c3ed2a No.13870682
For me it would have to be
>1. RAGE (Rockstar advanced game engine - GTA V)
This engine is probably the most advanced engine to date. The amount of graphical quality compared to resource use is absurd. The shaders are extremely sophisticated, it allows for a ton of different shit going on at the same time, and is also used for some good ass games.
>2. REDengine (CD projekt RED - Witcher games)
Here we see another engine that offers top-notch graphics, although the gameplay doesn't seem to have as much depth as one would like, but I can't say whether this is a fault of the engine or just the game's developers. Witcher 3 runs phenomenally and it's not very hard to run the game on higher settings on relatively old hardware.
>3. Source (Valve - CSGO)
This engine doesn't look very pretty graphically compared to some other engines, but is very smooth and optimized.
96ede8 No.13870684
Obviously infinity engine.
232b76 No.13870691
>used for some good ass games
f4be11 No.13870695
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>Chrome Engine
This game literally runs at full settings on any toaster for example.
96ede8 No.13870699
>>13870695
Talking about good optimization.
5a9153 No.13870703
>>13870682
keke gt4 was miles ahead of gt5 in terms of graphics. gt5 looked like a cartoon
34f03b No.13870711
>>13870703
Congratulations, nostalgia and contrarianism has made you mentally retarded.
4090cb No.13870715
>>13870703
GTA4, the game where the graphics and performance were so bad at release that people nearly rioted. Yeahh..
f4be11 No.13870726
>>13870715
>graphics
>bad at release
What?
9d7552 No.13870728
>>13870682
>but I can't say whether this is a fault of the engine or just the game's developers
good gameplay can be made in any engine at all, bad gameplay = bad/lazy developers
>being impressed by source engine
HAHAHAHAHA now i know you are baiting
232b76 No.13870753
>>13870682
>Source Engine
deserves more love for the good times we had ;_;
c3ed2a No.13870757
>>13870728
Good gameplay never made in a gamebryo engine, your argument is shit
f9d77b No.13870759
>>13870691
rockstar table tennis was off the fucking chain
c3ed2a No.13870762
>>13870728
>laughs at source
>is a neet with no redeeming talents
6447eb No.13870772
>>13870682
It always fucks with me that the shittiest of toasters can run GTA5 9 times out of 10.
f2c789 No.13870776
>no mention of the Serious Engine
No other engine I've seen has made any modern-ish game look halfway decent and play over 30 fps on a laptop i3 with integrated graphics and 4gb of ram. Even back in the day, TFE and TSE could easily be run on just about anything that could install windows.
9d7552 No.13870783
>>13870757
uh yeah, it kinda was dumb faggot
>>13870762
nice non-argument friendo :^))))
if you actually read over the codebase of source engine you'll shit a brick with how stupidly and poorly many things are done
oh wait no you won't because you can't read or write a single line of any coding language :DDD
f4be11 No.13870790
>>13870776
Speaking of Serious Sam, which game am I supposed to play first?
232b76 No.13870799
>>13870790
the one you first encounter
c3ed2a No.13870809
>>13870783
Hmm that's funny, source must be so badly coded that must be why I get over 200 fps
Suck a dick you contrarian, hipster faggot
4090cb No.13870813
>no mention of Crysis
That shit ran on a GTX 8800 and remained undefeated in graffix for nearly a decade. Are people still salty their toasters couldn't run it at release? The only engine to defeat it were the devs themselves working on Shekel Shillizen. At least where graphics are concerned. We all know it's basically a $165M art piece.
4090cb No.13870817
>>13870726
Hi, newfriend. The graphics on PC were worse than console at release. Especially the shadows, which were all sorts of fucked up. It was an embarrassment.
f2c789 No.13870819
>>13870790
If you want to play chronologically, start with 3, then First Encounter, followed by Second Encounter, otherwise TFE-TSE-3. Steer clear of the remastered games, because they don't get the cool physics rooms the original ones get. Besides, the graphics still hold up quite well over 16 years later. SS2 is a totally different story and a love it or hate it sort of game. Overall gameplay is similar to the core games but with a few new weapons, enemies, and more cartoony graphics.
f4be11 No.13870827
>>13870817
>calls me a newfag when I called out because he can't properly explain himself
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4090cb No.13870832
>>13870827
>needing to explain something that everyone knows except the cancer that only recently discovered gaming
f4be11 No.13870841
>>13870832
You stated that the game had bad graphics, try explaining yourself better next time.
4090cb No.13870854
>>13870841
Back to reddit, child. I'll give you a headpat.
f4be11 No.13870866
>>13870854
You are trying too hard.
5a9153 No.13870882
>>13870783
bully was so fucking fun. would a game like that even me allowed now?
c2c20a No.13871510
>>13870841
If you don't know about GTA4's PC port then you're new.
4b8273 No.13871599
I love Geo-mod and how it was used in Red Faction Guerrilla. Real shame Volition are a bunch of hacks now.
773ecb No.13871607
Creation engine of course
a5cd77 No.13871654
>>13871642
>devs had so much free time between episodic releases that they went all out
191949 No.13871685
>no mention of Frostbite
Good
>>13870682
Source Engine of course. I'm still amazed at what Respawn managed to accomplish with a heavily modified version of it.
eebd78 No.13871728
Source is awful. They got the amazingly optimized Quake 1 and 2 codebases and what they've done with it? Uses some awful soundcache that makes HL2 stutters for several seconds at every level load or when it needs to load a new sound into memory.
Also, remember how optimized the QW codebase was for online play? Well, forget about that, if you have players with high pings, the player hitboxes become fucked. How people at Valve managed to mishandle Quake's online codebase is baffling to me.
Don't also forget how every update of their Source engine base somehow introduces lots of glitches in their earlier games, Half-Life 2 and Half-Life: Source were notable examples of this.
Valve may be excellent for making character models (something ID Software struggled for years, even Doom3/Quake4 had ugly and bulky models) and creating scripted scenes, but engine development is far from their strongest point.
312e43 No.13871759
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>>13870711
The technology in GTA5 is massively downgraded.
3de921 No.13871761
>>13871642
>>13871654
That's glacier 2 IIRC.
>devs struggle with programming 47's left hand and elevators
But they recently figured out how to make NPC's appear on maps based on conditions from a previous level as well as assigning target status dynamically.
There was an elusive target in hokkaido who was their first attempt at it but it was 1/3 roll pre-determined at the start of the game
8f98e9 No.13871785
>>13870813
>Crysis
Crysis 3 has the best faces in any game ever. Look at this shit, Psycho looks more detailed in the game than his actor in real life!
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8f98e9 No.13871834
>>13870682
>Source engine doesn't look very pretty graphically
HL2 doesn't look as impressive anymore because the assets are kind of simple by modern standards, but the Source engine itself can still be pushed to do some lovely graphics.
4090cb No.13871856
>>13871759
No one liked that shitty melee in GTA IV, tho
6f9879 No.13871873
>>13870809
By merely posting here you are a contrarian, why post here when you can post on the more popular Reddit?
3390fd No.13871894
>>13871856
it just gives some retards something to whine about. It's a way to say "oh this makes a game worse" without actually explaining why it does.
b7b9a1 No.13871978
>>13870682
id Tech 3 for its longevity, for example modern CoD games are still running off of a heavily modified version of it.
>3. Source (Valve - CSGO)
Based on Goldsrc which itself was based on the Quake engine everything always comes back to id. It also features a lot of licensed shit
>>13870783
Strictly speaking only Bully Scholarship Edition was made in Gamebryo, you posted the original game.
>>13870790
First Encounter, HD or original is really up to you though HD's engine couldn't reproduce the physics correctly for some secrets.
f43d21 No.13872006
>>13871785
Crysis after Warhead is a different series, like Far Cry
87fc96 No.13872031
>>13871785
Fuck Crysis 3, that game is the epitome of visual normalfaggotry. What happened to the comfy, nuanced photorealistic graphics of the first game?
Every game these days with ebin grafiscs is going for the soulless kikewood lens flare DoF motion blur EXPLPOSIONS WHOA SO COOL shit and I fucking hate it.
why are prophet's eyes so huge?
f43d21 No.13872066
>>13872031
that's not prophet, that's psycho, you play as prophet in 3, also prophet is a nigger
87fc96 No.13872074
>>13872066
fug, my bad
been a while since I played them
f43d21 No.13872088
>>13872074
you better be, you've mixed up the best and the worst Crysis protag
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3f9778 No.13872153
>>13870819
>If you want to play chronologically
Stop.
6ac89e No.13872157
>>13871759
I actually do miss some of the depth that was in 4, but it doesn't change the fact that 4 took place on a shitty boring island of gray buildings and had some of the worst, least memorable missions of the series.
312e43 No.13872206
>>13872141
not an argument
3de921 No.13872224
>>13871894
Not falling through the windshield everytime you drive above 30 and crash into something ruins immersion!
c53c9c No.13872247
>>13872206
Posting le ebin /v/ Approved™ e-celeb isnt an argument either
312e43 No.13872265
>>13872247
>raw footage showing the differences isn't an argument because it was posted by someone I don't like
ok
3390fd No.13872271
>>13872224
probably makes the game play a lot better too
56f622 No.13872274
>>13870691
rockstar table tennis is the only good game here
3de921 No.13872297
>>13872271
NO WAY, MY GAMES MUST BE GRITTY AND REALISTIC
HELICOPTERS SHOULD HANDLE LIKE TRASH but have more detailed effect on water surfaces!
afd0fc No.13872299
MT Framework
Resident Evil 5
Dragons Dogma
Lost Planet 2
Dead Rising
All games I like and that run smooth as fuck
9d6a86 No.13872301
>>13870854
Headpat me, desu~!
3390fd No.13872308
>>13872297
>mm…muh tetch nolgogy… /v/ heheh
>/v me me techn tology heheheh make gam beter
c6b71a No.13872324
3de921 No.13872337
>>13872308
But is it worse than his video about evil free market economies with spooky music and quotes about narcissus?
>people buy and sell PNG's and .JPG's of knives with their colorful paper with abstract values!
THIS NEEDS TO BE STOPPED
3390fd No.13872345
>>13872337
oh don't get me wrong, I think the consumers are cancer and allow too much shit to happen. crowb is useful but in a sense I wouldn't want to give up on the retards that use him to stress a point that le vidya gaem industry is dead, they're too funny because they're too fucking stupid.
896fdc No.13872357
I still find it very impressive just how bad frostbite is
3de921 No.13872363
>>13872345
his video was exclusively about CS:GO and hat fortress, which have the best system considering you can get rid of purely cosmetic shit and turn it into "real" money
beyond the fact that no money is real thanks to fiat currencies.
i don't understand why would blizzdrones pay for shit they can't even get rid off once they get bored of their pozzed game.
c3ed2a No.13873700
>>13872357
Is it really bad though? It gets the job done for battlefield. It also has some of the best vehicle combat. I only logged like 40 hours on BF4 before I got bored but still.
db81f7 No.13873719
>>13870699
>Talking about good optimization.
So why did you post that picture, idiot?
4aa417 No.13873825
>designated engine buzzword thread
8a64da No.13873921
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>>13870682
MARIO 64 Engine. It’s the last time a Nintendo game had a advance engine and fish AI
feba28 No.13874054
>mountains upon mountains of legacy code stretching back to Quake III: Arena
>no asset streaming
>still hangs machines from 2017
>"we hadn't written a single line of multithreaded code like, ever"
>BSP trees
>non-WYSIWYG map editor from the previous millennia
>monolithic and closed source
>still has most popular modding community after skyrim
b3e344 No.13874089
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>>13870682
Good old BUILD engine, the shit that cranked Douk, Shudow Wario and Blud to eleven.
Even Carmack endorsed BUILD and it's creator back in the day.
066fea No.13874092
>>13870699
Damn right. MGS5 ran pretty well even on a 12 year old toaster.
98e20b No.13874239
>>13872031
The first Crysis also had DoF and a lot of motion blur.
8c9e48 No.13874335
>>13873719
Elaborate how the Fox Engine is not well optimized. I'll wait.
db81f7 No.13874375
>>13874335
>moves the goalposts
Great job, idiot. When you want to explain why your “good” engine crashes 100% of the time when trying to load 25 NPCs (24 works only occasionally), let us know. Animals count in that total, too. Oh, and why it looks like shit graphically.
814cd8 No.13874526
>Which game engine impresses you the most?
I was impressed by CryEngine 2 when Crysis was released. It's been over a decade and it still competes with the majority of titles released today. But if I had to choose an engine today I would go with my own.
At the end of the day it's all up to the art direction and how much money or free time you have for photoscanning assets. Pic related is the future of vidya visuals.
Developers will no longer actually require skill to make good visuals. All they will need is a ready-out-of-the-box Game Engine™ and enough budget for photoscanning every single asset that will be used in the game.
Faces, weapons, rocks, furniture, foliage. The sky will be just a high resolution photograph just like with everything else. No more talented artists. No more hours spend on innovating and pushing game engine and rendering to new limits. Everyone will now work with the same tools, using the same methods and making the absolute same-looking video games with the only difference between them being the budget they spent on photoscanning.
Vidya is forever doomed. Photorealism doomed us all.
3a97d6 No.13874547
>ITT: Nobody understanding engines
You idiots, games that run on specific engines are not automatically optimised. Yes, there are some engines where most games running on that engine run well, but it's not because of the engine, it's because it has good documentation, and engine programmers spend less time fucking around and actually optimising and tweaking the rendering pipeline to fit the style and requirements of that game. Just because you make a game in idTech 6, doesn't mean it'll automatically be optimised, just like if you make a game in CryEngine, doesn't mean it automatically looks amazing. What you should be looking at is specific developers with the fucking skill and talent to make an efficient system, AND the managerial skills to put it into practice
4090cb No.13874754
>>13874547
Yeah, but at the same time, if you make it in Unity you can expect it to suck.
82ce9e No.13874771
>>13870726
It had Doom 3 tier textures in 2009.
db81f7 No.13874781
>>13874526
>photorealism doomed us all
>second image is named “eoin o broin”
You’re right, anon. Developers can’t do photorealism worth a damn. I mean, that’s supposed to be a rendering of a Dublin Teachta Dála and it looks like a fucking forest. They’re way off the mark.
c2c20a No.13874787
>>13874526
>more efficient methods for creating good graphics is bad
Sure granpa.
03c801 No.13874795
>>13870776
Serious Engine in Serious Sam Fusion is kinda crap, I think EDF 4.1 did everything Serious Sam is chalked up to be but better in terms of rendering a lot of enemies.
c2c20a No.13874804
>>13871834
Source graphics are great because they are so sharp, unlike every game made in UE3.
8db468 No.13874813
>>13874375
>he fell for the 25 npcs meme
Goons like you are not welcome here. Take your estrogen pills and leave
814cd8 No.13874815
>>13874787
>Photoscanning and shit shaders is the more efficient method of creating good graphics
Anon I…
3a97d6 No.13874822
>>13874754
Only because you literally can't manage memory since they only language is C#.
773ecb No.13874824
>>13874815
Its faster, cheaper and requires less manpower.
If thats not efficient then i dont know what is
814cd8 No.13874855
>>13874824
>Cost effective=good
Stop thinking like a business anon. Photoscanning has the best potential. But it's used in a really bland and shit way. Every game will look exactly the same because developers will no longer need to get good at their jobs and art direction will quickly become obsolete.
Throwing a bunch of photosannedd assets together and some quick shit shaders on top might look like the ebin next-gen grafix every teenager ever wanted, but within a few years every game will look the same.
Lens flares, bloom, motion blur and photoscans. This is what awaits vidya.
db81f7 No.13874857
>>13874526
>Everyone will now work with the same tools, using the same methods and making the absolute same-looking video games
Oh, like most of the games here >>>/htg/ that use 3D models. Since they’re too lazy to not use the stock people which came with the software, people can make mods for the games that do everything the developers refused to do and fix things for free.
>>13874813
>it’s a meme because i say so
>ignore that it has been extensively proven by anyone trying to mod the game
>ignore that i refuse to provide any evidence that you’re wrong
>ha ha estrogen you are a woman i win now
Reported. This is the best you can do?
db81f7 No.13874862
>>13874824
Explain how it is better to scan something under pre-set lighting and “fix it in post” to get the look you want than to set all the parameters yourself, you lazy fucking twat.
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8c9e48 No.13874972
>>13874375
How did I move the goalposts? You claimed thay it wasn't well optimized and I asked you to elaborate to which you replied with unsourced
c10df9 No.13874983
>>13871761
>new patient zero missions
>get to final mission
>have to kill the creator of the virus who infected himself
>it's contagious, so I can't just walk in and kill him
>looking for a hazmat suit to wear
>'47, the patient infected one of the staff members, you need to kill them both before it spreads'
9a0f8a No.13875053
>>13871856
The knife and bat were hella fun though. GTA V loses so much without the same physics model.
>>13872224
>>13872271
>confirmed for never playing GTA IV
4090cb No.13875302
>>13874822
There are many other reasons, but yeah, garbage collection is one of them. I work on a fairly large Unity game and we're currently going over it and eliminating tiny things like strings that are generated per frame because the GC hitching is such a severe problem. C# that doesn't do GC is really disgusting code. We've moved a lot of lists to private member variables to avoid the overhead in creating them and it's /nasty/.
5996f3 No.13875337
>>13870753
>The Hidden
That game was my life when I was 13 or so. I spent so much time on the forums there and playing the game. I still remember having a video card that was too shitty to actually render the Hidden, and I'd have to hunt entirely by sound going full "Blind Monk." I killed so many teammates on accident
I wish I could go back to them.
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444879 No.13878509
>>13870882
when it came out, the MSM was already saying it was going to be a school shooting simulator based on zero evidence whatsoever, other than R* was making it