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>>13866290

>So Smithing Texts have a drop rate of about 0%, huh?

Grinding for texts is the worst part of the game. You need to do everything you can to increase your item drop rate and luck in order to succeed. This means reforging armor, getting good accessories, using the right spirit, prestige points, maximizing kodama blessing, all of it.

>>13866450

Personally I haven't had that much difficulty with it. I end up getting a lot of different text drops just from playing the game normally, and the ones I've farmed normally don't take more than 5-10 attempts. There are a few that never dropped or took longer, but not normally

Just started but I feel like some times the same attack of mine will do way more damage than other times. Does ki pulsing increase your damage or am I just wrong about life in general and should kill myself.

>>13866776

There's a skill, probably one of the first ones you bought, that raises the damage of your next combo after a max ki pulse.

>>13866788

>>13866776

Probably it's just you attacking from behind though. Even without skills hitting an enemy from behind does way more damage

>>13866775

Some seem to be much worse than others. The Great Halberd of Hiraghi was a huge fucking pain in the ass. After doing 40+ missions against various forms of centipede man I'm about 99% certain that it only drops from the twilight version of that boss fight.

>>13866349

Maybe if she didn't have that dildo hat, I seriously can't take her seriously

>that giant skeleton boss fight

How are you supposed to damage him once you've destroyed both of his legs?

I beat him with some lucky hits of fireshot which did 8000 damage but I couldn't figure him out completely.

>>13866823

I don't even fucking blame you. Smithing texts shouldn't be a random drop in the first place.

>>13866885

Break one leg, run up and attack the head when he falls, break the second leg, attack the head again. Don't break both legs at the same time.

You SHOULD be able to do enough damage to finish him the second time he falls, use living weapon that's what the circles are there for. If you can't, you can try breaking his hands but that's MUCH harder.

>>13866875

Not yet. I don't start making those until I've beaten the game at least once.

>>13866885

You can hit his hands too. He's really not terribly well designed.

>>13866889

>You SHOULD be able to do enough damage to finish him the second time he falls

That was my problem in the first place

>If you can't, you can try breaking his hands

Breaking his hands didn't do anything when I did it.

>>13866885

Just LW with kusarigama and the skill reaper for the entire duration he's down. It typically leaves him so much in the red you kill him attacking his other leg.

Switched to an Odachi from a Kusarigama. The LW is way worse, especially the strong attack which is both slower and less damage (gama LW strong attack is the main damage dealer for that build), however the basic attacks especially mid stance quick attacks are just WAY better at poke and punish gameplay, and they do a ton more damage too.

>>13867052

Yeah, LW kusarigama kind of needs Reaper to be effective, and even then it's fairly situational. I mostly use the weapon as an elemental applier machine against yokai and a serpent strike cheese machine against humans.

I think my favorite weapon class might be spear though.

>>13867061

No you have it backwards. LW Kusarigama is THE best. Like it's been tested and the strong attack is the statistical best LW attack in the game

>>13867066

Has it now?

I never used strong kusarigama attacks aside from serpent strike, the rhythm of the quick attacks are way too satisfying to move away from

>>13867106

start at 4:40

Actually, start at 5:50

>>13867171

Did it to yourself

>>13867171

git gud

>>13867171

Just cheat in some more then

Also, who the fuck drops smithing texts for wizard armors? I don't like the joe.

>>13867234

The best part is

>Oops, onmyo magic basically broke the fucking thing

>Just make it 5 seconds long in the DLC then

Shigezane has nothing on Masamune

>>13867234

Centipede man?

Stop trying to hit his human body, hit his centipede head after he crawls in and back off. Sometimes he swings it so don't do it blindly and you're gucci.

Also after his long ass charge and vault his back is safe for 2-3 seconds so you can get some hits in then too.

>>13867265

>>13867251

It doesn't help that the nigger kills me in 1-2 attacks

I might just play on ng+ a bit and then come back when my level isn't 50 below the mission

>>13867274

That's what I did after hitting Masamune. Just be aware that Way of the Strong doesn't really give you better gear outright, you must soul match +x divine items. (+1 with a +1 or better gives a +2, the gear's effectiveness jumps up every few levels of this).

>>13867122

Oh my fuck.

>>13867274

>I might just play on ng+ a bit and then come back when my level isn't 50 below the mission

Yeah then he'll just 3 shot you instead

>>13867302

Not everything there is still accurate, that video was made when Way of the Wise was the top difficulty and I think they've made some changes/nerfs since then. I've never seen attackx2 anything and his weapon has change to attack AA- as a non-star attribute, which as far as I know is impossible (star attributes can only generate on items, they can't be reforged onto them, making anything more than A+ stupidly hard to get)

>>13867052

I really wish I could switch between the two, but unfortnately they don't share any stats so at least one will always lose a ton of scaling

Is anyone interesed in doing some Abyss Coop? Id love to do some Yokai Realm with a Companion for as many floors as we can manage

>>13867627

I like to coop, but I absolutely hate playing for long stretches.

>>13866285

I think this game is better than dark souls granted I've only player the first level of dark souls so far

>>13867676

>dark souls

>levels

what did he meme by this?

>>13867666

The abyss is better the longer you run it at a single stretch. Defiled items drop in there and when you leave the abyss they turn into divine or ethereal items depending on which floor you left on and how many floors you completed with them in your inventory. So basically you do lower floors to collect drops and leave on as high a floor as you can to turn them into good shit.

Also, Coop in the Abyss is really cool because you get to fight 2 bosses on every floor instead of 1. Double bosses are bullshit solo but 2v2 is always fun.

>>13867718

You can ghost through this mission without fighting at all if you want. I wish there were more missions that really let you play a ninja to the fullest.

>>13867739

"Display enemy Transformation/Refashioned Items" in the last page of basic game settings defaults to Off. I'm not sure if it even applies to revenants anyway though because they never show transformations.

That's the other thing though, like 80% of people are going to be transformed 100% of the time so they don't really bother with refashioning.

>>13867739

>Either revenants don't show refashioned armor

They don't.

>or everyone's a fag

Considering that only a handful of the available armor sets ever seem to appear on revenants, I think that a lot of them are.

>>13867773

Why is that anyone? Are the li and warrior of west sets just that good? I ran iga ninja the whole time, I can't be the only one.

>>13867787

>Are the li and warrior of west sets just that good

They are standard shitter sets for people who get hit

>>13867787

Red demon is pretty fucking great if you run a spear. I think Warrior of the West puts you at the Toughness breakpoint by itself

>>13867808

>>13867787

That said, I ran iga ninja myself. If nothing else the two piece bonus is amazing, but now that I know I do regret not having 200 toughness asap

>>13866492

Goddamn, I still can't beat that lightning dog in the third mission…

I don't know what it is about Nioh but I can't grok the game. I never had this much trouble with any of the souls or ninja gaiden games.

>>13867840

Take your time and learn the patterns

Everything has an abusable pattern.

>>13867840

You're probably underleveled and under equipped. The game is super fucking stingy and a little bit grindy in ways that Souls were not.

>>13867840

Here's a hint: blocking works.

Also dodge to its side, it has wide openings so you can dash in, slap it a few times and dash out

>>13867856

>grinding

>in the third mission

for what

>>13867840

Don't hit his face, the claw attack is the hardest to dodge.

>>13867840

you have to like hit it when it does its laser, its a free a billion attacks.

when it spits out lightning four times, as long you're moving you won't get hit, so no need to dash.

you might want to remember how to kill him because they are repeat bosses in this game,

>>13867892

The only stats I ever invest in are spirit, because LW is always nice, and the required ones for whichever set bonus you want, which you do want one. Otherwise I just stuck with my main weapon stat.

>>13867234

You might want to go to the first three areas in way of the strong before the DLC as the DLC is about thirty levels higher than the last missions in the base game.

>>13867892

You need to spread a bit since leveling up gives diminished returns, you will get less everytime you lvl up.

Generally lvl up spirit to the minimum amount you need for whatever spirit you use. For ninjutsu (dex) and onmyo lvl them up to 30, one or both of them, whatever you prefer. No matter what kind of build you use, any of them up to 30 give a great support and will cap the amount of slots for them (my recommendation is first focusing in one and later when you reach 30 with one start giving points to the other).

The rest divide between two, one for strenght or skill (whatever you will focus on) and the other at any other stat, in your case body if you are going for spear.

>>13867840

It's belly is it's weak point. If you get a hit in while it's glowing you'll interrupt his current attack and he'll instantly run out of stamina, so you also get to combo his ass for a second or two.

>>13867959

And then whenever he randomly feels like it he can stand up and instantly lightning bolt your ass as his "recovery escape" attack.

If you break his Ki bar just run the fuck away.

>>13867933

>>13867901

Thanks guys. Can I respec at some point, or am I stuck rerolling if I want to use different weapoos?

>>13868020

You get tons of respec items throughout the game, don't worry about that.

>>13868000

I always have time for a combo before he wakes up and decides he's had enough of my shit.

>>13868051

Since the netcode isn't amazing/most people have trash internet pvp is kinda worthless since it's more of a fighting game in that mode

>>13867840

Block more

Use ki pulse

Low stance and mid stance are meant for bosses

>>13867892

This game is basically Demon's Souls without the health and stamina stats being necessary. Focus on your damage stat(s) and get 15 dex and magic for cursed weapon and second chance.

>>13866492

>have trouble with this boss

>get to him on mid health

>he's out of ki

>Dual sword ability to spam

>water sword him to death

>win

wew lads

i've never felt like giving a boss the biggest fuck you by just doing that

>>13868170

Mitsunari is second only to Masamune as most bullshit fight. Neither of them really give you a chance to try to fight back or to recover. Put distance on either one and they hit you with a million waves, get close and they go ballistic, and both of them use Wind element so good luck doing any damage.

Where you are, Mitsunari can just be out-DPSed. Facing him in the Abyss is another fucking story.

>>13868170

Human-like youkai tend to be the hardest hitters in the game, as are the few youkai-like humans.

>Giant Amrita chunk continuously spawns amrita fiends, four arm fuckers, maybe other things

WIll it run out of juice if I keep killing shit?

>>13868865

Do they drop anything at all after the first wave? Those 4 arm fucks have a fairly useful material

Is the lion the best spirit in the game? That damage boost is ridiculous. The spirit attack is fucking awful though so I guess it balances out.

>>13868567

I'm yet to try the abyss to be honest it sounds scary

>>13868621

yeah I find their patterns hard to read, hopefully I'll eventually get them

>>13869356

Enko? One of the best for sure,

>>13869435

I've only cleared up to floor 48. It goes to floor 999 and the stats keep going up all the way

>>13869477

Yeah you basically learn what weapons allow for cheese strats very quickly once you get past 100

>>13869461

Kara jishi, the lightning lion one. Every time you use a ki skill you get a pretty big longlasting damage boost.

>>13869559

I guess that would be decent. I have similar buffs from 8 sources already. Attack on dodge attack, attack on dash attack, attack on critical HP, attack on enemy out of ki, attack on amrita absorb, attack on attack, attack on purification, and attack when out of ki. I'm about to put together a set bonus to add attack on healing

>>13869599

That's not counting Carnage Talisman

>>13869599

>>13869601

And here I just playing like whatever.

>>13869356

>Kara jishi's summon

>Bad

It applies lightning mate, it's one of the best by default.

I just finished the DLC, so do I now have to autistically grind smithing texts with ninja cheese builds for efficiency until I get what I want?

>>13869282

I think you ony get amrita after the first two. One of the rocks disappeared, and I don't know how. Just vanished while I was on the floor above it and killed a kappa. None of the other rocks vanished.

>>13870035

Tokugawa did nothing wrong. Also you can't since real life William was a good servant of Tokugawa, he built him a western ship.

>>13870035

I know those feels anon.

I wish more games gave respect to your enemies like that, every one of them except for that asshole Kelly were cool dudes.

I think I like Izanagi's Grace a lot more than Susano. I lose the roughly 17% strong attack damage, but gain Change to attack Spirit A and Increase Attack (Life Recovery), which DOES trigger during LW and triggers off of close combat lifesteal.

>>13870137

>I'm getting vaguely stonewalled by the first real boss, Onryoki

>Onryoki

You best be joking nigger.

>>13870137

Kusurigama uses the same stats as Tonfas and Spears use 2/3s of them.

>>13870172

I wouldn't really recommend Gama+Tonfa, you'll never actually use the Tonfa. Spear might be a good pairing.

>>13870137

Did you put stats into HP instead of damage? Are you wearing heavy armor? Those are the two biggest things that fuck you over for Onryoki, not tonfas.

>>13870301

No, the biggest thing that fucks you up is trying to dodge his wrecking ball spin. Put on the heaviest armor you can and block that.

>>13870307

>Not low stance dodging with dual swords/tonfas

>>13870301

>>13870137

Block his ball spin, doesn't matter if you're stunned, it has a long recovery.

Strafe to the right to avoid his ball throws.

Hit him in the back when he's attacking.

Be careful of his spin when he's unarmed.

He shouldn't even hit you once.

>>13870322

Also note that not getting hit here is good practice because when you encounter him again later he's probably going to one shot you.

>>13870322

you can just dodge into the ball and be fine in WOT:samurai

I can't run this game on my PC, feels horrible.

We never get the Spanish lady, so will there be more dlc?

>>13871101

I bought a controller for this game. and I uninsralled it at the second map, it was really fun at first but it gets old fast

>>13871101

kek this has to be a shop

>>13871101

Muh keyboard and mouse fags can finally stop bitching

>you can parry Iai and charge attacks

wew lad

>>13871101

Wait so the game didn't support KB+M at release? Like how is that acceptable at all?

>>13871376

Compared to other Koei Tecmo PC ports, Nioh might as well be a master piece.

>>13871376

Don't know shit about Nioh, but if it's a Soulslike then I don't see it being enjoyable with KB+M in the first place.

>>13871403

Dark Souls 2 is perfectly fine with a mouse and keyboard.

>>13871163

What do you mean by, get? If you mean her skin you do get that. If you mean actually defeating her no, there won't be more DLC. If they decide on a Nioh 2 she'll probably make an appearance.

>>13871418

But aren't there barely any major historical internal Japanese conflicts after this?

>>13871403

How does that make it excusable?

>>13871421

Yeah, after the siege of Osaka you pretty much have to wait about the black ships and the Bakumatsu. If a sequel to Nioh does get made, I strongly believe it would be set during that.

>Pretty much all the Shinsengumi can be bosses

>Bro it up with Katsura Kogoro and Saigo Takamori

>Conflict spanned a good deal of the Japanese territory

>Plenty of foreigners to go around

>More technologically advanced weaponry, but still heavily melee weapon focused

Is the port any good?

I haven't heard any real complaints (apart from the lack of KB+M, but that will be fixed on the 30th), and I'm thinking of picking it up when it goes on sale.

>>13871843

There are some crashes, the most common taken care of by disabling steam overlay. Performance is reported to be generally good. Coop works if you set your region to limited.

As in most things, pirating first is the best way to check if it works on your machine.

>>13871969

I can only agree with you. The game has several of these disjointed moments, another is in Sekigahara when William suddenly gets angry at Sakon just so Kelley can bait Mitsunari into sacrificing his troops.

Cat-clocks always struck me as a silly concept in the first place, considering cat pupils depend on light and mood, not the time of day.

>>13871969

how did you manage to change skins when you're that low level?

>>13872103

>he doesn't know about the pc-only perks

https://pastebin.com/T5LuVAfP

>>13867840

Circle clockwise, dash in and rape is face when he does his laser because that always staggers him. Never stop walking perpendicular to him clockwise and his lightning will never hit you.

>>13871991

>>13871952

>Hanzo checks the time with the contraction of his cat's pupils

>a technique ninja used at the time

>>13871969

>why would you use a cat as a clock when you're outside

>>13871991

>cat pupils depend on light and mood, not the time of day

You guys watch too much anime. You're bothered by the efficacy of using a cat as a clock, when clearly the first problem is the implication that all ninjas carried a full-grown cat around inside their ninja pajamas at all times

>>13872103

Cheat Engine

Which is also what makes RE4 PC the best version due to the bigger FOV.

I hope someone adds an FOV option for Nioh

>>13872311

Well how do you check the time, you cat-less loser?

>>13872347

I stare directly into the sun like a man, you nancy-boy.

>>13871291

I mean yeah I'll buy it.

>>13872471

>Also I'm not really aware of what half the stuff on my equipment means at this point

There is a button you can press that give decriptions of most things.

>the first real boss

Why do people keep saying this? Is there anything that could even be confused for a boss before it? Nothing has a life bar on the bottom of the screen until this enemy, like all bosses do.

>>13872471

I ran with odachi most of my NG run but spears are the weapon I ended up liking most. It's especially true for human enemies, it has extremely high grapple/final blow damage and lots of ways to set them up. For yokai, it's inevitably different, but the basic spear chains are still reliable, though I do tend to fall back on odachi or kusarigama cheese for those.

>>13872499

Derrick the executioner. He has a bar, and he's a joke. Most gameplay elements aren't even unlocked when you fight him for the first time.

>>13872499

Maybe they're saying "real" ironically, since onryoki is a normal enemy being fought as if it's a boss battle?

>>13872499

>There is a button you can press that give decriptions of most things.

Oh, I was casually looking for one of those but must have missed it. Thanks.

And I mostly meant for "feel" when I said real I guess. Derrick was too easy to get the recognition and that monster just turned into a trash mob. So yeah pretty much what >>13872509 >>13872512 said

>>13872504

I need to try more move sets and see what I like, just got a bit reliant on spear, especially since I pumped Body. But I do have fun with it, I know I'm not using it properly yet as well.

>>13872509

Forgot about that entirely. I was really pissed the first time when they have you use LW, and if I recall correctly, that just ends the fight.

>>13872551

<>>13872509 >>13872512

Hello newfriend.

>>13872471

I started Odachi/Kusarigama. It carried me fine but the Kusarigama just ended up being what I used almost all the time. I ended up picking up Tonfas as my curren 2nd weapon. They are a blast to play with but I wish they were better ki/guard destroyers. Otherwise the Tonfa is great for people like me who want to play Nioh like Ninja Gaiden.

>>13872643

I played a bit with the Kusarigama at the start and had a ton of fun with the heavy high stance long range attack, but I put so many points into body that eventually it felt a bit weak compared to my spears. Other than that I used Axes for a bit but didn't enjoy them very much.

>>13872834

its complete as in it ships with the two post release DLC.

The quality of the PC port is suspect though

>>13872834

I like complete edition better than GOTY edition. It's more accurate, if nothing else.

https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/935058280518258688

>>13872857

>>button presses immediately following just do normal attacks

You need to press L1 again

I completely forgot about Backwave and only used watershadow/haze.

Gonna give it a whirl.

>>13872886

>>13872882

>need to press L1 again

Weird, I'm always just holding L1 after a timely guard in case I fuck up and need to keep blocking.

>0.5 second window

Jesus fuck, time to practice.

>>13872866

This is where DMC gets it right. "Special Edition" is what makes sense.

>>13872823

Just make sure you know when to do the plunge attack and when to just drop, those few seconds you are in the air is the drawback to the scroll.

This is my first playthrough, I went Spears and Axes. I have been doing skills but weapon upgrade wise how does shit work?

Where can I farm summoner's candles? I'm completely out.

I have the recipe to make them, but the materials are absurd and it seems like it would probably be easier to farm the candles than the materials to make them.

>>13872945

Just the fact that I get a "Oh you fucked up but it's okay" card makes it 100% worth it with how much damage the enemies do, and it also gives you a "free" critical attack. I have no idea how I never used this before.

>>13872988

It would probably be faster just to farm glory and trade at the teahouse for them.

>>13872994

>with how much damage the enemies do

I've been wondering about that. This entire playthrough, almost everything is able to one-shot or two-shot me, including trash enemies. If I fuck up my parry timing on a human with an axe, the overhead will one-shot me cleanly for example. It's either play perfectly or die instantly.

I'm fine with that, but when I watch gameplay videos, people only take about 300 damage on hits that would do over 2000 to me.

Am I playing on a secret Hard Mode, or did they patch the game's difficulty up significantly, or what?

>>13873013

Were the enemies debuffed? Bluster + Weaken Melee Weapon neuters enemy damage.

If they wore heavy armor like Tatenashi and had the Oyamatsumi grace set they'd also have around 5k def and 68% damage mitigation.

>>13872988

I think they are in fixed spawns, like hair, but unlike hair it respawns infinitely as you repeat the missions. You gather some eventually as you play.

>find a level 150 revenant on my level 110 mission

>"oh boy, maybe i'll get one of those divine things i keep hearing about!"

>it drops a level 83 pants

th-thanks

>>13873062

I doubt they had anything like that. They were mostly just bumbling around mid-game like me. Maybe the difference in defense between light and heavy armor is just a lot more significant than I thought.

>>13873062

Forgot to ask, does Weaken Melee Weapon work against enemies that use their fists as weapons, like certain yoma?

>>13873115

I'm fairly sure divine is completely locked even from revenants until you beat the penultimate boss.

>>13873121

No.

In addition to that, there are bosses/red monsters that are immune to specific debuffs and weaken melee/bluster are among them.

I just started playing Nioh today.Picked Odachi and Tonfa.

So the idea is to keep changing stances to get bonus KI recovery and attack boosts?

>>13873127

The perfect ki pulse attack boosts lasts for all of ONE attack.

Its the ki you're really after so you can keep the pressure up while bobbing and weaving between attacks.

>>13873123

Oh, alright then. I guess I can keep waiting for that delicious loot bump.

>>13873125

Well, shit.

>>13873127

There's different ways to go about it, and each skill tree has skills for various playstyles.

I generally stick to one specific stance depending on enemy, or whether I'm trying to inflict an ailment and so on.

>>13873147

>>13873137

Are you supposed to level up one weapon skill tree or mix it up?

>>13873167

You're supposed to experiment with different weapons at the very least since using those unlocks a lot of samurai skill points. And you can respec easily so don't worry about investing.

>>13873167

Up to you. You eventually get enough points to max everything, if you grind hard enough.

There are passives that work regardless of weapon littered around all of the trees as well.

>>13873167

There isn't really a wrong way to go about it and the game has respecs.

>>13873167

You can level up two different weapon skills fully in your first playthrough without much effort

Pick a main weapon and a sub weapon and stick with them. If you want to completely switch weapons just respec.

>>13873415

somebody datamine all the icons from the game already

>>13872886

Fuck Yokai, does it work on LW bosses like Masamune?

>>13873123

I think that's a rather ingenious tactic to keep people playing into NG+. Just making them easier to get and gradually higher level wouldn't do it

>>13873482

its basically Diablo 2 design

>>13873490

I don't think diablo 2 actually locked entire tiers of loot behind their second difficulty. A few unique drops as the levels increase, but it's not like you suddenly start finding uniques period.

>>13873459

Theoretically yes. In practice you better be damn good if you want to try that on someone like him.

>>13873565

Also it probably won't work when the boss is actually in LW mode so pick your times carefully. In particular don't even think about trying it when he has Green Dragon active.

>>13873494

>I don't think diablo 2 actually locked entire tiers of loot behind their second difficulty

It locked specific events behind difficulty which in turn locked specific loot.

>>13873459

Your best bet against Masamune is the kusarigama high strong attack. Basically you want to deplete his ki so he drops out of the mode.

I dropped this game after the first level

Thank god

>>13873755

Why?

>>13873732

Only if he's in wind mode, because he's going to switch modes about 3 seconds after you knock him out every time. Water is a lot easier to deal with than Wind. He's slower and he doesn't negate all your damage.

>>13873580

That was the question and why I specified LW bosses. "Does it work against LW", "No", "then it's shit"

>>13873888

maybe they don't know what a hideyoshi is.

>>13871101

But… I already got used to playing it without a mouse

>>13874005

I feel the same way. Of course, this could be a nice excuse to make an archer gimmick build headshotting everything forever

>>13871101

wheres the support for multiple controllers?

I want to use my racing wheel along with my mouse

>>13873866

This has to be shitposting.

>>13873978

I mean what the fuck's a Nobunaga anyways? Is that some sort of spear like the Nigganata?

>>13874059

Good thing I watched Nobunaga no shinobi, I now know everything about japanese hitler.

>>13873978

>>13874059

>>13874072

Jokes aside, I do find the japanese names extremely hard to remember and tell apart. Not that I think they should change them, but it does make the game hard to follow

>>13874043

I know a guy who's a huge souls fan and got this game because it looked right up his alley. He dropped it after an hour because it 'felt like a shitty Dark Souls clone'.

He assumed because it looked like a souls-like it has to play exactly like one. It didn't cross his mind to approach it like a new game and learn the rules.

Four games worth of conditioning made him a fucking moron.

>>13874043

oh it's real anon. I watched him bang his head against the wall on Nue before he literally rage-quit live. It was something else.

>>13874102

Do you you have a video? I want to see this shit.

>>13874091

Nioh really assumes you know a good deal about the Sengoku era. I'd recommend playing Samurai Warriors 2 or 3 before playing Nioh, or else a lot of the impact is going to be lost on you, but no amount of localization is going to fix that.

>>13874100

That's why I got the game, too, and I like it for its differences. I think it could do with a sequel - or at least a mechanical sequel if the story wouldn't make sense to continue - in order to clean up, improve and build on its mechanics.

It's pretty damn good for Team Ninja, since their sole claim to fame before this is tit jiggle technology, as well as a few okay Ninja Gaiden games. Solidly enjoyable through and through.

>>13874155

Well it's too late for "before", and it took me at least three Dynasty Warriors games to understand WTF was going on there, so I'm not sure how much that would help

>>13874190

I'm an old fart who likes the side-scrolling style of the NES originals better. Don't read too much into that, since I'm sure it's a combination of nostalgia and stockholm syndrome talking.

If those games had just been side-scrollers, or named anything different, I probably would have liked them a lot more. They were fun enough, but they just didn't feel right to me.

For that matter, Nioh feels like it's taking the "sort of demons souls kinda game" genre in the right direction with all of the added RPG mechanics. Loot farming and build-crunching are like heroin to me.

>>13874190

The sengoku era is really interesting and rich in nigh-unbelievable events, there's a reason why it's Japan's number one favorite historical period. And I find Samurai Warriors to be a suprisingly comprehensive introductive lesson. Except 4. 4 is utter shit.

>>13874116

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/203679347

around the 40 minute mark or so

he's not a bad guy but just kept trying to play the game like DS even though he should've learned he couldnt

>>13874249

>trying to dodge with high stance

>not a single block in sight

>has power pills but no kunai nor shuriken

>barely ki pulses

this guy.

>>13874244

I think it looks better in windowed mode

>>13874276

>Using kunai or shuriken

They can be alright if you build for them, but otherwise they are a complete waste of hotkey space.

>>13874281

I mean the guy put points into dex, he might as well get the free damage in.

>>13873999

Trips of precognition, see >>13874249

It's all he did,

I spent points on water sword without noticing it's for high stance only. Feels bad.

>>13874190

>Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 on NES are great and third is shit

>newer Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 are great and the third is shit supposedly

It rhymes.

>>13874281

I'm playing in borderless windowed mode.

Actually, I think my monitor settings are partly to blame here. The picture looks much better on my browser monitor.

>>13873755

>I dropped this game after the first level

Anon… that was the tutorial level. It gets better once you make it to Zipangu.

>>13872311

>ninjas carried a full-grown cat around inside their ninja pajamas at all times

You're forgetting that the cat is literally a spirit and not a cat.

>>13874853

No, it's a regular cat possessed by nekomata.

>>13874853

Hanzo cannot see spirits. He doesn't know his regular cat was possessed by Nekomata

>>13868000

Horrible advice.

Once you break the Nue's stamina bar use all your heavy ass attacks, then swap to your low-stance and be a bit more conservative once your bar is almost empty. The Nue will always stand up before calling lightning and it will always be two bolts directly in front of it. A quick dodge to the side or any angle will put you in a safe position and so long as your in low stance and not committing to any attacks dodging will be simple.

>>13874934

Well, atlas bear is a foreign spirit like saorsie, so that makes sense, for giant toad I got nothing.

ok Ive finished way of the stronk

should I focus on like a proper build now shit is getting hard? and everything out leveling me to all fuck

also good grinding spot?

>>13874944

Giant Toad is Jiraiya

>>13875115

I suppose thats just because he is a giant toad form, I dunno.

>>13875115

>>13875111

Jiraiya is probably copyrighted or trademarked in the west by whatever the western branch of the Naruto company is.

>>13875144

That's so stupid it's probably true.

>>13872643

I ran Kusarigama for most of the game. Odachi/Gama was my start, then I went sword/gama. Sword was pretty good at poking in brief weakness windows and for the damaging end of a serpant strike combo (serpent strike, foot sweep, weapon switch, Iai quickstrike, final blow).

Now I'm endgame and switched back to Odachi/gama. The odachi does WAY more damage in a single strike with better reach and control, and odachi LW attacks are way more controlled and better at breaking guards. The gama still has the best LW strong attack for quickly damage-racing bosses. I had to switch to a spirit-primary build so that I could use both efficiently though, as they share exactly no stats. That is, I'm using Izanagi set for A-rank spirit scaling plus A+ rank on both weapons, with 200 spirit.

>>13875115

>but why did they translate it as opposed to all the other youkai names?

There were a few others. Wheelmonk instead of wanyudo, one-eyed imp instead of hitosume-kozo.

>>13875160

A-Rank, not A- rank.

>>13874288

>I wonder if I would just get completely destroyed if I went and tried Souls or Bloodborne now?

Probably not, dark souls has a much simpler combat system, bloodborne is slightly more complex than dark souls but it doesn't come close to Nioh.

>>13874288

> I wonder if I would just get completely destroyed if I went and tried Souls or Bloodborne now?

Nah. Those games are about knowing the system, not execution. Nioh is execution-heavy.

As an example, Capra Demon's famous for demolishing new players, but as long as you know what the poise stat does and how to acquire it, he's a total joke.

Level 570 and I still can't cross a bridge without falling into the holes

>>13875486

>that look back over his shoulder in disbelief as he falls

>>13875524

>soul.

shirikodama

>>13875524

It's the game japanese schoolchildren play where they try to stick their fingers up their teachers' buttholes as deep as they can go.

>>13874281

If you have the mystic art that increases their damage they become good even if Dex is your third best stat

>>13875563

Which they do via kancho, otherwise known as the game japanese schoolchildren play where they try to stick their fingers up their teachers' buttholes as deep as they can go.

>>13875563

It's too bad you can't disable a kappa by bowing to it.

>>13875797

You'd think they'd have that considering the stuff for nurikabes and mujinas.

>>13875524

>I think he's supposed to be taking your soul.

through my ass?

>>13875528

I knew it was something like this but couldn't remember the name, that's fucking hilarious

>>13876010

yes. "… or gaining power by taking their shirikodama (尻子玉), a mythical ball said to contain the soul, which is located inside the anus."

>>13876010

>>13875486

Just wait until you meet the other kappas.

>>13876063

>see a bunch of kappa

>decide to just run in and go all out

>zap zap zap

Fucking I made a huge mistake

>>13876086

The eternal niggaboo, spirit of Fightan games and Dragonball Z.

>you can just stunlock kelly and nobunaga with that jump strike using a sword

Swords are pretty fun

Do you still get Samurai skill points all the way up to 999999 proficiency? or do they stop coming after a point?

I'm getting so damn many leveling weapons ive not used so I can do the dojos

>>13876323

I think the last point might be at 500k, though it's possible you get one more at 999

>>13876376

>>13876323

Also if you wait until Way of the Nioh you can 0-999999 a proficiency in a single level

>>13876389

eh I'm getting 50000 to 80000 in like 30 seconds in wots so not too bad

>>13876397

Whatever works. I think you need to do all the dojos to unlock one of the better farming missions, so it's not a waste. Just don't worry about it too much because the later you do it the faster it will be.

>>13876427

the sword and spear dojo unlock a bunch of misssions and the farming one

>orochi

Who the fuck thought this fight was a good idea? What am I even supposed to do to this fucking thing?

I managed to beat the first phase with arrows, and then the second phase with all of my rifle rounds.

In the third phase there's 6 more fucking heads, and I only had handcannon ammo to kill three of them. The rest just sit there wagging around like limp cocks forever until finally one of them ate me.

Is there a gimmick for getting the heads to pass out? Or is there a gimmick where I can somehow magically fly up to them?

>>13876588

>having trouble with orochi of all bosses

how do you even play video games?

>>13876612

I have trouble with ridiculous gimmick bosses that don't follow the general rules of the game. I'd rather fight 8 humans than an 8-headed giant snake that I can't hit unless I do some obtuse musical chairs dance dance revoution bullshit.

Do I have to solve a sudoku puzzle or some shit to make a head fall down?

>>13876622

>I have trouble with ridiculous gimmick bosses that don't follow the general rules of the game

Its not even a gimmick boss, you are too stupid to just attack them.

>>13876588

You just wait for them to attack and then they linger close enough to the edge of the platform for you to combo them twice. Not even on the platform, just near it

>>13876629

I can't just attack them because they're hovering over a giant death pit spitting projectiles at me endlessly from all directions at once. How do I make them come down to a point where I can hit them?

>>13876639

>they're hovering over a giant death pit

>death pit

Did you even fight the boss?

>>13876649

>also after they use a physical attack

Their necks get close after every attack

>>13876648

>>13876639

You literally can't fall off during that fight, it won't let you off the roof

>>13876648

Can you seriously walk on the air between the castle roof and the giant snakes 100 feet out over the lake?

>>13876662

Well, it'd be nice for the game to tell me that by putting some kind of visible force field around the edge or something. How am I supposed to intuit that the one time cliffs are magically safe is this one isolated giant snake head boss fight?

>>13876649

>>13876639

Alright, I'll give it a shot.

Alright, it went better this time. Managed to take out 4 of them in the third phase before I died.

Doing this with only 7 medicine is a bit rough, since dodging the projectiles from behind me is basically impossible. It's just an HP tank race, pretty much.

Still, it's doable now that I know that I don't have to cower back from the edges like I normally would be expected to.

>>13876683

Bitch the game won't let you fall off a ledge unless you move off it. You can attack in the direction of a ledge all you want and you won't go anywhere.

>>13876695

Attacks generally won't send you off a ledge, but combine some less consistent edges and some more acrobatic attacks and you can fall regardless

Did it on the third try, and it was really easy. Figuring out what to do on these is just the pain in the ass.

I wouldn't have a problem if the entire game was giant gimmick boss battles, because then I'd generally know what I'm looking for. But this is a game about sword fighting against other humans and human-shaped monsters. "Get the snake head to attack the glowing rock so that magical orbs come out and make it sleepy so you can stab it in the head" isn't exactly something you learn as you play the game naturally. It's something you learn in the middle of that fight only, and only if you happen to notice it by chance while you're not staring wildly in 6 different directions at all of the non-stop projectiles trying to kill you.

The boss I had the second biggest problem with was the Giant Skeleton thing. It took me 6 tries before I could figure out how to get to and hit all of its pieces. Not hard, just really stupid and pointlessly annoying.

Actual hardest bosses for me in terms of difficulty, rather than obtuseness:

>Yuki-onna (~25 tries - by far my favorite fight)

>Tachibana Muneshige (8 tries)

>Shima Sakon (3 tries)

Every other boss I killed on my first or second try.

>>13876695

I've fallen off of ledges so many damn times while playing, and there are often enemies designed to knock you off ledges when crossing thin bridges and such.

How am I supposed to just assume that the snake heads aren't programmed to try to sweep me off the edge?

>>13876750

You ran off, then attacked.

>>13876750

Is there really any point to fighting Revenants in WotW/Nioh? You should more or less have the gear you want, and normally they only drop fragments (instead of ethereals) anyway.

>>13876786

you get glory, I'm not really sure what it's used for though.

>>13876803

It's currency at the teahouse. You can buy emotes and transforms with it.

>>13876803

You could use them to farm glory, or you could do coop for 5-10k per run. Killing Revenants is a waste of time at that point.

>>13876786

There's always renown.

>>13876665

I find it a bit stupid you fight Yukimura two times, and the second DLC is really pathetic content wise as a result, but there is the fact they all bring changes for the base games.

It's worth the 0 bucks it is for the PC version :^)

Were any of you ever at the same level as the missions you were running, other than at the very start?

Right now, I'm 20 levels lower than the lowest level mission on the map. That just seems a little strange to me, though judging by the gear-over-levels style of the game, I imagine it's probably pretty normal. If anything, I'm surprised I'm not seeing level 20 revenants around my level 140 missions.

>>13876086

japs pretty mad about him in general

he is always changed to something instead of being the exotic slave novelty he was irl

>>13876891

nevermind I was dumb, he wasn't on a house at all.

>>13876891

None, you just go to the right when you unlock the shortcut once you get to the beach.

The highest level missions are at least 1220, the maxiumum level is 750

>Yuki-onna and Oda Nobunaga at the same time

All of my nope.

On his own Nobunaga is easy, but playing interference for my personal kryptonite is just no. Nooope.

>>13876956

I may be wrong in thinking this, but I don't think minmaxing is as pertinent in Nioh as it is in dark souls. You're sort of expected to try out all weapons to gain samurai skills. Also, do not underestimate onmyo magic. It's not really about damaging spells, it supports melee combat and one spell in particular breaks everything before the DLC where it's nerfed.

>>13876970

You are so very very wrong. You don't really need to minmax in WotSam, but it's way bigger and more important in WotN than it is in dark souls.

That said, attributes kind of don't matter, especially in WotN. Diminishing returns are huge, so besides picking which stat to max weapon damage from (ie you stack "change to attack" bonuses for that attribute and get it to 200) you pretty much get everything worthwhile from every attribute.

>>13876081

For that reason, I've always had full stock of anti-paralytic needles on my shortcut items.

>>13876979

>in WotN

Well, yeah. For NG the diminishing returns are going to be the important part, aren't they?

>>13877035

The * Attack Ki Reduction just means it takes less ki to do an attack in that stance. If you use high attack a lot, then sure.

>>13877035

Honestly there's not a single thing on there I wouldn't reroll.

Ki reduction is kind of meh, hit your ki pulses or use living weapon and it shouldn't be an issue to begin with. Neither of those rolls are partularly high either.

Close Combat Ki damage is another low roll. Odachis are pretty good at ki damage so you might make your strategy around it, but not with that kind of roll.

Equipment weight damage bonus is the best bonus you can have (provided you keep your weight >30.1), but C+ might as well not even be there. You want an A (starts at A- with no familiarity)

Weaken Armor (Arms) is the worst weaken armor you could get. Arms provide the least armor, so weakening them means reducing the enemy's armor by the least amount. Body would be best, but the value of Weaken Armor is doubious anyway. Meanwhile, Weaken Weapons (same slot) can practically neuter an enemy's damage.

>>13877079

The 3 kellys aren't nearly as bad as you think. They don't have boss-tier health for starters. It's also possible to get them stuck on the level geometry in order to fight them one at a time (kite one into the space between the big vats and the closed portcullis gate, the others often won't be able to follow).

Those other dual bosses are meant to be the original game's end game challenge content.

>>13876662

You just made this fight immensely easier for me. How the fuck was anyone supposed to know that?

>>13877151

By noticing the heads floating near the platform after an attack and trying to attack them?

>>13877158

You can cause the heads to fall down by making them smash crystals that overload them as well as hitting them in windows after certain physical attacks like the bites. Considering ledges have always meant death and there's ways to make the heads fall down, why would anyone try to run to their death?

>>13877183

I'll bet you fought umibozu by item spamming him too

>>13877186

I used fire talismans and attacked his arm crystals mostly on the first time. Now I just hug him. He's much closer to the edge than Orochi anyways, and reaveals a giant glowing weak point after the laser, strongly implying you can attack him at the edge without falling off.

>>13877213

Well if you hug him then you know attacks won't send you off the ledge. You could have at least TRIED to see if they would reach Orochi

>>13877222

And risk falling off when there's no clear hint it's safe like with Umi-Bozu? I already said Umi-Bozu is closer the edge. His body itself is what keeps you from falling off, since you still can if he moves. Orochi doesn't work like that since you simply cannot fall off, and I had no reason to think it was a good idea.

>>13876588

It is extremely weak to elemental bullets, 2 or 3 hits kill a head outright

>>13877341

I like to shoot him with a cannon when I get summoned there, but it's really annoying how he will sometimes be invulnerable and I can't really tell when it's OK to shoot

>>13877407

>he's invulnerable sometimes

i never knew

>>13877452

Usually when he's not attacking. The last head especially will be invulnerable for like 30 seconds while it goes through it's "transformation", but the other ones tend to be when they spawn in as well until their first attack.

Gotta kill quick though or the host will find new and interesting ways to die.

>>13877467

I just kinda threw magic bullets at him and won easily. Granted it was only the first difficulty so who knows how it is on ng+ and up.

>>13877248

>this brain dead to experimentation

end yourself

>>13872275

How do you even high five back, other than timing it right (which is really hard)?

>>13871419

>>13877867

your profile has warning signs of some faggot who would post in a steam friends thread and is probably a tranny

I just started playing the game. Do all spears have the same animations? Cause i was expecting pokes and there are just swipes. Maybe I didn't see it right.

>>13878007

Pokes/vertical strikes tend to be the heavy attacks.

>>13878014

So, it's a yes to "all spears share same animations" right? There are no "special" spears with added animations or something like that?

>>13878035

Yeah, all weapon classes have the same set of attacks.

>>13878035

No, but the new skills you unlock keep the weapon fresh.

>>13878346

Get some magic, pick up the sloth and devigorate talismans. Use both of them on a boss and he can't hit you, but if he does, will do fuck all damage. Otherwise, grab heavy armour. Light armour pretty much means you go from being one shotted to being two shotted.

>>13878453

>using ingame abilities is cheesing

are you a souls autist too?

>>13878464

I think Nioh is a bit like Ninja Gaiden meets Toukiden 2, really.

>>13878453

Quit being a fag. 5 points in magic and some hair gives you enough onmyo skill points to throw on a couple healing spells and some debuffs.

>>13878464

probably because sloth is horribly overpowered to the point of absurdity in WOTS (both of them) even after it's been nerfed time and time again.

>>13878572

>How can I get more magic slots without putting points into magic stats?

Look at the bottom right onmyo skill you retard.

>>13878572

Both ninjutsu and onmyo have a skill to get 4/3/3 more slots in the bottom right for novice/adept/veteran. You need a min of 20 points in magic and dexterity to get all the skills from the way of the whatever dojo missions. So with 20 points in either you should have 30 slots to play around with.

>>13878649

In addition, if you really don't want though points in magic, you can just respec after completing the dojos.

>>13878655

Not like you don't get enough free respec books throughout the game.

>>13878676

> free respec books

Sub missions?

If I mainly dodge, what agility grade should I aim for? Is down to C okay or do I need to be A-B? Is it correct that if you weigh more, your blocking drains less ki? So I should choose one playstyle then and gear accordingly?

I'm not a big fan of playing as a complete glass cannon but dodging in C-B has worked out so far.

I'll also need to dump points into either skill, stamina and strength to wear armor later on right? I've started seeing stuff pop up that I can't equip.

Does stamina and body have decent value even if you don't use the corresponding weapons? I've only been putting points into dexterity so far, and enough spirit to unlock the A B move.

>>13877549

When you play Mario, why don't you experiment with every single pit and make sure each one actually kills you? I'll tell you why: because games teach you how they work, and experimentation with established concepts is never necessary in a well designed game.

Nioh is very well designed and teaches you everything you need to know - except the giant boss battles which feel like they were thought up by a temp with ADHD. The "cliffs are safe" convention they use is completely contrary to the rest of the game, where cliffs are so dangerous that you should never EVER be within 10 feet of them if you can at all avoid it.

>>13878679

I've got 7 and am about halfway through the Osaka Summer map.

>>13878683

You can equip everything, you won't get the special effects if you don't meet the equipment requirements. They're listed at the bottom of the equipment page.

>>13878679

Yes, I have 25 and am in WotN. You can also buy them from the teahouse at 800 a pop, so don't worry about ever running out.

>>13878683

Agility affects running/dodging/attacking ki cost, ki regeneration rate and running speed.

Agility B has around 1.1x more cost across the board, takes 1.3x longer to fully regen ki, but has the same running speed as Agility A.

Agility C has around 1.5x more cost across the board, takes 1.5x longer to fully regen ki, and has around a slower run speed, though I'm not sure by how much.

Blocking is affected by your weapon's Parry stat and your total Toughness, as well as Guard Ki Reduction mods.

Toughness has two breakpoints at 100 and 200 where guard ki costs go down significantly.

Also around 200 Toughness you get super armor against most enemy attacks.

In conclusion, get 200 Toughess, stay in the Agility B bracket, do w/e you want.

Remember that dodging in low stance gives you the most iframes and costs the least ki, and blocking in mid stance cost less ki and lets you regen your ki while you block and move.

>>13876956

Needs 15 dex and magic/10

>>13878813

Thank you, that's a lot of things I had no idea about.

>>13878778

>why don't you experiment with every single pit and make sure each one actually kills you

Because Mario doesn't have infinite lives?

>gee I wasted all my ammo but still didn't manage to kill this boss

>I wonder what I am actually supposed to do

you retards are why games have mandatory tutorials. You aren't a human, you are a Pavlovian dog.

>>13878683

forged gear has less status requirements than the one you find randomly.

>>13878917

I'm never going to just wander near [thing that always kills you in game] to experiment, anon. That's something someone with brain damage would do.

>>13878953

>That's something someone with brain damage would do

Rich coming from you who can't even put 2 and 2 together.

Did you have trouble clearing the first level of Megaman X too?

>>13878962

No, because that game teaches you what you need to know. All of the game's concepts are introduced in that level, and they don't change throughout the game.

If Nioh put a giant boss battle in the opening tutorial and showed you that cliffs are magically safe when the boss is bigger than an elephant, then there would be no problem.

I can't beat the vampire lady boss.

This game's too hard for me, unfortunately, as I enjoy the combat.

>>13879109

Equip anti-paralysis charms and the Archer set to be mostly immune to her paralysis.

Bait her kick and umbrella combos and punish her. In the air she takes a lot of damage from shurikens/kunai/arrows/bullets, so you can punish her there - just make sure you dodge while still holding the aiming button (L2) because letting go of L2 will lock you in the put-the-bow-away animation.

Good luck!

>>13879109

Also, if vampire lady is giving you trouble, then you're going to snap your controller when you get to the ice queen. It's a good, happy kind of rage. Drink it in and grow stronger.

>>13878966

>and they don't change throughout the game

Except when they do and you get your shit pushed in because you are not a functioning human but a DSP-lite.

>>13879212

What ninja stars?

>>13879254

Compare it to a much better designed game like Monster Hunter.

There are giant monster battles that "change up" the mechanics, except they don't actually change up anything. The boss is huge and you can walk on top of it, but you can still fall off the edge, all of the normal rules still apply, and there are clear tools littered around for you to figure out logically what to do.

In the Orochi battle, the only way to figure that fight out is to say "gee, I wonder what happens if I walk off the edge of this massive cliff? maybe something good will happen".

It just doesn't make any logical sense that the cliffs would be safe. No normal human being would ever think that they would be safe.

>>13879277

your ninjitsu skills anon. Out of curiosity have you been using your samurai/ninja/magic points by buying and equipping items and skills with them?

>>13879109

Not sure if you're still having problems or not, but also listen for audio cues for her attacks.

She'll say "tch" sound when she's about to charge at you, and she yells when she's about to blast you with her paralysis wave. When she's in the air it's the same, except she'll also say "tch" when she's about to throw knives at you.

She has some nice big openings, but they're hard to see when you're on the defensive. The more familiar you get with her, the easier they will be to see and exploit.

>>13879300

No I didn't even know they existed.I've been using the adachi(longsword) only.

>>13880188

That's a balancing issue. The inheritable ability is too close to something else you already have on the base weapon. Your ability is close combat damage and your weapon already has what looks like close combat attack. There are measures to stop you from getting a weapon with effects that are all the same thing or very similar thing. You can't have a weapon with 4 versions of "break +15" for example.

>>13880254

Surely someone will be able to mod or hack items to allow for truly absurd gear. Not that it's necessary, but 6x break+15 tonfas would be fun as fuck to use.

>>13880272

>Surely someone will be able to mod or hack items to allow for truly absurd gear.

At that point, why not just give yourself broken stats?

>>13880279

I'm talking about for fun, not for cheating your way through the game. Hacking your stats would be much easier, I imagine, but that's really kind of boring.

Somehow re-rigging the game's loot system to take out all of the balancing restrictions would make for a kind of silly and surreal playthrough.

>>13880312

Honestly, I'm still not sure what niche tonfas are supposed to fill in this game. I assumed, based on the fact that they're basically dual cudgels, that their main focus would be break and ki damage, with lower attack damage to balance them out.

But they have low everything except for super high player mobility.

>>13880335

I heard they excel at keeping humans off balance.

>>13880335

Ninja Gaiden fan service maybe? I loved those things in NGII and you can combo with them forever. The gun sticks are my current stand by. They really should be ki destroyers though, it's not even a damage boost that they need because if they could smash through guards all day you wouldn't need much damage considering how long you can combo with them.

>>13880354

They attack fast and once they start they keep going without interruption, even if I get hit by something that does half my health. The problem is they don't drain enemy ki nearly as much as they need to and you get stuck playing keep away trying to bait out enemy attacks just to get their ki lower.

>>13880254

>>13880576

At a guess, I'd say the close combat attack is conflicting with skill damage. They both raise the physical damage of your weapon. The way I understand it is you've got abilities that affect

>physical damage

>addition of an elemental/effect

>elemental/effect damage scaling

>elemental/effect accumulation scaling

>ki damage

>ki usage

>break

>parry

>weaken armour

And there are some more special effects like life regain, prevention of enemy parries but they're sort of one of effects.

I think the way it works is you can't have any two that fall into the same category. So "Skill Damage" and "Close Combat Attack" both fall into Physical Damage and you can't have both. I'm still not certain of it myself though but this makes the most sense thus far to me.

Close Combat Attack (Enemy Attacking) conflicts with Skill Damage.

>>13880626

>>13880628

I suppose that explains it. Is there any reason to hang on to max familiarity weapons then? The game loves warning me about the fact I'm about to disassemble such a weapon, but I see no reason to keep them if I can't even use them to soul match anyway.

>>13880730

I hang on to weapons with inheritable abilities that relate to elemental stuff like "Lightning damage +45%" because they're just a cunt to roll for and I found them dropping semi-often. As you get further in the game you'll find that forging new stuff or just reforging more recent drops is more efficient than keeping your older shit that keeps getting more and more expensive to soul match the further it gets away from it's original level. Until you get level 150 drops in which case you hit a sort of soft cap and you can hang onto and commit to something more easily.

>>13879212

I read you gain passive damage the HEAVIER you are, maxing at 10% with 30.1 weight. This is in addition to the "equipment weight damage bonus" which also maxes at 16% with 30.1 weight

>>13880626

>>13880576

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ATVIr-dSH-n10925y_KLLihv1ucjmYXSSSEg_WqmnU/edit#gid=0

Here's a table that shows the reforges. It isn't 100% accurate to the current version but it's good enough. Most of what it is missing are Ethereal-only bonuses

Everything in the same category conflicts, meaning you can't have two different mods by any means (Reforging or soul matching). You also can't have multiple of the same mode or variants of that mod, even if they are in the "no conflicts" category.

>>13880798

I think the passive weight damage bonus was removed and was added into Equipment Weight Damage Bonus.

Before it used to be 10% from passive and EWDB gave another 5%. Now EWDB gives the full 15%.

>>13880862

Makes sense, EWDB would be pretty shit at 5% only, then again magic/ninjutsu damage bonus only gives about 5% (1% per 100 power but it's really hard to get much over 500 power)

>>13880953

Everything but strength and stamina should be good at this point.

Dex/Magic to 30 gives you the max number of slots,

Spirit to 34 lets you use every spirit in the game, 36 is where diminishing returns hit

Skill to about 20 should really help your ki pulse as well as adding damage to most weapon types

Body to around 20 is where the first stage of diminishing returns on health hit

>>13880953

>kusarigama is my main weapon

You can just pump dex until you cap at 99. It scales best with the kusarigama and as a bonus you get ninjutsu. Shuriken and Kunai can get stupid strong. Other than that some armour sets require about 13 in body, heart and skill depending on the set, lower if you forge them yourself. In my experience you don't really need much in body if you're a focused dodger and you beef up your armour to take the blow when you do fuck up, there's also a ninja scroll I use to account for my low health which is basically an extra life.

>>13880953

moar dex

moar magic

if you're relying on ninjitsu items i recommend at least 99 dex

>>13881165

FYI you get another 10 slots for going from 99 to 200

>>13881050

>>13880975

>>13881165

Thanks for the advice. For now I think I'm putting Skill and Body at 15 or something while keeping an eye out for new spirit requirements. Then maybe dex to 30.

I've been meaning to play around more with other weapon types but I just fall back on the Kusa every time.

Which sword and spear mystic art are better?

>>13881305

>sword mystic arts

Do you block a lot with a sword? Pick the first.

Do you parry a lot with a sword and/or attack yokai from behind a lot? Pick the second.

I haven't used spears much.

>>13881305

Sword better dodge window is nice but you might try dual sword if that's what you really want, it gets a bonus autododge that also boosts attack when it triggers. Damage from behind is probably best, thats how you do the best damage anyway

Spear range/damage art is probably best. The thrust damage actually affects other weapons with thrust attacks, including swords. The other might be more stylish but it's likely to get in the way when you just want to switch and combo

>>13881446

>>13881397

Back attack and thrust damage it is. Thanks.