b66cfb No.13827051
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>gooks are revealed
>map is Skyscraper 2.0
>year 3 is fucking horrid
>includes Italian ops, Moroccan ops, new American, new Anglo, new frog, new Russian, an epic zombie mode, only two maps this time, and "map reworks"
>free weekend ends tonight but sale will still go on, don't buy starter edition and just grind through to unlock DLC ops, game doesn't have microtransactions for essential shit
>no Australian operator who uses mudcrab nets
This game is dead isn't it.
9aca06 No.13827065
This game is still around?
945415 No.13827077
>zombie mode
Rest In Peace siege.
b66cfb No.13827157
>Polish op can revive herself to 1 hit point
>muh hamfisted lore
>the Polish ops are more resilient to each other's abilities because muh lore
>150-mag LMG, meaning not belt-fed which means faster reload
320d45 No.13827170
>Moroccan irrelevant shitskins, more burger special ops larpers, more frogs and le ebin spetsnaz
Do they choose to ignore the actual relevant and interesting Anti Terrorist Units around the world or are they just this braindead?
d2d4e4 No.13827230
>zombie mode
Welp, it was fun while it lasted.
b66cfb No.13827272
>Korean operators don't get Korean guns
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>the gook bitch's ability makes the defender's phones ring, and she can hack phones and get camera access including Valk's
:U
d2d4e4 No.13827327
Twitch embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Some gameplay of the new ops being shown.
>>13827272
I know the defender is getting a
DAEWOO 9mm Carbine
320d45 No.13827338
Here's a list of actually interesting units that have proven themselves in various SHTF situations and aren't larping in ebin hollywood top action movies.
>Unit 777
>K-Commando
>E.K.A.M.
>KORD
>SAJ
>EKO Cobra
>SOBT
But no, let's rather add the most generic and well-known special ops in the planet because we want the teenager audience.
945415 No.13827353
>>13827338
>we want the teenager audience
In all fairness, they honestly do.
77e02f No.13827394
It was dead on arrival thanks to Ubisoft. You dipshits just didn't realize it.
b66cfb No.13827398
>>13827338
>Unit 777
>K-Commando
>KORD
Literally who kid?
>EKAM
>implying anyone wants to play as a Turk
>EKO Cobra
We don't need that many g*rmans.
>SAJ
Not on my watch motherfucker.
>SOBT
Isn't that a band.
d569f3 No.13827460
>>13827051
>an epic zombie mode
Source or you're a faggot
cf6102 No.13827467
>Zoe has impact grenades and 4 ela charges
>and breaching charges/claymore
>in one character
>vigil is a 3speed defender, who is also invisible to drones
OH BOY HOW EXCITING
Fuck this game. Fuck the stupid jews behind it, and fuck everyone who still plays it.
>>13827460
>outbreak event, a co op mode
870982 No.13827492
Why are you guys so surprised? It's a Jewbisoft game. It was trash since the start.
a00e1e No.13827522
>ZOMBOB MODE
no one plays fucking thunt why would we play a worse version of it. JUST MAKE MORE MAPS OR ADD PLAYER CREATION OPTIONS YOU FUCKING KIKES
>>13827157
>>Polish op can revive herself to 1 hit point
>>the Polish ops are more resilient to each other's abilities because muh lore
source? because i'm about to have an aneurysm
a00e1e No.13827542
>Rainbow Six Siege might ditch friendly fire in casual playlists to stop team killing
a headline from PC gamer
WHAT THE FUCK
cf6102 No.13827544
>>13827522
Check jewbisofts character reveal/gameplay video.
320d45 No.13827546
>>13827522
Just watched the stream. I'm afraid it's real.
eca8d7 No.13827557
>>13827542
It just keeps getting worse
a00e1e No.13827582
>echo magically immune to logic bomb
>zofia concussion grenades bounce, don't need reloading, and have proximity trigger
>ela and zofia recover faster from each others gadget
>ZOFIA CAN PICK HERSELF UP FROM DBNO
WHAT THE FUCK
d643d9 No.13827587
>zombie mode
How the fuck would that even work in Siege
d643d9 No.13827596
>>13827582
>>ZOFIA CAN PICK HERSELF UP FROM DBNO
Doc can already do that though
a00e1e No.13827603
>>13827596
but it will cost you a use of your gadget. The animation for Zofias recovery looks so slow that i doubt it will ever do her much good though
0cac37 No.13827621
>>13827398
Here have this.
>>13827582
I hate that fucking female-filthy-frank looking mother fucker so much, and the phone thing is just even more retarded, if you're phone is hacked a second time why not just shoot the fucking phone yourself at that point?
And also Zofia is almost Ash but better because her gadget probably reloads and shoots faster and can also go through walls.
Fuck this balance so much.
a00e1e No.13827626
The one thing I do like from this is the phone mechanic where you gotta break your dead teammates phones. At the same time though I almost wish there was an option to throw away your phone at the cost of camera use so you wouldn't have to chance it at all, Maybe even increase the risk of it by leaving it out in the open as bait
d569f3 No.13827665
>>13827542
Did they change directors on the team or did a bunch of guys quit? Why this complete nosedive into shit all of a sudden?
cf6102 No.13827679
Remember when I said that year 3 would be IDF and some Americans, Russians, and maybe some other shithole country? I guess they replaced the jews with spaghetti jews and just fucking went for it.
73cfb0 No.13827689
>>13827679
>and just fucking went for it.
They're certainly go with everything right now.
FUCKING ZOMBIES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
WHY?
d2d4e4 No.13827690
>Breaches faster than Ash
>Can spam FOUR ELA CHARGES INTO A ROOM
Fucking Christ, the new attacker is over-powered.
>>13827665
This is the thing I worried about when they said they wanted 50+ operators, at some point you're gonna have OP as fuck operators. The Ela Mines and Zofia stun grenades wouldn't be as OP if they didn't slow down your aim.
d643d9 No.13827700
The initial DLC operators would introduce some new mechanic to the game which would shake up the meta, but these new ones are just variations on existing ones, and that's probably what the future will look like. They really should be focusing on new maps on game modes instead.
4b4057 No.13827701
>>13827157
Did you know that GROM was founded in 1990's after an extremely successful operation to move Jews from Poland to Israel with nobody getting hurt or leaving before reaching the final destination?
a00e1e No.13827706
>>13827690
>Fucking Christ, the new attacker is over-powered.
They'll end up reducing her ammo count like they did for ela cuz these cunts DON'T LEARN
d569f3 No.13827708
>>13827690
>said they wanted 50+ operators
I still don't want to take that serious. I doubt they themselves think they can pull it off. It would be plain retarded of them to think they could do it and not have both lose the uniqueness of the Ops at some point and just have balance problems because of the large numbers.
a00e1e No.13827732
>>13827690
>>13827708
The 50+ op thing was said by some suit, not really a dev member if i remember correctly. At this point i would rather have more maps, universal gadgets like impacts, and maybe more guns for existing ops than more ops because they are having trouble with the new ops.
This is fucking wack, I always said that the ubisoft sword of damocles hovered over the head of this game but I'm in denial that it's finally falling down because it's the only multiplayer shooter I like right now
eb5ae5 No.13827734
>>13827157
It's belt-fed. The guy describing it is a frog and kept getting things wrong.
Vigil has a Carbine like Jager, and not an SMG for example.
73cfb0 No.13827747
>>13827732
I'm still gonna wait and see how casual is impacted, but the downward spiral has mostly certainly begun.
eb5ae5 No.13827755
>>13827582
Echo doesn't actually HAVE a phone. He has his arm-computer thing instead.
a00e1e No.13827757
>>13827747
there's an article saying they MIGHT remove friendly fire from casual which is BULLSHIT and would make smoke and fuze more powerful for sure. I don't like playing ranked in this game because i prefer the random rotations and shorter matches of casual
a00e1e No.13827765
>>13827755
I still find it fun because with logic like that, thatcher and sledge should be immune to smoke. I don't feel any operator should get a free pass against another gadget
eb5ae5 No.13827777
>>13827765
Well, no. Smoke has an NBC suit, with a dedicated filtration system on his back. Sledge has a dust mask, and has a ton of exposed skin. Thatcher's mask isn't11 for biological agents, either.
I get what you're saying though, i don't really like that Ela and Zofia have reduced impacts against one another.
73cfb0 No.13827786
>>13827777 (checking those)
> i don't really like that Ela and Zofia have reduced impacts against one another.
What is their reasoning here anyway? Cause they're siblings?
eb5ae5 No.13827797
>>13827786
Allegedly they've had training/experience dealing with Concussion (?)
I don't really like it.
a00e1e No.13827799
>>13827777
>. Sledge has a dust mask, and has a ton of exposed skin. Thatcher's mask isn't11 for biological agents, either.
nice quads, but you're right I'm just pointing out how its silly that echo/ela/zofia get free passes on these things
>>13827786
the video says something along the lines of 'they've both been trained in concussion ninjutsu" or some shit
662a71 No.13827804
>zombie mode
What are the chances Ubisoft could get Capcom to let them include HUNK and Lady HUNK?
73cfb0 No.13827807
>>13827797
>>13827799
Wow, it's fucking nothing. This is "shoot yourself with smaller bullets to build resistance" tier.
d643d9 No.13827837
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Summary video of newest update
>Dokkaebi can use a Logic Bomb twice per round which triggers the sound alarms on the phones of all defenders (with the exception of Echo because LORE), giving away their position with a buzzing noise, and temporarily disabling all camera feeds
>you can turn off the sound by turning off your phone like you would remove Lesion's Gu, which leaves you slightly vulnerable when doing so
>Dokkaebi can also pick up the phone from a dead defender and hack it so all attackers gain access to the camera feeds much like Caveira, this can be prevented destroying the phones on your teammates before Dokkaebi can get her hands on it by shooting their corpses
>Vigil has an infra-red cloak which renders him invisible to camera feeds and drones which works similarly to Caveira's Silent Step, affected drones will have a distortion HUD effect on the edges so attackers know he is nearby, can be detected by Pulse, IQ, and Jackal though
>Zofia is a 2S/2A op with a double-barreled grenade launcher, one barrel containing two impact grenades (as opposed to Ash's breaching charges), and the other four concussion grenades, which can also bounce around corners and have a proximity trigger
>on top of that Zofia can pull herself out of DBNO once per round by holding F for a while, although she's left at 1 HP
>Ela and Zofia have a 50% reduced concussed time against eachothers concussion grenades because LORE
I don't understand why anyone would pick Ash over Zofia anymore
eb5ae5 No.13827846
>>13827837
Zofia is 2 speed, not three speed. Plus we don't really know how good her guns are at this point.
Ash isnt picked primarily because of her GL, it's just a nice bonus.
0cac37 No.13827847
>>13827837
The only reason I could imagine is slightly smaller hitboxes? But their both female so I guess that's also not a option.
a00e1e No.13827851
>>13827837
>I don't understand why anyone would pick Ash over Zofia anymore
speed and gun preference.
73cfb0 No.13827860
>>13827837
Holy fuck, they fell for the counter character meme. They are purposely trying to make ops that counter one other specific op. I can't fucking believe this. Did they change teams or something? This goes against most of the previous design philosophy. I am fucking astounded.
a00e1e No.13827866
Dookiegooks DMR looks fun as fuck though, loadout reminds me a bit of hibana so i might end up using her a lot
a00e1e No.13827869
>>13827860
hopefully they make some quick fixes in the TTS, ubi did actually dial back when the recoil changes got bad reception
73cfb0 No.13827879
>>13827869
I'd be okay with this if they remove the single character counter bs, either remove zofia's revive or heavily nerf her gadget maybe both, and stop the zombies and no friendly fire shit they are trying to pull.
f2f44a No.13827886
>>13827869
Too bad they didn't realize that ELA is the best defender hands down and they need to nerf the fuck out of her guns
a00e1e No.13827893
>>13827879
I guarantee they'll reduce Zofias ammo count by midseason once they realize she'll be just as hard to fight against as Ela initially was. Vigil probably won't get nerfed too hard, he came out fine in my opinion since although your drone can't see him there is still a cue to know he is nearby, feels fair to me. Dookiegook I'm on the fence about. The hacks could make for interesting metas but the phone buzz seems ludicrously powerful
>>13827886
>we'll increase her recoil!
>slap a Vgrip on it and call it a day
>50 fucking bullets on a 3speed so it doesn't even matter if its inaccurate, a spray is going to hit some one
f639e9 No.13827894
>>13827886
I hate ela so much, not even when I'm attacking but when she's on my team I'm constantly getting concussed through floors and walls and shit.
eb5ae5 No.13827897
>>13827879
The Friendly Fire change isnt confirmed. I'm assuming it's a misunderstanding on the part of games "Journalists". Ubishit said they were planning on doing something about TKing, but I'd REALLY like to think that this isnt the solution.
The zombie thing doesn't really bother me for some reason. I'm willing to wait and see what they do with it. I wouldnt mind GOOD pve content in this game, given how disappointing TH is.
9e3bb4 No.13827918
Will Vigil take Sledge's Big Guy title now?
Or will smoke just blow both of them out of the water?
Why do they all wear the mask?
So many questions, so little time.
Also
>Everyone has thier phone set to vibrate
9e3bb4 No.13827930
I like find-the-phone-to-access-cams thing but the whole calling the enemy thing as Dokke dosen't sit well with me. I just have a feeling that it'll be kinda cheap.
I feel like they're trying to squeeze too much abilities into one character here (both Dokke and Zofia)
a00e1e No.13827932
>>13827918
>Will Vigil take Sledge's Big Guy title now?
not a chance.
9e3bb4 No.13827960
>>13827932
You're kinda right considering Sledge can be caught by BOPE to fulfill his master-plan makes Vigil already a small guy compared to him.
945415 No.13827969
>>13827930
Yeah, they're certainly not focused. Almost every other op just has their one thing they do, but they have like three.
a00e1e No.13827981
>>13827960
He's also the tallest according the in-game bios. He's even bigger than montagne.
>>13827969
agreed, its pretty messy aside from vigil who has the decency to just do 1 thing
9e3bb4 No.13827999
Do you think if we were to spark a controversy (with an amazing ability to backfire) about Women in siege are feeling so powerless they need 3 gimmicks instead of 1 like everyone else?
I bet my ass they won't even follow the general CTU gimmicks base-game had when adding onto them.
a00e1e No.13828015
>>13827999
I didn't even give a shit that they put female ops in this game until Ela showed up, and then dokengoble showed up and made it worse. somewhere during operation health the design philosophies just went wild.
73cfb0 No.13828018
>>13827981
It all stems from their need to constantly add more characters. They just get more convoluted to seem different.
>>13827999
You stop that shit right now. So far it seems SJWs don't even know siege exists, and the only pozzing comes from the parent company. The last thing siege needs is pressure from SJWs for more diversity.
e10907 No.13828019
That's what you get for trusting Ubisoft. You niggers fell in love with this game, and now that Ubisoft's ruining it like they always do, I can watch you all suffer as I have suffered.
73cfb0 No.13828031
>>13828019
We all knew this was coming sooner or later.
a00e1e No.13828037
>>13828031
I definitely went into a state of denial before operation health because i was having such a good time
9e3bb4 No.13828045
>>13828015
I can't agree with you more.
I didn't belive people when they said Op Health was the end when it was still ongoing.
It should be called Op Mourge nowadays.
>>13828019
It was everyone's first mistake to like it after they saw Ubi's logo, we all were fully aware of what will happen but foolishly clung to the hope it might not.
73cfb0 No.13828052
So now that's coming to this, siege classic when?I'm only sort of joking
9e3bb4 No.13828063
>>13828052
We can all hope that one day perhaps we'll get the already existing Hardcore mode and DLC-less mode integrated into casual matchmaking.
a00e1e No.13828071
>>13828045
>we all were fully aware of what will happen but foolishly clung to the hope it might not.
I mean i'm not going to drop the game just because these ops sound bad, i'll ride this season out and hell i'll probably still mostly enjoy it, but if year 3 gets worse I'll be hoping another good game like it comes out. There is no fucking other game that does the stuff siege does on the market which blows my mind no one better ripped it off yet
73cfb0 No.13828075
>>13828071
Isn't there some other game that's aping the rainbow six and SWAT games? Ready or Not or something? Hopefully that's good.
9e3bb4 No.13828085
>>13828075
It's still being made by less than 5 people.
Doubt we'll see it any time soon.
a00e1e No.13828091
>>13828075
RoN looks interesting but thats well off in the horizon as it stands. Doesn't look like it will have destruction like siege does, but it will have CQC and SWAT themes which is still nice
c5a487 No.13828095
>>13827837
DokkiDokki's gadget to me is pretty hilarious but that itself is already good enough. Adding the whole camera hacking bullshit is just going to both make the operator convoluted (which seems to be a running theme right now other than Vigil) and ridiculously OP against Roamers.
73cfb0 No.13828123
>>13828095
The dokki and zofia are also kinda contradictory in their roles. I mean every attacker wants to destroy the cams, but if dokki you want as many up as possible, so twitch, thatcher, IQ, and pretty much everyone else is at odds with you. And Zofia with that passive BS you'd think would be some counter for ela, but the fact they're both resistant to eachother's gadget the point become moot.
They really fucked up the designs here. Only one that seem okay is vigil, and even then his gadget is pretty fucking situational, and seems better suited to defending so when obj is droned they don't see you, but he's also 1 armor so he's better at roaming. So many bad choices by ubisoft.
323d0b No.13828132
>>13827272
vigil has a K1 and the '9mm daewoo carbine' in probably the K7 so stop being wrong.
c5a487 No.13828186
>>13828123
With Dokki, they seemed to feel like throwing on as much shit as possible to her to make her seem like some kind ebin hax0r or some shit. Funnily enough, I wouldn't be surprised if she came right out of Watch Dogs. The phone shit is good enough and maybe even a little broken (depending on how they do the sound design. ie; will it be similar to Breaching charges or will it be like every other sound) but this hacking shit just seems pretty convoluted and forces you to pair up with someone.
The whole passive shit is really fucking stupid. There will be no explanation in the game that will tell you about this other than what is revealed outside of the game. Like why add them in there? This isn't fucking Overwatch so stop trying to make this Overwatch with your shitty forced lore.
a00e1e No.13828190
>>13828123
>Only one that seem okay is vigil, and even then his gadget is pretty fucking situational,
yeah although i have no immediate qualms with him, he won't make or break plays that much, and since you still know when he's nearby when droning, more likely than not attackers will just avoid areas he's near, Assuming the range on his jammer is pretty small
a00e1e No.13828217
>>13828186
>so stop trying to make this Overwatch with your shitty forced lore.
agreed, I'll admit i liked some of the snippets they added like how Hibana and Thermite worked together and that Ying hates fuze, but those cringy backstories for the GROM sisters is overkill
73cfb0 No.13828240
>>13828217
hibana and thermite being butt buddies made sense, as well as fuze and ying. But the important thing was that they didn't get weird fucking mechanics stapled onto them. It's like if thermite could detonate hibana's charges if she died, or fuze is also flash proof like ying. Background fluff is all fine and dandy so long as it doesn't interfere with the game.
a00e1e No.13828249
>>13828240
TTS starts monday so maybe they'll be some reworks but I wouldn't count on it until midseason.
a00e1e No.13828275
https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-us/news/152-306359-16/year-3-panel-recap
>Season 1: Operation Chimera
>Year 3 will kick off with a new kind of Operation. We are exploring a new fantasy in Operation Chimera: quarantine and biohazard. The two operators are biohazard specialists from two different countries: France and Russia.
>Season 2
>Season 2 will be more traditional Rainbow Six Season. We will have two new Italian GIS Operators, and a new map featuring a brand new location: Italy.
>Season 3
>The two Operators in Season 3 will come from different CTUs: Scotland Yard in the UK, and Delta Force from the US. Additionally, there will be a complete rework of an existing map: considerable changes to level design and art direction. The essence of the map will remain the same, but the gameplay and tactics will be completely different.
>Season 4
>Season 4 will be a classic Season in Rainbow Six Siege. We will have two new operators and a new map featuring a brand new location: Morocco. The two new operators will come from the Moroccan GIGR.
these niggers better bring yacht and favela back if we aren't getting 4 new maps this
0c13d2 No.13828276
>>13827542
And it's dead. It was on its dying breath but this and the zombie mode is just the final kick to it's lifeless corpse. So what's another game like Seige that I can play now?
9c9f2a No.13828286
>vigil
>over-under break action shotgun
I shouldn't like this so much, but I do. As long as his automatic isn't as bullshit as Ela's I think he'll come out alright. Odd though that his backstory indicates that he routinely takes headshots and survives, but is a 1-armor.
b3fd09 No.13828287
>>13827837
>expose everyone on map at once (besides guy hiding on his drone)
Ok
>hacking phones to access cameras
For what reason? Don't tell me they'll let you access Valk cams too
>double barrel grenade launcher
slower alternative to ash/cap
>can also revive to 1hp from dbno
for what fucking reason?
They're running out of ideas so they've started overcompensating by giving people TWO gimmicks?
a00e1e No.13828290
>We are also launching our third year of post-launch content with Outbreak, the first major coop event in Rainbow Six Siege. Outbreak will take place over four weeks during Season 1, and will be free-to-play for Rainbow Six Siege owners. It will feature an exclusive collection of cosmetics, which will only be available during the limited time event.
"we want the overwatch audience" even though no one who likes siege wants to play with the overwatch audience
945415 No.13828295
>>13828290
I don't know if that's better or worse. On the one hand the zombie mode will hopefully fuck off forever after a while, but in the other hand, for what fucking purpose?
a00e1e No.13828306
>>13828295
>for what fucking purpose?
It sounds exactly like overwatch seasonal events. Which even overwatch players fucking complain about
323d0b No.13828313
>>13828276
you could try an actual rainbow six game. that might float your boat. and if it doesn't….well…then at least you'll be certain you're garbage instead of just pretty sure.
b3fd09 No.13828321
>>13828313
>any other rainbow six game
>like siege
Siege is related to the series by name alone
945415 No.13828322
>>13828306
I mean, I get that, but just what the fuck? I'm overwatch you have complete skins to show off your e peen, but in siege the most they can offer is a palette swap on your gun or clothes, and a charm. Cosmetics aren't nearly as desired in siege as they are in overkike.
323d0b No.13828346
>>13828321
They are like in siege in that they claim to be tactical shooters. Difference is they actually live up to it. I said "actual" rainbow six game implying that siege isnt one
0bbd53 No.13828376
2f81a3 No.13828377
>>13828019
My hypothesis is that they didn't give a shit about siege, putting their eggs in the assassin's creed, division and other games where they put all their advertising and meddled with the most. This meant that siege was surprisingly good from the get go but once ubisoft saw that it was popular they couldn't help themselves and meddled more and more which lead to where we are now.
d569f3 No.13828385
>>13828275
Season one sounds pretty cool with the biohazard theme. If they can get their shit unfucked and get back on the ball it might not be so bad.
Not gonna get my hopes up.
73cfb0 No.13828391
>>13828385
If they just expand on the whole gassing theme that the situations set up it mite b cool, but if it is zombies like it seems then I have no hope.
81ac65 No.13828402
>>13827860
>One op is immune to a section of another's ability
>Two have decreased effectiveness against each other because they do the same fucking status debuff
>Fucking faggots counter characters
No that's not a fucking counter, it's just flavor text being added into the game mechanics. They even somewhat had logical reasoning behind it. It's better to have ops have small little passives against other ops and will make the game a bit more interesting. Granted the whole GROM SISTERS shit is retarded, I would've preferred if they just said they both had experience with their gadgets and were more resistant to it.
73cfb0 No.13828419
>>13828402
What about echo being immune to gook bitch for what amounts to no fucking reason?
9c9f2a No.13828424
>>13828419
What about echo being immune to gook bitch for what amounts to no fucking reason?
>>13828402
>One op is immune to a section of another's ability
But we all know the real reason. Ubisoft couldn't be bothered to make a separate animation for his wrist computer.
73cfb0 No.13828439
>>13828424
It's still fucking dumb. And none of these weird passives make any fucking sense. Echo's not much of a roamer so he won't be too affect by gook anyway, and ela and zofia being resistant just makes no sense because they are both equally good against each other. Why add this stuff at all?
9c9f2a No.13828449
>>13828439
Wait, weren't you complaining that they were doing counter characters at first? As for why, I figure someone at Ubisoft assumes that complex = better.
d569f3 No.13828450
>>13828439
There is only one possible reason for all of this.
They put a woman in charge.
6c874a No.13828460
What's so bad about the zombie shit, it's not like you have to play it since it's just another mode.
I've been waiting for new game modes since they fucking started these season DLCs.
Not happy about other changes though.
81ac65 No.13828463
>>13828419
Echo is more of a tech operator than other defenders. I get a feeling that it has something to do with Yokai being the only thing that defenders can't see just like how Twitch's drone is on a separate network. It's reasonable to assume he's not fully on the same network as the other defenders.
>>13828424
Maybe Echo just doesn't have a cell phone
>>13828439
The concussion status is the only interaction between them. The general idea is that they've built resistance to the nades they've been using.
73cfb0 No.13828479
>>13828449
I am, I don't want it in. But they can't even design counters correctly other than trying to force IQ as hard as they possibly can. They looked at some ops and thought "they need a counter" so they said to themselves "why not these characters that in no way counter them already". It's just bizarre.
>>13828460
There's already terrorist hunt where you defend the hostage. And zombies make no sense where rainbow six has always been pretty fucking grounded in reality. It's just out of left field and feels so forced.
>>13828463
It's still just stupid all around. Why have these interactions that make little sense and won't matter? For example cav is immune to jackal's sensor only when she is using silent step, and that makes some sense, and because jackal is specifically anti roamer it matters. These just feel ham fisted for the sole reason of adding character interactions no one cares about and make people try to counter pick.
c5a487 No.13828487
>>13828463
My problem with this shit is that no one will know about this unless they shit outside of the game or realize it while playing themselves. It's hidden shit that's unnecessarily added.
323d0b No.13828498
>>13828479
>grounded in reality
No.
a00e1e No.13828511
>>13828498
up until red crow the gadgets weren't that far fetched
73cfb0 No.13828525
>>13828498
>>13828511
Even with invisible roombas, emps, and drone invis, that's normal compared to fucking zombies.
77e02f No.13828539
>>13828460
>What’s so bad about zombie shit
>Zombie shit
>In 2017 comin on 2018
There’s your answer. It’s the laziest thing they could come up with to shut retards like you up who just wanted modes.
323d0b No.13828541
>>13828511
Again, No. Sledge and ash…smoke, tachanka, shotguns, flashbangs…none of it is remotely realistic.
323d0b No.13828547
>>13828539
Mate you have literally 0 room to call anyone retarded. You play siege. Willingly. You probably even paid for it.
73cfb0 No.13828548
>>13828541
Do tell how, or are you just gonna sperg out about how it isn't ARMA
81ac65 No.13828552
>>13828479
>Why have these interactions that make little sense and won't matter?
>>13828487
>It's hidden shit that's unnecessarily added.
<What is flavor text
It's not supposed to matter in a large and impactful way as how Cav doesn't leave footsteps while in silent step. It's just a bit more interactive as specific voice lines. Do you people not remember how game devs used to put in small non important shit in games just because it would be neat to have it in the game?
b0e464 No.13828556
4d1ebf No.13828563
>>13828556
Sledge resigned!
81ac65 No.13828565
>>13828548
On a side note I would argue why in comp mm they don't turn on realism mode.
73cfb0 No.13828568
>>13828552
It's not fucking text though. It's dumb shit that makes no sense. You want to have the characters be in a satanic death cult together fine, whatever, but don't touch the gameplay. And these aren't neat little interactions either, like how kapkans laser used to be blocked by objects like c4, it's just unnecessary shit that fucks with balancing.
323d0b No.13828569
>>13828548
sledge breaks apart neat squares with every hit, ash has "breaching rounds" that are hollywood-tier drill grenades, flashbangs have a 1 meter effective radius, same with the effective range of shotguns. You're playing a more restricted version of call of duty, mate, don't get it twisted.
c5a487 No.13828580
>>13828552
This would be fine in a game that's not a competitive 5v5 FPS game, you dumb shit.
9c9f2a No.13828581
If the defenders could toss their phone down when they know a DokiDoki is on the attacking side, that'd actually be an interesting interaction, since dropping it on the opposite side of a room could trick her. But we all know that won't happen.
b0e464 No.13828582
>>13828217
>>13828240
The lore was made to make up for not having an official season or map I guess
73cfb0 No.13828584
>>13828569
That's just for the sake of gameplay. If sledge had to actually stand there and hit shit until is made a human sized hole it would be fucking dumb. But then again you're retarded enough to think this shit is anything like call of duty.
d569f3 No.13828591
>>13828460
>What's so bad about the zombie shit
They could have done something that makes sense. Like having a small minimal campaign for each CTU or even just each CTU from the base game. Or just make actual co-op missions. Anything, really.
d569f3 No.13828607
>>13828569
>being this obtuse on purpose
Dude, you don't like the game. We get it, you don't have to. Plenty of reason to dislike it, but you're really being retarded on purpose here, especially when you compare it to bloody zombies.
b0e464 No.13828616
>Going back Russia/Britain
>Probably going to be one of like the 20 different Spetnaz or something else
Atleast best boys wont have any icky girls joining them
323d0b No.13828618
>>13828584
>weapons have no recoil which leads to more spray headshots than aimed ones by an order of magnitude
>garish weapon skins and charms
>matchmaking
>moving fast is rewarded more than tactical play because the aforementioned lack of recoil.
But it doesn't have dolphin diving so i guess its nothing like call of duty.
323d0b No.13828622
>>13828607
>facts are obtuse
b0e464 No.13828628
>>13828618
Siege truly is COD now 3 speeds rule the meta and its better to run around than play tactical
c5a487 No.13828630
>>13828618
>moving fast is rewarded more than tactical play because the aforementioned lack of recoil.
Now hold the fuck on. The game encourages moving slow but acting fast. Running around with the sprint key held down will get you killed way more than not.
323d0b No.13828641
>>13828630
You've never seen """""""""""pro""""""""""" play.
73cfb0 No.13828642
>>13828618
>weapons have no recoil
I am laffing.
>garish weapon skins and charms
I'll give you that.
>matchmaking
and? Having a server browser in siege would be stupid.
>moving fast is rewarded more than tactical play because the aforementioned lack of recoil.
Please go and try that, I'd love to see your ass get destroyed by the gorrillion traps and roamers everywhere.
d569f3 No.13828648
>>13828630
He's just fishing for replies now.
323d0b No.13828651
>>13828642
>having a server browser in a multiplayer game would be stupid
Time to end yourself!
73cfb0 No.13828657
>>13828651
Putting it in is stupid. It's not a big hectic shooter that a person coming or going makes no difference. Joining in halfway would not be fun.
323d0b No.13828661
>>13828642
also the weapons dont have recoil, which ubisoft admitted and is currently trying to change. do you really argue with the devs when they say their guns don't kick? special kind of deluded.
73cfb0 No.13828664
>>13828661
Show me the proofs nigger.
b0e464 No.13828667
Year 2 rating
>Velvet Shell
Actually hype Sieges future looked bright great map and operators to boot
>Operation """"HEALTH"""""
You know this shit show moving on
>Operation Blood Orchid
Start of siege down fall completely cuck the Polish season Hong Kong operators were good but they were using main land weapons and terrible map
>Operation White Noise
Ubisoft thinks people enjoy the fucking sisters meme for GROM completely fuck that shit. South Korea has a fucking meme super hacker GURL!!! However it also has one of the best looking DLC operators at the same time. Sieges downfall has been put in motion especially with year 3 revealed
a00e1e No.13828683
>>13828616
>Atleast best boys wont have any icky girls joining them
don't count your chickens, they had the audacity to give us grom sisters instead of a male polish op already
>>13828667
velvet shell was a fucking nice season too, really had my hopes up, fun map and two fun/interesting operators and then HELF happened
323d0b No.13828685
>>13828664
read the devblog. they talk extensively about it but basically just say its not actual recoil, just reticule offset which is what CoD does
323d0b No.13828689
but ubisoft says its a tactical shooter and its titled rainbow six it must be a true tactical shooter for tactical gamers!
73cfb0 No.13828691
>>13828685
>just say its not actual recoil, just reticule offset which is what CoD does
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
b0e464 No.13828692
>>13828689
I always liked siege since it was Arcade Tactical it was autistic like arma but was not that fast like COD
323d0b No.13828697
>>13828691
it is fucking nothing, which is why they're changing it to be something.
b0e464 No.13828704
You know what REALLY bums me out? The new map looks like something out of an old rainbow 6 game but then I remember this games MP only
73cfb0 No.13828706
>>13828697
It doesn't mean there is no recoil, just the exact mechanics behind it are different.
15850b No.13828708
Question. Why do all of the Asian characters look like a happas and notAsians? Also, why the fuck is there a pole girl with dyed hair? What is military protocol and grooming standards?
323d0b No.13828715
>>13828706
Different in such a way that it rewards spraying with headshots. I've seen it and done it so much and just shake my head every time.
81ac65 No.13828716
>>13828651
You're fucking retarded, joining in-progress matches in siege is fucking horrendous.
>>13828657
It isn't fun, but easy to get games done quicker if you want to increase chance on the pack things.
>>13828568
Having a 50% resistance to your own concussion nades isn't that huge of a detail. Echo not having an annoying phone is a larger interaction, but it's still not huge
>>13828580
Seige is as competitive as CoD. There are still bugs and desync issues with this game after all this fucking time, I would not consider this a competitive game.
323d0b No.13828732
>>13828716
why? because the matches are first to 3? (to appeal to casuals). I know it isnt horrendous because you dont have team synergy or some bullshit.
b0e464 No.13828758
>>13828377
I will never get the "Siege was a fluke meme" they got fucking Idris Elba to do a commercial for it they obviously cared about the game and even used it to kick start their free DLC updates idea
73cfb0 No.13828772
>>13828758
Because IIRC it had abysmal sales number out of the gate, and had only gotten more players after year one.
81ac65 No.13828778
>>13828732
Games are so short that joining an in-progress match wastes more time than getting into a new game. Usually when fuckers drop out of the game, they'll be down either 1 round or 2. You join in and miss another round due to being dead already or that the game can't fucking delay the other players from starting for just fucking 10 seconds so you can at least get auto locked to recruit or whatever op you played last.
Having a server browser will mean no game will start with a full 10 people.
b0e464 No.13828793
>>13828772
I think people fail to realize how much consoles can do I dont play on console im a PC player. However Siege is immensely popular on consoles
323d0b No.13828909
>>13828758
the "content updates are DLC" meme needs to die.
33570c No.13828934
>>13827621
>46 of 3 suspects dead
Ebin
33570c No.13829010
>>13828651
>(19) post of shit game, this is bad, worst rb6 ever, you are dumb, this is dumb
Are you lost? You know that you need a 4 and not a 8 in the http?
323d0b No.13829022
>>13829010
>plays codclone
>calls others cuckchan
33570c No.13829037
>>13829022
>he keep posting in a thread of a game he doesn't like
Isn't rule 8 against shitposter like you?
a00e1e No.13829040
>>13828758
Siege was a fluke in the sense there was no reason for it to come out as enjoyable as it did. With some of the new operators it makes me believe more that some things the game did right were accidents
160a87 No.13829049
>>13829022
I'd say its more of a CS clone with generic FPS features.
81ac65 No.13829069
>>13829049
Everything is a CoD clone to a shitposter anonkun.
33570c No.13829074
>>13829040
Naaa I really think the other anon above got it right, since WEWuz failed and siege kept increasing is getting into the radar of jew CEO and they want to cash it now
>siege is a nice fluke
>watchdog fail
>siege keep growing
>the division is shit
>siege grows now more ELS events
>for honor fail
>siege keep growing now with lootbox alpha pack
>WEWUZ is shit
>well time to cash the cow guys, make a zombie mode take TK out and this operators are now like 3 special
Was good, it got bad and bad more the rest of ubishit market got canned
33570c No.13829086
>>13829069
>posting on a the dark souls of chans
>pretending everything isn't a cod clone
Check out this faggot
just report that moron and move on, anon.
a00e1e No.13829100
>>13829074
its a shame how fucking braindead the suits are
>the game that is a fairly pure "game" experience grows over open world experiences and lootbox riddled multiplayer
>players are adaptive, finding new metas and tricks despite no player created content available
>players LIKE this, keep playing, biggest general complaints are funky hitreg and networking
<oh the kids are playing this one? surely they want the shit from other games that are losing players?
>add alpha packs
>add donut steel operators
>over complicate the new operators
>add game modes no one asked for in a "LIMITED TIME" event
>REMOVE fucking maps from casual set list
I'd say "who asked for this shit?" but since i don't visit siege forums or reddit i'm sure the mongoloids there thought shit like that was cool
323d0b No.13829113
>>13829069
>game has no recoil
direct influence of call of duty. cod4 specifically.
>always a team deathmatch no matter the mode
speaks for itself really. to deny this shit is call of duty in small buildings is a level of retarded I've rarely seen. kudos i guess.
ac8129 No.13829132
>>13827338
>Unit 777
In a SHTF scenario, they're the fan.
b0e464 No.13829134
>>13829074
WeWUZ didnt fail
a00e1e No.13829143
So i was curious about this "scotland yard" operator and i guess since bongistan is a shithole the did set up some special weapons units over there. Didn't do a lot of digging because most articles were like "UWAA WHY DO THESE COPS LOOK SCARY?. I have little hope that the devs recent design philosophies would actually make these guys look like real SWAT members anymore though but if they're like what i've seen in some pics it would be cool
b0e464 No.13829149
>>13829143
DLC shield operator?
33570c No.13829151
>>13829134
>worst sales since unity
>didn't fail
>>13829100 (noice)
Yeah, which is why siege was good till before operation health. Now we can only hope another game will improve sales and sway the sight of suits elsewhere before they force the implementation of this new shit
>>13829113
>no recoil
>dev literally make a season to fix recoil and hitbox
>if it have deathmarch is cod clone
Shit I didn't knew quake and CSGO where cod clones! Thank you random shitposter
33570c No.13829153
>>13829151
Forgot the flag
323d0b No.13829162
>>13829151
matey they also literally made a season to fix….the game. the thousands of technical and gameplay issues that've been dealt with since launch. Went pretty well, didn't it? That's rhetorical we both know it went nowhere.
33570c No.13829171
>>13829143
I wish the cruaaazy speed rush win meme would die already and we can start to have tacticool games with 3 armor ops and being fat fucks overall
323d0b No.13829178
>>13829151
and every match devolving into tdm no matter the mode is not how any version of cs has played, and quake….well you've never even heard of quake apparently so idk where you get that.
a00e1e No.13829188
Man there isn't a lot of information about the GIGR from morroco available from a quick google, makes it even more odd why ubisoft decided to pick them for a season
>>13829149
>new 3armor attacker DLC
>ever
fuckin' as if.
>>13829171
at least i still have fuze
>>13829178
>tdm no matter the mode is not how any version of cs has played
Bomb from CS and Bomb from Siege are literally the same gametype except there's no defuser kit to buy in siege. Right down to a planted bomb/defuser still being able to end a match even if all the attackers are dead
33570c No.13829199
>>13829178
>kill enemy team in siege
>REEEEE COD CLONE SHIT GAME
>kill enemy team in CS
>superior unique mode
Ok let's recap CS modes since you don't know shit and now are just trying to move the goalpost
-deathmatch
-armrace aka death match with random weapons till the last one
-demolition aka destroy bomb or kill the enemy team
You really should just check my dubs now shitposter
a00e1e No.13829204
>>13829199
>You really should just check my dubs now shitposter
AYOOOOOOOOOOOOO
33570c No.13829210
>>13829188 (heil)
I have rook. Being a 3a operator is suffering anon
81ac65 No.13829281
>>13829210
I can't not love Rook. 3A and extra armor on top of that plus the P90 and acog scope.
a00e1e No.13829292
>>13829281
>drop armor
>impact a hole and sneak off
>FATBOY FLANK with pro90
b66cfb No.13829311
>ranked Bank
>autistic little cousin comes over with his Chromium Windows 10 laptop, running into my room flinging shoes and TV remotes and shit, been playing like shit all night
>my ping spikes to 800-1100 casually because of all the retarded shit he's doing with it
>throw impact at a wall while teammate is putting wall up, had no mic to tell him to stop
>he's at 55 health now
>shoots me in the back of the head
>bitches and cries at me for throwing a grenade at him when he survived most of round
>didn't even lay down my fucking armor because I needed that hole
>lose the round
81ac65 No.13829319
>>13829292
Holy shit how did you know my secret Rook technique?
a00e1e No.13829330
>>13829319
because it's what i do when i play rook.
5c85e3 No.13829555
They're going for zombies now? They're trying to become Treyarch? Tough luck, Treyarch is pretty good at zombies, even though CoD is shit.
8faa07 No.13829749
>release new operator
>OP ability, OP guns
>stay OP for 1 month
>nerf into ground when season pass sales go down
>repeat
This game has had 2 season passes and is about to have a third
73cfb0 No.13829765
>>13829749
Other than blackbeard, who has been OP then nerfed into the ground?
a00e1e No.13829768
>>13829749
>>nerf into ground when season pass sales go down
yeah when did that happen? Blackbeard may have been beaten with the nerft stick but Ela only got a slap on the wrist and still stands strong
63e66d No.13830171
>>13828419
Echo and the Dokkaebi worked together on a few ops. He knows her tech and how to work around it.
db6f03 No.13830184
>>13829768
>Ela only got a slap on the wrist and still stands strong
Fucking this. She is simply overpowered beyond anything else.
>3 Speed
>50+1 with 1k+ firerate
>mines which not only disorient but also
SLOW DOWN YOUR FUCKING MOUSE SPEED
On top of all that she gets a fancy as fuck pistol which will probably never be used due to her over powered primary.
Now Ela is pretty badly overpowered. If you want to pick, just pick her.
Zofia now has the same garbage.
>LMG with 150 ammo
>Ability to shoot impact grenades without pausing
>Can shoot ela mines which activate upon proximity to enemy
>50% faster recovery from the mine because muh lore
>CAN FUCKING PICK HERSELF UP AT 1HP
>2 speed
>get the same fancy pistol with fancy sight
Like HOLY FUCKING SHIT. WHY!? FUCKING WHY!?
Dokkeabi has the same issues.
>can activate ability to hear buzzing
While not entirely bad, still something.
>can hack cameras INCLUDING VALK CAMS with ANY ENEMY OPERATOR'S BODY
You can simply forget playing Cav anymore, way too many hard counters to pick such a weak operator.
With Dokkaebi you just gotta hang back until a teammate of yours kills an enemy, then just steal their cellphone and BOOM. You and your team can see everything.
By the way, if either Ela or Zofia kill each other you get an extra +10 for "Sister Rivalry" (Because MUH LORE!)
At the very least the map looks interesting, and the new guy who can disappear from cams does not appear overpowered. He appears to follow more what operators should be like.
Now there will be literally no point to roaming anymore. Just grab a fat 3 speed (which there are even less of now that Kapkan is 2) and sit on site or near the site. Although, you can't really stay on site anymore because of Zofia… I don't know what to say. With roaming there is one op which can kill you unless you destroy your cams (enjoy your -10 points), and on site there is an op which can stun everyone in the room and blow any/all traps up, making those operators useless also.
I really hope they change some of these things by a large amount. So far Defenders are going to have an even worse time then what seemed possible.
73cfb0 No.13830194
>>13830184
>By the way, if either Ela or Zofia kill each other you get an extra +10 for "Sister Rivalry" (Because MUH LORE!)
I swear to god, really?
db6f03 No.13830213
>>13830194
Yes, unless they change it. So far it is like that.
73cfb0 No.13830215
>>13830213
Holy fuck, this is just too much. They really are trying to make it overwatch.
a00e1e No.13830223
>>13830184
I'm betting she'll have her gadget ammo reduced like they did for ela, picking herself up is annoying on paper but the animation is so slow it doesn't seem as threatening as it sounds, if doc doesn't fall down behind cover his revive won't save him, it'll be the same for her.
>>can activate ability to hear buzzing
I don't -hate- it on paper, but having it affect the entire map is wild, why not a smaller radius with an extra use? for flushing out corners instead of irritating every guy on the map? The phone mechanic sounds fun but like you said, it makes roaming far more dangerous. I think i said it already but with such a tricky gimmick there should be an option to throw your phone away at the cost of no camera access or something similar
.>extra +10 for "Sister Rivalry" (Because MUH LORE
absolutely fucking gay.
>nd the new guy who can disappear from cams does not appear overpowered
funny that the guy who actually looks like a operator is the one getting the least flak. Issue is it probably won't work that well in practice depending on the range of his jammer. Lets say you drone a room and you get the cue that he's in the, chances are the attacker will grenade the fuck out of it (which is easy now with zofia) or just avoid the area instead of trying to prefire the correct corner, or just wait out his cooldown and find him. He looks fun though, the breach load shotgun looks fun even though its not very tactical but his sidearms seem to make up for that.
>(enjoy your -10 points)
they better make it so you don't lose points for breaking hacked gear, since you will be able to tell it was hacked.
>there is an op which can stun everyone in the room and blow any/all traps up
this is already in tandem with thatcher and guys with regular grenades so its gonna be a mess. Hopefully during TTS they address some issues instead of waiting till midseason
a00e1e No.13830235
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS A CHANNEL I SHOULDA ARCHIVED OR WEBM'D, IT JUST SHOWED UP FOR ME AND I WATCHED IT
>camera hack is for a limited time
>korean shotguns use slugs
73cfb0 No.13830247
>>13830235
>korean shotguns use slugs
But why?
>IQ can see people turning off the phones
HOLY FUCK
73cfb0 No.13830249
>>13830235
Also this guy has videos for the other two as well.
db6f03 No.13830250
>>13830223
>I'm betting she'll have her gadget ammo reduced like they did for ela
Even then its still overpowered. Simply removing a single mine from Ela did NOTHING. She still has a good 3 mines and her powerful weapon on top of that.
>this is already in tandem with thatcher and guys with regular grenades so its gonna be a mess
Thatcher or any other operator with grenades won't be needed if you have Zofia. Just shoot an explosive into any doorway and you're free to run inside after blasting in your (most likely 3) stunning explosives.
With the jammer guy you have the isssue of people still knowing where you are generally. Through walls also. It could be more trouble then its worth really, all you would need to do as an attacker is just drone out a general area and get an idea where he is.
>>13830247
>>IQ can see people turning off the phones
Wallbangs incoming.
0dc066 No.13830269
>Zombie mode in fucking Rainbow Six
Truly that's what Tom Clancy would have wanted, really.
I hope it's a fucking joke.
db6f03 No.13830276
>>13830269
Hopefully it'll just be a one off thing and then gets removed entirely, never to be touched again.
a00e1e No.13830278
guy with the funny euro accent in the video pointed out that maybe Zofias grenades don't have high damage like impact grenades, that would be a bit relieving but its the stun bombs i'm more scared of
>>13830247
>But why?
cuz slugs are cool, hopefully the damage output is good enough to warrant the frequent reloads though. my big gripe with the HK operator shotguns is that swapping the magazine feels way more dangerous and more wasteful than feeding new shells like the rest of the shoguns
>HOLY FUCK
IQ could already see people using their phones so its not surprising, this isn't going to increase IQ pickrate at all because her fucking gadget is STILL an FOV hog
>>13830250
>Even then its still overpowered.
I don't disagree, its just what i see the devs doing instead of reducing magazine size. I don't know why since they didn't have any issue taking the acogs off the pocket snipers and bandit/jaeger at all.
73cfb0 No.13830285
>>13830269
Me too. It's really fucking unreal.
>>13830278
Slugs seem kinda backwards for siege. You get neither the antimaterial properties of a normal shotgun, and lose out on the fire rate of any other firearm.
And this IQ meme needs to stop, I can't believe how hard they're trying to push her.
db6f03 No.13830298
>>13830278
>I don't disagree, its just what i see the devs doing instead of reducing magazine size
My point is simply the mechanics of the mines are overpowered. Not only do you get disoriented, messing up your visual and sound cues, but your mouse speed also gets lowered by a large amount.
Even if she only had a SINGLE shot, its still very powerful. It activates upon proximity to the enemy, so you KNOW that its going to be effective, especially if you shoot it over a defender shield and into corners. Larger the magazine, the more powerful. This is exactly the same issue Ela's mines have and I very much wish were adjusted.
a00e1e No.13830299
>>13830285
> I can't believe how hard they're trying to push her.
I think she still has the lowest pickrate and they don't seem to understand the solution isn't giving her more things to detect but just changing her gadget, even just a little. No one is willing to keep pistol on hand and half your FOV taken up to look at things that mostly have audio/visual cues. they're willing to give tachanka a shield and make kapkans traps nonlethal but they won't take the L on IQ and tweak it
945415 No.13830311
>>13830299
I'm still pissed about kapkan. He's not unplayable, but it hurts.
a00e1e No.13830314
>>13830311
yeah it was a weak change, lethal traps were better for punishing overconfident rushers
4d1ebf No.13830321
>>13827777
What about Mute? Surely Sledge's defending brother has immunity
Also nice quad.
9c9f2a No.13830335
>the vault button is still as shit as ever
It angers me beyond belief every time that thing gets me killed.
>>13830311
>>13830314
Honestly, I find that the change is mostly beneficial. Noone picks IQ, and I find that if I play Kapkan at least one of my traps gets triggered, while it was more hit/miss before.
d643d9 No.13830432
>>13830235
>camera hack is limited
thank god
>>13830311
I remember using Kapkan traps to bait shield ops into walking into them. All ops just shrug off the new traps like its nothing. The traps should also do something else other than deal a little damage, like damaging your hearing strongly (an explosion just went off next to your ear) or knocking you on your ass for a few seconds and preventing you from moving, but not aiming. Maybe it already does, but I've never gotten hit by the new Kapkan traps as of yet.
db6f03 No.13830508
>>13830432
>Maybe it already does, but I've never gotten hit by the new Kapkan traps as of yet.
It doesn't. Doesn't even stop you running.
9c9f2a No.13830729
Which of the following ideas are acceptable, which are terrible? Please note I've barely thought out any of these past the initial conception.
>Mira Mirrors can now be placed on floors
>Kapkan Traps may be mounted above door frames facing downwards
>Headshots on 3-armor Ops will send them into DBNO assuming a damage threshold is not broken
>Glaz's scope gets several charges, each enables the "thermal" view for 10 or so seconds
>Remove the flash limit on Blitz
>Ela removed from game
>Lesion only sees his Gu markers at close range, to avoid being able to instantly tell which went off anywhere on the map
>Camera/Drone phones can access "helmet cams" on allied Operators
>Jacklize IQ's sensor
>Either reduce the kick on Tachanka's gun, or buff the shield. Allow each panel it's own health bar
>Give Thatcher another EMP grenade
>Make Castle barriers require two Sledge hits
db6f03 No.13830824
>>13830729
>Mira Mirrors can now be placed on floors
Pointless. You can and people do blow out the floors already so its pretty useless. The point of Mira's ability is that you get a view through a reinforced surface, not simply a clean view to another area. Plus, I'm not fully sure whether or not Mira can place her devices on walls with metal studs.
>Kapkan Traps may be mounted above door frames facing downwards
I don't think this would be needed. Already they are quite unnoticeable. Just adds an extra complication, to an already large list, for attackers when needing to navigate a building.
>Headshots on 3-armor Ops will send them into DBNO assuming a damage threshold is not broken
Doesn't feel all that balanced due to the low amount of 3 armor ops and the currently working system.
Glaz's scope gets several charges, each enables the "thermal" view for 10 or so seconds
I think its fine as is. Good for shooting people through tiny holes in the yellow part of them, rest of the time is pretty pointless.
>Remove the flash limit on Blitz
The amount he is is fine, I best in most games you won't even use them all before dying or winning.
>Ela removed from game
Just change her. Nerf the gun and adjust the mines.
>Lesion only sees his Gu markers at close range, to avoid being able to instantly tell which went off anywhere on the map
Honestly its pretty difficult to see the markers at long range, quite small. Regardless you already get a notification of +10 points and such. Wouldn't take much guess work. Also add on the fact that enemy ops make a noise when they step on it. Leave it in its current state.
>Camera/Drone phones can access "helmet cams" on allied Operators
What is the point besides pinging an enemy that they can see?
>Jacklize IQ's sensor
Problem with this is that it makes her a very over powered counter to Pulse. Just look through the walls and shoot him instantly. Pulse still has to put away his sensor before shooting.
>Either reduce the kick on Tachanka's gun, or buff the shield. Allow each panel it's own health bar
Nobody should use this operator. No point messing with it.
>Give Thatcher another EMP grenade
I think 3 is fine so far, it makes you use the grenades carefully. With 4 grenades all defensive operators might as well not put down anything due to thatcher just spam throwing them all into the target room. Poof. Instally all traps, several gadgets, valk cams, drones, etc are all useless or removed. Verses using them intelligently.
>Make Castle barriers require two Sledge hits
Does not matter much unless there is like 1-2 seconds left on the time. Either way it'll come down quick.
33570c No.13831304
>>13829765
Ela for sure and nerfed the bullets
Mira with her gun but they just nerfed her recoil
Buck had shit powerful skeleton key but it lasted like 3 days
d2d4e4 No.13831350
Even with the camera hack, DokiDoki doesn't seem as bullshit strong as the polish fucker, considering you have to leave enemy cameras up in order to use it, so I guess it's a neat dynamic.
Why can't they just remove the aiming speed decrease on the concussion grenades? That'd perfectly balance out Zofia and Ela.
cf6102 No.13831380
>>13831350
Fucking with the player's sensitivity is a cardinal sin of shooting game design, after all.
c0076c No.13831455
>>13830335
>I'm fine with kapkan
Mate, he place the traps, they all go off and you didn't even kill one op. That's shit, at least before it made fear in the enemy
>being kap
>rush out of obj to hid
>place 2 traps
>enemy doesn't know I'm in play so rush in
>3-5
>end of match
>1-1
>I place the last one in a clear doorwaywas bank so was placed between halfway and open area
>I hide
>match won
>see the final kill
>the guy walked slowly to check corners but didn't notice the red laser at feet level
c0076c No.13831459
>>13830508
Worst, if you run quick enough the explosion doesn't even get you
07ca03 No.13831475
Question: Paying for the Starter Edition is bad idea?
cf6102 No.13831477
>>13831475
Do you enjoy grind? Starter edition makes every non-DLC operator cost 12500 renown, which is quite a bit of grinding.
c0076c No.13831491
>>13830729
>Mira Mirrors can now be placed on floors
Situational and terrible idea
>Kapkan Traps may be mounted above door frames facing downwards
If you can mount them above windows then yes since I've never seen anyone getting into the kap trap on window
>Headshots on 3-armor Ops will send them into DBNO assuming a damage threshold is not broken
Good idea but only if you make a new operator a la rook but for headgear
>Glaz's scope gets several charges, each enables the "thermal" view for 10 or so seconds
Not several, infinite like silent step and then it's fine…maybe 20 second is better since you usually need to check 3-4 windows or peeking spots otherwise just leave it like it is
>Remove the flash limit on Blitz
So make him go crazy? Fuck no now that he can run is already terrifying beside I never use all 5 of them in a match
>Ela removed from game
No. Just nerf the gun
>Lesion only sees his Gu markers at close range, to avoid being able to instantly tell which went off anywhere on the map
Never played lesion so not sure how it works
>Camera/Drone phones can access "helmet cams" on allied Operators
No point on it
>Jacklize IQ's sensor
Naaa will make her too easy to walk bang people. Make the sensor work with her gun or make it a new one entirely
>Either reduce the kick on Tachanka's gun, or buff the shield. Allow each panel it's own health bar
I only see chanka in causal when already 2-0 so there's no point on it being something else then a meme
>Give Thatcher another EMP grenade
Able to spam them? Naaa it's fine since you need to use them with thinking
>Make Castle barriers require two Sledge hits
I asked for a castle buff since forever, smacks only remove one line and you need either 2 sledge and 2 breaching the nades remove only the under part so you need to crouch to pass under…there was a idea pic done a couple of threads ago I use him a lot for hostage or for slowing down enemies, works perfectly but need some buff against all those new ops
07ca03 No.13831512
>>13831477
(Checked)
Yeah, Ubisoft state in their article 1 operator will take 15 hours to get, while the standard edition will take 2 hours or less for an operator.
I'm okay with the grind, if you choose wisely.
2 Random Operators given were Sledge and Smoke. The other two I payed for with the free 600 credits, Glaz and Bandit Keith. Glaz was a terrible option.
de8067 No.13832359
>>13827272
>korean guns
>anything other than cheap copies
Nah bro.Worse than the Chinese this way.
de8067 No.13832393
>>13827732
Something I'd really like to see is universal operators.
Imagine, if you will, Fuze on defense.
Stick that bomb on a wall you know the enemy's going to likely breach from and laugh.
49f1a0 No.13832404
>>13832393
That sounds retarded.
de8067 No.13832433
>>13828376
This is honestly something that's pissed me off for a while. There's no reason barricades couldn't be swapped with doors, at least as far as doorways are concerned, for the most part. Outside of the ones you set up yourself, maybe.
I think it's because they had an idea for a sort of 'training' theme to things. Everythings got a big X on it, or is otherwise blatantly obvious if you can breach it.
de8067 No.13832439
>>13832404
Yes, but it would also be fun.
Plus, it'd make more sense than having half your team fighting you all the time.
b42914 No.13832445
>>13832439
>fun
Nice meaningless buzzword friend. It's a terrible idea and would be ass.
de8067 No.13832450
>>13828556
>Italians
We better have an option to not show up, in that case.
de8067 No.13832462
>>13832445
Probably. But so is a lot of the shit they're doing.
If you're going to have a stupid amount of operators and whatnot, you might as well just double down on that, and let anyone use anything.
Sure, some stuff'd be overpowered. Some stuff'd be useless. Some'd be stupid.
But, on the other hand, with enough options, anything is viable simply for the surprise of it.
d643d9 No.13832475
https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-gb/updates/whitenoise/index.aspx
Changes:
>desync issues related to grenades teleporting backwards (((fixed)))
>player movement affects thrown grenade trajectory, moving forwards results in longer throws, backwards in shorter throws, and moving sideways affects the trajectory laterally
>pistol firing animations reworked so they don't cover up the center of the screen and make repeatedly firing at an enemy a game of RNG
>RoF for all pistols increased in general
>new GUI elements for wearing Rook armor, being marked by Jackal, being affected by Dokkaebi or a Gu
>FIXED – Players can melee gadgets through a Deployable Shield and destroy them.
>FIXED – If a laser is equipped on a weapon with no sight, the laser does not react to EMP grenades.
>FIXED – Some weapons are not aligned correctly with the ACOG sight while aiming and sustaining fire.
>FIXED – Destroying the barricade on a door or window would destroy the EDD.
>FIXED – If an EDD is placed on the outside of a building and an Attacker rappels inside, the explosion won’t damage them.
>FIXED – Defenders leave footprints in barbed wire.
>FIXED – Leaving the match after the interrogation starts causes it to stop before it completes, denying the ability.
>FIXED – The movement speed reduction after being hit by her mine was at 20% instead of the intended 30%. (LOL)
>FIXED – Camera rotation speed would decrease gradually for a short time as the concussion effect wears off. (LOOOOL)
d569f3 No.13832478
>>13832462
>you might as well just double down on that, and let anyone use anything.
>hey guys, instead of slowly ruining the game, how about we ruin the game in one swoop and throw balance completely out the window?
Genius. Please apply for a job at EA or something.
49f1a0 No.13832483
>>13832462
>let's just fuck EVERYTHING up for teh lolz
How about fucking no. Playing an unbalanced shitshow is not fun.
d643d9 No.13832510
>we're really not going for the waifu audience, we swear
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the head honchos at Ubi Montreal wants to marry IQ. I'd also look forward to when the Moroccan ops hit and how the female one will probably be Moroccan-Canadian.
Also, another fun fact about the RMAF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Moroccan_Armed_Forces
>But this force still faces many challenges. The U.S. Embassy in Rabat commented in 2008 that: "The military remains plagued by corruption, an inefficient bureaucracy, low levels of education in the ranks, periodic threats of radicalization of some of its soldiers, political marginalization, and the deployment of most of its forces in Western Sahara".[5]
49f1a0 No.13832524
>>13832510
>two female ops are front and center with bright lighting
>vigil is sitting in his cuckshed in the back
I'm gonna make it my fucking mission to kill as many zofias and dokkaebis as I can while playing vigil.
d569f3 No.13832534
>>13832510
>Moroccan-Canadian.
Even better. Tactical burka.
d643d9 No.13832541
>>13832524
To be honest, being this creepy guy lurking about in the darkness is his shtick. Which is what makes him cooler.
>>13832534
So we're finally getting our kamikaze OP?
320d45 No.13832551
>>13832510
>waifu audience
HOW IN THE FUCK ARE THESE ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHIT MODELS GOING TO ATTRACT THE /A/UDIENCE
'IT IS FUCKING SHIT EVERY LAST BIT OF IT'
THEY COULD AT LEAST ADD SOME FUCKING RELEVANT ANTI TERRORIST UNIT BUT 'NO' LETS ADD THE MOST FUCKING HORRIBLE GENERIC UTTERLY BORING LE EBIN SPECIAL OPS XDXXDDXD BECAUSE WE ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS AT YOUR JOBS AND 'WE FUCKING HATE VIDEO GAMES'
d643d9 No.13832561
>>13832551
Ubi managed to not fuck up the models for once
And so, after Japan, Hong Kong and now Worst Korea, the Year of Yellow Fever has ended.
d569f3 No.13832562
>>13832541
>So we're finally getting our kamikaze OP?
Maybe. Can't wait for all the salt they'll get from the muds for making a female Op.
29608e No.13832569
>>13832562
>there's a jew sitting behind her
You can't make that shit up.
cf6102 No.13832577
>>13832475
I found some of the wording regarding the UI changes very, well concerning. They're calling that shit a "buff/debuff indicator".
>>13832510
They couldn't make an attractive female character if they fucking tried. DokiDoki looks like a hairless ratman with niggerlips, and the gimp suit certainly isn't helping. Zofia looks like a tryhard cunt, IQ now has the 1000 cock stare, Ash is a jewess so I won't even talk about her, twitch is a 5/10, and Ela has a decent face but her hair makes her look like a gigacunt, and Hibana might as well be two little boys in a suit.
4b4057 No.13832581
>>13832569
Maybe because it's Israel. Notice the letters on bag and sticker
320d45 No.13832582
>>13832561
>Abhorrent textures and shitty hair
>managed to not fuck up the models for once
de8067 No.13832685
>>13832483
>>13832478
Everything's already getting fucked.
It's like having something halfway between a comedy and a horror. It'll be shit. Go one or the other, not between the two.
If you fuck it all, it'll be fun. If you don't, it'll be fun. If you fuck it a little, it'll be shit.
db6f03 No.13832694
>>13832685
No thanks. Please take your idea and put it elsewhere.
d643d9 No.13832709
Some shit I'd suggest:
>shock drone crosshair will be greyed out if the position you're aiming at isn't within taser reach so you don't need to mess around trying to hit a lamppost camera
>kapkan traps now knock you on your ass and force you in a prone position for two seconds while deafening your hearing for twenty seconds
>IQ's gadget could instead be an attachment on her primary like the heartbeat sensor in MW2, where nearby electronics appear as dots on her sensor regardless of shape (or they may have different icons), however the refresh rate of her sensor is similar to that of Pulse, on top of that affected electronics will emit a slight static noise similar to Jammers to let you know IQ is nearby, so you don't want to have it on all the time
>phones triggered by Dokki's logic bomb will play an op-dependent ringtone instead of an universal buzzing noise to let you know which op is nearby, f.e. Blackbeard has some dadrock playing, Bandit some hardstyle, Spetznaz some CHEEKI BREEKI, and Mute has it set on buzzing
>you can as defenders use Dokki's tablet from her corpse to use a logic bomb on attackers once which triggers attacker phones and disables attacker drone feeds temporarily, so she's a double-edged sword where shit players may be even a bigger detriment to their team, conversely her tablet can also be destroyed much like a defender can destroy the phones on his dead teammates
>>13832582
Are you talking shit about my waifu?
49f1a0 No.13832718
>>13832685
>oh hey we made a mist step that isn't even fully implemented yet
>LETS GO FULL RETARD EVERYONE CAN STACK FUZE NONFRIENDLY FIRE WOOO
No, fuck off retard.
de8067 No.13832727
>>13832718
>no friendly fire
Nah, that's still straight up dumb. Friendly fire is half the fun with fuze.
d2d4e4 No.13832788
>>13832475
So they buffed Ela also?
98e5a5 No.13832804
>>13828541
What's wrong with shotguns?
f270c3 No.13832812
>>13832804
They do fuck-all at mid-range and a laser sight actually decreases their spread.
4debcb No.13832821
How fun is this for a new player? There seems to be a shit ton of things to learn before it becomes fun
cf6102 No.13832823
>>13832804
With a shotgun, at point blank you have an actual shotgun, and at mid range or long range you have a shit-tier pump action sniper rifle which can only kill with headshots.
6400ee No.13832826
>>13827338
>>K-Commando
Aren't they just special police who mostly bust drugs? I don't think they are legendary enough to be put in the same bag as GIGN and GSG9.
6e9bd2 No.13832838
>>13832823
>shotgun
>can only kill with headshots.
Anon…
b42914 No.13832842
>>13832823
>shotgun
>headshot damage
They don't have headshot multipliers.
>>13832821
It's a lot of fun once you learn the maps.
d569f3 No.13832847
>>13832821
It'll be fun from the start if you don't take losses too serious. Just dick around with different Ops until you get the hang of it.
>>13832812
>and a laser sight actually decreases their spread.
You for real? God damn it, guess I'll have to slap one of those annoying things on then.
cf6102 No.13832852
>>13832838
>at long or mid range
Because the single pellet always hits on your crosshair if you're aiming down sights, so you can crossmap niggers, drones and cameras with it.
>>13832842
I guess I'm wrong there. But still, you're guaranteed one pellet of damage if you have perfect aim, and that's about it.
6e9bd2 No.13832857
>>13832852
If you actually played the game you'd know shotguns gain no damage bonus from headshots and count as body shots
b42914 No.13832861
>>13832847
Aiming down sights also decreases the spread of shotguns. A few patches back they fixed a glitch that made it so laser sights and ADSing stacked so some shotguns were capable of doing way more damage than intended at range.
cf6102 No.13832867
>>13832857
I have 200something hours, and I've used a shotgun maybe once. There's really no point to using one, except maybe busting holes in walls and dealing with old Blackbeard may he rest in piss.
8faa07 No.13832878
>>13832821
>There seems to be a shit ton of things to learn before it becomes fun
DO NOT BUY THE STARTER EDITION YOU ARE BEING JEWED
Each defender has 2 sections of reinforcement to place on walls
Hard breachers (Thermite, Hibana) can breach reinforcements
Soft Breachers (Buck, Sledge) specialize in breaking non-reinforced walls
Jammers (Mute, Bandit) can protect walls from hard breachers
Anti-Jammers (Thatcher, Twitch) support the hard breachers by killing jammer gadgets
Trap Operators (Kapkan, Frost, Lesion, Ela) are designed to slow down rushes
Everyone else is a shade of roamer/counter-roamer. Everyone is either 3 speed-1 armor, 2 speed-2 armor, or 1 speed-3 armor. Due to peakers advantage, speed is preferable to armor.
There is usually 1 alternative to an operator, the stronger ability usually has weaker weapons or is slower for balance
Learn maps, specifically where rooms are on what modes and where cameras are.
Rook and Sledge are great first operators, don't be the guy who starts playing on Thermite or Mute
DO NOT BUY THE STARTER EDITION YOU ARE BEING JEWED
d569f3 No.13832903
>>13832878
>or Mute
Mute ain't so bad though. I picked him a lot when I first started because no one else would.
1648fe No.13832917
>>13832709
>waifu
She's a young Yoko Ono.
9164b3 No.13832935
>>13832903
Same, didn't do badly since I at least stopped drones from spotting us after prep-phase.
c5a487 No.13832976
>>13832577
What about Frost, anon? She's the only one I find remotely _qt_ out of the entire cast.
c5a487 No.13832994
>>13832985
>>13832986
PUT IT BACK ON YOU FUCKS
db6f03 No.13832996
>shock drone crosshair will be greyed out if the position you're aiming at isn't within taser reach so you don't need to mess around trying to hit a lamppost camera
Eh, I don't personally see the point of that. Use Twitch enough and you'll get an idea of how long range your shots are.
>kapkan traps now knock you on your ass and force you in a prone position for two seconds while deafening your hearing for twenty seconds
A trap worse then Ela's? No thanks. As soon as you step into that it literally opens you up to be finished. All the enemy ops would need to do is just prefire at the bottom of the doorway.
>IQ's gadget could instead be an attachment on her primary like the heartbeat sensor in MW2, where nearby electronics appear as dots on her sensor regardless of shape (or they may have different icons), however the refresh rate of her sensor is similar to that of Pulse, on top of that affected electronics will emit a slight static noise similar to Jammers to let you know IQ is nearby, so you don't want to have it on all the time
No. Regardless of what your suggested she has a significant advantage over Pulse due to it being attached to her primary weapon. Pulse needs to put his thing away and shoot at the spot where he thinks they are. IQ just needs to look and then fire immediately.
>phones triggered by Dokki's logic bomb will play an op-dependent ringtone instead of an universal buzzing noise to let you know which op is nearby, f.e. Blackbeard has some dadrock playing, Bandit some hardstyle, Spetznaz some CHEEKI BREEKI, and Mute has it set on buzzing
NO NO AND FUCKING NO.
>you can as defenders use Dokki's tablet from her corpse to use a logic bomb on attackers once which triggers attacker phones and disables attacker drone feeds temporarily, so she's a double-edged sword where shit players may be even a bigger detriment to their team, conversely her tablet can also be destroyed much like a defender can destroy the phones on his dead teammates
NO! Where the fuck do these terrible ideas come from? If you make it this way then why not have it that ANY operator can use any other operator's tools? Terrible idea. The main point of having a tool usable by a single op is to make it important that they stay alive. Not that they are a full detriment to the team if they die.
Simply trash ideas. I honestly expected something better from you anon.
>>13832867
>may he rest in piss
What the hell are you on about?
He is an amazing operator.
>There's really no point to using one
Completely wrong. Shotguns have been buffed so that they are far more powerful. They are very much worth using as long as you aren't shooting across the map.
f1ac9e No.13832997
>>13832577
The Jewess is the only cute girl tbh
d643d9 No.13833087
>>13832996
>A trap worse then Ela's? No thanks. As soon as you step into that it literally opens you up to be finished.
You'd have to revert some changes like the having a visible tripwire again and reduce the amount of traps. So you get something more powerful and rusher-punishing with a visible catch, as opposed to Ela's concs which can be placed anywhere and don't have a laser sticking out of them, but are just a temporary nuisance and require you to be close to make use of them when they go off.
>No. Regardless of what your suggested she has a significant advantage over Pulse due to it being attached to her primary weapon. Pulse needs to put his thing away and shoot at the spot where he thinks they are. IQ just needs to look and then fire immediately.
Alternatively it could just display the general direction of the electric signal rather than its exact position, which tells you enough whether a doorway is trapped and whether there's some jackass watching porn on his phone in the next room.
>NO NO AND FUCKING NO.
?
>If you make it this way then why not have it that ANY operator can use any other operator's tools? Terrible idea. The main point of having a tool usable by a single op is to make it important that they stay alive.
If your gadget can affect the whole enemy team with the press of a button, then your op is bound to attract shitters who want to feel like they're doing something important with minimum effort. Which is why it's also important to outweigh big positives with big negatives so nobody will pick Dokkaebi willy-nilly, and that you should be prepared to screw your team over if you mess up.
>Not that they are a full detriment to the team if they die.
That's what a Thermite/Hibana getting prematurely killed already does.
db6f03 No.13833142
>>13833087
>>NO NO AND FUCKING NO.
>?
I don't want garbage music to play in my game because muh lore! Buzzing or a boring tune that every op uses is fine by me. No music.
>If your gadget can affect the whole enemy team with the press of a button, then your op is bound to attract shitters who want to feel like they're doing something important with minimum effort. Which is why it's also important to outweigh big positives with big negatives so nobody will pick Dokkaebi willy-nilly, and that you should be prepared to screw your team over if you mess up.
It should't be that your entire team gets fucked over simply because a player with a specific operator died. Fucked over in a degree beyond simply not using their gadget to benefit the team.
The issue with Dokkaebi is that ANY enemy operator dying suddenly tilts the whole match. Its like an attacker cav but worse. Suddenly, playing valk is no longer a good idea. Especially since, if Dokkaebi lives long enough, the attacking ops get plenty of uses to see the defender cameras.
Plus its guaranteed that there will be people who buy the season pass and run Dokkaebi as they like. Which, if they suck, can be a terrible thing to their team if your suggestion was added.
de8067 No.13833170
>>13833142
I like the idea of operator-specific tones.
d569f3 No.13833200
Anyone else his weeklies not updating anymore? Just won 2 matches playing as GSG9 and it's still stuck at 6/8
4debcb No.13833439
>>13832878
I hope a 670 is enough for this.
db6f03 No.13833506
c5a487 No.13833583
>>13833439
I've been playing with a 650. You'll be fine.
f6b20b No.13833637
So Dokki's hacks are only for a limited time, are the uses limited too?
c5a487 No.13833669
>>13833637
Two charges and last until the defenders turn off their phones.
f6b20b No.13833704
>>13833669
Ah, for the ringing? The video that was posted earlier said the camera hacking is just for a limited time at least.
Anyone know if she needs to have a charge left to use a dead operator's phone?
a00e1e No.13833710
Anyone try the TTS? i'm actually going to download it for this season to mess around with it. Despite Donkeykai looking like an annoying bitch, i want to use that spicy DMR she got
>>13830729
>>Mira Mirrors can now be placed on floors
unnecessary, mirrors work find
>>Headshots on 3-armor Ops will send them into DBNO assuming a damage threshold is not broken
no thanks, headshot should be a headshot across the board
>>Either reduce the kick on Tachanka's gun, or buff the shield. Allow each panel it's own health bar
MAKE IT A FUCKING BIPOD, the entire tripod setup phase is what makes it so weak and janky, if he could prone with it or place it on varying surfaces it wouldn't even need the shield anymore
>>Give Thatcher another EMP grenade
there was a rumor this might happen but at the cost of his breach charges
>>13831350
>considering you have to leave enemy cameras up in order to use it, so I guess it's a neat dynamic.
I hadn't thought of that, most players will be shooting out cameras out of habit, its valkyrie who's going to be in the toughest spot against Dokkensgambit
>>13831475
DO NOT PURCHASE STARTER EDITION
>>13832475
>>pistol firing animations reworked so they don't cover up the center of the screen and make repeatedly firing at an enemy a game of RNG
this sounds nice, I like playing caveria but using pistols accurately always felt a bit off
>>13832510
I'm so curious as to why ubi picked GIGR for this game, i mean the first google results for them are holding red training guns
>>13832821
>There seems to be a shit ton of things to learn before it becomes fun
This is a recent problem, operators all had 1 job each until dookiegook and zofia came along with excessive abilities, but knowing the maps and being able to shoot well will still win more battles than gadget use
a00e1e No.13833730
>>13833170
its a funny idea but would only give dingleberry more of an advantage, but it could make for a good video
>activate logic bomb
>muffle jpop and swearing plays through the wall
c5a487 No.13833748
>>13833710
Can you actually mess with the ops without unlocking them? That's the only reason i would ever download the TTS.
73cfb0 No.13833760
>>13833748
I think in TTS it either copies how much renown you have or everything is unlocked.
a00e1e No.13833763
>>13833748
TTS has everything unlocked
f6b20b No.13833796
>>13833730
>hack a phone
>GAS GAS GAS I'M GONNA STEP ON THE GAS starts playing as you get hit by a smoke bomb
a00e1e No.13833836
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13833796
>hack kapkans phone
73cfb0 No.13833855
>>13833848
Oh wait, he's immune because reasons.
a00e1e No.13833867
>>13833855
he's a superior NEET who doesn't carry a phone because his only friend is a robot, no thot can hack him. Real talk though I am going to start practicing him more since he's going to be able to do some lite-roaming safely
f6b20b No.13833889
>>13833855
Jap getting hacked by a Korean would be shamefur dispray.
15850b No.13834030
>>13832577
>Ash
Nani? I don't have her unlocked yet, thus can't check the bio.
73cfb0 No.13834064
>>13834030
Oh boy anon. she's a full blood yid and worked in the IDF.
15850b No.13834097
>>13834064
wew not surprised
b66cfb No.13834102
>>13833170
It's a cute idea and a better alternative to the hamfisted cringy lore in this game now but it'd make gook more powerful than she already is. Bandit would listen to "intelligent" dance music or Brian Eno or some shit since he's a lonely autist.
>>13832577
Mira is forever the best girl.
>pure Spanish genes so her biological clock is extremely long, she's roughly 40 and still cute
>useful but simple gadget
>good guns
>tank
>tomboy
>isn't flashy and keeps a humble attitude and appearance
a00e1e No.13834104
>>13834097
its why her hitbox feels inconsistent, she's a shapeshifter
15850b No.13834222
Do we have a 8/v/ group or anything like that? Yeah, I know that's cancerous and all, but pubbies are fucking retarded.
160a87 No.13834278
15850b No.13834284
a00e1e No.13834292
>>13834102
>>tomboy
a man of taste I see, but you forgot another important trait she holds : she fucking hates Ash, they snuck that into her bio somewhere
c5a487 No.13834340
>>13834222
From my experience; most pubbies are pretty fine but that might have changed due to the free weekend.
a00e1e No.13834355
>>13834340
free weekend is over but it was a clusterfuck this time
b66cfb No.13834386
>>13834222
Any sort of community especially Steam groups are festering grounds with cancer and this being a AAA game means certified cancer shitting it up and dividing the general thread community with the off-site community, you wanna play with an anon post your ID.
>>13834292
I forgot about that, did they state a reason why she did.
a00e1e No.13834509
You know with such dangerous grenades like Zofias mybe Jeager needs his ADS improved, or needs another one
948f92 No.13834567
>>13834509
I feel like Jeager gets fucked over every time someone plays him, like theres almost no point
Its nice for the little things but when a Fuze sends in a charge the ADS is pretty much useless only taking one or two pellets, where the fuze will do almost just as much dammage + killing of the ADS that was there to counter it
It does the job well with the little things but with how few he has and how fast the whole objective room is blown up it feels like it doesnt matter much
>>13834355
Didnt play much in the weekend but from what i did play it didnt feel like there were too many shitters there
a00e1e No.13834582
I'm going to fuck around in TTS a bit, anyone want screenshots of anything specific?
a00e1e No.13834603
>fake glasses
>wears them to operations
db6f03 No.13834615
>>13834603
>fake glasses
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
REALLY? This is fucking disgusting.
b66cfb No.13834647
c5a487 No.13834650
>>13834615
Don't forget anon.
>adopted the geek girl persona
She's a le ebin nurd ecks dee
8fbfa4 No.13834656
>>13834603
South Korea truly is worst Korea
a00e1e No.13834663
autism boi
>>13834647
save for his submachinegun, its the same as dookies
b66cfb No.13834681
>>13834663
>>13834603
>>13834666
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db6f03 No.13834688
>>13834681
I don't see what is so wrong with Vigil anon. An ok operator so far.
c5a487 No.13834708
>>13834666
That looks like a skeleton to fill in later rather than a proper bio. What the fuck Jewbi?
b66cfb No.13834721
>>13834688
It's the fucking gay edgelord backstories that try too hard to make you sympathize with characters, also Vigil's guns are the same shit as Dook's besides the SMG meaning Ubisoft didn't bother to research what guns South Korea has made and he's another 3-speed operator.
>>13834708
That's the psych profile but it's still fucking trash, the game died with Health but this update is the smell of the corpse.
a00e1e No.13834743
new map only has two entry points, very strange layout to figure out so far. Kpop shotguns are indeed slugs and seem to be headshot capable, the iron sight on it is fucking vulgar though so you'll wanna slap a red dot on them or something
c5a487 No.13834751
>>13834743
Wait, did you actually test to see how much damage it dealt? Shotguns can still be marked for getting headshots, they just don't get the additional damage.
a00e1e No.13834755
>>13834751
not yet, messing with Thunt right now to try dookie and zofia
db6f03 No.13834758
>>13834743
>new map only has two entry points
I'm guessing this makes it easy for defenders to spawn peak?
15850b No.13834775
>>13834386
>Any sort of community especially Steam groups are festering grounds with cancer and this being a AAA game means certified cancer shitting it up and dividing the general thread community with the off-site community, you wanna play with an anon post your ID.
Fair point, you're absolutely right. It's a shame we can't have a group without the cancer. Someone should probably tell that to the PS2 thread.
a00e1e No.13834803
from south side one option is to go down the side of the building where you can hit a few windows, at the bottom theres a catwalk that leads to nothing, i guess so if you get hit through the window you have a chance of getting a revive. Zofias frag grenades seem to be for soft walls only, a direct hit on a terrorist on normal mode did not kill him
15850b No.13834817
>>13834603
Erm, my dude. You've overlooked the worst part:
>adopted the geek girl persona in order to manipulate and play with people
>LITERALLY A LE CUTE GURL GAMER
Holy shit, I dunno if I should we angry with the rage of a thousand suns, or impressed that this is an extremely accurate portrayal of your typical woman.
c5a487 No.13834821
>>13834775
You're damn fucking right about the PS2 niggers.
a00e1e No.13834870
This map is a fucking fever dream, lots of rooms that are wildly different from one another, lots of window entry points so the attackers can swing into sweet death unless they take some kinda gary elevator shaft entrance. I don't know where the defense points are yet but this seems to be a very defense favoring map. Just trying to find the last few terrorists in Thunt is very confusing
I really like the mk14 though
c5a487 No.13834937
>>13834870
>tfw your raifu is stuck on the fucking shitty meme gurl
Kill me fam.
a00e1e No.13834944
the sidearm SMG has pretty wild recoil patterns even with vert grip, the pistol seems a better choice since its hip-fire is pretty decent
d2d4e4 No.13834976
Have some pistol recoil footage.
>>13834663
Vigil looks fucking cool though.
a00e1e No.13834978
good luck actually getting to pick any of the new operators outside of lone wolf thunt while in TTS, everyone else playing is trying to pick them too
db6f03 No.13835009
>>13834976
With these new pistol animations the shield ops are gonna be buffed a ton.
a00e1e No.13835015
>>13834976
>Vigil looks fucking cool though.
agreed, and overall he's not that offense in gadget design, does one job and all that.
Carrying one of your jammers on you at all times as mute is probably a good strategy to have now, i keep one on hand and sit on it while waiting on a corner or something so dok can't call me
bf76cb No.13835016
>>13834817
do you really have to angry? she's already winning if that's the conclusion you jump to
a00e1e No.13835026
Alright here's something i just learned, so when your cams are hacked doke's logo will appear on your cams, it seems to last a very long time. if an enemy is currently on cameras it will be controlled by "hacked" and you won't be able to move it, like if a teammate was using that camera
15850b No.13835028
>>13835016
What? I speak English not gibberish.
c5a487 No.13835031
>>13834976
Pretty excited for that. Long range with Cav's pistol might be somewhat viable now.
d2d4e4 No.13835042
>>13835015
I think what's ubishit is doing is appealing to both the waifu-op and "realistic" looking op crowd with each DLC op. Because Vigil looks fucking neato, and so did Blackbeard, but Valkyrie and the new female ops look like fucking trash.
a00e1e No.13835059
>>13835042
I didn't hate the previous female ops, i said before i really didn't mind/notice at all up until Ela and Dok. The rest of them were pretty unoffensive and at least dressed the part even if they were ugly.
Anyway, fiddling around in TTS some more, Zofia as expected is the most obnoxious, her frags don't do much damage luckily but getting pummeled by concussion grenades is just fucking annoying
c5a487 No.13835080
>>13835059
Any idea if the effects of concussion grenades stack or do they just reset the duration?
a00e1e No.13835108
>>13835080
I can't tell yet, it FEELS like it resets it so spamming them is probably foolish, having 4 of them is definitely obscene though
73cfb0 No.13835141
>>13834817
It's so close to self aware. She's only a le geek gaymurr girl to manipulate people. That's pretty on the nose.
>>13834870
Oh fug, is it as bad as the last map?
d2d4e4 No.13835145
>>13834870
I dunno, I like the map.
a00e1e No.13835148
>>13835141
>Oh fug, is it as bad as the last map?
I like theme park, tower feels a lot more difficult to navigate so far
73cfb0 No.13835152
>>13835148
Theme park has taken me a lot of time to adjust to, and I still don't know the layout as perfectly as I do all the other maps.
a00e1e No.13835267
Playing as mute is significantly more demanding now, in both a good and a bad way. He has more options than just blocking drone holes and walls now, and by carrying a spare with him he can be a lite roamer to avoid phone calls. Overall defending is frustrating to say the least as it stands. Dok gets a visual cue for dropped phones that I hadn't seen in previous videos. I think dead attackers still have access to hacked cams and the hack time seems to last very long, i'm yet to see it wear off.
956388 No.13835302
>>13835141
>She's only a le geek gaymurr girl to manipulate people. That's pretty on the nose.
Read my post again, I already know know this and was pretty much stateing this.
>manipulation
>isn't actually into games
Just like every other gurlgaymer. She's still a cunt.
a00e1e No.13835358
to turn off a phone call you have to come to a complete stop, you can't walk and deactivate it. Not pleased about that at all
db6f03 No.13835361
>>13835358
worse then a gu mine
a00e1e No.13835379
>>13835361
playing TTS for like 2 hours proved to be really frustrating, one because it doesn't carry your settings over so my sensitivity was all fucked up and just the overall nightmare that is defending now. I really hope they address these issues because playing this game since around the time dust line came out, this is the first time I really didn't have much fun at all, even if it was just a test server.
No complaints against Vigil though, he's okay in my books.
c5a487 No.13835382
>>13835108
Certainly. She only really needs two of each at most.
db6f03 No.13835450
Just a note, Vigil's and Dooki's shotgun go through Airplane's windows.
a00e1e No.13835486
Just a few more thoughts before i go play the regular server or some other game. Roaming is an absolute liability now. Even if some one other than dok kills you, dok will know where your phone is and their teammate can keep an eye on it and they can grab it in relative safety. Its been said that the hack wears off but I don't know when the hell that is. It appears dead attackers also get access to the hacked cameras so having 2-3 dead attackers can lock you out from even moving most of your cams. A comp like thatcher/hibana/zofia can completely decimate your objective points now with both your hard and soft walls under immediate danger, once a hole opens up the barrage of concussion grenades will follow. You could combine this with smoke grenades and throw glaz into the mix to make a complete mess of the defenders. So your roamers are a liability and your anchors can get buttfucked by some basic enemy coordination. Zofias impact grenades are 100% superior to Ash's breaching round, they're faster and don't have as identifiable of an audio cue, and you can get both off much faster than ash can. The korean shotguns do indeed have headshot kills and anyone using them are using them as funny sniper rifles because of that, not necessarily a bad thing just something to clear up from my previous post. Vigil is unoffensive, he feels the most like a base operator and yields the same risks as most roamers, considering that the drone cue for him being in the area is very blatant, I can't imagine it will help his sneaking abilities much. The pistol change is nice since you can shoot without having the barrel of your gun knock your operators nose in every time.
I really really hope that these issues are addressed but i'm sure half the feedback is idiots saying "haha these guys are awesome" because they keep winning with them
db6f03 No.13835495
>>13835486
Note that 15 meters or so a body shot with the new shotguns means insta death.
I think this is some bullshit, but oh well…
de8067 No.13835646
>>13834666
The lack of a male pole is making me sad.
4d1ebf No.13835717
>>13832878
Rook, Mute, Sledge, and Thermite were exactly the first four operators I unlocked when I first played last year.
Mute got a little old because teammates complained but Idk why people think Thermite can't be played by newbies
de8067 No.13835753
>>13832878
What's so bad about the starter edition? I already bought it, being that it made the game literally just seven bucks.
73cfb0 No.13835763
>>13835753
I hope you like grinding about 6x more for ops.
de8067 No.13835782
>>13835763
I figure I'll get burnt out long before that's a problem.
a00e1e No.13835796
>>13835782
issue is you would have all base ops before possible burnout on regular edition. luckily you won't be spending much on cosmetics cuz they're shit so its not like your grind bucks go anywhere but operators
db6f03 No.13835801
>>13835753
You have a TON of grinding to do to even acquire the basic operator. Poor choice m8
cf6102 No.13835916
>>13834603
>fake gaymer girl
Jesus fucking Christ abort this game in the womb.
40db15 No.13836112
d643d9 No.13836828
>>13834663
If I pull that mask off, will he die?
>>13836112
He's a big guy
c0076c No.13837411
>>13832475
>FIXED – Leaving the match after the interrogation starts causes it to stop before it completes, denying the ability.
Fuck it was so useful to give a middle finger to cavfags
c0076c No.13837459
>>13832709
>shock drone
Useful only for new players, i main twitch and already know what cams I can clear and what I can't even hope to reach for the maps like the cam outside of skyscraper isn't possible to reachbut the one in cafe Dostoyevsky top bar you need to get on the edge of the handrail to get it
>kapkan traps now knock you on your ass
Not sure about that but the deafening sounds as a good idea making rushing not an option as it wasyeah no, before was dead, now is 20hp out
>IQ's gadget could instead be an attachment on her primary like the heartbeat sensor in MW2
That actually would finally make her a suitable choice when other ops are already taken, we will stop having the devfag trying to push his waifu with invisible meme shit
>phones triggered by Dokki's logic bomb will play an op-dependent ringtone instead of an universal buzzing noise to let you know which op is nearby, f.e. Blackbeard has some dadrock playing, Bandit some hardstyle, Spetznaz some CHEEKI BREEKI, and Mute has it set on buzzing
Fuck that would allow you to instantly know where they guy is and who it is plus you can play some nice ringtone jokes as you said
>you can as defenders use Dokki's tablet from her corpse to use a logic bomb on attackers once which triggers attacker phones and disables attacker drone feeds temporarily, so she's a double-edged sword where shit players may be even a bigger detriment to their team, conversely her tablet can also be destroyed much like a defender can destroy the phones on his dead teammates
Will be something like cav interrogation? It would be useful to make it slightly less OP because will allow def to use it against the atk
7/10 good ideas anon sadly it will never happen
c0076c No.13837471
>>13832903
Yeah because shotty is the second best of the game so you have a good useful op.
Although, when I've started using mute I just placed the jammers to avoid droning and gone, then I've learned to place them, pick them up and place them on window or walls for thermite-fuze… surely is a easy pick because not many main mute but is not as easy as it seems
d80e36 No.13837536
>>13834817
>be echo
>have fun with yokai
>watching my waifu on my armscreen
>meet cute grill
>she likes games
>she is a neet
>fall in love with a 3DPD
>after a while she wants to do normalfag shit
>she is more and more bitchy and wanting to do kinky shit rather than handholding
>ask hibana
>she discover it's all fake
>get home
>get drunk
>hug pillow
10/10 sad story
15850b No.13838070
>>13837536
Never trust a gook :^)
4debcb No.13838486
I miss the good old days when you could just pick a fucking map to play and learn it, instead of random.
a00e1e No.13839457
>>13837536
>echo
>trusting 3d ever again after dating Ying
Echo sacrificed his wizardry to protect us from thots
>>13838486
go to matchmaking settings, turn T-hunt to classic only, turn all the other maps off and play lone wolf.
db6f03 No.13839562
>>13839457
>Echo sacrificed his wizardry
Who says he lost his virginity? Could have been merely dating.
a00e1e No.13841395
played some more TTS today and jesus christ I still haven't found better ways to hold your obj if zofia and doki are still alive
389480 No.13841605
>mfw I fell for the free weekend bait and bought the game
a00e1e No.13841968
>>13841605
go play and enjoy it while you can cuz shits about to get messy.
>tfw currently in denail phase in TTS because i fixed my settings and won some defense
they're still too powerful, but i love their guns so i wanna use em, but they're DIRTY
389480 No.13842293
>>13841968
it's like jewbisoft decided seeing newfags buy ELA solely for her op gun wasn't enough and now there's more of them.
b0e464 No.13842538
Im sorry the new map is shit.
It feels like an old Rainbow 6 map which is dandy and all but that kind of map just does not work in a Rainbow 6 like siege
b0e464 No.13842543
>>13834721
he uses a daewoo
a00e1e No.13842694
>>13842538
Going through the elevator shaft seems like a guaranteed deathtrap and getting from 2f to 1f once you're inside is a pain since there's only like 2 staircases down
9c7edc No.13843444
Sorry I'm late for this thread, so what I am about to mention might've already been brought up and there's too much to read after a 12 hour work shift.
So when the Logic Bomb is used, IQ's gadget can detect the cell phones that the Defenders have to pull out to turn off the ringing. Teaming IQ up with this skill seems to give her a considerable advantage, but only if utilized correctly.
c02923 No.13843956
>>13830278
>cuz slugs are cool
I've been wanting slugs in Siege for a while now, mostly because it is the quickest fix I can think of for Shotties.
Something like accessory/customization choice:
>Birdshot (highest spread, lowest range)
>Buckshot (medium spread and range)
>Slug (no spread, best range)
Might make shotguns more viable…
075aed No.13844052
I have the starter edition, is it worth buying the yr 1 bundle or year 2 pass? Or should I just individually buy certain operators? If it's the last one, which ones?
c02923 No.13844378
>>13844052
So far, I think the year 2 ops are much more interesting than the year 1 ones. If anything, I'd recommend getting the second year pass next time there's a sale and buy the year 1 ops you want with in-game currency.
5f0f46 No.13844437
>>13844052
>>13844378
>buying season pass at all
sorry but you oughta leave
d2d4e4 No.13844454
You know what I take back all the bad things I've said about Jaeger. Thank god he's in the game otherwise that Zofia whore would be unbearable.
075aed No.13844533
15850b No.13844659
>>13834721
> the game died with Health
Can you explain for a fellow new-siege-fag?
cf6102 No.13844756
>>13844659
They dropped the polish map and delayed the polish operators to "fix" 1300 bugs, and add five thousand more, worse ones. Additionally, they dropped the Polish season, the one that actually most interested people, instead of the two absolutely uninteresting gook seasons.
a00e1e No.13844790
>>13843444
IQ can ALREADY detect enemies using their phones, this isn't really a huge change, and if you're wearing decent headphones you can follow the noise cue alone. The pistol reworks might actually make her a little more viable since they take up less FOV and the recoil animation is turned down but her gadget still steals screen-space and denies her use of her three unique weapons
>>13844454
I actually want his ADS to get a buff now that defenders have to face an even greater onslaught of grenades
>>13844659
Alright the season that operation health took place is was supposed to be the honk-kong season, so it bumped HK forward and scrapped the GROM season. Just putting the grom ops within the HK/SK seasons and scrapping of the poland map. It also tackled a million bugfixes and tweaks which is nice but they didn't seem to live up to everything they claimed. Most frustratingly is it messed up their own roadmap, so if you weren't fucked in the ass enough for buying a season pass, you got fucked harder with ophealth and the consolation prize was a doc helmet, gun skin, and charm. After health Ela got introduced who is donut-steel tier and was incredibly busted out the gate, and her nerf didn't make her any less busted. White noise is just a further kick-in-the-dick because Dokk comes and makes roaming a liability to her entire team and makes it so echo and mute have to work twice as hard, and zofia brings the same overpowered issues that ela has. That being incredibly obnoxious concussion bombs that instead of just messing with your visuals it fucks up your mouse speed too. The designs really went down the tubes too because season 1 female ops were still within their units theme and looked professional, and season 2 started strong with Velvet Shell which seems generally considered a good addition. After Ophealth the gadgets got less creative and the operators got overdesigned
I honestly feel these would be incredibly fucking simple fixes but I doubt they'll get addressed until midseason AT BEST. Zof doesn't need 2 concussion bombs, concussion bombs should only fuck up your visuals and not your mouse speed, and dokks camera hack needs to be altered so being a roamer doesn't potentially fuck over your whole team. I would throw in an improvement on jeagers ADS too personally since good attacker comps will be grenade-hell now
a00e1e No.13844808
>>13844790
>and season 2 started strong with Velvet Shell
year 2 season 1*. To clarify a bit more
Year 1
-Black Ice
-Dust Line
-Skull Rain
-Red Crow
Year 2
-Velvet Shell
-Operation health (formerly blood orchid)
-Blood Orchid (was supposed to be GROM season)
-White Noise (current season)
15850b No.13844818
>>13844808
The lack of game modes really does this game a disservice as well.
a00e1e No.13844827
>>13844818
I always thought it would be cool if there was a casual-only mode where the damage doesn't reset between matches. Some sort of "hardcore" mode with lower TTK would be fun too i think. Since it's a 1-life-per-round game it would be tricky to add more variety but "limited time zombabs" certainly wasn't the fucking solution
9c7edc No.13845299
I'm seeing a lot of videos of people using Zofia's proximity concussion nade to basically scout out Vigil. Seems that you just need to see where it detonates and you have a decent idea of where the enemy is hiding in that particular area
15850b No.13845455
>>13844827
>mode where the damage doesn't reset between matches.
Damage for what though? The environment, players, the hostage? I'm not sure I follow.
a00e1e No.13845465
>>13845455
the environment
15850b No.13845593
>>13845465
That's probably not going to hold people over more than a few weeks.
a00e1e No.13845626
>>13845593
it would just be something else to play, like I said its tough to make more game types for a 1life game
1ac6ef No.13845747
Best way to grind renown? Getting 25k for some operators feels like it's going to be a fucking pain in the ass, and im not paying for passes.
a00e1e No.13845772
>>13845747
just keep playing, they've made it harder to grind but once you have all the base ops and the weapon add-ons you want for them the renown will pile up and you'll have nothing to spend it on anyway. If you really end up enjoying the game and get impatient though, -DO NOT- buy credits, season passes are actually a cheaper method to get the DLC ops with real money. This isn't saying 'buy a season pass, goy" but rather if you're impatient about it and willing to hand over shekels thats the cheapest way
70cbe7 No.13847087
Starter Edition worth it? it's on sale for like 7 bucks, but how bad is the grind?
a00e1e No.13847175
>>13847087
DO NOT PURCHASE STARTER EDITION
it fucks up the grind for getting the standard operators which in the standard edition is a pretty quick process. The grind is starter is very bad, i would say it probably takes like <10 hours of play in the standard edition to get all the base operators and it would take like 5x that in starter. If you're on the fence about handing over ubi your hard earned shekels to play this game (as you should be) wait for a free weekend or a sale rather than getting tricked by starter edition. I don't think there is a way to 'upgrade' out of starter if you end up liking the game too and you'll be stuck with less operators to work with which will probably hurt your overall experience or get you stuck playing recruit (no special gadget or gun add ons) because other players picked from your limited selection of ops.
70cbe7 No.13847492
>>13847175
alright, i'll guess ill pick up the standard edition for 20 bucks
a00e1e No.13848300
>>13847492
keep an eye on your hour count, if its not for you refund the fuck out of it. I love this game and i've been playing since year 1 season 2 but don't let ubisoft jerk you around. If you don't like it refund the bastard
4debcb No.13848494
are castles barricades bulletproof during the animation?
40db15 No.13848610
>>13848494
I always wondered that with reinforced walls
cf6102 No.13848781
>>13848494
Maybe, probably not.
>>13848610
Those 100% do stop bullets while being set up, but you still can be killed if you haven't lifted the wall above your head yet.
90182a No.13849450
>>13848494
I believe they are, I remember it saving my skin a few times
26bc68 No.13849707
a00e1e No.13850207
>>13848781
>Those 100% do stop bullets while being set up,
its pretty funny that they have nice active hitboxes for the reinforcement animations and stuff like shields while reloading but ash still seems to have a shapeshifting skull