/v/ - Video Games

Normalfags would still buy their sportsball vidya

>>13855775

Only normalfags buy console games, and they're already perfectly happy with a $60 game plus a $30 season pass at release, after tax that already shakes out to be $100+.

>Do normalfags just spend tons of disposable income on whatever they want?

Is this a serious question?

Games used to cost around 120 bucks as a standard.

However, the consumer ultimately decides the worth of a product and the price it costs. This fails with games because gamers never stand their ground and make shit purchases anyway.

>>13855775

>I have no idea what I'm talking about?

Yes, this one.

>Do normalfags just spend tons of disposable income on whatever they want?

While the press may say otherwise, the general public are not that stupid. The people who waste so much of their money on this shit are actually in the minority. The only way they can charge more upfront without losing much profit is if the publishers put out a higher quality product. That's how it works in Japan with the otaku community.

They are already at 80$ in cuckedleaf land and no one complain about the price.

>>13855775

Stupidly optimistic and a little autistic. Its good tactic for Niche Products if you don't overdo it like German anime publishers with their 20€ per 4 episodes have. You also forget that the economic system works like a spider web and not like a machine. The impulse you put in doesn't affect only one part of the System but the entire system. There are also 1000 ways it could go wrong. What if nobody buys and every game ends up in the bargain bin? What if nobody is buying games anymore? Also don't forget that it only works a tactic to keep normalfags away from niche games, if there are enough cheaper distractions.

>>13855775

>Would increasing the price of games to something insane (like lets say, 100 bucks) for a console game be a deterrent for normalfags?

Probably. Even if they already shell out almost that much for the DLC and tax on top of the game, they'll still notice the sticker price increase.

>Or is this just stupid, optimistic business and I have no idea what I'm talking about?

Yes. There is absolutely zero (0) incentive for publishers to not find the sweet spot between profit and saleability and for now that sweet spot is $60 + DLC.

Stop being so stupid.

This is the entire reason why console gaming is still more successful than PC gaming. PC will win in every metric that tells how much money is flowing but people fail to understand there is less competition on console and every tard will pay full price for the game whereas a significant portion of PC users will buy on sales only and have many more games to pick from (nowadays, games at all).

>>13855795

>This is how it works in Japan with the otaku community

Things are not as fucked as the gaming industry but that's just wrong.

>>13855775

Why can't publishers just manage their money better? A game shouldn't cost 80 million to make, the fact that they "need" microtransactions and loot boxes to recoup costs is a fucking joke.

>>13855817

Most money is wasted on marketing AAA games like movies. As I have mentioned in another thread: Some Studios hire and fire on project to project basis and pay minimum wage.

>>13855830

Already happening online with a new wave of independent devolopers who aren't some Bearded fuck from whimsical Funemployed City.

>>13855843

i.e. compete with PC. And that is all what's left I suppose. I really heard someone unironically saying, that having exclusives is not the purpose of a console, but ease of access.

>>13855830

This anon has the right of it. I always end up taking risks on Steam when prices drop below ten dollars. I remember dropping ten bux on Dark Souls 3 with almost total surety my potato couldn't run it. Turns out, it could! At three frames a fucking second, thank god for refunds. On the other hand, I have never regretted Senran Kagura, which I snapped up for a nice five during some deep-ass sale that might or might not have been a bug. And that doesn't even begin to touch the 2 or three dollar drops that have ballooned my backlog by 600+ games, or getting MonHun Generations FOR LITERALLY A DOLLAR from someone at a call center I was working at.

>>13855775

you're that kike from the other thread who tried to push shareware, you're fucking retarded and people will just fuck off from YOUR games or pirate.

The thing you have to understand is that companies which are over-implementing microtranssexuals like EA are not exactly catering towards normalfags. They are hoping to suck some of them in with small purchases perhaps, but when that happens the dynamic changes. The people who spend the entire retail price of the game again on MTs are no longer normalfags even if they were before, they are whales at that point. Companies like EA are focused on milking these whales, not normalfags who buy a game, play it once and are done. Raising the price in the way you describe deters normalfags because they would not spend that much money on a video game unless they like to flaunt their money. The irony of making games for mass market appeal is that the subsequent entries in the franchise always become more focused in their targeting because the game builds a fanbase and then the developers cater to that fanbase. There are only a few franchises that manage to avoid this; Mario is one of them, seemingly.

But companies are already charging 100 dollars for the full game OP. In order to unlock all of the on disc dlc you have to pay 30 to 40 dollars on top of the base game, which is incomplete intentionally like a demo. The dlc scheme of recent years is yet another clever way of diguising inflation by hiding it in a small and smaller base portion of the game, just like how candy bars and snack cakes are the same price they were 10 years ago, but 50 smaller. Those items, had they stayed the same size would have doubled in price. Likewise, if there was no dlc method to hide price increases, video games would be simply sold for $100.

And no this will not deter normalfags, as already they flush their money down the drain with retarded ultimate editions and buying into the season pass Jew. If you could have data on Xbox live for example, I bet the average spent on the full game plus all the nickle and dime horse armor shit amounts to about $100 a person.

>>13855955

normalfags are slow on the uptake, not eternally dumb and unknowing. Be careful when you say something is forever, because nothing is.

>>13855775

Most games ARE $100 on release tho.

They are $60 and the season pass is $40, most normalfags fork over the $100 for both.

Anyone with a brain and a good sense of money handling has switched to PC gaming by now. Nintendo might manage to stay in the console market by offering something unique that PCs can't offer in their hardware, but MS and Sony both seem to be offering nothing but overpriced PCs with arbitrary limits. I predict that the next generation will be the last for them, and the old PC standby of "never buy a game for more than 20$" will become an industry standard again.

Plus, not having to develop for consoles will almost definitely drive the development costs down and increase accessibility.

>>13855775

> Call me a kike

> Proceeds to sum up an idea that repels normalfags and potentially turns off normal buyers

Just present your idea as is, no need for charade.

$100 bucks is a lot for a game, even when it is a good game that lasts you hours and is absolutely complete (without any DLC/lootcancer). The problem is, publishers aren't as stupid as you think. They are excellent in kiking people out of their money, but they know that if you make your game a single-purchase $100 expense, very few people are willing to pay for that. Instead, they charge the 'normal' price in $60 and make the other $40 off transactions.

>>13855775

If a game is worth more money I don't think people would mind paying as much for them. As it is, people are trying to do less but get paid more/the same.

>>13855800

that's cause our money is worth about 30% less than burgerbucks, I complain about it all the time though, I only buy games full price if I know I'll get at least 50 hours of fun gameplay minimum

>>13855843

>>13856105

>>13855955

This is what gets me about the retarded (lack of) logic of normalfags, a game that includes everything with a standard price of $100 is too much, but if you put the same content together as a "special"or "deluxe" edition, they'll gladly fork out the same amount of money without a second thought.

>>13855859

>I really heard someone unironically saying, that having exclusives is not the purpose of a console, but ease of access.

I know people that think this too. They still always use the same old tropes to try and argue against PC gaming and they get butt-blasted when they're told that their shiny modern consoles are basically just single-purpose, idiot-proof PC's.

>Have to build

<It's not that hard, learn or buy a pre-built

>Cost

<Console quality is cheap and pre-builts cost about the same as a console

>Installation

<Console games have to install now, too

>Patches

<Software updates

>Drivers

<Hardware updates

>Upgrades

<Did you install that new hard drive in your PS4Pro yet?

>Controllers

<Work on PC

>Muh couch gaming

<Connect it to your TV

>B-but we have exclusives!

<Meh, emulators, modding, backwards-compatibility, cheaper games, free multiplayer

>Y-you elitist!

>>13856120

>I predict that the next generation will be the last for them, and the old PC standby of "never buy a game for more than 20$" will become an industry standard again.

I don't know if it will be the next generation, but it has to end eventually because honestly, how much further can they really go? At this point mostly all that's really keeping them from being full-fledged PC's is a proper OS and the inability to upgrade hardware other than the HDD. Nintendo is the only one that actually tries new things, but they'll just stick to what they do and at worst, focus on handheld/portable gaming like they're doing with the Switch. MS feels like they've all but given up and Sony seems kind of content with the PS just being another household electronic device and will probably quietly let it go the Walkman route.

>>13856685

>Meh, emulators, modding, backwards-compatibility, cheaper games, free multiplayer

This wouldn't be an argument if consoles would be nice enough to use RISC chips or other insane architecture. The only argument for them are physical copies if you don't get jewed so hard that you have actually bought a mini Frisbee. The switch is a weird experiment of creating a hybrid between handheld and home console to get the best of both worlds. I don't know what to think about it.

>>13856039

Well, you're here forever, that's one.

>>13856527

sauce?

>>13855775

This reminds me of that one standup comedian who suggested gun crimes would go down if ammo prices went up. Nah, it's a stupid idea that's doomed to fail.

wargames usually do that or they have a shitload of DLC for every single aspect of the game, that's where paradox got their habit from

>>13860341

this worked for the smoking industry, raising cigarette prices did lower cigarette users, but that's a whole other industry so there's not much room for comparison

>>13855794

And subtract the MUCH higher cost of cartidges VS disks or digital.

If the goal is to determine normalfags just make it ganoo slash linucks exclusive, except noone would do such a thing because you wouldn't make a profit.

sage for retard.

>>13857497

>>13860865

If you don't know who that slut is then you're a fucking newfag and need to lurk moar

>>13860865

Jessica Nigri

Normalfags are incapable of properly managing their money. It's not even about "disposable" income; spending more than you make is the national fucking pastime.

This is like asking: if Starbucks raised the price to $30 a cup, would the normalfags kick their daily fake-coffee addiction? No, they would keep buying it and just go EVEN FURTHER into debt.

All this would do is chase away all the rest of the careful, pragmatic game players, and saturate the market even MORE with normalfags.

>>13861036

>not knowing the name of some random 3DPD whore makes you a newfag

Anon, what you're saying and the way you type tells me you're the one who needs to go back.

>>13863678

>Normalfags ruin gpu prices

Well technically, that's autists with mostly nonviable cryptocurrencies.

>>13856504

>money is worth less

>earn less money in general

>games cost the same when adjusted for currency values

It costs more then anon

>>13863879

>that's autists with mostly nonviable cryptocurrencies.

Crypto's been a thing for years newfaggot, it's just now that normalfaggots caught the meme.

>>13863831

>i should know all the reddit memes

Okay.