==ITT: Rad shit in the early parts of games that only make sense on a replay==>Played Metro 2033 back in the day and loved it, read the novel and adored the supernatural shit.>Picked up Metro Redux on PS4 for a pittance in a halloween sale last year

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Anonymous 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:14:48 034ed2 No.13893115

ITT: Rad shit in the early parts of games that only make sense on a replay

>Played Metro 2033 back in the day and loved it, read the novel and adored the supernatural shit.

>Picked up Metro Redux on PS4 for a pittance in a halloween sale last year but never got around to it

>PC patching a bunch of shit all night so fancy some single player offline vidya and decide to load it up

>First mission has you riding a train, intending to head to Polis Station. Riding little pump piston powered 4 man trolley with no roof or anything

>Get stopped after a minute or two by station border guard, the Alexcycovitch line has had a minor collapse and its closed so you have to take 'the back road'

>Comments from travellers how its a 'bad line'

>Line entrace tunnel is sealed with a two foot thick, piston controlled airtight seal

>Head down tunnel, biophosperecent fungi and fog give it a spooky atmosphere

>Meant to sit and enjoy the set piece and watch the guys on your trolley all start to pass out

>Done this go around before so ignore them and drink in the scenery

>"Hey its dark, i'll turn on my flashlight"

>Instantly see shadows standing on either side of the track of people in visible distress and turmoil

>Nobody else can see them

>Only there if you use your torch which you dont need to if you watch the set piece lit by a lantern

>If you played the game and read the books you know what this shit is

>The devs added them only for people ignoring the story, most likely on replays to notice the haunted lines were there right outside Artyoms station.

I fucking LOVE this shit. Additional props to Nier where on replay of the game you notice none of the small shades in the first dungeon are attacking you at all and now you know why.

Anonymous 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:20:07 6d51e5 No.13893141

>>13893115

huh… I remember entire 'bad line' having those all the way from the just by the lanterns light on trolley…

But then again I played it on a pc not on a nogamestation.

Anonymous 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:21:10 6d51e5 No.13893147

>>13893141

> the way from the just by the lanterns

the way from the begining visible just by the lanterns

Anonymous 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:45:47 4ab420 No.13893275

>>13893115

Metro 2033 is a good game right up until you've read the book, and then it's impossible to ignore all of the way more interesting shit that got cut, rather than the boring shit that actually made it into the game. Where the fuck is my fucking great worm cult?

Anonymous 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:51:48 c8400f No.13893303

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So the Metro 2033 book is actually worth a read then? I figured they just used it because it was a good way to set up a linear STALKER style game.

Anonymous 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:54:47 92ff71 No.13893317

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>>13893303

Can we please stop this "Metro is like STALKER" meme? Just because they're both slavshit games doesn't mean they're anything like each other.

Anonymous 11/30/17 (Thu) 23:55:53 c8ce44 No.13893325

>>13893275

>Metro 2033 is a good game

Its pretty average

Its only good on the context of the the year since 2010 was a shit year for vidya bar few exceptions.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:00:56 034ed2 No.13893358

>>13893303

The book is better than the game. I love the game a lot but the book is waaaay better.

The game is: NUCLEAR WAR, MUTANTS! MAYBE ZOMBIES????

The book is: WHAT IF WE NUKED HEAVEN AND HELL AND THIS RUSSIAN SHITHOLE IS FUCKED UP MIDDLE EARTH????

It is a dark fantasy masquerading as sci-fi. Sections like everyone having to stick together as they go through a unlit but spotless station because anyone who goes through alone never comes out is some great shit.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:03:11 4ab420 No.13893368

>>13893303

This is one of those cases where the book is much better than the game, so yes, it's absolutely worth a read.

>>13893317

They aren't similar gameplay-wise (modded stalker destroys metro in nearly every way) , but most of the relevant themes carry over.

>>13893325

It still has better gunplay than pretty much every FPS released since then. An average game would be 5/10. If you seriously think Metro is a 5/10 game, you just hate the genre.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:10:27 034ed2 No.13893406

>>13893275

>Tfw no Morrowind style rpg with a fully explorable metro and surface with stalker level difficulty.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:11:13 126e72 No.13893411

>>13893358

I remember reading the book and thinking it was just post-apocalyptic, but then the whole thing about Heaven and Hell being destroyed with nukes and my fucking heart skipped a beat. The whole fucking universe of the book expanded tenfold in that one moment.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:20:07 034ed2 No.13893458

>>13893411

Its like 'you think this is peak nihilism? HOLD MY BEER' and they bring up shit like "yeah theres no afterlife, your soul is stuck screaming in the pipes forever.

Fuck its the most brutal shit.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:56:12 92e3ad No.13893641

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Ghost Trick is full of subtle references to the final twist that I could only catch the second time through. Sissel's first lines "my head feels fuzzy" is literal, not that his thoughts are blurred.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 00:57:35 26891d No.13893657

>>13893368

>This is one of those cases where the book is much better than the game

When isn't that the case? LOL

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 01:03:16 034ed2 No.13893688

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>>13893657

Step back homeslice, you don't even know.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 01:11:48 c8ce44 No.13893732

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>>13893368

>It still has better gunplay than pretty much every FPS released since then.

Wolfenstein TNO and NUDoom actually have better gunplay than it and are also average as shit.

Bigger budgets though

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 01:20:43 1e28f7 No.13893769

>>13893358

>>13893411

>>13893458

You guys wouldn't happen to know some other books, or book series that manage to hit that same sort of feeling?

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 01:21:07 fabd75 No.13893772

"Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week, I've already discussed the matters with the senator"

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 01:23:18 f45517 No.13893784

Metal Gear

All of them

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 01:29:18 034ed2 No.13893824

>>13893769

The Stand.

>Book opens with military base going on shutdown

>One gate guard escapes with his wife and daughter and drive east

>Days later car literally rolls into gas station

>All 3 dead, faces burst, necks like tires

>New virus "captain trips" wipes out most of the population

>But this isn't a sci-fi novel, an analogue to the devil is recruiting all the evil survivors to fight the final battle against god.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 01:48:16 c2af65 No.13893925

>>13893769

If you want the Fantasy equivalent try the Edge Chronicles. Though they're more teen levels of reading and I read them as they were issued so I might be off. I remember the first read being engaging because it takes place in some woods with fucked up, often inexplicable shit in it.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 06:00:58 2714ba No.13895204

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>>13893732

>image

>A NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

Finally a chance to repost this thing I saved back in 2008.

>>13893641

Ghost Trick was certainly a fantastic look at how to handle foreshadowing in a superb way. Everything that might hint towards a reveal is said in a fashion that feels absolutely natural to the characters, to the point it's only if you know the reveal and/or are on a second playthrough that they wind up sticking out like a sore thumb. To be fair though, I'm not sure if the original Japanese script handles the foreshadowing the same, or if it necessarily utilizes foreshadowing.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 06:25:01 bf6daa No.13895304

>>13895204

>To be fair though, I'm not sure if the original Japanese script handles the foreshadowing the same, or if it necessarily utilizes foreshadowing.

you save the lives of 9 people that night

you can toy with a mouse

the game is full of elements independent of the script that hint ever so slightly at the grand twist

the script might have some different nuances, but you can bet it's full of foreshadowing

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 07:19:21 8a603b No.13895463

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>>13893115

While not really a "early part" of MGS it was interesting to find this on my second play-through.

I was fucking around trying to get into first person and pressed V to zoom in, That revealed (Pic Related) . Kinda interseting that there was always a way to see the true story from the start, I also saw this reflection in a puddle but forgot to screen cap.

Essentially its just cool to see that there are small details that can completely reveal big plot twists if you pay attention

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 07:46:56 2714ba No.13895530

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>>13895304

True, the gameplay/plot related ones would still be there, but I'm not sure of if the textual ones are present as well. If those were ones made by the English team, they did a damn fine job making sure they didn't stick out (at least until the player is looking).

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 07:52:18 329458 No.13895545

>>13895463

Why people hate MGSV because of the story is beyond me. I think it's neat that's you're the legend but not the man. Gameplay is solid though, can't knock that. We're just missing the conclusion to the game thanks to Konami.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 09:14:49 8a603b No.13895860

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>>13895545

I know what you mean, I feel that hating the game was just a meme for a while

Also see Pic Related to see a konami employees response to some questions about MGS V

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 09:24:08 cde77a No.13895891

>>13893303

>STALKER style game

WHY DO PEOPLE CALL ANY "SLAV" FPS STALKER? STOP THIS.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 09:59:24 d8bb3f No.13896012

File: b2141940f82c1dd⋯.webm (7.66 MB, 772x728, 193:182, venom.webm)

>>13895860

I'm so fucking sad over V.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 10:10:01 d08cd5 No.13896047

>>13895545

The problem with the medic twist isn't that it's bad in itself. It's that it was the most basic theory even before release. The reaction to the twist was as follows.

>Th-that's it?

>That's it.

>Fuck.

The game even made it blatant from the very beginning. The twist just didn't have any impact. When a twist is no surprise, it just becomes the worse alternative to a better story. In this case, where are my men becoming demons, kojimbles?!

I certainly don't hate the game as a whole however.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 10:12:41 15d90e No.13896057

>>13893732

nudood didn't feel remarkable in any way to me, none of the guns really even had much novelty to them unlike Metro. I guess if the bare minimum at this point is having a firearm pointing properly down range you may have a point.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 10:28:15 5b7369 No.13896096

>>13895545

>Why people hate MGSV because of the story is beyond me.

It's not the story it's the dialogue. I literally think it's only enjoyed by people on the spectrum because the direction is so god awful that only someone who can't see social cues could miss it. Half the lines make me physically cringe. Not trying to start an argument, I really tried to get into MGS, I really did

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 10:36:18 2019fa No.13896113

>>13895545

Well, throughout the game you were seeing what man big boss into the man he would become, but then you find out it's not the same big boss.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 10:40:45 92ff71 No.13896126

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>>13895860

I now feel even more vindicated in just not bothering to play Ground Zeroes/5. I feel it would just ruin stuff for me.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 10:41:07 59f79a No.13896127

>>13893303

The book is better than the game.

Metro 2033 is essentially a call of duty esque adaptation.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 10:42:29 a85964 No.13896130

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>13893115

In The World Ends With You, the intro cinematic is basically a huge spoilerfest, but you won't know what any of it means until after you complete the game.

You can also see Joshua in the crowd at the start right after the intro.

Additionally, the extra alternate universe chapter that only unlocks after beating the game gives you some backstory on why the main character starts the game as an emo twat, and some of his dialog and inner monologue makes more sense once you know about it.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 11:06:04 8bdaa7 No.13896174

>>13896047

>game pretends it's a huge twist

>you could tell that Ishmael was BB from the moment he did his "I've been watching over you for 9 years" spiel, and then points to himself like an autist

>it's even more obvious when the game zooms in on his ass multiple times during the intro

They could've at least tried.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 12:08:41 82d663 No.13896344

>>13893732

>ZeniMax Doom

>better than anything

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 12:24:51 085e46 No.13896377

Gaunter O'Dimm in Witcher 3. Major character for one of the expansions, but he is a very trivial character before that. To the point that I forgot about him entirely by the time I reached the Hearts of Stone expansion.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 14:14:48 e1bfd5 No.13896646

>>13893115

ITT: Shitty recycled narrative tricks that amuse boring people

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 14:45:58 0ca9ce No.13896764

>>13895860

>a konami employees response to some questions

You do realize that's classic 'my dad works at nintendo' bullshit, right?

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 15:16:36 7a397d No.13896886

>>13893317

Metro was developed by devs who left GSC, the STALKER devs.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 16:01:25 508488 No.13897070

>>13893732

>nudoom having better gunplay than anything

Bitch the gunlay in nudoom was fucking atrocious, i experienced that fucking abortion firsthand. Fucking wasted my time pirating that diarrhea.

Anonymous 12/01/17 (Fri) 16:30:14 ffe54e No.13897204

>>13896126

Ground Zeroes is one of the best moments of the whole series though.

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 00:53:12 869114 No.13899748

File: 8b287da5751b197⋯.jpg (88.01 KB, 640x480, 4:3, vamp2837f2[1].JPG)

"Boss."

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 03:10:05 1dff9a No.13900531

>>13896126

They're both definitely worth playing. Ground Zeroes is "finished". MGSV is universally despised for being unfinished, but the stuff we got is amazing. That's what frustrates people: Knowing we only got a fraction of what we could have.

If I had to raise a comparison, I'd say that MGSV is in the same boat as Fallout: New Vegas. It could have been a masterpiece but was harvested before it could ripen.

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 07:00:42 61c95c No.13901617

>>13893325

Haha yeah maaaaaaaaaaaaaan like everything sucks and is terrible forever, nothing is good and everything is bad, better just kill yourself and be done with it, ASHES AND ECHOES.

Fuck off.

>>13895891

>only ever used to describe Metro, made by some of the former GSC guys

Save this post for when someone calls Dusk 12, You Are Empty, Stalin Subway, or something like that "stalker-like".

>>13896047

>it was so obvious from the start t. guy who got it spoiled by niggerfaggots online that spoil everything

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 07:09:37 b5863f No.13901665

>>13901617

If you don't think MGSV is fucking blatant about you being the medic, then I have a bridge and two or three .jpeg ships to sell you.

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 07:15:55 a9e5f9 No.13901689

>>13893303

I was working nightshifts and decided to read some video game related books. I read Metro 2033 and felt that the book was even better than the game and I thought the game was a pretty good game, a near nine out of ten.

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 07:21:43 61c95c No.13901716

>>13901665

I repeat:

>it was so obvious from the start t. guy who got it spoiled by niggerfaggots online that spoil everything

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 07:24:01 c340d9 No.13901723

>>13893769

Urth of the New Sun saga is the only correct answer here.

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 11:38:42 c2af65 No.13902621

>>13901617

He's right though. Games have only gotten worse overall even if Metro's a solid title.

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 12:16:00 085e46 No.13902718

>>13901716

>Theories everywhere

>Some really good ones, some really cool (like the whole Venom is Decoy Octopus and GZ is Patriot propaganda)

>People make more theories when GZ lands

>Hear Medic's voice is clearly Kiefer's but manipulated to sound deeper/different

>Guys, the medic is Venom Snake, he sounds just like Big Boss and they even go to the trouble of never showing his face

Kojima didn't even try with the big TWEEST. Fuck, he even started off the MGSV marketing and hype with lies that we were meant to decipher and dig into.

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 15:52:53 c40759 No.13903502

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>>13895860

>>13896012

I just wish Konami goes so bankrupt to the point where they beg for Kojima to buy the rights for MGS.

And so he does, and then gives us the Metal Gear game we always awaited for.

But that will never happen, will it?

Anonymous 12/02/17 (Sat) 16:15:02 bd5783 No.13903627

>>13899748

VTM:B as a whole is better in the early game anyway.

Anonymous 12/03/17 (Sun) 22:42:27 000000 No.13911542

Bastion

>Narrator pauses and says something seems very familiar near the start

>Near the end mentions that the time reset device has never been tested and the actual results are unknown

>It's implied you are in a time loop with the reset point being the activation of the Bastion

Anonymous 12/04/17 (Mon) 00:50:37 61c95c No.13912330

>>13902621

>everything sucks ashes and echoes

>>13902718

>>>/reddit/

Anonymous 12/04/17 (Mon) 01:15:43 b287f6 No.13912474

this is a great thread 10/10

Anonymous 12/04/17 (Mon) 01:55:51 7d1c69 No.13912716

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>>13893115

The original Nier was full of those moments and details, as you mentioned. It got much better if you read Grimoire Nier afterwards and have some knowledge from Drakengard events as well.

>The White Chlorination Syndrome that destroyed the old world was caused by magic particles from Drakengard's world being introduced into Nier's world in Ending E.

>People infected with WCS are contacted by gods from the Drakengard world. They either choose to become berserk beasts known as Legion, or refuse and turn into salt

>Which leads to the part of Snow in Summer in the intro. That isn't snow, it's the salt from the corpses of those who refused to become Legion.

>The weapons that Nier uses sans a few original ones, like the Beastlord and the Iron Pipe, are actually Caim's weapons, down to the very same model. They got spread everywhere when he got blown up by the JSDF.

>Emil and Halua were prototype weapons designed specifically to combat the Legion and their leader, the Red Eye.

>Some drops from the shades being colored books, gloves, wristwatches and other mundane day-to-day items.

>Some details from sidequests such as a small shade playing with a child before you kill it off and the shade inside Emil's mansion not attacking you and just checking out books in the library

>One story from the Forest of Myth outright telling you that human corpses turned into Shades at the end

>The most fucking brilliant one being the characters from the Black Scrawl being composed of Celestial alphabet versions of A, C, G, T, the human DNA building blocks, explained in pic related.

I've yet to play Automata, but the original set the bar pretty high in regards to this stuff. I hope to play it soon, and I hope it lives up to the first one's expectations.

Anonymous 12/04/17 (Mon) 01:59:45 de7102 No.13912737

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