat allows attacks up to 4 times, and with the master scroll that's 16 since it counts as a physical attack, nothing to scoff at, even when Gau can't equip anything. downside is that only physical specials can be used.

Used to be he could equip two swords with a merit award, and this included the wind katanas that more then occasionally did wind attacks on every enemy at once as well as physical attacks. Look up Wind God Gau.

>>13928796

Gau is ok I guess.

>>13928077 (checked)

first I've heard of this typo ting. the important question - is there a ROM hack that fixes this? I'm getting the hankering to replay 1-10 again for nostalgia's sake.

>>13927969

Incredible game, OP. It was during the Golden Years of Squaresoft before the Enix merger and the downfall that we are still witnessing today.

off-topic art piece

>>13927969

Good game to this time

Some tropes are overused but when this was made it was something new

You can do many things to change details on the game despite it being so linear

The way everything develop feels nice

The music is very characteristic and the MP lasts enough for you to find a save point, that makes it not very challenging but then again it is fun even without that challenge

RIP General Leo.

Also, the Opera theme probably is one of the most timeless pieces of video game music to have ever been produced.

>>13928891

OP here, I nearly did the same thing as shown in this vid to win. Setzer with imp gear, fixed dice, offering and black belt = average of over 20000 damage every attack, countering enemy attacks and perfect physical defence.

Terra's theme chokes me up to this very day

>>13929065

It's Searching for Friends that gets me. The moment it starts playing for the first time is the moment you realize it isn't all over and there's still a sliver of hope for a dying world. And of course it's also when the final dungeon becomes accessible and you're actually able to confront Kefka.

>>13927969

It was alright. But the clumsy game design was disappointing, especially after the terrific FF5.

6 is the crown jewel of the series. Not that 7 is bad, but it's definitely overrated. Kefka beats the absolute shit out of Sephiroth, the characters are much better, the World of Balance/Ruin shift was completely unexpected, and the way the latter half of content was built was excellent. 7 owes much of its fame to marketing:

>first 3D Final Fantasy

>Square and Sony teamed up to market as a launch title with huge advert budget

>the shift from carts to CDs

>'what happened to 4, 5, and 6?' inquiry makes the game instantly famous

Again, 7 isn't bad. I just think 6 was deeper and more complex. I do enjoy how customizable the materia system is, though.

>>13928896

I wish there was one, but I haven't heard of anything. There are so many ridiculous glitches to take advantage of and so much cut content.

>invisible 100% magic hit Doom/X-Zone

>status swapping

>stat typos

>magic evade does nothing, tied to evasion

>Kaiser Dragon

A solid ROM hack could fix all of these, clean up whatever translation errors there might be, and possibly add in the GBA extra content into the SNES version.

>>13928735

Edgar, Terra, Locke, Celes

I wouldn't play it again without the brave new world patch or something because of all the balance problems that make all combat a joke except for a couple of puzzle fights. I think most, if not every final fantasy game is seriously let down by this.

But the story, cast and all the neat stuff you can do in the world of ruin mean it's still a fine game without, especially the first time playing it.

Like most Final Fantasy games, VI is a game with a fair bit of depth, all of which is completely pissed away on being far too easy.

>>13928077

No fucking way. Provide proof.

>>13928727

Because you can cast ultima 99 times in a row per character without doing anything else

I've played every main single player game except for 3 and 8. 6 is the only one I couldn't finish. It just seems so fucking boring. I've tried to play it twice now and just can't do it.

>>13928212

At least you're honest about having shit taste.

the best final fantasy

>>13928910

Why not three for the price of one?

>>13930649

FF7 at the time was a excellent game. Personally it is my favorite FF after 6. The thing with re makes though is that 7 really dosent need it, it still holds up fine, the music is good the graphics are fine, sure theres shit that could be expanded on, especially minor shit like the scale soldier shit, or the rts mini game, but its really fine as is. 6 however could have much more added, from cut content like the czar dragon to better character building for some characters like mog, umaro or gogo. Really though none of the ff games need remaking or re imagining. They were all good for the time and they are still fine.

FFVII is a 7/10 at best and here's why:

1. The game is far too easy. Even with the very limited resources of a low-level playthrough running from every random battle, the game really struggles to provide genuinely challenging bosses. It does not do enough to encourage the player to take advantage of its strategic depth, and as a result said depth is fairly inconsequential and wasted as a source of replay variety.

2. Too much unskippable exposition between real gameplay chunks. Not an unexpected feature for an RPG but I levy the criticism whenever it's a problem.

It gets a 7/10 instead of a 6/10 because it has a strong array of side questing. Too bad they don't last beyond that singular 100% playthrough experience that everyone does once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMDXxFcpv-M

This part of the song is so glorious.

>>13943017

FFVII is a 5/10 if you're not a nip.

So who do you think are the best arena fighters?

>Celes wastes a lot of turns in Runic and has a few spells she learns automatically, drastically reducing her potential, but her gear is godlike

>Terra keeps trying to Morph all the fucking time, also has spells and has godlike gear

>Locke just steals all the fucking time

>Edgar uses his dumb tools, can be mitigated by not buying/looting any of them

>Cyan uses shitty Sword Techs

>Sabin is trash tier because he uses awful Blitz, usually killing himself

>Shadow is trash tier because he throws all your shit away and forces endless reloads, but Interceptor is god tier

>Gau, Umaro, Gogo, Relm, Strago: just no

>Setzer has god awful weapons, but can Gil Toss which doesn't completely waste a turn

>>13943639

>Gogo

>no

Actually it's Gogo. Just set Tools twice.

>not playing the original version in Japanese, on the Super Famicom with a CRT as the developers intended

Fucking pleb stop playing games at all of you can’t even do it right

>>13931070

I couldn't finish it at first because i didn't have a manual at the time so i never figured out how to use that one guy's combos. I had to read a FAQ later to explain to me when you're supposed to actually put in the inputs.

>>13928109

i get that, when i first saw the screenshots of the game back in the day i imagined the magitek armors would be a bigger deal in the game mechanics

>nobody talking about FFXII, the actual best FF

Heh, plebs abound as usual i see

>>13927969

I liked the way you can choose a few chapters in which order to play them, but I thought in every other way but graphics it was a stepdown from V. Focusing so heavily on characters again instead of a job system felt so limiting, and the esper system is grind galore. I'd argue that it has the best musif of the non-CD games.

>>13952211

low tier bait

I saw a screenshot of Final Fantasy III online and it looked like nothing I'd ever played before, I had my parents buy a used copy at Funcoland. As my first JRPG it was incredible, even the intro was amazing, probably the only cinematic thing I'd ever played. I couldn't think of anything else until I beat it. My cousin would come over and we'd play it together, he also thought it was amazing.

>>13952401

It was one of the last games to give magic memories to people that make you realize the potential video games have. Both FFVI and Chrono Trigger did this for me, and they're the only two I feel this way about.

Combat is a bit of a mess. There's loads of characters that have gimmicks to them that are not very useful.

>Terra can transform into a pink werewolf for a few seconds but that hardly makes a difference.

>Locke can steal things but there's nothing useful to steal in the entire game

>Edgar has tools which become obsolete late in the game.

>Sabin has fighting game combos that are a pain in the ass to input.

>Cyan takes forever to charge up his techs.

>Celes is like Terra except she can't transform but she can use magic just like Terra (and everybody else once you get magicite so whoop-de-doo!)

>Gau has the goofiest and quirkiest out of any FF party member.

>Relm is shit

>Strago is shit

>Umaro is ironically quite useful because you don't really need magic and summons all that much: you can just spam regular attacks and win.

>There's a whole mess of others I can't really remember.

When it comes to gameplay: FFX really sorted that out by making each character actually fulfill a role.

>>13943639

>Sabin is trash tier because he uses awful Blitz, usually killing himself

I imagine everyone has experienced this once that's played through the game.

of the 4 I've played, ff7, 9, 10 - 6 has to be the worst. Worst characters, stupidest story moments, and most boring combat

the game has a sort of charm only a lonely teenager can appreciate.

the game is good if you have strong imagination because on the surface its a walking simulator with 10/10 visuals/music/atmosphere.

it is only fun only if you tinker with the battle system and impose extra difficulty.

if you care about the plot you will end up rushing through battles to see the next cutscene which makes it boring because battles are really easy due to espers.

vid related is the purest manifestation of an autistic FF fan, but he does make a good analysis.

>>13963142

well, in case of terra's trance thing, I forget what affects the length, but you can make it last quite long, if you just reserve it for boss fights.

>>13963142

>Locke can steal things but there's nothing useful to steal in the entire game

Genji gear?

>>13964073

Holy shit, you weren't kidding about the autism.