52136a No.13811508
I know there is currently a discussion about USUM spoilers and all, also, there are usually some fullderp and competitive discussions here and there, can we just ramble about the current and past games in general? recently I got a 2DS so I can finally catch up from XY and beyond.
>the good
>the bad
>the ugly
>the stupid
>trading
>hacking
>breeding
>etc.
90410a No.13811542
>Got a copy of Super Mystery Dungeon because I heard that they brought back the personality test in the beginning
>Also heard the plotline is good if not quite Explorers tier
>Start up a new file
>Stuck going to virtual elementary school and my only friend is fucking annoying
>Can't even play hooky
Is it worth the slog of the early game lads
52136a No.13811555
>>13811542
I was never onto those or the Ranger series, I always wondered why Mystery Dungeon never gave you some stuff for the mainline games like Ranger did.
22124a No.13811562
Theres already a fave pokemon thread on the catalog.
Reported for dupe thread
52136a No.13811571
>>13811562
Checked the catalog, is not the same kind of thread.
22124a No.13811581
>>13811571
Great I cant wait to make a recurring general about pokemon tcg for gbc
52136a No.13811594
>>13811581
I think you can use this one since is basically the FFA kind of thread, unless you are trying to be obnoxious and play junior moderator.
52136a No.13811861
Anyway, what are the best wonder trades one can give? I mean, pokemon with egg moves? starters, anything?
aa6deb No.13811890
>>13811861
Version exclusives.
Since this thread is pretty much shit, dubz names my US trainer.
>Dokuro
9e76d4 No.13811919
>>13811508
I like these threads when they turn into bullying.
52136a No.13811926
>>13811890
What starter?
Alison Rapp
aa6deb No.13811931
>>13811926
Sphere birb.
>Grapist
310901 No.13811934
digimon was always better
25223a No.13811941
US/UM feels more like a rom hack of sun and moon more than an actual (((new))) pokemon game. B2/W2 was the last good game.
aa6deb No.13811947
>>13811941
>Please look at this borderline porn to validate my opinion
>Grapist
25223a No.13811954
>>13811947
well you replied, so it worked :^)
aa6deb No.13811959
>>13811954
>People noticed, so it isn't crap
>Grapist
52136a No.13811967
>>13811934
I don't think the games are similar enough to compare them like that, but that's just my opinion.
865956 No.13812068
Why does Gardevoir sound like a Vocaloid milf?
52136a No.13812102
>>13812068
Never played Pokken Tournament, but I was kind of not happy with how cry samples for the old pokemon were changed from XY onwards.
4da809 No.13817688
>>13811508
Are there any ROMhacks that improve the speed/pacing of gen4? The only major issue I had with the gen as a whole was text & battle speed.
ca9826 No.13817779
I made a thread a while back where I autistically rated every pokeball design. I mentioned that I liked using Ultras on legendaries because they caught Mewtwo/Deoxys/Articuno/Zapdos/Moltres in the anime spin-offs, and because in Sun and Moon, they were the in-game pokeball that was used to contain the Elite Four's pokemon, Champion Cynthia's pokemon, and Anabel's legendaries.
Now, with USUM's release, I'm not so sure anymore. Giovanni, Archie, Maxie, Cyrus, Ghetsis, and Lysandre ALL keep their best pokemon in Master balls. Even the legendary ones such as Kyogre, Groudon, Palkia, Reshiram, Yveltal, and Mega Mewtwo Y.
It made me rethink whether or not I should stop using Ultras and switch to Masters. Or fuck it, maybe I should just catch every pokemon in the classic red ones? I'm not really sure anymore.
b5ac5b No.13817795
>>13812068
Blame animefags. Fucking nips decided pokemon should say their names for the anime, just making animal cries wasn't casual enough for their audience. And then gayfreak caved in with that shit, even changed Pikachu's canon cry to the voiceover.
77b2c5 No.13817798
>>13817779
Go red only and be a real man.
ae3e50 No.13817806
>Enjoy pokemon since i was a kid
>Modern Pokemon games are way too easy
>Rom hack versions are autism levels of hard and grindan
Why is it stuck between these two extremes?
b5ac5b No.13817811
>>13817806
Pokemon was easy since the beginning, it's just as a kid you weren't gud so you thought it was harder than it really was.
That said. How the fuck do you even measure how hard an RPG is? By the amount of grindan you need to get anywhere? Grindan just makes the game shit, it's nothing but a cheap way to extend playtime.
1eca10 No.13817815
ca9826 No.13817858
>>13817811
The gym leader castles in the old pokemon stadium games presented more of a challenge than the gameboy/gbc games did. Especially when you unlock round 2 mode. Probably as difficult as it's gonna get as far as gen 1 and gen 2 challenges are concerned.
>>13817798
Would be cheap as fuck, I guess. I only get a few Masters per game, so the limited quantity is not gonna cut it.
ae3e50 No.13817861
>>13817811
>Pokemon was easy since the beginning
I mean it wasn't a super hard series but there was at least some challenge compared to now where you can just spam one attack and win 90% of the time and in the older games it got harder as it went along with gym leaders/trainers having more and more Pokemon to battle with and the games were usually well paced where you'd be close to the level of the gym when you arrived there.
With modern day pokemon, you're over leveled, gym leaders and trainers have a handful of pokemon at best, and you can just smash your head against your DS and win.
With rom hacks, usually you have gym leaders start out with 6 pokemon, usually with max IV/EVs and have access to multiple super potions and you usually get to them underleveled.
9fb823 No.13817870
>>13817861
which rom hacks would you recommend?
437835 No.13817877
I played UM early and I agree it feels like a ROM hack. I would recommend it over the regular if you haven't played either, but if you have played the original you probably don't want to bother playing the Ultra version unless you're really into Pokemon games.
Here are some cute foxes.
1eca10 No.13817898
>>13817877
I think you mean cutest fox.
a3ab75 No.13818236
>>13817795
Fuck that retarded shit. If I can ever make a fangame, I'm literally typing out different sounds for every last one like when you talk to Legendaries and not a single one will sound like a retarded third person name.
2c65fc No.13818276
The series has been ran into the ground and lacks the creativity and game design prowess behind the actual good games in the series.
If they don't release a stadium game for the Switch, they're beyond redemption.
The series already has microtransactions just to transfer from previous gens and it's aimed at manchildren through pandering
00351c No.13818277
>>13817877
can I hug the fox?
1a40fe No.13818291
>>13818276
3DS Pokemon games have been lacking all around.
eb011a No.13818310
>the 3rd/sequel version of this game is just the old one but with a few more things
It's like these people have never played a pokemon game before. They have always done this.
b5ac5b No.13818405
>>13818276
Espeon wasn't introduced until gen2.
f7c217 No.13818406
Just bought moon and the pokeball new 2ds xl. It's not atrociously bad so far. Although some of the new Pokemon look stupid as fuck. Round birb is adorable.
Can I wonder trade Toys R Us Arceus clones from my old Diamond game?
38df10 No.13818459
>>13811508
Why are grass starters always the worst? It's kind of frustrating to find they get outclassed by the other starters, even when playing casually. There are five things super effective against Grass compared to 3 for Fire and 2 for Water. Fire is super effective against 4 types while Water and Grass are only super effective against 3, two of those being Rock and Ground for both, while Fire deals with the somewhat difficult Steel type. What's more, Fire always seems to get paired up with better typing and stat combinations, and there has only ever been 1 mono-fire starter, while Water and Grass have both had 3.
I'm not the only one who noticed this shit, right?
6d2677 No.13820690
>>13811542
SMD's early game isn't the worst, it hops fairly quickly after where I think you're at. None of the follow-ups are quite as hands-off as the first games, sadly.
>>13811555
The Ranger concept was in-house Nintendo's, while the MD series are Chunsoft's doing.
94d7e5 No.13820818
>the bad
How about Dedenne still not having a special fairy-type move. Or Oricorio not getting Heat Wave. Shitmons need love, too.
Or there still being ONE (1) physical fairy-type move.
>>13812102
> but I was kind of not happy with how cry samples for the old pokemon were changed from XY onwards.
same here. the stadium games did it better, in my opinion.
e6108d No.13821452
>>13818405
That's mt. Silver. Red is training and gold stumbles upon him
It even happens in game
a7eda9 No.13821627
Been replaying colloseum. Pretty fun now that I realize that majority of the shadow Pokemon are shitmon and plan on building a team around them. Also I forgot just how big the Pyrite town dungeon is, just hit the halfway point (underground PC and healer) and it feels like its been forever.
55bbb8 No.13821696
>>13811941
>>13811954
Damn Lusamine is best girl. Shame I don't give a fuck about the game.
5c9733 No.13822636
>>13818459
Pretty Bulbasaur wasn't the worst Gen 1 starter in general. Plus, grass in general is pretty good early on, considering the gyms in some of the earlier gens. I will agree that in the grand scheme of things, Meganium is easily the weakest of its gen, though. The others seem to be debatable at best.
>and there has only ever been 1 mono-fire starter
And 3 of those fire dual-types were fire/fighting.
ca9826 No.13823164
> New pokes: Poipole, Naganadel, Stakataka, Blacephalon
> New forms: Pikachu (Partner Cap), Lycanroc (Dusk), Necrozma (Dusk Mane), Necrozma (Dawn Wings), Necrozma (Ultra)
Only 9 new designs? What a load of shit.
92c462 No.13823174
>>13817877
Gamefreak knew exactly what they were doing when they designed her.
>>13823164
Mid-gen games usually don't have any new pokemon at all, and only a few new forms if any.
4da809 No.13823221
>>13822636
>And 3 of those fire dual-types were fire/fighting.
Even worse, it was 3 generations in a row. That's about 10 years GameFreak was convinced the new fighting starters had to have the fire sub-type.
30dadc No.13823634
I'm talking about perfection.
STEEL
FAIRY
DRAGON
What are you, a casual who still relies on Fire/Water/Grass cores?
a1f164 No.13823906
>>13823634
Grass/Steel
Fire/Fairy
Water/Dragon
1ebf86 No.13823941
>>13818276
>If they don't release a stadium game for the Switch,
There will never be another Stadium/3D battle sim game as long as the main series games are in 3D.
>The series already has microtransactions just to transfer from previous gens
[citation needed]
>and it's aimed at manchildren through pandering
[citation needed]
1eca10 No.13823976
>>13823174
>her
I'm glad someone else gets it
2c65fc No.13824389
>>13823941
You have to pay for a bank subscription to transfer from earlier gens and the developers are catering to the adults who grew up with the game and have disposable income. There's a reason all the previous villains (with their original designs, not the shitty remake art from just a generation ago) are being crammed into this game. There's a reason they readd features that were in games like yellow, Crystal and Emerald into the new gens. For every step forward after gen 3, they took two steps back.
0b662e No.13825349
The real question is, where are the fun 7th gen romhacks that actually make it a good game?
1ffe5a No.13825529
>>13823634
>not the perfect Rock, Ice and Bug uselessness core
bb5452 No.13825542
9b6c72 No.13825982
>>13811508
I'm playing Blaze Black. Enjoying it a lot with all the pokemon you can catch + the more difficult battles.
>the bad
I fucking hate natures. Does nothing but trigger my autism when one of my mons has a bad nature.
5aa89a No.13828050
>grow up with pogey
>fall in love with the comfy and the rad saturday morning feel of the franchise
>series becomes some shitty cashgrab franchise with no real expansion on previous features or anything
>literally just samey shit over and over
>games are easy with practically no postgame
>games continually become more and more about batshit, clunkily written anime plotlines instead of more lowkey adventures that let the music and battles do the talking with some cool story moments sprinkled throughout the game
>battle system is losing its charm now that I'm older because I've been spoiled by other RPGs
>it's never going to reinnovate
>it's just going to be stuck playing like a gameboy game and never going to get a ton of kickass features to make the simple gameplay have a lot of awesome shit surrounding it so you can have fun with that
>the potential is all god damn thrown away because TPC have just become sated with money coming from mindless fans who will buy anything
>franchise practically feels like an entirely different series at this point
>tfw just wanted to get comfy and have fun with pogeyman but this shit keeps happening and my childhood favorite series is just going to fade into mediocrity and never improve on its flaws or do anything amazing and innovative ever again
>this god damn bullshit
>amiibo-locked legendaries are probably going to be a thing someday
5aa89a No.13829733
>>13825982
God grinding for natures and IVs and shit is a chore. The reward isn't even that good either as the battle system isn't particularly innovative or exciting either. It's like, what am I grinding for? Just a bunch of simple battles that are so simple to the point where most of it is about mindgames since there are so few options you can take? Hell the entire balance of the game gets thrown off if you use only one Pokemon; it's kind of fucking gay.
6262f5 No.13829832
>>13828050
>Want to play XY to try and give the series a go after not playing since Diamond
>Event pokemon exist
>Can't play knowing I can't ever get these
I honestly rather have those Amiibo legendary pokemon instead of the system in place atm.
1ebf86 No.13830118
>>13829832
>>Can't play knowing I can't ever get these
Pkhex and trading exists, autist.
1ebf86 No.13830121
>>13828050
>>battle system is losing its charm now that I'm older because I've been spoiled by other RPGs
It's the opposite for me: most RPGs actually have a worse system than Pokemon does because Pokemon allows for variations in team building and stat optimization.
a6e18a No.13830439
>>13829832
>cant play knowing youll never get event pokemon
>what is mew
5aa89a No.13830872
>>13830121
Ahh fair enough, so it's like building a deck of trading cards, almost. You just only get your first initial hand and you can play whatever you want, first turn, but you can tweak all of those cards to your hearts content. I get that. I never got too far into teambuilding and honestly I think you're talking from a more competitive aspect whereas I'm kind of just saying shit like FF1 was exhilarating for me when I did my first complete playthrough of it earlier this year.
>>13829832
>implying you were ever going to do anything but look at that Jirachi/Celebi/whatever anyways
Try not to get too upset about missing out on something like that. I get the feeling you're the sort of dude who buys a GOTY edition because it has a few extra character costumes even though it's like 10 bucks more. I'd much rather not have Amiibo. Events felt special when I actually got them back in the days of Platinum and whatnot, when they actually did some cool shit, like the Rotom Key.
6ffdac No.13831719
Anyone have team suggestions for the Battle Arena in Emerald?
9b6c72 No.13832910
>>13829832
>I honestly rather have those Amiibo
what a gay
5aa89a No.13838231
>>13831719
No honestly I kind of just threw shit in there and hoped for the best.