717466 No.13922974
Now that it's winter and the sun is gone it's time to play stealth games.
Which thief games/mods/fan missions are worth playing and in which order?
Any other good stealth games?
b9a75e No.13923097
>>13922974
Thief is above average, Thief 2 is below average, Thief 3 is average, Thief 4 is terrible. Go play Thief, Thief 3, and then Styx.
bce65d No.13923173
>play hitman
>quit in the jungle mission out of boredom
One day I should try the rest, I only remember Blood Money being the one that gets praised all the time and absolution being the most hated one.
b9a75e No.13923196
>>13923173
Blood Money is solid, and still holds up today. The first three are extremely clunky, so if you couldn't get into them, give BM a chance.
1d9474 No.13923198
>>13922974
if games order i suggest thief gold, thief 2, t2x, t3.
when it comes to fan missions order, i first played mostly t1 fan missions, then moved to mostly t2 fan missions, but i still find some bretty good t1 mission. when it comes which is worth, picrel (sorry for colors, i dont have original pictures) + links below
http://thiefmissions.com/search.cgi?sort=rating&search=#m look by rating
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106781 here u can look for a map that can potentially interest you, detailed list by types.
037f26 No.13923219
>>13923173
The last Hitman is pretty good, really a worthy sequel of blood money and it's now complete so you can boot up your torrent client and pirate it
Blood money is a classic
The first Hitman has that shitty life and save system, it didn't really aged well
The second one is pretty good too, can't remember much about the third
Absolution is absolute dog shit, the disguises are useless and most missions are linear
a276af No.13923229
>>13923173
Blood Money is not only the best Hitman game but also hands-down one of the best stealth games ever.
717466 No.13923392
>>13923198
Those are all for T1?
Is Deadly shadows T3?
1d9474 No.13923421
>>13923392
t1/t2 depends on the icon in the corner.
yes, deadly shadows is t3 and t2x is www.thief2x.com/
717466 No.13923474
>>13923421
How's t2x different and where does the dark mod fit in?
1d9474 No.13923520
>>13923474
t2x is a fan unofficial campaign set somewhere between t1 and t2, with a different protagonist, but its better to play it after t2 because it mentions characters from t2, so you know whats up. Different, adds interesting mechanic to the arrows, but overall its a set of well designed maps, has a story, even cutscenes with voice over.
Dark mod is not on thief engine, it has few nice missions, but big issue i have with it is that original thiefs have great sound engine, dark mod lacks on that department. Sound is very important in thief, because game is fpp, you often use sound to determine where the enemy is. I like lockpicking in dark mod tho, its like a small sound puzzle.
Anyway, dark mod, worth checking? yes, but on the long run, stick to thief1/2.
To keep everything nice and clean use DarkLoader
c0ea2b No.13923545
I imagine a game where you play as Santa would be stealth by default, since you have to sneak in houses to leave presents and not get caught by anyone.
717466 No.13923577
>>13923520
>>13923521
Thanks for the info anons.
>>13923545
This is actually not a bad game idea.
a276af No.13923629
>>13923545
Isn't that basically what that Burger King game was except with fast food instead of presents?
ac26bb No.13923832
>>13923196
Blood Money's also the easiest, in case you're casual.
353a35 No.13923877
>>13923545
That actually sounds really fun.
9ef60c No.13923927
>>13922974
Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow is fucking great!
I also enjoy stealthing in FPS-multiplayer-games.
9ef60c No.13923937
>>13923545
>Side Objective: Get the cookies and drink the milk
353a35 No.13923958
>>13923937
Maybe you drop a present every time you're caught, and you're scored at the end of each level based on how many presents you dropped versus how many made it under the Christmas tree.
Your stealth gadgets are made in Santa's workshop.
You can choose to land your sleigh in the yard for a quieter landing, or on the roof to let you get in and out quickly, but at the risk of having more alert family members, since they heard the noise of the landing on the roof.
Seriously, how has nobody made this game yet?
cb19a8 No.13924118
>>13923173
Blood Money is very good. If you want more of it, play Hitman 2016 with almost all of the gameplay features disabled in the settings. It had gorgeous, large levels except Colorado, fuck that one and it has a lot of challenges for replayability. It also has Elusive Targets, which is both great and a load of shit at the same time since they're calendar-based. Still, good game and I honestly prefer it over Blood Money.
>>13923927
>Pandora Tomorrow
It's alright, but it's a lot of the same. I stopped midway through because it just felt too much like the first one.
353a35 No.13924238
>>13924118
Same. Pandora Tomorrow is overrated. It's OK, but it's basically just an expansion pack.
Chaos Theory felt like a sequel, and it's hands-down the best Splinter Cell game.
f6c6a8 No.13924289
>>13923097
Thief 2 feels like a mission pack to Thief 1 with few steampunk gimmicks added in. So how is it supposed to be worse than the consolized Thief 3? Explain your stance or be revealed as trying to stir shit.
1820e0 No.13924342
>>13923196
>The first three are extremely clunky
872431 No.13924428
Styx: Master of Shadows is fucking fantastic. Rough around the edges, sure, but the atmosphere and story are top-notch and despite gameplay being a bit clunky it is overall a superb game. Shards of Darkness is cleaned up, the graphics are high quality UE4 stuff, the gameplay is a lot smoother and better overall, however the atmosphere (still excellent) isn't quite as good, the story is nowhere near as good, and the game is littered with pop-culture crap that breaks immersion constantly.
Personally I highly recommend MoS. It's right up there with the Dark Engine Thief games, in my opinion. SoD is better than 95% of stealth games but I honestly felt it tarnished my enjoyment of MoS somewhat when playing it later, much as Thief DS did to the Dark Engine Thief games.
3d8f69 No.13924524
Mark of the Ninja is pretty good.
211911 No.13924552
>>13924428
>Styx: Master of Shadows
I don't know how you can say the game is fantastic while half of your sentence about it is just citing pretty noteworthy flaws.
anyway, play this if you haven't. or the PS2 original.
872431 No.13924568
>>13924552
I'm not surprised to see a weeaboo recommending japshit can't tell the difference between "fantastic" and "flawless".
4c6a7a No.13924801
>>13923521
Here's the updated dark mod one.
Also, dark mod 2.06 is in beta right now. It features new soft shadows and a 64 bit version. Food heals now, too.
cb19a8 No.13925411
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So what's the best stealth game that isn't Sneak King?
7ea4ba No.13925449
>>13923229
>A game with barely any sneaking at all
>Best stealth game
db5aa1 No.13925453
>>13925449
>sneaking and stealth are the same thing
353a35 No.13925484
>>13925411
>Thief II
>Chaos Theory
>Blood Money
Play them. Then you can join the rest of us in lamenting the genre's near-death like and getting mad when people call any game with optional sneaking a "stealth game."
Kill me.
353a35 No.13925489
>>13925484
>near-death like
That "like" shouldn't be there. I think I might have brain damage.
7ea4ba No.13925500
>>13925453
I didn't say that. I said if your game barely has any sneaking then it's hardly a stealth game let alone the best. In bloodmoney once you get the best disguise (there are only 2 tiers and you have 2 knockout syringes making it easy as fuck to get silent assassin on most levels) it's basically an adventure game because you can go wherever you want with no repercussions. Unlike hitman 2 where you actually had to avoid guards a little because they could see through your disguise if you walked right up to them
31529a No.13925512
Just started playing Styx for the first time. It's kicking my ass and I love it.
cb19a8 No.13925799
>>13925484
>Play them
Anon…
I already did.
353a35 No.13927274
>>13925799
Then why are you asking questions that you already know the answer to?
fc7ddb No.13927425
>>13922974
Mark of the Ninja. You won't regret it.
097e68 No.13927475
>>13924238
> it's hands-down the best Splinter Cell game.
my nigger
b7365c No.13928594
>>13923958
I don't know why but it would be a pretty fun game. You land in the yard, you have to pick a spot to climb the ladder onto the roof and you have to pick a smart spot to not get spotted from windows or passing by cars.
Then you can add tougher levels with things like the family dog can't get awakened, security alarm-system needs to be temporarily shut down (don't want to let burglars in either). Or you get something really big like a canoe you have to lay under the tree somehow.
Also add a timer on you for the hardcore-mode, because you need to get to everyones houses before christmas is over.
719d64 No.13928643
Hitman 2016 is the best stealth game.
f27813 No.13928941
>>13928643
It has a hotel level right? Hotel levels were my favourites in Blood money and Contracts.
073634 No.13928991
>>13927475
one of these days we gotta summon up the ridiculous amount of autism needed to set-up, relearn, and play chaos theory spies vs mercs. That mode was fucking amazing
4a7f50 No.13929271
>>13928991
It was a pretty good game mode but i always prefered playing the coop campaign with a friend. We would play it every so often and have loads of fun. then he got a gf and stopped playing videogames
3ac2f0 No.13929299
What would you like to see in a stealth game? Personally I'd love to see a game where you could crawl up walls and ceilings like Catwoman, except that you're limited by stamina while doing so and hanging on too long will cause you to fall off.
c782aa No.13929369
Any good stealth games for the ps3?
27f8e2 No.13929435
>>13924342
>The first three are extremely clunky
>Silent Assassin
>Contracts
>clunky
Who let >>>/reddit/ in here?
353a35 No.13929638
>>13928594
You could have a slow-time mode as a power. It would also help explain how you get to everyone's house in one night. And your bag could have some kind of function, though I'm not sure what–it's basically a bag of holding.
a276af No.13929666
>>13929299
I'd like to see a stealth game that revolves around not being detected, period. I want a game where a museum guard getting a good look at you doesn't provoke a 30-second game of cat and mouse, but instead causes the guard to radio in that they've got an intruder in the building trying to steal the macguffin and then his buddy in the command center hits the big red button and all of a sudden security gates crash down and the lights come up and you're fucked.
I think it could work well as a cyberpunk game, honestly, just for the massive toolbox that you could have. I'd like a game that revolves as much around picking kit, gathering intel and planning as much as it does around the actual mission - if you notice heat sensors, for example, you could use that information to pick a skin replacement whose temperature can be controlled as well as a rebreather to stop your exhalations from being noticed. If you think that a grappling gun attachment for your prosthetic arm would be more useful than a riot prod attachment for your synthetic arm, go for it. I think that the player should be able to tackle things however they want, all the way from Hitman-style impersonation to a smash and grab ending in a gunfight to a European Extreme-tier flawless victory. Unfortunately this is all very firmly filed under "pipe dream" because it would be a monstrously complicated and detailed game.
353a35 No.13929692
>>13929666
You could always play one of the ten thousand action games with insta-fail stealth sections. It's terrible design and indicative of your shit taste, but it's not like what you're describing is hard to find.
353a35 No.13929695
>>13929666
>>13929692
Also, you can turn on insta-fail in NuThief.
c89093 No.13930022
>Great Stealth Games everyone should play
Thief 1
Thief 2
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Splinter Cell: Double Agent (Xbox version)
Hitman: Contracts
Hitman: Blood Money
Commandos 2: Men of Courage
Hidden and Dangerous 2
The Operative: No One Lives Forever
>Still damn good stealth games anyone who likes the genre should play
Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines
Commandos: Beyond the Call of Duty
Commandos: Suddenly We're Fucking Cowboys Desperados: Wanted Dead or Alive
Splinter Cell 1
Styx: Master of Shadows
Mark of the Ninja
Thief: Deadly Shadows (just make sure to get the fan-patch that removes the loading zones inside missions)
NuHitman, though the shit-tier business model is a major downside
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
Death to Spies
Death to Spies: Moment of Truth
Manhunt
>Fine stealth games that are still worth playing once you've run out of other shit to try
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow (really the only thing it has over 1 is whistling and the meme-train)
Splinter Cell: Conviction (terrible SC game, halfway decent 'predator stealth' game)
The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
Metal Gear 1 (note: MGS is not really a stealth series, MG was)
Metal Gear 2
Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Hitman: Codename 47
Hitman 2: Silent Assassin
Styx 2
Commandos 3: Destination Berlin
Commandos: Strike Force (it's sort of half-decent even if it was a complete genre-shift for better sales)
Sniper Elite 1
Manhunt 2
No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way
>Shit that you shouldn't bother with
Splinter Cell: Double Agent (next-gen version) this would be one rank higher if it wasn't so fucking buggy as to often be unfinishable
Splinter Cell: LENS FLARE AND GADGETS AND GUNS AND TITS AND MARK-AND-TRACK Blacklist
Thief 4
Hitman: Absolution
Alekhine's Gun/Death to Spies 3
Most indieshit 'stealth' games (particularly if they claim to be roguelikes/roguelites)
Anything missing? I wanted to include Hidden & Dangerous 1 but I think that just falls outside of stealth unlike the sequel which really lent more towards stealthy shit. Similarly the Sly Cooper games probably don't count despite being really quite good.
c89093 No.13930034
>>13930022
Oh and The Dark Mod obviously belongs in that list, probably under Great but I honestly haven't kept up with the fan missions and it's pretty much reliant on those.
ac26bb No.13930076
>>13930022
What do you think of Manhunt 2?
ac26bb No.13930086
>>13930076
nevermind saw it
ae152f No.13930095
>>13929369
No, but there’s a great movie that came out for it. I think it’s called Metal Gear Solid 4
3df75b No.13930127
>>13930022
<sa2 below og splinter cell
I have doubts
4c6a7a No.13930211
>>13923520
I'm unsure about the technical differences between how Thief and TDM handle sound propagation, but it does try to emulate it. How well the sound propagation is handled, though, is entirely up to the FM maker.
8e8d39 No.13930358
>>13930022
>NOLF 1/2
>A good stealth title
That is factually incorrect. Still great games though.
209771 No.13933753
>>13930022
I'd probably bump Silent Assassin up a rank but otherwise it looks fine.
>>13930358
1 is more espionage than stealth but I'd probably allow it.
36e235 No.13933763
>>13933753
the sneaking in either nolf game is just shit in general. I think the only reason people pretend those games are any good is because of the setting/style which is really, really really hit or miss. Every time I see someone mention it as something good it feels incredibly disingenuous.
b07fd2 No.13933974
>>13930022
Shadow Tactics is pretty good a bit short tough.
35ecfa No.13934087
>>13924568
>Disregarding Shinobido as just japshit
0af198 No.13943037
>>13923545
>play dick claus trying to leave a "present" in the womans womb without her husband or her kids waking up
I'd play it
209771 No.13943966
>>13943335
>Metal Gear Solid
>Looks much more like Metal Gear gameplay
Nani?
209771 No.13943975
a1af93 No.13944003
>>13923097
>T3 is better than T2
Worst post I've read all day.
8a5078 No.13944021
Im currently playing Styx 2
My only complaint is how fucking ugly the dark elf city is, i miss human castles and cities
75d261 No.13953046
I thieved thief but i can't save because the saver folder is read only and everytime i remove it it switches back instantly.
a112fd No.13959267
How do you replay missions in thief1?
Is there a mission selector?
70fcd5 No.13959326
Commandos is a kind of a stealth series.
4c6a7a No.13959373
>>13959267
As far as I know there isn't a way to select missions directly, but you can start a new game and while playing press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+End and it skips the current mission. There's only about 12 missions so it shouldn't take too long, at least.
209771 No.13961003
>>13959326
I'd say so, even the weird FPS one.
>>13959267
Just skip to the one you want, there might be a console command to do that more easily.
1fdee6 No.13961106
>>13959373
>>13961003
Do what these guys says, skip the level. And optionally save at the beginning of each map and only use the quick-save when you actually want to continue in a level. If you just like to hop into the game and play one specific level sometime.
You can fit all levels in Thief 2, but in Gold you'll run out of exactly one slot. Thieves' Guild
8b9e50 No.13961235
There's shadow tactics, albeit it's stealth mostly comes down to puzzle solving
db6f3e No.13961247
>>13959267
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-End while in a level.
209771 No.13961558
>>13961106
>And optionally save at the beginning of each map and only use the quick-save when you actually want to continue in a level. If you just like to hop into the game and play one specific level sometime.
This way you'll have the money from the previous mission too.
>You can fit all levels in Thief 2, but in Gold you'll run out of exactly one slot.
>Thieves' Guild
Just as planned.
Couldn't you just back up the extra save to another folder anyway? That way you'd just have to copy in Thieves' Guild or I guess Mage Towers if you ever wanted to suffer through it again. I've never bothered because I prefer to autistically play them through in order every time anyway.
>>13924801
>Here's the updated dark mod one.
Nice.
c90022 No.13970211
>>13930022
>Blacklist
>A game you can ghost completely
>Shouldn't bother with
a591de No.13974486
Giving a bump, we don't get a lot of Thief threads.
I got back into FM's and finished the black frog FM it was bretty gud.
e4268e No.13974583
>>13970211
>action stealth
Fuck off.
199e9b No.13975660
>>13929666 (vade retro satana)
Insta-fail and game over is a bad design except for some story-tied super urgent mission or condition. What you want is to able to continue but the guards are on full alert, send out parties to hunt you, fortify the objective and making you jump through more hoops to acquire and placing guards there for the remainder of the mission like in reality.
80b490 No.13975862
>>13975660
>Insta-fail and game over is a bad design except for some story-tied super urgent mission or condition.
Says you, that's only bad for a stealth game when it isn't tied to the hardest difficulties or isn't repeatable trial and error. Different genres different demands Anon.
4f17f3 No.13975875
>>13974583
>you have the choice between action stealth and ghosting therefore it's bad
Are you retarded ?
4a06dd No.13976015
Play shards of darkness and make sure to turn off the deadpool quips in the options menu.
4acf8d No.13982875
502bb2 No.13987072
Started Thief 2x, was expecting more. Granted I only finished the second mission but man is the dialogue shit and cringey. Hope it gets better.
d0d087 No.13987095
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>>13943335
These two games are really good, especially the boss fights in the second. Shame the guy behind it fucked off and never finished the third one.
655ac1 No.13988664
>>13987072
The story is atrocious, it will only get worse. The levels are top notch, though. Just play it for the maps, not the story. You'll get some nice toys to play with, too.
f7fe25 No.13988729
>>13923545
Remind me of ps1 grinch game, I remember I spent tons of hours into it.
27c4f3 No.13988734
>>13923097
Thief is way above average you cocksucker.
000000 No.13989057
you fags need to put down those nostalgia goggles and admit that thief is a shitty series
ac8260 No.13989583
>>13989057
>you fags need to put down those nostalgia goggles and admit that thief is a shitty series
Come back to me when a AAA dev makes a sound engine that is minamum as thorough and fleshed out as Thief's.
4c6a7a No.13990428
>>13988664
The levels were a mixed bag at best. Some, like the train one, were just walking to a point and loading into another area. The extra arrows were neat, but the only one I ever really used was the ice one and sometimes the flare one.
1040da No.13990913
>>13987095
Wow, I didn't know about that.
>>13989583
>aureal is dead
>sensaura is dead
>qsound is dead
>iasig is dead
>ds3d is dead
>creative has fucked off after ruining it for everyone else
Unless VR meme can make people care enough about realtime 3D sound to make a decent API again, nothing will ever happen.
502bb2 No.13992559
>>13988664
Yeah I don't give a shit about the story I just want to be play the game.
>>13990428
>The levels were a mixed bag at best
I can already tell.
008869 No.13992602
>>13925411
Man I fucking loved that game. How is it possible that a free game given out by a shitty fast food place could be so good?
4e6fe7 No.13992608
>>13992602
Made by the same guys who did Taz Wanted and Pac Man World 3 which were also decent.
008869 No.13992619
>>13992608
>Taz Wanted and Pac Man World 3
I have played neither of those games. Thanks for the recommendations.
008869 No.13992634
>>13992619
>starts looking into the people who made those games.
>Blitz Games went defunct in 2013
oh, that's too bad.
>after making a shrek alarm app for iOS and android
Well, maybe it was for the best.
4c6a7a No.13994672
>>13992559
My favorite parts are where the politics of the creators get into the game and fuck up the Hammerites by making them 2D evil people. There's a scene where a Hammerite threatens to torture a little kid because he was bad at drawing.
64d60c No.13995064
>>13923219
>complete
season 1 is complete lol