41184f No.13898167
http://archive.is/ca02Q
>This has been an incredible year for our company, one that represents our ambitions for Japanese games in the west. We are in the middle of experiencing tremendous growth, both in the west and abroad, and the sales of Persona 5 represent a new level of expectation for fans of the genre. Once seen as niche, Persona 5 is one of the most important titles this year, proving interest in this category is expanding. We look forward to delivering more incredible games to our fans next year.
Seems like Atlus knows that Japanese games had a good year. Its most likely that they know western games are dying.
Also
GET SMOKED CONNOR
62b4c1 No.13898200
41184f No.13898202
>>13898175
Stay analblasted Connor.
41184f No.13898220
>>13898200
That shit doesn't have Atlus's statement on their sales.
I greentexted their comment on this and the statement shows that Japanese games is growing thanks to western games falling into Social Justice and get rich quick schemes
37126a No.13898256
>>13898232
All Commies get the bullet.
62b4c1 No.13898263
Reminder not to give (You)s out freely. Make sure they earn it.
2e08d3 No.13898282
>>13898263
Forgive them, anon, for they know not what they are doing.
6f804b No.13898288
LGBBQWTFROFL2+ shoah imminent.
6 gorillion homos back in the closet because Fatlus had the audacity of not treating being a raging faggot as the greatest problem a person can have in life.
ff7af0 No.13898290
>>13898202
The localization is fine and goons and journos should be gassed like the subverting kikes they are.
I still think the game is trash and along with everything Atlus has developed after DDS2.
0bd780 No.13898304
>western games all fall for sjw bullshit
>start bombing left and right
>everyone playing japanese games instead
>sjw (((localizers))) also being BTFO
Year of the fire cock fucking delivered.
41184f No.13898309
>>13898288
>tfw SJWs are fearful to play Persona 5 because it'll put them back to the closet
What a time to be alive.
2e08d3 No.13898310
>>13898290
>the thought DDS2 was good
Way to out yourself as the newfag
62b4c1 No.13898347
>>13898290
>he didn't like any of the Etrian Odyssey games or Radiant Historia
shit taste confirmed
42abc7 No.13898378
>Once seen as niche, Persona 5 is one of the most important titles this year
When was persona 5 considered "Niche"?
ff7af0 No.13898386
>>13898310
>>13898324
>Thinking they can tak shit while defending Persona 3,4 and 5
>>13898347
Why play that garbage when I can play Wizardry and M&M at anytime?
>>13898378
Before Persona 3
771989 No.13898400
B-BUT MUH SEXISM! MUH BAD TRANSLATION! MUH LACK OF CENSORSHIP! MUH POLITICS! S-STOP BUYING GAMES THAT WE DONT GET A CHANCE TO CENSOR AND DESTROY YOU FILTHY FUCKS!
2e08d3 No.13898407
>>13898386
>he fell for it
41184f No.13898417
>>13898400
I wonder how Connor feels that his failed attempts didn't put any dents on Persona 5's sales?
ff7af0 No.13898426
>>13898386
>>13898378
Shit my bad, read that wrong
>When was it considered niche?
By mainstream media standarts its niche
It only got mass appeal with this one because the industry is that shit.
>>13898392
Because Cuphead was massively shilled by Microsoft and its on PC.
>>13898407
Fell for what?
2e08d3 No.13898433
>>13898426
>Connor's still posting
6f804b No.13898454
>>13898392
Most of the "coverage", to use the term very loosely, was the usual suspects winging at how "problematic" the game was because you can't fag it up, the fags that do appear are a couple of predatory pederasts, cake haters, that regressing homo etc. For the most part it was a temper tantrum that they didn't get to pozz the localization with maymays and anti-Drumpf quips.
>>13898417
If anything, it probably Streisand'ed it like Schreier and his "huge gazongas is a pedophile fantasy" tirade on Dragon's Crown.
d8d0c9 No.13898456
>tfw japan literally has one good year of games and they're pretty much all single player with a few exceptions
>the west is imploding in on itself trying to justify cutting away SP and focusing more and more on loot boxes
>virtue signaling, mediocre games, movie games spelling the irrelevance of the western industry
literally just one year and the entire western industry is coming apart, get fucked jews
ff7af0 No.13898462
>>13898433
>Anyone who dislikes my shitty game is Connor
Next you'll tell ne BOTW isn't mediocre as well
f123be No.13898502
>>13898167
How soon will I be able to play it on my PC? I'm not getting a cuckstation to play it.
41184f No.13898517
>>13898456
>EA claims single players are dead
>Gets caught redhanded scamming consumers with loot boxes
>Japan makes a single player games
>Games sold surprisingly well
Jesus, western games has fallen but it was needed for their stupidity.
08a15b No.13898523
>>13898502
You already can with RPCS3
10d1a9 No.13898563
>>13898324
>personafag attacking DDS
Crossing the line there kid. Just accept Nocturne/DDS/SJ are better, and we'll allow your persona faggotry. Otherwise, you should know your place.
ff7af0 No.13898581
>>13898563
>Shitty spinoff is now mainline
>Mainline is now as shitty as the spinoff
It kills me inside
f123be No.13898592
>>13898502
>tfw there are "men" that still prefer white roasties
8db110 No.13898606
>>13898563
>any SMT game being better than the other
>when they all have the same gameplay over and over with only a few minute differences
Some are a little different, sure, like Devil Survivor for instance. None of the ones you mentioned are though. It's all the same "hit weaknesses for normals enemies, buff/debuff/heal for bosses."
70b16f No.13898623
>>13898592
>liking mongoloid
waitu dicku
73321c No.13898635
>>13898606
So this must be how a reductionist-relativist views things
Truly the most cancerous of anons
>>13898386
>Wizardry
>M&M
Nigger those are completely different game types in completely different settings made by completely different cultures
73321c No.13898675
>>13898670
Sony is going to hold unto this like its their baby.
Persona is a very powerful franchise and system seller for them; bloodborne is also a powerful exclusive as well
d8d0c9 No.13898685
>>13898670
d e s p e r a t e
09f102 No.13898691
>>13898606
>I have played two SMT games on easy mode and am now an expert
ff7af0 No.13898694
>>13898635
Sure, and so is Dragon Quest
ebe6c0 No.13898708
>>13898675
Sony doesn't own either Sega or Atlus unlike Bloodborne which was the last contract work From did before being bought by Kadokawa and is wholly owned by Sony.
>>13898685
Its undergoing preparations and should ve operational within 6 months.
73321c No.13898727
>>13898708
Tell me about a single mainline Persona game that has made it outside of a Sony system. Sony has jewish contracts with Atlus and you should know this by now
4873bd No.13898737
inb4 japan smells money, starts pandering to western media and their games become shit
d8d0c9 No.13898740
>>13898708
>Its undergoing preparations and should ve operational within 6 months.
heard the same thing years ago and still nothing to show for it, the port might not exist unless its out, otherwise it's just hopeful autism
d8d0c9 No.13898743
>>13898737
they already learned their lesson last generation
08a15b No.13898744
>>13898635
Etrian Odyssey is a Wizardry clone
d8d0c9 No.13898749
>>13898744
someones got to keep those "not a true rpg" autists at bay, and leave it to the japs to do that
4d4724 No.13898756
Connor on suicide watch.
I wonder what jap developer he'll try and concern troll into hiring him as a (((localizer))).
4aa623 No.13898759
>>13898737
>starts pandering to western media
>starts
6f804b No.13898784
>>13898456
Guess there might really be a limit to the amount of hebrew devilry the average goy is willing to tolerate.
>>13898737
One Capcom is enough, thank you.
Sega-Atlus-Vanillaware seem to know it's a counter-productive thing to do given the altercations they had with journos plus the feedback they get.
cf7f83 No.13898787
>>13898563
>”my weeaboo game is better than your weeaboo game”
Fatlus fags are funny, especially when they have gay civil wars like this.
ebe6c0 No.13898800
>>13898727
>Tell me about a single mainline Persona game that has made it outside of a Sony system.
The first one
>Sony has jewish contracts
Source or it didn't happen
Atlus has been owned by a shitton of companies now, their executives are simply autistic as all hell, you should know this by now.
>>13898740
Years ago
When?
Game was released in April this year and the article I posted was made in June of this year
41184f No.13898803
>>13898756
He might try to attack Valkyria Chronicles 4 or Shine of Resonance.
But we all know Sega and Atlus will ignore his bluff just like him attacking Persona 5.
Just looking at him failing, his attacks are getting even more desperate.
Connor needs to commit sudoku now.
41184f No.13898810
>>13898803
Fuck, meant to say Shining Resonance.
510f7a No.13898817
>>13898167
>American/Japanese relations get strengthened by Presidential visits, trade talks and popularization of Japanese media in the US.
>Current pozzed AAA industry is imploding.
>Japanese videogame industry now has a reason to ship games overseas due to a growing Western audience.
Is this the start of a golden age of vidya?
76b709 No.13898818
Connor and sjws still salty!
62b4c1 No.13898873
>>13898800
>only example was a game ported 18 years ago
literally proves my point
can't find the sauces I have for the Sony contract shit though, I'll post that in the thread later if I find it
3acaf9 No.13898882
>>13898400
Well this guy can only speak in memes and pop culture reference, I can see why he can't understand shit
>>13898417
The victim complex on this one
ff7af0 No.13898897
>>13898817
>golden age of vidya?
No, demographics and standarts are too low for that.
Its certainly better than it was 10 years ago though, I can't see something like the sheer variety and niche commercial success we're seeing nowadays in that sad state of affairs.
We live in a timeline where Nier 2 was made and Donald Trump is president, anything is possible now.
76b709 No.13898907
>>13898417
Someone hand him a rifle.
41184f No.13898908
>>13898889
>She even took my Wii U
Every time.
f3c253 No.13898947
>>13898873
You did say a single game.
7c1718 No.13898949
>>13898175
Persona 5 is actually you being the least cucked.
ff7af0 No.13898959
>>13898949
Netori is just as bad
76b709 No.13898968
>>13898908
>You aren't Burch
ff7af0 No.13898995
>>13898968
>You're not Alisson Rapp
>You're not Jake Rapp
>You're not Connor
>You're not Randy Pitchford
>You're not Nick Denton
>You're not Patrick Klepek
>You're not Harvey Weinstein
>You're not 9Volt
>You're not Tyler Malka/Evilore
>You're not Burch
41184f No.13899191
>>13898995
>Alison Rapp
What else is she doing now besides whoring herself on twitter?
73321c No.13899199
>>13899191
>pedo looks like low-tier hebe/jailbait
ya can't make this shit up
41184f No.13899207
>>13899199
She is a 2.2 slut.
What would you expect?
6848e7 No.13899399
>>13898691
You act like playing those games on hard is something to be proud off, you just take more damage/crits do more. Its not different than the shit FPS games do.
6848e7 No.13899415
>>13898759
>Posts 4 amazing games
???
eebc33 No.13899423
>>13899399
Except you have to be smarter with buffs/debuffs and team composition. In FPS you need to learn better ammo management and aiming. They're very different even if it's just numbers going up and not actual AI.
09f102 No.13899424
>>13899399
Because the only alternative to easy mode is hard mode? How the fuck did you manage to interpret that from my post?
1fe318 No.13899477
>none western single player game without microtransactions is a hit
>again
>sweatingjournos.png
>sweatingwesternAAA.tiff
2a2017 No.13899515
>>13898167
As long as these nips don't decide to poz their games to "appeal to larger audiences" I will continue to support their gaming industry.
41184f No.13899534
>>13899477
I'm still waiting for Disney to pull the Star Wars license away from EA and also the US government to purge on EA's greed.
This these do happen, then EA will finally die.
4aa623 No.13899539
>>13899415
All those games were designed to pander to Western audiences.
2a2017 No.13899580
>>13899191
Disgusting, please spoiler that shit.
6f804b No.13899584
>>13899539
The audience is the problem now. BBT nerd larping pinheads, non-buyer cunts that insist they're part of the audience (provided the devs meet their terrorist list of demands) and a overall increase in goyim that enable every shitty anti-consumer practice because they gotta have their fix.
2f955d No.13899628
Hmm. I wonder what could have incited this sudden flood of interest in Japanese games.
6a7a78 No.13899658
>>13898167
>Its most likely that they know western games are dying.
More than likely this. The Japs are honestly the only ones who would be capable of filling in the market if the Western vidya industry tanked. Not only that but I have very little doubt that the thought of taking over the Western market gives them a boner a mile wide. If they can get the wyt piggu to have even a fraction of the consumer-frenzy they have in Japland those fuckers stand to make an absolute shit ton of money
eebc33 No.13899659
>>13899628
It's almost like it was a good year for japanese games.
10d1a9 No.13899671
>>13898606
>he thinks press turn in smt is the same as persona
>he thinks party members is the same as summoned demons
>he thinks persona switching is the same gameplay as SJ or DDS
you're a retard.
edcfad No.13899724
>>13898517
Well, it's more like this:
Fully Eastern developed games' planning: let's make a videogame, maybe let's put some gachashit but nothing determined players will miss out on
Fully or partly Western developed games' panning: let's make a ludonarrative experience and fill it with mandatory lootboxes and always online drm
f5921f No.13899735
I want a threesome with Kawakami and Shadow Sae
2f955d No.13899751
>>13899659
And terrible year for everyone else.
41184f No.13899781
>>13899663
>mfw i didn't buy Life is Tumblr and its shitty prequel
eebc33 No.13900196
>>13899751
>And terrible year for everyone else.
It's okay. Monster Hunter World will tank 2018 for the nips.
1df142 No.13900351
>>13899751
It's fucking depressing how the west/two continents are consistently under performing compared to one country.
859f87 No.13900391
b165a5 No.13900399
>>13900196
>making a weeb skyrim for the west
>not selling
i have my doubts about it
37c09a No.13900435
I'm waiting for P5: Complete Edition since Fatlus is milking the game now.
f13dbe No.13900451
>>13900435
there is a Persona 5 Complete Edition and it's, like, 130 dollars.
37c09a No.13900454
>>13900451
Might as well wait for P5 Crimson or something then.
73321c No.13900499
>>13900351
A tiny island country smaller than most others no less
b32b75 No.13900526
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13898167
Is SMT worth getting into?
f13dbe No.13900552
>>13900526
In terms of mainline, if you don't want to deal with how old the originals are, you start with 3 and end there because 4 and Final are absolute shit. A lot of the spinoffs are great like Digital Devil Saga and Raido games. The strategy games are also pretty alright. Strange Journey is considered the true sequel to 3 for some. Just dabble around and see what interests you.
1df142 No.13900613
>>13900499
It's not even like the whole country's entertainment industry is doing it too. It's just a handful of development studios. This is also ignoring how popular anime and manga is in the west. And their only competition are fucking indie games, some slavs, and some turks.
I'd be laughing if it was so pathetic.
711f32 No.13900620
It seems like Atlus went into development of Persona 5 with a checklist in mind of what things worked well in the previous two games and thought that tossing them all together would create another good game:
>Needs to be in a school setting
>There has to be some kind of mystery
>There must be a school trip
>Must include a new mission control person halfway through the game who shows you how better they are by predicting the enemy's attacks
>There must be a school festival
>There must be a female character with daddy issues
>There must be a traitor
>There must be an option for a bad ending
>You must fight some godlike being as the final boss
>There must be a scene where all your social links come to your aid
>Your first persona must come back at the end of the game to fight for you
>Must include the reaper that will hunt you down if you wait too long in one place
>Every goddamn boss must have a telegraphed charge attack
A lot of these design decisions were obviously added in solely because they worked before, but too many of them just ended up hampering the presentation of the game instead of improve on it.
Having the game take place in a school setting was pointless in a game that 90% takes place away from the school. Whereas P3 and P4 had a strong school related supporting cast to add life and character into the school and the related events. P5's school and events felt hollow and lacking in character or connection, largely in part due to having only two school related supporting cast members.
Doing an In Medias Res mystery was counter productive (Having the game take place in your memories is problematic as it is). It seems the writers went out of their way to spoil what would happen to your next target. Unlike P4, there was no suspense regarding what would happen next in the story. And when it finally came time for the big reveal, the traitor turned out to be the obvious suspect and the surprise counter gambit had to be bullshitted into existence with "bad memory" and "Gotcha! we were only pretending to be retarded" type explaining. The entire mystery and traitor story fell flat on its face and made the narration less interesting instead of more.
Having a god like big bad come out of nowhere after Shido went against the standard story model (which is standard solely because it works so well). The last act of a story should raise the excitement of the story, bringing it to a climax which, once resolved, should swiftly lead to the story's end (Like the way P3 did). The lead up to Shido was done well enough, but the story immediately flat-lines in excitement after, limping along slowly only to briefly pick up 30 minutes before beginning the fight with the final boss. P4 managed to get away with the big bad not being who you've chased after all game due to the fact that the story was neatly wrapped up by then, and challenging Izanami felt more like an overtime/after story and less a critical part of the story. Shoehorning a god into the end of the story wrecked the cohesion and flow of the story.
The Reaper was a blatant check mark on a list of things to do for nostalgia sake. In P3, the mood was right and there was a reasonable risk of encountering it on a standard playthrough. It was a legitimate threat. In P5, I don't think it's possible to find it unless your actively waiting to see it (also, why tell the player about it? Let them find it out for themselves).
Also, can we please move onto some kind of combat more complicated than "The-boss-is-preparing-to-shit-on-your-team-next-turn-please-guard-so-we-don't-make-you-go-game-over"? Kamoshida, Madarame, Kaneshiro, Sphinx, Okumura, Sae, Shido, Akechi, the final boss… Every goddamn one of them had a telegraphed attack. It's like they can't think of anything more interesting or complicated for their combat. Speaking of combat, P5 was piss easy compared to previous entries. Even on hard, you can skip fighting common trash for final two dungeons and still have little difficulty against the final bosses. What happened to the days when Atlus was considered "that game company that feeds on the tears of its players"?
Despite all this, it did do a fair amount of improvements to the formula (attaching so many unique abilities to SLinks was a stroke of genius), and given that it's been 9 years since P4, did a satisfactory job of scratching that itch. It just could have done so much better.
73321c No.13900628
>>13900613
Well, there are some AA studios in the west doing okay for themselves. But you're right. Imagine the amount of money AAAs have poured in to have their games be such utter garbage. They have probably wasted entire countries' economies worth of money trying to strike gold, its incredible
67be85 No.13900653
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13898563
To be fair, DDS1 outshines DDS2 in everything but mechanics. The environmental design alone makes it infinitely more worth playing.
>tfw no SMT Mahabharata
eebc33 No.13900675
>>13900653
I recently played DDS2 and it was such a letdown in almost every way. DDS1 is fucking great.
fa760a No.13900734
Persona 5 is the best JRPG created in decades. Haters should just go and die. If you hate Persona 5 you're probably also gay.
f02ba6 No.13900773
>>13900620
>Implying persona is not popular primarily because of its aesthetics and music and gameplay/plot secondarily
37c09a No.13900803
>>13900734
>Not Etrian Odyssey V, Strange Journey and/or Radiant Historia
f91935 No.13900847
>>13900734
If persona is the best JRPGs have to offer then I am glad I don't give a shit about JRPGs
a96967 No.13901095
>>13900773
I admit it's stylish as fuck.
2e7145 No.13901129
I honestly feel like Persona 5 should win GOTY at the game awards just to BTFO everything else that came out this year. Nobody would see it coming, seeing as how the game awards very rarely have any anime games nominated for anything.
a96967 No.13901141
>>13901129
The game awards are just advertising for US corps. There is no way a japanese game will win.
f02ba6 No.13901256
>>13901245
Have fun with loli being banned for the olympics.
2e7145 No.13901266
>>13901141
I know, but one can dream.
81027a No.13901269
File: 76610acc1e05a2a⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 432.35 KB, 600x847, 600:847, 5fbafd511944d7929f451b2103….png)
File: ee1e603ef90050c⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 617.86 KB, 1000x1032, 125:129, 442811_20151118223654_0.jpg)
File: 87650b6ebb6bb2a⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 418.28 KB, 800x600, 4:3, d2c66971e3087762d6914003c3….jpg)
>>13898386
Because those games don't have lolis nigger.
2fab46 No.13901286
>>13898670
>Nioh
Japan finally made an answer to Dark Souls.
4a5b74 No.13901377
Connor doesn't know Japanese. He never actually claimed to, for what that's worth. He's an editor. I really hate that faggot for basically making it impossible to discuss the quality of P5's translation without everything turning into a shitting contest though.
f02ba6 No.13901385
>>13901377
Wasn't that just a front for SJWs kvetching over the game itself?
c505d3 No.13901470
41184f No.13901529
>>13901129
>He thinks a Japanese game would win at The Game Awards
These are the same fags that gave Dragon Age Inquisition, Her Story, and Street Fighter V awards
41184f No.13901595
>>13901529
Also
>inb4 SFV
That game doesn't deserve credit.
That game was shit.
d8d0c9 No.13901631
>>13899751
it was a pretty average year for western games. Mass effect andromeda is just a point and a half worse than mass effect 3, star wars battlefront 2 is as bad as every other western loot box game and has game play as mediocre as the first one. People are just realizing that all western games are pretty much shit.
19d0e4 No.13901729
>>13898949
No wonder it didn't resonate with Burch.
19d0e4 No.13901744
>>13899005
I can't stand Lightning but damn I want to forcefeed chibi version my toblerone.
41184f No.13902281
>>13901729
I'm still angry that they BURCHED Rise
196983 No.13904552
>>13898324
Nigger that is probably the best side series SMT has put out and I say that as a massive Persona fag.
89928a No.13904637
>>13898400
>anthony burch, sorry
89928a No.13904693
>>13898456
I am loving every fucking second of this.
>Jew controlled CIA pushes gender identity politics into video games, one of the last refuges where heroism, strength, and skill are glorified and rewarded
>Jews running the companies like EA got so greedy they opened Pandora's box because they wanted 50 cent microtransactions
I just fucking love it. All these years of build-up, and they blew their load early. Every one of these jews deserves to drown in a caustic soup of blood and lime in an open grave shared by their families.
efdf5d No.13904713
>>13900526
The main games are good but most start at 3 because the first 2 can be a bit confusing if you aren't used to RPGs from that era and 1 can drag towards the end, and like >>13900552 says 4 and final are not well liked by a lot of the core fans because of changes they made.
>>13900675
I think DDS was supposed to have another game IIRC, but I can't remember where I read that from, it sucks because DDS is probably one of my favorite spin-offs.
8569cd No.13904719
>>13899628
I wonder (((who))), indeed
dbd0d0 No.13904758
>>13900196
I hope that it sells a fucktonne in japan too, just so that it pisses off nip-anon.
>>13901286
For those who actually dont know, Dark Souls and Bloodborne was made in japan
Checkmate, westernfags
1cbdf7 No.13906503
File: b7b34bbdbeada26⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 49.33 KB, 600x906, 100:151, a2bb9499f8b0399a3cc12b4762….jpg)
File: 1acbce5877b7f41⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 127.7 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, bd312a310d6c53dc1659dff0ca….jpg)
File: 742ef601b6f8c1a⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 48.95 KB, 600x906, 100:151, c8790248503153e76b1ce7e22f….jpg)
File: 8fa8dec3ac10970⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 78.45 KB, 700x933, 700:933, e1f8eae8d7b900dd689d1bf9fb….jpg)
9bdeb0 No.13906734
>>13902281
I'm dumbfounded that after as bad as BURCHED Rise turned out, BURCH takes over YET ANOTHER Laura Bailey role
41184f No.13907033
>>13906734
>Chun Li also BURCHED
This bitch deserves to get gassed.
f02ba6 No.13907819
>>13906734
>Ashley "We couldn't afford Bailey so this will do" Burch
41184f No.13907834
>>13907819
Why does she keep getting roles?
She doesn't even like video games.
771989 No.13908093
>>13907834
Cronyism, just like everything else in the videogame industry. She didn't get her job based on her lack of talent, she got it because her brother worked at a studio and got her in with the VA clique.
1c8599 No.13908116
>>13908093
Not even an actual brother at that, he's an adopted Arab
41184f No.13908130
>>13908093
>she got it because her brother worked at a studio and got her in with the VA clique.
Sounds familiar.
9603aa No.13908671
>>13899539
>All those games were designed to pander to Western audiences.
>Ducktales
>TMNT4
You've got to be retarded. At least admit that you're an incredibly stupid weeb.
A western license has fuck all to share with westernized gaming. You probably think that jap kids don't know classic disney.
9603aa No.13908681
>>13900620
>I'm 12 and what is anime
5c33cb No.13908700
>>13908691
reminder smt multiverse is a clusterfuck
4d4724 No.13908703
Suck my big, fat cock, Connor.
You will never get to poz Persona 5 or any other game for that matter.
f7e918 No.13908725
>>13908700
>timeline autism is autistic
In other news water is wet
7f061e No.13908731
>>13898167
>company that DMCAs videos of its "games" because they're 90% cutscene and 10% shitty JRPG makes sales because weebs and normalfags
This isn't much to celebrate.
>>13900351
It isn't. You weeb faggots are just masturbating over one cartoon game doing ok and ignoring everything else in the world.
4d4724 No.13908747
>>13908731
Let me guess, you play Overwatch?
3acaf9 No.13908755
>>13908700
No Devil May Cry?
Anyway, trying to make a timelines between games who only share have references and easter eggs is retarded. The only valid ones are the Persona games
5c33cb No.13908761
>>13908755
well, we can thank nocturne for that since there is a character that is saying something about a universe if it was not more dimensions.
7497b0 No.13908763
>>13908731
I'm getting tired of these anti weebs. Calm your tits anon we're not going to take away your games.
f7e918 No.13908770
>>13908761
The multiverse part is an established part of the SMT canon. That's why all these things are taking place at relatively the same and half the time it's in Tokyo. That part isn't timeline autism, timeline autism is autists clamoring for any easter eggs and trying to build something useful out of it Zelda style. At least thankfully Atlus hasn't pandered to their autism yet And I hope they never will. since most fags only care about Persona which the modern 3 are not subtly linked at all. It full on references other characters by name or even on posters like Rise.
5c33cb No.13908771
>>13908763
I don't get it. How can he be attacking a game that attract weebs like Sonic attracts Autism.
7497b0 No.13908787
There's no commercial imperative for Atlus to port their games to PC or Switch.
Remember that JRPGs on Steam only happened when the Japanese console market sank and the PS3 was struggling. Japanese devs HAD to find new markets.
Atlus is in a position of luxury and the PS4 is doing gangbusters. And it helps that China no longer bans consoles.
37c09a No.13908795
>>13908787
Well Switch is getting SMT V anyway.
f7e918 No.13908801
>>13908787
>There's no commercial imperative for Atlus to port their games to PC or Switch.
>When SMT V has been confirmed for the switch for two months
4d4724 No.13908809
>>13908795
>>13908801
>SMT V
>current year nintendo exclusive
What joy.
f7e918 No.13908816
>>13908809
No one said it would be good. Unless /ourboy/ Kaneko really is back But anon autistic ramblings about Atlus not expanding their market is objectively wrong, especially given that mainline has been regulated to mobile devices.
8296ab No.13908827
>>13908816
>Completely linear on/off transition on the spin.
Who put this gif out and thought it was okay?
37c09a No.13908831
>>13908816
Since Yamai is at the helm I doubt SMT V would be great. EO is the only Atlus franchise I care about at this point.
851b5f No.13909135
>>13908801
>>13908795
I was talking about P5, haven't you seen all the port begging?
851b5f No.13909141
>>13908816
Just curious. Are you guys ever going to accept that Persona is now mainline?
68f418 No.13909235
>>13908787
>There is no imperative
Besides Sega wanting shekels
f7e918 No.13909639
>>13909141
Persona isn't Mainline until Mainline gets some kind of asinine subtext like
>SMT Original: V
I also just realized that Persona 5 just dropped the SMT prefix from it's title so it might as well be it's own thing at this point as far as Atlus is concerned.
f7e918 No.13909667
>>13908755
>No Devil May Cry
Actually in the remastered version that was Japan exclusive they replaced Dante with Raidou but it's never fully explained how Raidou showed up in Nocturne and it's treated the same as the Dante situation. Kind of funny no one mentions it in chart autism though.
09f102 No.13909675
>>13909639
Did P1 or P2 have the SMT prefix?
f7e918 No.13909685
>>13909675
What the fuck they didn't? So it went
>SMT Persona OG
>Persona 2 Innocent Sin
>Persona 2 Eternal Punishment
>SMT Persona 3
>SMT Persona 4
>Persona 5
Is this just localizers fucking up like they did with DDS or do the JP version do this too?
de47f9 No.13909731
>>13908691
>one day
ow my sides
09f102 No.13909744
>>13909685
It looks like P1 had the SMT prefix in Japan, but not everywhere. They probably called it "Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3" for brand recognition since Nocturne and DDS had already released in the west, but with P5 they've reached the point where more people know what Persona is than SMT.
Haven't managed to find P3's nip box art but I would be interested to see it
09f102 No.13909751
>>13909744
Oh fuck no, I'm wrong, those aren't the right characters for the title, I really need to learn moon. I just recognized the first two and went with it
cf5562 No.13909757
>>13908691
Was he joking I wonder.
f7e918 No.13909777
>>13909751
Yeah the first one is Megami Ibunroku Persona so it was never actually considered SMT
5c33cb No.13909798
>>13909777
w00t? That's why they did not have smt for 2 but why did they have smt for 3?
542b72 No.13909810
>>13909798
Japs are masters at coming up with the most retarded names and subtitles. It is best not to think about the naming reasons too much.
4d4724 No.13909882
>>13909810
>mfw Guilty gear and BB naming
f7e918 No.13909887
>>13909798
I can't find a Japanese cover of Persona 3 but finding Persona 4 it does not have the SMT prefix. And as far as any information I can find the Japanese title of Persona 3 is just Persona 3. The reason it has the SMT prefix in the US is because the localizers are retarded and made the same fuck up with DDS.
f7e918 No.13909894
>>13909798
No wait, just managed to find it. There is not a single Persona game that is considered SMT in Japan.
18b4a9 No.13909901
>>13909798
All of the Persona games in Japan apart from the first just go by Persona and the first is only Megami Iburoku which is just something along the lines of Goddess Odyssey. Adding Shin Megami to later titles 3 and 4 was something they did to all of the spinoffs to make them easier to market in the West. You'll note how both versions of Persona 5 no longer staple Shin Megami Tensei in front.
9bdeb0 No.13909908
>>13907834
Hard to say. And suddenly she gets cast as the white savior in a WE WUZ game (I doubt it was acted well), and everyone loves her.
Though admittedly, she's pretty good with the adorably retarded type.
5c33cb No.13909924
>>13909901
>Megami Ibunroku Persona
wait ain't Ibunroku revelation or something?
41184f No.13909933
>>13909908
>Though admittedly, she's pretty good with the adorably retarded type.
Don't you dare.
4c0917 No.13909980
The Persona series is a joke that got taken too far.
f59c98 No.13910091
>>13906503
>tattoos
>video game tattoos
>le fuck drumpf
Not even 2/5, i’d rate 1.2/5
f59c98 No.13910107
>>13909980
All of vidya is an example of mankind putting their endless hubris to the test and creating something horrible, Nolan Bushnell and the entire class of UC Berkeley who create Tennis for Two should be ashamed.
c8525a No.13910113
>>13909980
>seething pcuck
c8525a No.13910122
>>13909675
Also, what the fuck is the difference between P2 Eternal Punishment and Innocent Sin? Haven't played them.
09f102 No.13910132
>>13910122
It's a duology, they're separate games
c8525a No.13910151
>>13910132
You mean like separate disconnected stories and everything, or is it like the pokemon games where they have 5 versions of the same game with little touches.
f7e918 No.13910160
>>13910151
Two seperate stories taking place at the near exact same time. A very simple description would be that in Eternal Punishment you play as a group of adults who clean up the messes the high schoolers of Innocent Sin leave in their wake.
77d8fd No.13910198
>>13906503
I'd fuck her several times, and then right before I leave, never to return, I'd whisper in her ear "make america great again," slap her ass and walk out the door
41184f No.13910286
>>13910198
The sex wouldn't be that great.
She's a 2.2 remember anon? >>13899207
6b5ce1 No.13910350
>>13899207
>>13899191
Is it true Rapp's husband finally stopped being a pegged cuck and actually left her?
949746 No.13910371
Sega seems to be very hands off with Atlus. Very much anti EA. So long as Atlus keeps making money I don't expect any pressure to port Persona for PC.
Now if P5 had bombed there would have been a port to recoup costs pushed by Sega I'm sure.
d8d0c9 No.13910381
>>13910374
undeniably, the western game industry would benefit drastically if it had mental health requirements.
6b5ce1 No.13910515
>>13910374
Catching up on her shit, she really did turn into a lolcow.
e7a6aa No.13910516
>>13907834
She has those fucked up jew eyes where she clearly wants power over you. What do the japs call it? Sanpaku eyes?
9da266 No.13910577
>>13909882
At least they're not naming sequels in the same franchise the exact same fucking name
d08b50 No.13910584
>>13910577
But they're reboots innit?
432e03 No.13910595
>>13910577
You can make Chad Prey vs Virgin Prey and Chad Doom vs Virgin Doom with those.
41df63 No.13910601
>>13910516
Adam Lanza eyes
65f9c9 No.13910733
>the most casualised, westernised game of the series sells well in western nations
>japanese games are growing
Persona 5 was shit.
If persona didn't have the anime aesthetic none of you retards would even talk about this game.
NOTICE HOW NOBODY ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT PERSONA 5S GAME MECHANICS
f8f34d No.13910783
Sumhuman japs take advantage of the growing influence of the ironic weeb phenomena to take dumb gaijin money with cute anime characters in a shit game. This MUST be a jewish plot of some kind
4d4724 No.13910801
5c33cb No.13910826
Also what kind of game mechanic should one talk about in a superior nip game with anime portraits? also we have the negress with a big afro while she is chimping out the fps.
41184f No.13910914
>>13910515
>she really did turn into a lolcow.
>tfw Rapp gets trolled so hard, she'll disappear, only to reappear as a tranny.
f13dbe No.13910951
>>13910733
Alright, goon. Them adding negotiations back was a really good move and how they handled integrating it back in was well done if a bit "casualized". You now no longer have to get their card and then go back to the Velvet Room to fuse them, you can use them as soon as you get them. Them also bringing guns back could have been handled a bit better, but in the end it was a nice implementation.
A mechanic that was extremely underutilized in negotiations was the part where an enemy can take your party member hostage so you have to work to take them back. Mainly because it would rarely happen if you were decent at the game and didn't get a disadvantage when starting to fight. The Thieve's Guild online component is also something that could have been more, but feels like an afterthought and feels like they had to have it because Golden had it.
404273 No.13910964
b19f9e No.13910967
>>13901595
Well every other fighting game released in 2016 was Japanese, so it would've been a Japanese game regardless who won.
>>13910577
>At least they're not naming sequels in the same franchise the exact same fucking name
They're reboots you fucking retard.
0df4f8 No.13911095
>>13910951
I would have used guns more if the Tower Confidant appeared much earlier, and maybe not having them exclusive to Joker, who already eats up his turns being the swiss army knife of the party with near-constant persona switching. Maybe it's just the way I play, but the guns served very little purpose for me in the endgame palaces.
efdf5d No.13911115
>>13911095
End-game you get the severe gun skills like riot gun and one-shot kill so unless you are low on health using those skills are typically a better use of Joker's turn if the enemy is weak to gun.
f13dbe No.13911116
>>13911095
I'd always ended up using guns as a set up for a pass to another character who could do more damage with their type of magic advantage. Which brings me to another mechanic that I enjoyed which was the Pass mechanic. I didn't like how it was locked to leveling up the party member's Social Links, but once I did eventually unlock it, battles ran so much more smoothly. It added a needed layer of tactics, in my opinion.
a96967 No.13911137
>>13911116
Enjoyed that as well. Made it feel more like a team working together than folks who happen to be standing next to each other working independently.
510f7a No.13911145
>>13910577
Prey and Prey™ aren't related at all to each other, you fart connoisseur.
5c33cb No.13911300
>>13910374
So Alison became a lolcow and she sells her lewds?
But at-least the cuck got his balls together and realized that being with 2,2 worth of lay is not worth it.
d08b50 No.13911309
>>13911300
She got fired from Nintendo because she was selling lewds, she just kept selling them after she was fired.
5c33cb No.13911339
>>13911309
I thought she was fired for some lewds and being an escort girl.
797d77 No.13911344
>>13904693
They just couldn't help themselves. Just think of all the shekels they were letting slide through their fingers all these years.
c7972b No.13911360
>>13911309
>>13911300
>>13911339
It wasn't particularly for the lewds, it's because nintendo expressively forbids any kind of a side job to their employees, the fact that it turned out that she was a literal prostitute as well probably didn't help.
f34c85 No.13911413
>>13911339
>>13911309
And also being a pedo apologist
5c33cb No.13911544
>>13911360
I'm not gonna lie but I felt really smug when the news hit. Also wasn't she the nly one that was reviewed but her cuck husband wasn't?
Since that was the funniest thing, both are hookers but he grew some balls and divorced her when he found out she was a 2,2 out 5 lay.
While now she is obsessing over a 24 year old and says they are going to marry and so on.
a6cc83 No.13911570
>>13898167
The best part is that it's triggering as hell for SJWs. Pic related, it's the typical discussion happening on SJW focums like somethingawful. They're mega-triggered over this game.
6f804b No.13911594
>>13911570
>ryuji go 'also the jews did 9/11'
Ryuuji never says anything smart or thought-provoking though. Confirmed not having played the game.
Here's another classic.
d08b50 No.13911626
>>13911594
>literally a joke for most people that doubles as deflection for the inevitable edgelord shooting that gets blamed on these new VIDYA GAEMS
>Why didn't they warn me before I bought the game
I'm sure they're actively taking rights away from people who select the No option. Good thing those faggots tanked their own forum.
f7e918 No.13912110
>>13911594
The one thing that kills me about Persona 5 is that Atlus felt their story was so fucking amazing that the reason they dmca'd everything was because they didn't want things to spoiled past 7/7. And then, after getting shit on, they take most of it back ==EXCEPT== that you were only allowed to stream the game until you've played past 11/19. That's how much confidence they had in Persona 5 story, it's climax and twist was so amazing they dmca'd shit.
d08b50 No.13912162
>>13912110
>That's how much confidence they had in Persona 5 story, it's climax and twist was so amazing they dmca'd shit.
Misuse of the law should not be encouraged. The DMCA is shitty enough without people misusing it for the "right" reasons. That said I understand why they did so because I have heard of, and witnessed, people who just flat out don't buy games they see streamed because
>lol I've seen the ending what's the point
and those faggots should be shot.
41184f No.13912273
>>13911570
>>13911594
http://archive.is/z650f
Also they are still triggered by Persona 5 to this day.
I won't be surprised that they'll still be triggered in 5 or 6 years
d9b26d No.13912320
>>13898167
BUT MUH WESTERN SENSIBILITIES!
>Its most likely that they know western games are dying.
please dont bully western vidya, they are still some good ones out there
1df142 No.13912390
>>13912273
>All these sexism issues really boil down to the game assuming the player is a heterosexual male and prioritizing that audience.
What a fucking crime.
d9b26d No.13912441
>>13906503
>>13899191
>mfw
>>13912273
>they are trying to steal our maymays
shameful
cf5562 No.13912465
>>13912390
We'll it's not like this stops porn artists from drawing gay porn of P5 characters. Or making gay doujin about the male characters in P5.
41184f No.13912504
>>13912441
>Stealing the Makoto template
These faggots need to be gassed.
5d5fe8 No.13912579
>>13900454
>>13900435
yeah, about that, atlus really knows how to milk shit, you aren't getting any decent package for a good time
d9b26d No.13912599
>>13900435
>I'm waiting for P5: Complete Edition
the dlc is mostly some dresses and shit, and dlc with personas from other personas games and the only good dlc is the swimsuit which is already free.
5d5fe8 No.13912604
>>13912273
>how dares final fantasy make you accept the protagonist as your avatar
>how dares the legend of zelda make you accept link as your avatar
Jesus shit fuck they don't get it
6f804b No.13912684
>>13912110
The jackasses made the entire game a blocked scene. That killed part of my fun as I was hoping to screencap my favorite fused abominations or some particularly amusing lines and casino shadow tiddies.
This makes me think of Yakuza 0/Kiwami and how much I'd be missing out if those games were entirely blocked.
f7e918 No.13912707
>>13900435
>DLC consists of boring alternative costumes
>Persona from other games that are no longer story relevant outside them
>some accessories that are okay and just reference other shit
The complete edition sounds awful. I just want Crimson to come out so they can fix this plot and dungeon balance somehow.
711f32 No.13912837
>>13910733
Combat mechanics were okay. Meaningful challenges where you can fully use these mechanics were lacking. The most complicated threat in the game is "X is charging for a powerful attack". A few of the end game bosses had some more challenging mechanics (such as Michael), but by that point, the player is far too overleveled for them to matter.
d9b26d No.13913153
>>13912110
i just wanted to webm headpats at a silky smooth 24 fps
f59c98 No.13913222
>>13912707
I want P5 Crimson to have a romanceable Sae and an ending where you and Pancake Lad betray the Phantom Thieves as part of an even bigger Keikaiku to take down Shido.
f7e918 No.13913241
>>13913222
>one more cake to split the romance options in half between cake and not cake
Yes please.
And if possible shoehorn Hifumi as a playable character somehow.
41184f No.13913255
>>13913241
>if possible shoehorn Hifumi as a playable character
Do you want another Yukiko playable?
f7e918 No.13913265
>>13913255
She's leagues better then Ann or Haru.
I just want to have my dedicated magic nuker to not be annoying as hell
d08b50 No.13913438
>>13913265
The issue I have with Haru is that she's introduced into the story so late that she doesn't really feel like a part of the team and more just
>Well, we brought the faggotcat back into the fold, now we have to bring his vegetableslut into the group too.
6f804b No.13913464
>>13913255
You leave Larry 2: Wholesome Boogaloo alone, mister!
f7e918 No.13913470
>>13913438
She had (kind of) already manifested her Persona at that point, and it was impossible to get much anywhere without her opening doors in the palace. She also does have a goal related to the group. It's at least better then the Yusuke situation where we get
>oh man we accidentally dragged this random nobody into the metaverse
>oh wait he's pissed at his teacher
>well I guess you can join the team
She's not around long enough with her to mesh with the group but she's not the worst when it comes to randomly letting people join.
41184f No.13913485
>>13913464
>Larry 2: Wholesome Boogaloo alone
Good one anon.
d08b50 No.13913501
>>13913470
>the Yusuke situation
I feel like they only made Yusuke a party member just so they could make Makoto joining a bigger deal as the second girl in a sausagefest. Which is probably also why Haru joins as a party member
Yusuke and Haru really only joined the team because they were related to the dungeon at that specific moment, after that they sort of just feel like burdens/required for social links. Ann and Makoto getting caught and joining because they're suspicious cunts seems somewhat plausible due to their relationships with the original members.
cf5562 No.13913503
>>13913222
>More group outings,
>more actual dates with your chosen waifu,
>option to ally with pancakeman or convince him to join your group, through a series of special interactions and hidden events
>an actual operation "babe hunt,"
>redo the Hawaii field trip comepletely,
>nighttime interactions with social links just to get to know them better,
>cameos from the P4/P3 crew in new events
not really hoping for them but it would be nice to see one or two "all grown up." Would love to see Mitsuru in her MILF form or Naoto for that matter.
>an actual epilogue where the P5 crew gets together one last time before everyone continue on with their lives
f7e918 No.13913526
>>13913501
>burdens/required for social links.
>Haru
>Burden
She's the only character with access to Heat Riser that isn't MC that makes her immensely useful if you want MC to be your beat stick, and even if you want the two best damage dealers to be the beat sticks Ryuji and Ann. I would think the only other reason they're kept in the group is because it's a serious liability to let people who know about the metaverse and about the Phantom Thieves walking around.
f7e918 No.13913542
>>13913526
Oh wait if you referring to them as a burden story wise then I would say Haru is definitely a burden.
>Has fat stacks of cash
>MC is still the one paying for all the equipment they need
>grows vegetables that have magic properties
And Yusuke is in a similar situation where his ability to copy Skill Cards is immensely useful to MC in a game play context and thus makes sense in the context of Persona 5 the game, he makes much less sense if you were to look at the overarching story without gameplay mechanics.
cf5562 No.13913563
>>13913509
Also
>P5 crimson is released two years from March 7th. Ihop's official national pancake day
. :^)
41184f No.13913576
>>13913563
P-Please, no more pancakes.
d08b50 No.13913588
>>13913542
But it would have been entirely possible to have them do that without making them party members with what are probably the weakest introductions possible other than
>Oh hi, I see I crashed into you randomly in this five hundred mile wide forest area. LET'S BE FRIENDS
It feels like they could have cut the roster/combined characters and made something better rather than taking over half of the game to introduce all of your party members because, similar to the tales games Particularly Symphonia because that is the one I had the biggest issue with, by the time your entire roster is introduced you've already found a working setup and they end up being wasted characters/do it for the sidequest type bullshit.
dbd0d0 No.13913600
>>13913576
Here, some pancakes just for you! Honey
efdf5d No.13914876
>>13913501
Yusuke gets relegated to using his autistic artistic talents to making the calling cards. He has a use in the group, whether he would have a motivation to continue going into places that would get him killed is something I couldn't say.
05fdae No.13915093
>>13912465
There's a rule 34 for gays I guess.
05fdae No.13915096
>>13912390
Look I'm a liberal, fuck whatever you want (except children). But self inserts need to be gassed.
f7e918 No.13915106
>>13915096
>doesn't like self insert MCs
>in a Persona thread
You are in the wrong place.
2accad No.13915240
>>13908691
>that t-shirt from mspaintadventures before descended into shit
FUCK
77fb1d No.13915310
>>13915096
>Look I'm a liberal
Should see a doctor anon, you'll feel like a new man.
3b9351 No.13917014
>>13909661
>that pic
sides retrieveal team status: LOST
Anyway, never played anything in this series, but always liked the designs of some of the characters. Good to hear something good happened to you anons who like it.
I might play this thing one day.
Is it still recomended to start with Shin Tensei from the PSone and work my way throught the series?
09f102 No.13917078
>>13917014
>PSone
It's okay to play the SNES version as long as you get the updated patch instead of the Aeon Genesis one. It's okay to start almost anywhere in the series, really. If you like the designs of the characters you are probably thinking of our lord and savior Kaneko, and it would be better to play Nocturne if that's the case.
5a76d0 No.13917484
>>13898167
>Children's anime game sells well in Japan
I'm shocked.
>>13900734
t. 12 year old.
314ec3 No.13917490
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13915096
>fuck whatever you want
Oh boy.
41184f No.13917772
>>13917484
>If i hate it then its for kids
So edgy anon.
f5fdd0 No.13922772
>>13898167
P5 has come a long way
41184f No.13922993
>>13922772
>But you will never catch me playing a game that looks A lot like assassin's creed in anime form. (Which sounds awsome btw)
b6f1f2 No.13923136
You just can't handle strong independent womyn
b7c411 No.13923147
Question for those of you who know nip. is "prolly" being used as a stand in for casual speech in the jp text? or is it the translator being incapable of spelling "probably"? because i can't recall a single instance in the game where i saw it spelled out correctly.
3acaf9 No.13923178
>>13922772
>only watched the video because it's in the "most popular on youtube" section
Fucking NPCs
cc2c26 No.13923311
>>13923136
Frank West and Hsien-Ko made a cute couple in Project X Zone.
805de4 No.13923429
>>13923311
Do you think he's secretly hitting that on the offside?
9058ae No.13923477
>>13910733
P4G was pretty much what westerners like. Tom boy, tranny, daddy problems and a fag. It isn't surprising to receive all praise from western homos. It had shit dungeons and bad gameplay with ultra boring daily events. Atlus games are western trash masked with anime.
cc2c26 No.13923503
>>13923429
If he is, I hope he's taking pictures.
I don't know, but I've been told. Hsien-Ko's pussy is mighty cold
c0b269 No.13923525
>>13923477
>dungeons
It had one randomly generated dungeon that changed palette every 10 hours or so.
805de4 No.13923594
d08b50 No.13924446
>>13923477
> tranny […] and a fag.
I assume this is talking about Kanji and Naoto. There are many reasons to criticize P4/G but those particular characters seem to be mischaracterized by everybody because of Western game jorunalists pushing retarded memes about progressivism and how great it was that Nips "finally" saw the light. The western faggots are the only people who saw the characters that way because they insert faggotry into everything and people started assuming because they can't read for themselves. Kanji isn't a faggot, he was literally just insecure because he had "feminine" interests Because, you know, his family ran a textiles company and all that shit Naoto is literally just
>bah gawd nobody will take me seriously because I'm a woman
which isn't being a tranny, it's being retarded.
ca6f3a No.13924530
>>13910733
>If persona didn't have the anime aesthetic none of you retards would even talk about this game.
WRONG
I played it to cream the cake, faggot
f59c98 No.13924574
>>13924446
Kanji is unsure about himself because he’s attracted to a reverse trap and he likes to knit.
c8525a No.13924616
f7e918 No.13924663
>>13923477
> tranny, and a fag
The entire point of Naoto's character is to be a pseudo Mulan situation where
>you have to be a man to survive in a man's world
Granted she's retarded about it and got a complex from her father but at the end of the day she just enjoy dressing feminine as evident by her Christmas event where she dresses up just for you. She's already made fun of by adults for being a child detective but her being a women on top of that is just too much for Naoto to handle. She wishes she were born a boy in a "People would take me seriously if I was a boy" instead of a "I am a boy trapped in a girl's body'. It's all symbolic for her rejecting her feminine side and trying to escape it which she simply fails at in the end. (This is a good thing)
For Kanji he's literally paranoid that if he enjoys feminine activities he must be gay. Granted, enjoying sowing may be pretty faggoty, but his entire fighting and violence is him trying to prove to himself that he's manly since fags aren't. He's a completely straight that actually plays against the SJW narative because he doesn't want to be normalized as a fag, but everyone keeps doing that him due to constant misunderstandings from his hobbies and slightly retarded way of speaking. Other characters call him a fag and he hates it. He simply isn't one and it grosses him out. This entire complex developed into the bathhouse situation where Kanji has to confront the fact that he is genuinely terrified that just because he likes feminine things that he might like cock. After getting over it he starts opening up to his interest in girl's more. (Though the Naoto situation didn't help.)
cc2c26 No.13924693
>>13924446
> Kanji isn't a faggot
You sure about that? Unless they were altering entire scenarios instead of just dialogue, it's pretty clear he has at least bisexual interests.
cc2c26 No.13924715
Also, Naoto's pretty cute in Dancing All Night.
e0f6c6 No.13924725
>>13924693
I've always considered him to be pansexual.
0682a7 No.13924763
>>13924725
>unironically using pansexual
f7e918 No.13924770
>>13924693
He's constantly been told he's faggy to the point he almost believes it, it doesn't help he's super awkward around girls. Which makes him think he hates women and thus is a fag. His nosebleed was from the girls walking in.
d08b50 No.13924784
>>13924693
>You sure about that? Unless they were altering entire scenarios instead of just dialogue, it's pretty clear he has at least bisexual interests.
It's a localization, English has less subtlety, etc Also this interview
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201302/02028096.html
Stolen from Wikipedia
>He also remarked on how popular the interpretations of Kanji's Shadow were in the west, and how it did not change how the character was seen by the other audience
This implies that the Western interpretation was not what was meant for the character. As I said previously, people see what they want to see but there is a generally implied interpretation by the original artist and the implication was not
>Kanji was a faggot
it was
>Kanji is having difficulties feeling manly due to his life and interests
The
>Kanji is a faggot
interpretation was created by Western journalists and was picked up and run with by people who wanted to pretend that Japan was suddenly catering to faggots. Namely, Western faggots It then became the popular interpretation with people because that's somehow more scandalous/makes the game more "progressive" and I'm assuming somehow elevates the game to a higher status by people who wanted faggots.
Similar with Naoto and people calling her a tranny. She didn't believe she was a man, she dressed and behaved in a how she thought she would be respected and western faggots wanting faggot stories decided she was a tranny.
c3e087 No.13924847
>>13909882
Have fun figuring out which game came first fucker.
Oh what you don't rike my artistic names?
>>13924725
SHUT THE FUCK UP THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
cc2c26 No.13924888
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13924770
>His nosebleed was from the girls walking in.
Except he had no nosebleed when the girls walked in. He blushed, but it wasn't until the boys got pushed into the water that he got the nosebleed - and he was extremely distracted by them, to the point where the girls had to basically question whether or not he was alright because he acting despondent.
It's more ambiguous in the animation, but it still follows the same basic sequence of events.
In both cases, the girls certainly think the nosebleed was for them, but Kanji has no fucking clue what they're angry for. It suggests he wasn't thinking of them in that way, so he honestly doesn't think he did anything wrong.
3b9351 No.13924899
>>13924847
It's easy!
>Calamity Trigger
It triggered the rest of the story, so it's the first one.
>CF EXTEND
It extends the story, comes second.
>Continuum Shift
It continues the story, so it's the third
>Central fiction
Clearly a fan-made spinoff that happens in the middle, aka: parallel to CF Extend.
How close was I?
c3e087 No.13924910
>>13924899
You almost actually had it, but Continuum Shift actually came before Chronophantasma, the EXTEND actually means jack shit and is just the game but with slightly more content, kind of like Persona 3 FES or Persona 4 Golden.
f7e918 No.13924933
>>13924888
Have you noticed that Kanji's fucking slow though? Have you even seen how Kanji acts around girls when he's alone, he can barely talk, it nearly killed him when he found out Naoto was a girl because he thought back to all the conversations he had. He was bullied the fuck out by girls back in school which made him hate them as a rule and also awkward around them. Being retarded doesn't help him either.
cc2c26 No.13924965
>>13924933
No, I'm not forgetting any of that, and I'm not arguing necessarily that he's gay. Bisexual tendencies brought about by neurosis and self-doubt are still bisexual tendencies. It's just something he's going to grow out of as he gains self confidence and matures. Which is why Naoto is such a good and designed match for him, not just for the obvious thematic contrasts between strength/weakness and intelligence/borderline retarded. They fit together, because they both refute each other's insecurities.
d08b50 No.13924969
>>13924888
You're still basing your argument on the localized version that has been stripped of artistic intent and subtlety in favor of being understood by a western audience.
cd0449 No.13926251
>one of the biggest Japanese IPs can only sell 2 million and this is considered good for them
>In America if a game doesn't sell 8 million units it's considered a flop
881a1a No.13927858
>>13913222
>P5 crimson
>a calendar full of holidays to call it to match the theme of the other 2 games Fes(tival) and Golden (week) but you pick a colour like it's a gen 1 pokemon game
>>13926251
>Persona
>One of japans biggest IP's
Lol they never broke 1 mil in general till you added P4 and P4G sales
d08b50 No.13928899
>>13926251
>>13927858
That is literally the problem with Western devs. They dump millions into a game that then has to sell 10M+ to be considered a success and then wonder why there is no innovation. You can't take a risk when it could be the end of your studio if it isn't picked up by CoD/Madden fanbase levels.
If you can spend less and you still ship enough units to make a consistent profit and maintain a fanbase why would you want to set yourself up for failure if you can't ship 10m units?
c505d3 No.13930079
>>13915096
>(except children)
BIGOT