338a7a No.13729990
Can A Hat in Time compete with Mario Odyssey, or does it fall completely short in comparison?
4f82a1 No.13730017
AHIT is fun but it's a low budget indie game through and through. You can't put it in the same category as the juggernaut that is the Mario franchise.
5a9a71 No.13730033
Gameplay doesn't matter, only brand does.
If you swap main characters, crows will still buy the one with mario in it.
f02785 No.13730036
7492a9 No.13730038
>>13729990
>Can A Hat in Time compete with Mario Odyssey,
Nah, most people heard of nintendo and mario even if they don't play vidya. Hat in Time, probably not so much.
9aa21c No.13730044
A hat in time is good but it needs polish
30988c No.13730061
A Hat in Time is a really good game despite a number of rough edges, the short length, and the lead dev being turbocancer. The thing with Nintendo is for Mario games they spend a lot of time ironing out the rough edges that indies just say, "fuck it good enough" with.
338a7a No.13730085
>>13730017
How can't I when they're both hat-centric platformers released within the same short window of time?
>>13730033
I don't like Mario, and I never have. I had a Sega Genesis as a kid. That being said, I still bought Odyssey and I'm enjoying it rather well because it's an extremely well-made, polished game that has a lot to offer that I can't say previous games ever had.
>>13730038
I'm not talking about comparing financial success
>>13730044
>>13730061
>lacks polish
This is absolutely the biggest detractor.
Success is dependent on effort.
eadb00 No.13730122
>supporting game made by commies
454987 No.13730145
>>13730122
>he fell for a reddit shoop
Hat girl made me want to have a daughter to take care of, so there's that.
7492a9 No.13730189
>>13730085
>I'm not talking about comparing financial success
Then as a technical and gameplay comparison only? Everyone else already covered it then, whichever one has the better execution and more polish.
454987 No.13730236
>>13730178
Go back to Neogaf and stay there, you autistic waste of life.
276976 No.13730267
>>13730145
I'll take care of her for ya anon
d93266 No.13730278
>>13730033
Maybe the reason the Mario brand has so much weight is the consistant high quality.
5ddac8 No.13730279
>>13730236
Deflecting the main argument, his source is shit but his message is still on point. Attack the message, not the carrier.
The one who needs going back is you.
5a9a71 No.13730293
>>13730278
>>13730085
It doesn't crash or drops frames, I give you that.
Otherwise I dunno what this "polish" buzzword means.
It's boring and generic platformer that stands out only on recognizable characters i.e. brand.
d93266 No.13730307
>>13730293
How did Mario become recognisable? Why does his brand carry so much power? Thirty years of conistantly good, sometimes groundbreaking games maybe? Nah, people are just desperate to play as some fat plumber with a mustache.
5a9a71 No.13730321
>>13730307
>How did Skyrim become recognisable? Why does his brand carry so much power? Six years of conistantly good, sometimes groundbreaking mods maybe? Nah, people are just desperate to play as some fat futa loli with a mustache.
Yeah you right, I guess advertising and masses being idiots have nothing to do with it.
276976 No.13730331
>>13730321
Here's your (you)
5a9a71 No.13730336
>>13730331
I didn't want a (you), I wanted an argument.
d93266 No.13730343
>>13730321
Well people don't play Skyrim "because it's Skyrim". Since there was no Skyrim brand before Skyrim, and The Elder Scrolls was borderline niche. A lot of people just genuinely like Skyrim.
5a9a71 No.13730362
>>13730343
And there was no "mario" before super mario bros, with donkey kong being borderline niche.
And I do realize that some people genuinely like bland shit.
But it's popular solely because advertising, not because it's good. It's not good.
d93266 No.13730369
>>13730362
Maybe Super Mario Bros was a good game, and you're the one who's wrong.
Advertising can't explain away everything. Look at Destiny. Look at Bubsy.
0d1ee7 No.13730379
>>13730332
Confirmed 4AM thread faggot.
d93266 No.13730385
>>13730362
Also, Donkey Kong was never borderline niche.
5a9a71 No.13730417
>>13730369
>Maybe Super Mario Bros was a good game, and you're the one who's wrong. Advertising can't explain away everything
Sure millions of flies can't be wrong.
>Look at Destiny
It was super profitable as far as I heard.
>Look at Bubsy
What about it? It's barely shilled and nobody gives a fuck about it.
d93266 No.13730422
>>13730417
The original Bubsy was pushed hard to be the next Mario/Sonic.
ab8a41 No.13730640
>>13730236
>it's a reddit shoop
>no it isn't, here's video proof
>g-go back to reddit you fucking autist
that's some impressive projection
64e483 No.13730643
>>13730085
Good choice with the costume.
19820b No.13730744
>>13730386
Beeflies are the comfiest shit.
fe087c No.13730746
>>13729990
>tfw watching vinesauce streams of mario odyssey
>tfw listening for an hour how he praises disney star wars movies
Its never been a time like this, when i wanted to buy switch just to not listen to that faggot praising shitty pop music and popular hollyjew movies.
But hey, despite i wrote that i won't follow my own advice and will have to watch his shit anyway.
5ff64d No.13730765
>>13730744
>>13730386
have a bee fly pokemon
1bfefe No.13730814
>>13730085
What's with female voice?
I don't follow mario, did he always sound like a woman?
dd2045 No.13730854
>>13729990
>Can A Hat in Time compete with Mario Odyssey
No.
>or does it fall completely short in comparison?
Yes.
It's not even a question worth asking. It's like wondering if a shack in the woods can compete with the empire state building. There's a charm to the shack, but come the fuck on.
f7b63f No.13730859
>>13730814
Some of the more feminine sounds are the cap, which is it's own character in this game.
338a7a No.13730884
>>13730814
What awful country are you from where females sound like that?
1bfefe No.13730896
d30dcf No.13730908
>>13730746
Why don't you just watch someone else's stream? Who watches streams of Mario games, anyway?
c10f5e No.13730924
Whatever criticisms there are about the quality aside, Odyssey has an absolutely insane amount of content, something hatty time can't even come close to competing with
BUT while both have some really strong platforming controls even the VERY polished Mario controls come off as a bit clunky compared to Hat Kid's
Odyssey feels like every movement option is given very strict rules about where and how you can use them
yes on occasion you can do some fancy stuff involving hat throw into dive, but thats pretty much where the depth ends
meanwhile hatty time lets you save your double jump until after a wall jump, dives can be canceled and give speed boosts if timed right, missing the ledge by a pixel isn't a death sentence, hell you can even get a power up that ignores the obligatory wasted time of a botched dive into a wall
you never feel like you're denied control at any point, if you think somethings worth trying, odds are it'll work
Odyssey has a pace it set and it makes damn sure you're gonna follow that pace no matter what
A Hat in Time lets you break that pace the second you realize that you can
fe087c No.13730930
>>13730908
Nobody has entertaining voice and personality comfy enough to listen to.
120ee9 No.13730931
I dropped hat in time because I hated the whole aesthetic of the bird area, I can't enjoy the gameplay if I can't stand looking at the game. Meanwhile I'm 550 moons into Odyssey and I've been playing it most of my free time since it came out.
1bc15f No.13731686
>>13730122
At least they kept Jontron as a voice actor.
79eb72 No.13731696
>>13730814
The cap is talking
f6ac1b No.13731702
>>13730859
But there was already a female cap at the end of the game. They can't be both girls.
977798 No.13731703
I wish mario, sonic and all other idiotic corporate mascots would just die already so they could move on and create something fresh
6d67f7 No.13731739
>>13731703
You know we can have both?
78ffdb No.13731783
>>13730643
>There's no captain suit to match the captain hat.
The hat is so good but it's frustrating not having anything that goes with it perfectly.
948d86 No.13731787
Hat has something close to challenge.
People hate that.
b89c93 No.13731815
>>13731739
>You know we can have both?
Like Marionic?
e768fd No.13731819
>>13729990
It couldn't even compete with Cuphead, what makes you think it can even attack Mario Odyssey's sales?
AHiT is a pretty nice niche, but they chose the absolute worst time to come out. IMO they should have just waited for Odyssey to release and then launch somewhere around February. What they did cucked them out of both the nostalgiafag audience and the platformer audience. Plus their game is hella short.
b61233 No.13731853
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>>13730814
>did he always sound like a woman?
There's a big difference between a tenor and a woman, Anon.
7a1fec No.13731870
Stupid question because I'm a lazy shitbag
Is a Hat in Time only on steam/gog or do they have an actual website they sell it on like a somewhat competent developer?
I do know when the Lead Dev was a TF2 server administrator he was competent enough to have all the downloads for their servers hosted on a website.
f4b4b5 No.13731916
>>13730267
I want to mind break hat girl
c0e20b No.13731938
977798 No.13731976
>>13731938
>emoji
Just me and my 💕daddy💕, hanging out I got pretty hungry🍆 so I started to pout 😞 He asked if I was down ⬇for something yummy 😍🍆 and I asked what and he said he'd give me his 💦cummies!💦 Yeah! Yeah!💕💦 I drink them!💦 I slurp them!💦 I swallow them whole💦 😍 It makes 💘daddy💘 😊happy😊 so it's my only goal… 💕💦😫Harder daddy! Harder daddy! 😫💦💕 1 cummy💦, 2 cummy💦💦, 3 cummy💦💦💦, 4💦💦💦💦 I'm 💘daddy's💘 👑princess 👑but I'm also a whore! 💟 He makes me feel squishy💗!He makes me feel good💜! 💘💘💘He makes me feel everything a little should!~ 💘💘💘 👑💦💘Wa-What!💘💦👑
7a1ed7 No.13731985
>>13729990
Being not a retard and understanding you mean in quality, not sales, eh. There's clearly a lot of effort put into AHiT, and the mod support is great, but its short, and there's a lot of little issues that keep it from being fantastic. Odyssey has the problem of being real easy, but it has a lot more movement options, it's much longer, and it managed to have both alternate hats and alternate outfits.
0ea4a0 No.13732025
>>13730336
Kojima really was a big fan of Bowie, wasn't he?
de9612 No.13732351
>>13730293
Hat in time has collision issues and doesn't have a ton of content. It's art style is lacking as well. I am liking a hat in time but you can instantly tell that Mario is the game with more total development time.
7f3708 No.13732668
AHIT is faster and has tighter controls imo. Odyssey is as slow as any mario which is fine I guess. Atleast it's not some 2.5 abortion.
7d7b9a No.13734118
bff341 No.13734124
Platformers are retard mode shit.
139b4a No.13734143
Can [indie game] compete with [game produced by videogame corporation with a budget of dozens of millions], or does it fall completely short in comparison
66e22d No.13734158
>>13730145
> he thinks the dev isn't a communist cuck
> he thinks that commie "joke" is photoshopped
MechatheSlag (JonasKaerlev) follows feminist frequency and has retweeted FullMcintosh numerous times on twitter. He's also a furry. He's pure fucking cancer, don't be a dipshit.
fb10ee No.13734171
>>13734158
its a meme
pirate the game if you care about muh politics, retardo
3b52ef No.13734192
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>>13732668
At least neither is as bad as the new Sonic Forces.
ea74f0 No.13734298
>game with literal communist propaganda on it
>good
Nice meme, lad.
52ef60 No.13734304
>>13734298
There's literally nothing wrong with communism. Read a book, drumpfer.
ea74f0 No.13734311
>>13734304
Suck my dick, (1).
52ef60 No.13734325
>>13734311
>being so triggered by communism he refuses to play a video game
Really, this is mental illness.
ea74f0 No.13734336
>>13731783
There's the sailor suit I guess.
0518d7 No.13734337
>>13734325
Your gaslighting wont work on me, commie
ea74f0 No.13734344
>>13734325
>Collectathon that doesn't even let you collect everything.
yeah, nah.
3ba7e4 No.13734366
>>13734344
You really love /leftypol/ board owner so much, you post him everywhere? Maybe you're a closed homo yourself?
7e8957 No.13734369
>>13734344
>>13734311
Won't somebody check these?
1a044b No.13734373
>>13734325
>leftist trying to define mental illness
go back to sucking off night in the woods
ea74f0 No.13734377
>>13734366
Stop being so triggered, piggy.
ea74f0 No.13734392
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>tfw getting all this sick dubs
0518d7 No.13734395
>>13734366
>ywn Seek out /leftypol/s BO and pay him a million dollars to do a bestiality porn with pigs called #Porked
ea74f0 No.13734402
>>13734395
Are you doing it for a friend?
haha…
0518d7 No.13734411
>>13734402
I was just doing it as a joke haha you know haha I don't really want to see some faggot get rammed by a pigs corkscrew cock its just a prank bro
ha ha
ea74f0 No.13734422
>>13734411
Haha, okay, I was just asking for a friend. I wonder how Yoshi's eggs smell?
h a h a
91ea80 No.13734441
>a game that benefits greatly from a free market supports communism
>let's fight the power ya fuck those capitalist pigs
>posted from my Iphone X
>>13734304
>being so assblasted by trump and wanting to fit in so much with others that you support a terrible system of government
You are just as bad as the fascists you claim everyone to be.
27e798 No.13734444
>>13734366
>waaah stop reminding us
How's your board mutiny going, by the way?
ea74f0 No.13734447
>>13734441
You almost got those sick quads of 4 brah.
b89c93 No.13734474
>>13734444
Quads of truth checked.
>>13734452
Anyone have that pic of the board re-activation priority list of 8ch where it showed /leftypol/ lower than even /pone/?
0518d7 No.13734491
>>13734474
>Anyone have that pic of the board re-activation priority list of 8ch where it showed /leftypol/ lower than even /pone/?
I have more than that tbh. I have the emotional wreck of a hormone-injected BO responding to it. Great stuff
fb4f79 No.13734534
>>13734491
>porky being this fucking asshurt over a board restoration
de9612 No.13734535
>>13734298
That has literally nothing to do with the gameplay.
b89c93 No.13734552
>>13734491
>I have more than that tbh. I have the emotional wreck of a hormone-injected BO responding to it. Great stuff
Jesus christ that is still funny as fuck, thanks for posting it.
e27116 No.13734562
>>13734491
>be put last because of how many fucking bots you use to boost your numbers
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY ARE WE PUT LAST
1a044b No.13734571
the dev doxxed the sjw french cuck maxofs2d so the commie joke I'm willing to put off as a ill advised joke, even if it's fully serious the game's worth a pirate
ea74f0 No.13734627
bdea37 No.13734735
>>13730924
>is given very strict rules about where and how you can use them
The fuck are you on about?
>meanwhile hatty time lets you save your double jump until after a wall jump
You can throw the hat after a wall jump.
>missing the ledge by a pixel isn't a death sentence
Neither is it in Mario because you can throw the hat and change your directional momentum.
>Odyssey has a pace it set and it makes damn sure you're gonna follow that pace no matter what
Again, the fuck are you on about? You can use the moveset it gives to skip massive portions of obstacles if you so choose and are capable.
>A Hat in Time lets you break that pace the second you realize that you can
So does Mario.
bdea37 No.13734748
>>13731938
>>13731976
I thought emojis were disabled because some faggot figured out how to break threads with them or something?
bfde89 No.13734840
>>13734735
Was going to come in and say this, too.
The speedruns for this game are insane, and have actually changed my opinion of Odyssey heavily, for that last point you raised.
I only thought the game was railroading me, in the ways I could get things. But watching the game be beaten in under an hour and a half, on a bad run, had me realizing I could use the skills I acquired from beating it, to really blitz through previous challenges.
The craziest part is it's borderline Super Metroid, with how much they let you skip if you're good. What I thought was a fun game, with a lot of unnecessary dependency on captures and gimmicks, lacking in platforming challenges, turned out to have had the entire game built around that.
bdea37 No.13734870
>>13734840
>But watching the game be beaten in under an hour and a half, on a bad run
Video? Best I've seen is around 1:40-ish and was in 480p.
32c505 No.13734922
I'm so tired of this shit and Cuckhead getting daily threads. Do you retards play anything else aside from the trendy new Steam games?
8183a2 No.13734932
>>13734922
Just make threads about the great games you're playing like a well-adjusted /v/tard.
bfde89 No.13734968
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>>13734870
Embed is the run in question. The entire community has since surpassed this, but I think his commentary is good and informative, of just what you can do in this game.
If you want just speed, and shit, this one guy, P4ntz, has been getting faster each day, and has it around 1:18
bdea37 No.13734981
>>13734968
>but I think his commentary is good and informative
Any without a faggot ranting in the corner? The one with shitty quality I watched was Nipponese and pure gameplay.
a115e8 No.13735006
>>13734748
I think some browsers have intrinsic emoji support now. It only a basic Unicode version of the emoji and it different from the "official" emoji.
Note the difference from this 👺 and the video.
ed6405 No.13735016
>>13734304
>larp as intellectual on the internet after downloading some diaries of silly brainfarts talking about shit neither you nor the author understands and reading some revisionist image macros
>not reading the signs hes paid to hold up by Soros
Try reading a real book
f290a2 No.13735070
>>13729990
no because nintendrones will keep eating up whatever slop nintendo throws up
6d67f7 No.13735084
>>13735070
>timeless masterpieces
>slop
Back to the Bloodborne box with you, sonny.
96d1dd No.13735090
>>1373>>13734158
Congratulations anon, you just went full horseshoe theory. Instead of judging a game by it's merits you judge it by the political opinions of somebody who worked on it.
Ironically this is exactly the same thing that makes feminists unbearable. Waaah, women get beaten in GTA V. Waaaah, there's communist commentary in a Hat in time. is exactly the same shit. Fuck, go date a femenist, you have exactly the same values anyway so I'm sure it'll bloom into a marriage.
Also, videogames aren't made by a single person. Not even most indie games.
To get back on topic, I think a hat in time is the better game. It seems to be made with the classic platformer design mentality of designing worlds around around how the character moves. Whereas Odyssey seems to be the other way round, a world that is designed first, with a character designed to move around in it. It's why most of the worlds feel so vacant and flat, and why there's 600 power moons dropped around in every level. The game has become about the destination instead of the journey.
Even though, I haven't played either game yet, because hahahahaha, switch on the one hand and fuck paying 30 bucks for a game that seems to last 5 hours on the other hand.
Just to spite your petulant saging I'm gonna add a picture to my post to bump the thread.
f290a2 No.13735095
>>13735084
>new nintendo games
>timeless masterpieces
>if you disagree with me y-you're a sonygger!!!!!!!!!
oh i'm laffin'
96d1dd No.13735096
6d67f7 No.13735103
>>13735095
Ten good reasons why Obyssey isn't a timeless masterpiece, now.
1d00c2 No.13735107
>>13735090
>horseshoe theory
Go to bed, Sargon.
1eea16 No.13735113
>>13734325
>>13734304
>>13734441
We did you all respond to bait?
f290a2 No.13735115
>>13735103
you have to spend $300+ just to play it or wait 10 years for an emulator. that's the only reason i need tbh
1a044b No.13735120
>>13735107
that's the part you cherrypick out? Not the
<I'm gonna add a picture to my post to bump the thread.
ce72fa No.13735124
>>13734158
>Liked aHiT
>Dev has to be an anti-intelligence faggot
I'm sad now.
6d67f7 No.13735131
>>13735115
>it's bad because I'm poor
1a236f No.13735132
What if I like That weird girl and Mario?
99e77d No.13735133
>>13735124
You can like the game and dislike the creator. Just don't buy the game yourself.
d1999e No.13735146
>>13735131
>it's bad because I'm poor
Sounds like capitalism
f290a2 No.13735148
>>13735131
>nintendrone using "poorfag" as an argument just like a sonygger would
like pottery
96d1dd No.13735155
>>13735107
Go get your hepatitis treatment Idubbz.
a308d4 No.13735158
Just posting to say the Mafia King boss in Hat in Time does not represent the rest of the game's bosses.
They move much faster, have more moves & variations on them, and require quicker reflexes.
9ebaba No.13735182
>>13735158
Funny because I had the most trouble on that boss. The others were easier.
1a236f No.13735189
>>13735158
Hat wasn't all that hard but I still enjoyed the hell out of it and want more.
9414e5 No.13735190
>>13730896
So this is where all your aids come from.
6d67f7 No.13735197
>>13735146
>lol look at these people in sweatshops, who are probably happy just to have jobs at all
>we should take that away from them
9414e5 No.13735214
>>13735197
Dude, lets bring communism to them. This surely worked for the better in russia and china :^)
99e77d No.13735222
>>13729990
I'm enjoying AHiT more than Odessy tbh.
I like the music so much more in AHiT as well as the controls. It seems like Mario has a bit of delay when doing jumps as well as being "slippery". I'm not sure if it's due to comparing using an Xbox 360 controller for AHiT vs the switch remotes in Odessy.
>>13730293
Pretty much >>13732351
AHiT has tons of places where hatgirl would slide and stop moving. Thankfully there is a failsafe to avoid being trapped where the game would place you back to a known standing position, or simply let you jump out of the forced slide after a short time. Also one of the downsides in AHiT is the models that aren't fully rigged as well as clipping issues.
"Polish" isn't a buzzword as it's referring to actual touching up of the game after everything is working and the game is fully playable.
806900 No.13735396
>>13735148
>Bring up price as an argument then backslide when someone brings up price as a counterargument
Ebin.
f8414c No.13735494
>>13734534
Oink oink motherfucker
b81a30 No.13735537
>>13734735
alright, shit after watching >>13734968 I'll retract most of my statements
but the depth still revolves entirely around hat throw into dive
where A Hat in Time gives you more options to work with, and doesn't feel as stiff with air controls
f8414c No.13735552
>>13735043
>The left Is more racist than the right
Sign me THE FUCK up!
6d67f7 No.13735568
>>13735552
We're equally racist. The left are just ashamed of it.
0a9895 No.13735743
>>13735568
Nah, the left just thinks faggotry is an ethnicity, so they tout their own form of not!racism louder than the right. It's "shame" under false pretenses.
bfde89 No.13735748
>>13734981
You can fucking use the search bar, too.
c9d22c No.13735911
I think a better question would be could A Hat in Time compliment the release of Super Mario Odyssey? By this I mean if you want to try a good not-Mario 3D platformer later.
bdea37 No.13735938
>>13735748
Doesn't matter if what I'm searching for doesn't exist.
de9612 No.13736384
>>13735568
Most of the right isn't racist anon. Most conservatives would hate Natsacks.
a96cdd No.13736519
>>13729990
While I've enjoyed AHIT's charm, general style, and gameplay more, Mario Odyssey simply has so much more content to offer while still being bright, fun, cheery, etc.
I still prefer A Hat In Time. But objectively speaking, they can't compare since Gears for Breakfast didn't have even close to the amount of money Nintendo did to put into a game.
I really hope we see something similiar to AHIT from Gears For Breakfast again though. AHIT was great, and i'm still playing it on and off whenever steam workshop makers put out new stuff.
b886e7 No.13736545
>>13729990
>Can A Hat in Time compete with Mario Odyssey, or does it fall completely short in comparison?
Doesn't even compare and I've never even played SMO.
AHIT is a very basic game. Though fun even in spite of its total lack of challenge, it's produced on an indie budget in comparison to the monetary resources available at Nintendo. Just look at the transitions between 3D and 2D as you play a side-scroller version of Mario in 2D ON A FUCKING WALL WITHIN A 3D-RENDERED WORLD. The engineering required to pull off that feat would require the highest-paid developers, something that couldn't be remotely achieved by an indie game like AHIT, and that's just a single example.
Pic unrelated. Just a bunch of jew bitches. Move along. Nothing to see here.
7df1d3 No.13737790
>>13730085
>hat-centric platformers released within the same short window of time
its such an amusing coincidence.
1a15bc No.13737803
Why compete? I like having multiple 3D platformers.
7df1d3 No.13737854
>>13737803
its a nice opportunity to catch my breath and actually enjoy video games again for a while. almost puts a spark in my heart. i wonder what other decent things will happen.
93fa20 No.13738009
>>13735552
>>13735568
>racism
>real
Please appreciate the judeochristian values as well!
Bet you also think fascism is an evil menace because Stalin said so on VII ComInt meetup