3b7ab3 No.13720239
Soku General Edition
Last thread is at page 14. Discuss 2hus, 2hu games and shitpost to your heart's content. Secondaries should definitely watch out for bullying.
>newhu download
https://mega.nz/#!Dt91QDDa!w7dlOkuBP8tYwRfI3clq3wvf3v7I3DLDUneUhOUTEOY
>IRC
#2hu8ch on rizon
>related boards
>>>/2hu/
secondary board
>>>/thg/
primary board
>>>/jp/
stay out of /jp/
60ccda No.13720250
3b7ab3 No.13720254
Soku host up - 94.188.40.99:10800
f7a236 No.13720257
Gotta find my controller and I'll be up for a game or two.
c0a2a1 No.13720313
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I'm here for cheesy 2hu eurobeats and there's nothing you nerds can do about it.
3b7ab3 No.13720523
GGs, whoever that was. Host down for the day, have some stuff to do.
please block/graze more
f7a236 No.13720525
>>13720523
Well that was fun, haven't played in a good six months so I got no clue on what does what. Anyway GG
c0a2a1 No.13720863
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>>13720342
Not a bad awoo.
⑨out of strongest baka.
9a2316 No.13723939
Does anyone know of any good recent toho albums?
7fa0ba No.13724249
>Autumn is comfiest season
>Aki Sisters are comfiest twowhos
Is there a relation? And why is arinu so fucking good?
80428d No.13724324
Hidden Star and Antinomy are getting Steam releases along with their localization
http://archive.is/UF1rv
3b7ab3 No.13724374
>>13724324
>localization
Someone post that Nitro Carwash picture again
818ceb No.13724378
>>13724324
There is no mention about localization in the article
80428d No.13724403
>>13724378
Its going to be a worldwide release so I just assumed.
Might use a fan patch, but like I said, its still a localization.
How was Double Dealing handled?
Playism usually does decent work, but still.
http://playism-games.com/game/215/double-dealing-character
921980 No.13724419
>>13724376
Okay now never post it again
37bcbc No.13724469
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>>13720313
Have some slav.
169ed0 No.13725141
>>13724324
i would give 1 dorra for th16 worst newhu game
eabad5 No.13727389
>>13727348
>Animated nicetack
I really needed this.
7fa0ba No.13727432
>>13727389
We all do from time to time.
a667a0 No.13727641
I wonder, is anyone interested in playing RTS?
16bfc5 No.13727937
3b7ab3 No.13728110
>>13727937
soku 94.188.40.99:10800
PLAY GAME NOW
9695f8 No.13728325
>>13728237
>English language is not supported
218164 No.13728472
>>13728110
THE MUSIC JESUS CHRIST MAN
97158c No.13728607
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>>13724469
Thanks for the slav squat. Here's some HI NRG untz untz untz.
3b7ab3 No.13728640
>>13728472
Well shit I didn't notice. GGs, I guess? Git better or something.
218164 No.13728642
>>13728110
I'm going to take a shower then come back for some more, but please change the music from something set to random; that is what I was trying to do when I left a few times in a row earlier.
218164 No.13728652
>>13728640
>Git better
I'm the guy you who asked you to teach me last thread.
218164 No.13728955
Okay, I'm doing worse than when I started to so I think I'm going to go to bed. At least I feel I got better from the last time I played you
3b7ab3 No.13728984
>>13728652
Fucking, alright let's write up some tips on how to use Marisa even though I'm shit at the game compared to people on #hisouten.
First off, the basics. Marisa is an aggressive character and her win condition is to fuck with enemy with bullets and footsies until you can get them in blockstun and kill them or just combo them and kill them. Her moves have gaps in them and sometimes the enemy may dash out of blockstun without BEing at all if you fuck up your reads. This is expected, since her spellcards compensate for it along with excellent melee and C's.
Since you can link moves in this game and jump out of B/C's (a links to command a to b to c to skill to special) you can abuse that and guess what your opponent is gonna do when you're attacking - depending on block/graze you may want to use a different move. You must also do 623s and 214s reasonably well because punishes. You saw enough blockstrings/combos to hopefully not need to write them down here and that's all I can manage right now too sleep deprived send help.
>>13728955
checked, and good games.
7fa0ba No.13729549
>>13728237
>English language is not supported
I'm glad you came through for us ZUN daddy.
fb9fed No.13729572
>>13720239
I want to get into the series. Where do I start?
7fa0ba No.13729645
>>13729572
>Step. 1: buckle up
>Step 2: choose from any of these, though I suggest PCB https://moriyashrine.org/official-games/classic-era-th6-th9-5/
>Step 3: don't think too much about the plot, just enjoy the banter. There is a lot of lore that's pretty interesting to read through, but it's better to slowly digest it, in my opinion at least.
>Step 4: enjoy some fanworks to help you appreciate the characters more. I suggest going on danbooru and searching up bkub and Chen. Someone suggest more good fan stuff, because I can't recall anything specific right now.
>Step 5: don't be a fucking secondary.
271d3f No.13730298
>>13729572
>I want to get into the series
First, ignore the games. Only losers plays them. Instead check the wiki and read each games plot and background
As you do so, you might find a character you like, this is your waifu now. Go look up a playlist of her theme and listen to it while you jerk off to dōjins of her. There's likely a lot available unless you chose a newer character.
Anyways, listen to more rearranges and browse danbooru for translated stuff. Be very sure to check the fandom page of the tohowiki, the memes are the most most important part of the series. Don't be a (9), and "take it easy!1"
:^)
8987a5 No.13730770
Where are you when 2hu is literally on steam
818ceb No.13730880
>>13728237
>japanese only
Really dodged a bullet there
>>13729645
Chanta :^)
64ad4c No.13733663
7832f9 No.13733859
>>13729572
Touhou 6.
First game for Windows.
968069 No.13734802
94.188.40.99:10800 soku up
play videogames or die trying
23ecd3 No.13734879
>>13720239
>2hu
but wut if itz jus the one hu?
be81d9 No.13734954
>>13734879
The one who what?
e1d213 No.13735793
>>13734802
Are you still up?
51a783 No.13735861
>>13728237
FUCK.
>On Steam
>Western audiences find it
>Find it difficult
>"The Darksouls of shumps" IGN
>Streamers here about this because of the meme
>A tidal wave of casuals and secondaries unlike nothing before
Oh no.
I disliked current 2hu, I think it's mediocre and Zun needs to refresh and do something different when he has more creativity as EoSD remains the best soundtrack by far. I just want something with an ounce of its greatness. Instead the last song I even remember was clownpieces theme which I hated, and before that Higan Alien which was a poor remake of UN Owen.
93a107 No.13735910
>>13735861
>as EoSD remains the best soundtrack by far
It's ironic that you're bitching about Steam while your post makes you seem like a filthy secondary.
a896b7 No.13735916
>>13735861
You almost make me want that to happen, so all the hipsters will go around shitting on years and years of imageboard culture with "2hu was never good" or "I never liked 2hu".
e1d213 No.13735963
>>13735861
Am I retarded or something? I've been playing EoSD for the past two months and it's nice, but I just don't see how it could have the best soundtrack.
a66203 No.13738082
>>13735861
t. secondary EoSD pro
d47641 No.13738185
>touhou 15.5 - currently 300 people playing on steam
>mvci - currently 200 people playing on steam
1cd8df No.13738525
54e84c No.13739415
>>13735861
Touhou is already well-know by a lot of people across the web (including normalfags and "ironically weebs"). MADs, h-manga and even some 2hu memes are popular. Get over it and just play.
968069 No.13739604
soku 94.188.40.99:10800
BECOME BETTER
ACQUIRE PROFICIENCY
GIT REASONABLY WELL
e1d213 No.13739634
>>13739604
I can make it in like, half an hour. Is that alright?
968069 No.13739833
>>13739604
Good games, Remilia player. Consider getting some Counterstrikes and Coins (Iku/Komachi system cards) along with Skill Cards - you can use those at instant speed when you really need the move but can't afford to do a 623/236/etc in time. Other than that, use better footsies, don't try to take gambles when they're not worth it and try to chain moves better.
>>13739634
Of course. Host is still up.
968069 No.13739845
>>13739833
>disconnect controller
>somebody connects
>reconnect controller
>they gone already
d47641 No.13739889
i dont feel like playing at this moment
or existing
why life is so shitty? fucking demiurge
a535cf No.13739929
>>13739889
Cease posting by ceasing to exist
23ecd3 No.13740120
I see IPs posted and I'm assuming its for soku? What is it?
is it fun?
968069 No.13740130
GGs anon, hope you've decided on who to main. It also lagged a little, but it was tolerable. Server's down for now, gonna be back for more later today.
d47641 No.13740139
e1d213 No.13740152
>>13740120
It's a touhou fightan, it's pretty fun when you get into it.
968069 No.13740210
>>13740176
>entire first minute of this
T-they're shitposting, r-right? Right?
c934e6 No.13740232
>>13740210
Maybe
If you look at the title, it's japanese tournament play from 2010
They were both 1st ranked for each character at the time
It's not a shitpost, they're that terrible
968069 No.13740330
soku is back up at 94.188.40.99:10800
come get fucked up and learn from it
e1d213 No.13740503
>>13740330
GGs, I really need to learn to get out of combos.
I noticed that as the matches went on I got a lot worse. I think I might be getting overconfident and forgetting to play carefully.
968069 No.13740510
>>13740330
GGs and please start blocking on wakeup, doing footsies and jumping out of bullet moves you faget
host still up
162430 No.13740795
Alice is shit at dealing with the corner pressure
968069 No.13740798
GGs Alice player. You really need to find a way to get outta close-range pressure. Use counterstrikes, hakurei talismans and coins a little more. Host still up.
85291b No.13740869
So I'm new to Touhou and am starting off with Imperishable Night and got a few questions:
Is there a point filling the time quota besides points and getting extra continues? I've only managed to get enough time on stage 1 and hope I'm not missing an extra boss or something.
Does the second character do more damage on the Border Patrol team? I use her more on bosses since I suck at dodging.
Sometimes when I die, the death animation takes longer. What causes this? It sucks when I insta-die and have some spells left.
What's a good, easy character to pick on Soku if I'm both new to 2hu and fighting games?
Is it worth practicing against the computer? I still haven't beat one on lunatic
d47641 No.13741006
>>13740869
in IN if you do well you get one extra spellcard
you fucking play homing bullets reimu because you get canon endings :^) the slowdown when you die is to press x button to dodge and not die
c934e6 No.13741054
>>13740869
>Sometimes when i die, the death animation takes longer
That's the deathbomb timer when you are hit, it gives you a chance to hit X to bomb out of getting hit to survive, the one bonus the Border Team has in IN is that their deathbomb timer is longer than other teams and thus it's easier to survive with them.
>What's a good, easy character to pick on soku
Sakuya knife spam and good melee, Patchy versatile projectile spam, Okuu instant hit projectile spam, Yuyuko try to guess what kind of spam you'll be doing here and Suika incredible moves all around and small hitbox are easy to play.
If you want an easy melee-focused character, try Youmu since her combos are quite literally all just spamming the melee button and then hitting spellcard after the final hit but beware that her dash speed is incredibly difficult to control, specially in midair.
Don't expect them to win the games for you just because they are easy to use, read the wiki first instead.
https://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Touhou_Hisoutensoku_Wiki
85291b No.13741381
>>13741006
>>13741054
>bomb to not die
Huh yeah I noticed that happens when I bomb too late and a different spell that costs 2 comes out. Sometimes I don't get that timer when I get hit though. Is that because I don't have enough spellcards?
Also I don't know if it's intentional but god damn that part in Stage 3 when the music picks up as the boss flies in is great.
Managed to get one round off a bot in soku too by spamming Remilia's slide and Youmu's B bullets and shoryuken
Time to read that wiki and watch some videos.
d47641 No.13741550
>>13741381
why would you want to get into old obscure game
64ad4c No.13741588
>>13741550
Why are you here?
85291b No.13741592
>>13741550
I dunno, maybe fuck around with other anons. I remember there were lots of soku threads back on 4/v/ years ago.
e1d213 No.13741610
>>13741550
Soku isn't even that old though.
>>13741592
Weren't touhou threads banned over there or something?
85291b No.13741622
>>13741610
I don't remember. It was before the exodus.
968069 No.13741623
94.188.40.99:10800 even more soku pls join
2df6a9 No.13741646
>>13741610
It seems like they were killed for a while, but they came back after a time. For a bit I was doing playthroughs in Soku/fangames as Meiling to promote gameplay, and people started playing Soku themselves. I never got any better. Eventually the Soku matches blew up and took over as the primary purpose for 2hu threads there. Don't know much about what happened after the five guys exodus, but I remember an announcement on the steam group about a "hiatus" for the threads.
e1d213 No.13741912
>>13741623
I see that I really need to start blocking on wake ups as well as trying to avoid cornering more. I should also probably learn to use spell cards more.
GGs
5ddd13 No.13741942
>>13741912
Always block on wake-up. There's just no avoiding it unless your wake-up is all the way across the screen, like patchy's.
e1d213 No.13742702
How would you guys rank the pre windows 2hus?
3dd2a8 No.13744639
Any net games that play fine with a slow connection?
>>13742702
Pc98 Yuuka best 98
Mima can suck dick
e1d213 No.13744888
What other 2hus do you think ZUN will put on steam?
Do you think he'll ever put a mainseries game on consoles?
80cb8a No.13745012
>>13744639
i played soku here using hotspot from my phone and was fine
however you need some better? net to play pofv
3dd2a8 No.13745038
>>13745012
I get poor cell signal during the day
58457a No.13745190
>>13744888
All of them.
No way.
e1d213 No.13745246
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>>13745091
Why is Clowpiece singing So What?
>>13745190
I'd buy a compilation pack of them if released honestly. Even if it meant using Steam.
58457a No.13745392
>>13745246
Because she can.
I would buy it too.
I heard some rumor that ZUN lost source codes for pre-windows games sometime time ago. Is it true?
80cb8a No.13745592
>>13745392
all newhu games are reskin of UFO what do you think
e1d213 No.13745659
85291b No.13745660
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>>13745091
Well that's another album to download. Holy fug it's only been a day and I already downloaded 20gigs of Touhou music. How deep is this hole?
e28849 No.13745678
>>13745660
Its the Mariana Trench
e1d213 No.13746825
>>13745660
Does anyone have any instrumental remixes?
e1d213 No.13746830
>>13746825
Also what's the name of this?
3dd2a8 No.13747093
968069 No.13747715
94.188.40.99:10800 soku
please get better anon-san!
008dd1 No.13747876
>>13745660
>How deep is this hole?
Like 2tb.
b9425f No.13747887
>>13747876
Isn't that for the lossless ones?
968069 No.13747987
the game crashed, rehosting in a bit
968069 No.13748086
GGs Meiling, sorry to quit so early. You're getting the footsies down, keep at it. Check the wiki for Meiling's basic combos and try to practice them if you can!
5ddd13 No.13748325
85be92 No.13748375
What's your favourite spell card anon?
5ddd13 No.13748380
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Border between wave and particle.
It's fun
36bf2d No.13750590
>>13748086
>footsies in anime airdash game
wew lad
e1d213 No.13750726
>>13744639
After further research, I've come to a different conclusion.
e1d213 No.13750728
85291b No.13751059
>>13747887
>>13747876
Yeah I've seen that monster on nyaa.
Considering buying a new HDD for it
93f6b7 No.13754531
Tfw there will be no Total War Touhou.
There is Super Touhou Wars, Age of Touhou, Touhou Ambition, Touhou of Might and Magic, but no goddamn Total War Touhou?
e1d213 No.13754570
So what exactly was so good about Soku that the other fightans are completely ignored?
5ddd13 No.13754638
>>13754570
No mandetory aerial stuff.
Spellcard system lets you customize a bit more.
More characters, some with specific playstyles rather than the almost homogenous playstyle ULiL and HM have.
968069 No.13760787
bump, please don't fall off the board
5ddd13 No.13761107
e1d213 No.13761697
>Go back to try and actually beat the retro tewhews
>About to 1cc Lotus Land
>Yuuka who I didn't know was in this pulls out giant fuck you laser out of nowhere
52236f No.13765494
>>13761697
what a story mark
5ddd13 No.13765675
someone host soku so they can kick my dumb weeaboo ass
133443 No.13765753
>>13761697
Master Spark.
The same laser that Marisa has.
da923e No.13766116
>>13765675
alright fuck you and sorry for being late
94.188.40.99:10800 soku up
5ddd13 No.13766732
>>13766116
good fokkin' games thanks for deciding not to body me with marisa
da923e No.13766752
>>13766116
GGs, sorry for not appearing more often, others just don't want to host it seems. Don't rely too much on your 421's, it's not healthy.
5ddd13 No.13766757
>>13766752
You can't tell me what to doooo
c934e6 No.13772787
Bampu
Does anyone wanna play vidya games? I can host
>soku
>pofv
>boushuen/AoE+ clone
<meddlesome magician 2
>doom
Just ask if you want vidya
54e84c No.13772839
>>13772787
>someone recommended me boushuen
>didn't play RTS for ages
>got hooked
t-thanks, i guess
c934e6 No.13772857
>>13772839
Do you have boushuen+ 2.18? It's the latest version for it, sadly it's not translated but has the most support for netplay, unlike the english translated version of 1.00 that tends to disable your ability to type or copypaste an IP in the multiplayer menu.
If you don't, here's a link:
https://public.wishful.cc/touhou_threads/%E8%9F%92%E9%85%92%E5%AE%B4%EF%BC%8B%202.18.7z
54e84c No.13772887
>>13772857
Thanks but can I netplay with the 1.00? I'm actually lost without translation. I've to practice, anyway.
c934e6 No.13773004
>>13772887
I've yet to learn how to moonrunes but i can play the game just fine. Just gotta learn how much resources it takes to age up and you're set, can standup pretty damn nicely against Eientei players despite only playing AoEmpires2 semi-regulary. *Just don't let them get to imperial age by attacking with books on castle and you're fine
ca4f30 No.13774024
Why does th16 feel so easy? I played on Normal and the gaps in the patterns made it feel like easy, so I bumped it up to Hard and it felt like normal. What gives?
4f6cef No.13776062
I want to fug Yuukarin, Mokotan, and Keine.
b60415 No.13777138
>>13774024
you cant make 16 games in row and all of them be good
4f6cef No.13777491
>>13777138
You can't make 16 games and not learn from the previous ones
5ebbaa No.13777509
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Why is Reimu's armpits so perfect.
b60415 No.13777574
>>13777491
yeah because 16 is the first bad one
2d29c1 No.13792289
>go to check up on how the touhou puppet dance performance shard of dreams patch is coming along
>it's fucking dead
I shouldn't be surprised, it feels like english patches never happen anymore.
dcd4b6 No.13792449
>>13792289
Reasons for this:
>Constant in-fighting
>Debates
>the loss of team members from drama
Damn.
2d29c1 No.13792621
>>13792449
Seems like one of the usual reasons these things break up. This was one of the last english patches i was looking forward too as well. At this rate i'm gonna have to learn moon if i wanna keep up with 2hu as it feels like hardly anything gets translated anymore.
bdbae5 No.13794310
>>13792289
the interface got translated why would i care about non canon story
f05147 No.13796863
>>13794310
Because it's fun.
Also some people would like to know where to go next ingame without using wikia.
fa614c No.13804103
>ZUN confirms older Touhou games may reach Steam depending on how well Hidden Star in Four Seasons sells, as per Gamespark interview at Digi Game Expo 2017
http://archive.fo/JM5ng
http://archive.fo/qWKX7
Also the Steam demo for HSiFS is up in case anyone gives a shit.
94d1b2 No.13804215
>>13804103
Isn't it just the same version 0.00000000000001a we have had since May?
c441a7 No.13804304
OFFICIAL POFV POWER RANKINGS pending approval/changes
S Rank: Shikieki, Komachi, Aya, Medicine
A Rank: Marisa, Sakuya, Reimu, Yuuka
B Rank: Youmu, Lyrica, Cirno, Mystia, Lunasa
C Rank: Merlin, Reisen, Tewi
fdf612 No.13804346
>>13804304
>Yuuka
>Not S Rank
Fairy pls.
fa614c No.13804357
>>13804215
Probably. Never got around to playing the original demo, honestly.
de7511 No.13804396
>>13804346
Not in multiplayer, she really isn't.
Her lvl2 and lvl3 spells are underwhelming and easy to deal with by grazing and her boss patterns are some of the easiest in the game, the only thing holding her up that high is the superb EX flower spam, which can still be dodged by anyone that knows where the hitboxes are located
c441a7 No.13804444
>>13804304
After much deliberation with superplayers and shitters alike, I have the
FINAL LIST
S Rank: Marisa, Reimu
A Rank: Shikieki, Komachi, Youmu
B Rank: Medicine, Lyrica
C Rank: Cirno, Mystia, Lunasa, Sakuya, Yuuka, Reisen
=D Rank: Merlin, Tewi, Aya==
fa614c No.13804467
>>13804444
>fucked up the last redtext
You don't deserve those quads.
de7511 No.13804477
>>13804444
Pretty good list all around, but holy shit proofread your shit beforehand.
c441a7 No.13804516
>>13804467
>>13804477
typos add character nerds
fa614c No.13804547
>>13804516
Proofreading adds more character, faggot.
c441a7 No.13804562
>>13804547
Who are you italicizing?
5ddd13 No.13804573
e1d213 No.13808060
>>13807959
Need your help fairies.
8d91f6 No.13809131
>>13804304
>povf
lag lag warning lag lilly appeared
remember to keep mashing shoot
d814c7 No.13809615
>>13809591
F L E E N S T O N E S ? ! ?
fa614c No.13814083
fa216b No.13814305
>>13814083
And comments are full of cancer.
e1d213 No.13814354
>>13814305
I don't see what the prob-
fa216b No.13815228
>>13814354
Heh.
But try to read top comments, before you speak about them.
>Touhou compared to Cancertale and Dark Souls few times.
>Muh achievements
>One butthurt chinese gave red score for it not having mandarin translation.
>Some waifufags were there and also gave red scores for not having their waifus as playable characters.
These people are just retarded.
e1d213 No.13815389
>>13815228
protip; these people are merely pretending
fa216b No.13815492
>>13815389
I am not completely sure about it, anon.
Poe's law hits me very often recently.
03af08 No.13815625
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>>13815492
Touhou community as a whole is extremely autistic, to such an extend that it rivals even Sonic. But for whatever reason it manages not to get cancerous like FNaF or Undertale.
Tumblr and the likes do try their best to latch themselves onto it see around 14:20 in embed, I'm too lazy to webm it but they just sink down without getting much attention. Those in the steam community appear to be primarily /jp/ types.
fa216b No.13815745
>>13815625
I can tell why.
They just suck at video games.
Look at any SJWs, they are unable to play video games and get trashed by them in process.
That's why they will be secondaries at best.
Not that I am much better at touhou than them.
I still didn't managed to get any 1cc on normal. I completed two of them on normal though. Touhou 7 and 8.
fa614c No.13815809
>>13815745
>spoiler
If it makes you feel any better, I'm trying to stop being a secondary, and I'm also not having any better luck. Then again I had the infinite wisdom to start out by playing on Lunatic instead of Hard or Normal.
55c91a No.13815824
>>13815625
> But for whatever reason it manages not to get cancerous
Come on anon
94d1b2 No.13815842
>>13815228
Do you not understand the concept of a joke?
e70403 No.13815881
>>13815824
For what it's worth, I've been in the fandom for a year and a half and it's definitely one of the better bases out there. Secondaries aren't really in so they don't really count.
178ba5 No.13815911
>>13815809
>>13815809
If you dont have experience with STGs you should play normal, since its more casual and you can gradually learn some of the pattern types that get more elaborate as you go on.
For example the nudge patterns where they use homing shots and you just tap to dodge.
I managed to 1cc Eosd on normal, IN on hard and extra, and nothing else
da923e No.13815968
Replaying LoT2 for the second time, postgame sure is hard to do on the recommended level. Here's a screenshot of my party - there's tons of synergies and Kogasa as a tank is straight-up broken, but since the only effective DEF debuffer is Iku (Reisen helps, but not by much) it's really painful if she dies.
45ea47 No.13816050
>>13815968
I asked this on >>>/thg/ but they're dead, is there any reason to finish LoT1? I got to the second floor and kind of stopped.
da923e No.13816110
>>13816050
The endgame there is sort of decent, but the absence of the HP/ATB bar count really ruins it. On top of that, according to wiki, they've patched out an entire EVA stat, which allowed you to dodge attacks. Stick to the second one, it has skills and more ways to do stupidly overpowered shit against stupidly overpowered sets of enemies or bosses.
582233 No.13817113
>>13730880
>Really dodged a bullet there
ha
a0072b No.13817132
>>13815968
>No Hina
I laugh at you.
582233 No.13817167
>>13815968
where are nitros hit points?
da923e No.13817317
>>13817132
>wanting to fuck up your entire front row with debuffs, even if you can resist them
ehhehhhh
>>13817167
In the recycle bin along with all of her survivability, she's a Gambler with a +2 MP recovery item and Cooling Down, which enables you to do crazy stuff like putting a -50% DEF debuff (with Heavy if you can manage it), buffing up Nitro Carwash, blowing her load, switching her out, switching her back in when there's a chance, concentrating to recover 36 mana, switching out again, repeat. You can even delay her turn if there's a need to with her self-buff.
85291b No.13817359
Does it count as a 1cc if I set initial lives to 5 (default is 3), beat everything without a continue, then die to every one of Kaguya's Last Spells but still get good ending?
a0072b No.13817363
>>13817317
>Not accommodating your party around Hina for the ultimate goodlyness she brings in instant -50% debuffs (and +50% for herself) on all stats with a single spell
>Not utilizing 2hus that turn debuffs into buffs for infinite gains every turn
>Using inferior tanks
Not only are you wasting Parsee's offensive potential, but you're making every single boss harder by not keeping their stats dumpstered with an incredibly solid wall that also outputs decent damage, is fast as lightning, self-sustainable (with the right subclass) and props up the others.
Debuffs are love. Hina is life. Best 2hu in that entire game.
fb58d4 No.13817403
>>13815968
Any idea when LoT2: plus disk is getting an english patch?
da923e No.13817422
>>13817363
>arguing for utilizing a 2hu whose gimmick is reducing buffs on your entire team when you're supposed to beat something that could likely one-shot your weaker members without defensive buffs
>not just using Keine/Reimu/Sanae to buff up and Iku/Reisen/Parsee/Kogasa to weaken with their specific debuffs
Hina/Hexer got nerfed, and with it all hopes and dreams for Hina to work. Parsee got a Plus Disk skill that gives her 30% stat increase if anyone's debuffed, and that anyone is likely gonna be the boss. I'll give you this much though - with the right front row composition and her skill, Biorhythm puts a good Mag/Spd debuff on her, but Discarder is just a better Dark MND-targeting nuke because it pierces MND with Reisen's skill, gives all debuffs, ignores some debuff resistance and has great delay and on top of that, Reisen has great speed and a ridiculous self-buff.
>>13817403
There is one from shrinemaiden forums, but it is incomplete. Some dialogue's not translated, but item descriptions and stuff is translated enough to be playable. If you don't have LoT2 installed, you can find it off the internet, but here are links to LoT2plus and the english patch:
https://public.wishful.cc/touhou_threads/LoT2/Labyrinth%20of%20Touhou%202%20Plus%20Disk.zip
https://public.wishful.cc/touhou_threads/LoT2/LoT2%20plus%20translation%20patch.rar
a0072b No.13817523
>>13817422
>you're supposed to beat something that could likely one-shot your weaker members without defensive buffs
>t. the guy running around with 2hus at 1.5k health at level 130 (good luck buffing them to the point they don't get one-shot wwww)
>Not just using 2hus that treat debuffs as buffs while simultaneously reducing Biorhythm negatives.
>Wasting slots on useless fucks like Reimu/Keine/Sanae when Hina fulfills their role as buffer but 5 times better while providing more utility.
Unless there's some bullshit happening in the plus disk that I am unaware of, Hina/Hexer is still great shit. Even at 1/3 effectiveness, that's still enough to keep the tank fueled, albeit not nigh-permanently at 0 upkeep. Even without it, Hina is still a monster on the battlefield with very well-balanced defensive stats and middling offense, all backed up by permanent +50% in all stats. I am utterly convinced only brainlets don't use her.
Also, no matter the new skill, unless they removed/changed Ability to manipulate jealousy, you're still wasting Parsee's offensive potential. You'll never ever know the glorious feel of having 10+ stacks of that on at once and assblasting a boss with large box for 9999999999999999999999999 damage.
I should probably boot up the plus disk; I'd hate to look dumb if I'm speaking out my ass since it might have tweaked balance heavily, but I last played the game through not even a full year ago. It's too soon.
fb58d4 No.13817543
>>13817422
Groovy, thanks.
da923e No.13817573
>>13817523
>t. the guy running around with 2hus at 1.5k health at level 130 (good luck buffing them to the point they don't get one-shot wwww)
Are you an idiot? She's not supposed to get hit, at all - you swap her in when the boss's timebar is around 4k if he's fast or 6k if he's slow, you do damage and you quickly swap her out so that she won't get one-shot. Suwako is supposed to be the same thing, but right now she's lacking in the stat department - no ATK/MAG gems will do that to you. More importantly, are you telling me that you've never even considered switch fuckery to be the focus of the game and just pumped stats until you've won?
>Wasting slots on useless fucks like Reimu/Keine/Sanae when Hina fulfills their role as buffer but 5 times better while providing more utility.
>+67 DEF/MND partybuff and all-target party heal that buffs for +20 DEF/MND is useless
>+41 ATK/MAG or DEF/MND partybuff is useless (the same character has a PD skill that puts anybody she switches into the front line at 9999 ATB)
>+49 in all stats (including speed) along with a heal that REMOVES DEBUFFS is useless
are you a braindead monkey or something those are all great
>Also, no matter the new skill, unless they removed/changed Ability to manipulate jealousy, you're still wasting Parsee's offensive potential. You'll never ever know the glorious feel of having 10+ stacks of that on at once and assblasting a boss with large box for 9999999999999999999999999 damage.
Wiki says it's only 5% per debuffed actor, meaning if you debuff one boss into oblivion it's still only gonna be 5%. And at BEST, if all of your front line has debuffs with boss debuffed, it's still only a 25% increase and you rarely get a say in where the debuffs go, meaning that if by chance your Hina puts an attack debuff on Parsee (not likely with her debuff resist) you're outta damage. Plus Disk skill puts the buff to 30% if anybody is debuffed, making this irrelevant.
a0072b No.13817647
>>13817573
>Are you an idiot?
No, that'd be you. That's exactly why I quoted it, since you're >implying that a "weaker character" can't get by without buffs or they'll be oneshot. Which is a fucking retarded suggestion, since they're going to get one-shot no matter what you do. Thus, it's a nonsensical and outright idiotic argument against not using Hina. Step it up.
>+67 DEF/MND partybuff and all-target party heal that buffs for +20 DEF/MND is useless
>+41 ATK/MAG or DEF/MND partybuff is useless (the same character has a PD skill that puts anybody she switches into the front line at 9999 ATB)
>+49 in all stats (including speed) along with a heal that REMOVES DEBUFFS is useless
<Or -(but really a +)20-50% on every stat that actually matters for [character] with a single skill usage, that also simultaneously dumpsters the bosses stats and buffs Parsee and Hina to godlike levels. All for low mp cost.
Boy what a choice. The only thing it's really missing is a heal, but you can't have it all sometimes.
>Wiki says it's only 5% per debuffed actor, meaning if you debuff one boss into oblivion it's still only gonna be 5%. And at BEST, if all of your front line has debuffs with boss debuffed, it's still only a 25%
>He thinks you only debuff the frontline with a Hina party
Laughter.
You can have up to 12 stacks, niggy. That's 60%, on top of whatever buffs you apply to Parsee (since it's essentially impossible for her to actually be debuffed.) It's good stuff especially when you combine it with Gambler, but as you said it's all moot since those fuckers casualized/nerfed the skill. Probably because low energy dumbasses couldn't use it properly.
da923e No.13817771
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13817647
>No, that'd be you. That's exactly why I quoted it, since you're >implying that a "weaker character" can't get by without buffs or they'll be oneshot. Which is a fucking retarded suggestion, since they're going to get one-shot no matter what you do. Thus, it's a nonsensical and outright idiotic argument against not using Hina. Step it up.
Fine, an example. Azure Giant's Shadow. At the start of the battle, it casts a 100% buff on all of it's stats and starts wrecking your frontline. Without 100% buffs, the main tank (Tenshi) will not survive at the recommended level, assuming you didn't overlevel/spent too much library points/got plus disk gear. She gets one-shot by a single-target attack if she doesn't manage to dispel the ATK buff with Sword of Hisou if she does not have enough DEF buffs. Some bosses get better attacks at certain HP thresholds, some bosses have ridiculous single-target attacks (that almost never hit third/fourth slot units) and mild multi-target ones etc, etc. Point is, "no matter what you do" is casual talk, my friend.
><Or -(but really a +)20-50% on every stat that actually matters for [character] with a single skill usage, that also simultaneously dumpsters the bosses stats and buffs Parsee and Hina to godlike levels. All for low mp cost.
Yeah, and when you run into bosses with specific debuff resists you get to have FUN. And not the fun where you hit them for a million damage, most likely - they just body you since debuff rates are too low, because you didn't buff Parsee's attack/speed up to ~70% or put Heavy on it and because you've debuffed almost your entire fucking backrow (Parsee is near-immune to debuffs, most bosses are 1 character, 13 - 1 = 12) to get one character a +60% buff. That's fucking retarded and you're just better off raising Flandre, Nitori or other one-shot-fuck-off-the-front-line nukers. You do debuff their speed to oblivion if you keep spamming it, but you either have MAG or SPD in post-game and if you can't get Hina's nuke out why bother when you can just use Reisen with her MND pierce instead.
>You can have up to 12 stacks, niggy. That's 60%, on top of whatever buffs you apply to Parsee (since it's essentially impossible for her to actually be debuffed.) It's good stuff especially when you combine it with Gambler, but as you said it's all moot since those fuckers casualized/nerfed the skill. Probably because low energy dumbasses couldn't use it properly.
This is a video of Hina soloing a boss with the Hexer Conversion skill. Can you notice what's wrong with Hina there?
Hina is fucking slow. She's really, really, really fucking slow and with the nerfed Hexer's conversion she needs to be switched in and out to do damage. While that's going on you have to buff other characters's attack somehow so they could do more damage, meaning you get stuck with a frontline full of different characters that get different debuffs and fuck you up mildly or really fucking badly depending on how good their debuff resistance is. Going through all that just for a slightly better dark MND nuke and a 60% stat boost that you can get with buffs (Sanae puts any character at 40% all stats with one spell) when RNG can fuck you up is stupid. And if you go for pure damage output, Nitori puts Parsee out of commission with her Maintenance skill. You don't even have to set up anything, just put ATK-based equipment in there, switch her in, do damage, switch her out before she gets hit.
In short, anon, play the game without her, she's a gimmick character that used to be broken, but now she's on the lower side of decent because self-debuffs are just bad. And putting Gambler on Parsee is very fucking stupid since you'd be putting to waste her great mind stat, plus she has shit speed to do it anyhow.
a0072b No.13817943
>>13817771
>Point is, "no matter what you do" is casual talk, my friend.
>Somewhere in this rambling bullshit, "weaker characters" became "Tenko the literal walking shield"
Are you trying to piss me off you mega ultra giga faggot turbo supreme?
>Yeah, and when you run into bosses with specific debuff resists you get to have FUN.
>That's fucking retarded and you're just better off raising Flandre, Nitori or other one-shot-fuck-off-the-front-line nukers. You do debuff their speed to oblivion if you keep spamming it, but you either have MAG or SPD in post-game and if you can't get Hina's nuke out why bother when you can just use Reisen with her MND pierce instead.
>Implying Hina can't debuff anyone and anything
>Implying I put all my eggs in the Parsee basket
You're missing the point on multiple fronts. Hina isn't there to do damage. She's on tank/debuff/buff/switch duty. She's low upkeep and self-sustaining (at least, apparently, until plus disk). I don't understand why you have this moronic idea in your head that she needs to put out the DPS. Do you rely on Tenko to put on the beatdown as well? All of Hina's damage is a mere bonus to everything else she brings, courtesy of a pretty good stat spread.
Furthermore, most 2hu she debuffs benefit from it, and/or the negatives are so negligible or manageable as to be ignored. Slamming Youmu, for instance, with every possible debuff isn't going to do anything but positively benefit her. Nobody gives a shit if her MND/MAG/DEF gets debuffed, since those are her shit stats and don't do anything for her as is with the arguable exception of DEF, while her ATK actually gets buffed. The only thing that universally hurts is every hit to speed, but you can easily address that. This applies to most characters that synergize with Hina, and it all balances out, especially when you consider how trashed the bosses stats are for this tradeoff. It's well worth it.
I don't have anything to say in defense of Hina's speed stat though. It's obviously not the best, but I think you're selling it short. Do keep in mind that her stats are literally near-permanently +50% every single battle. That goes a long way and makes her deceptively fast.
I will never give up on Hina. Every time this game is mentioned, I will endlessly sing her praises. No matter the nerfs, as long as her core gameplay mechanic of debuffs->buffs persists, then she will always be number 1 in my heart. I'll simply make it work because it's too fun. Also fuck you Parsee with Gambler is pretty good.
10c2db No.13817994
Is there anything in any of the games for going pure pacifist and beating them by surviving all attacks until time runs out?
582233 No.13817997
>>13817994
i want to win by hugging and headpatting
10c2db No.13818013
>>13817997
2hus are not for lewd.
ea2343 No.13818029
>>13817994
Try impossible spell card (14.3)
1da51a No.13818037
>>13818013
Which toho is the town bicycle?
Other than Sanae, of course.
da923e No.13818514
>>13817943
>Are you trying to piss me off you mega ultra giga faggot turbo supreme?
The point is that even Tenko, whose whole purpose is to tank hits, dies from this bullshit. You really, really can't spare stats in this game when it comes to bonus content.
>You're missing the point on multiple fronts. Hina isn't there to do damage. She's on tank/debuff/buff/switch duty. She's low upkeep and self-sustaining (at least, apparently, until plus disk). I don't understand why you have this moronic idea in your head that she needs to put out the DPS. Do you rely on Tenko to put on the beatdown as well? All of Hina's damage is a mere bonus to everything else she brings, courtesy of a pretty good stat spread.
That's a game about buffing the fuck out of your team and debuffing the fuck out of their team is my point. You put massive defense, attack and preferably speed buffs on your entire team alongside trying to fuck up enemy with debuffs and maintaining them while hitting your hardest. That's the whole reason why Herbalist is a thing, if you have 40% all buffs on you it's a 20% buff in all stats at 70% delay. Hina does the debuff job really well, but really fucks up the buff plan if you aren't autistic with debuff resistances. You absolutely cannot affort to fuck up your buff plan.
>Furthermore, most 2hu she debuffs benefit from it, and/or the negatives are so negligible or manageable as to be ignored. Slamming Youmu, for instance, with every possible debuff isn't going to do anything but positively benefit her. Nobody gives a shit if her MND/MAG/DEF gets debuffed, since those are her shit stats and don't do anything for her as is with the arguable exception of DEF, while her ATK actually gets buffed. The only thing that universally hurts is every hit to speed, but you can easily address that. This applies to most characters that synergize with Hina, and it all balances out, especially when you consider how trashed the bosses stats are for this tradeoff. It's well worth it.
Are you saying that Youmu's DEF/MND are so shit that she's not even a stay-in that can take a hit and not die? Her stats are excellent if you patch up her MND stat ASAP. You're literally selling her short because muh ATK and you can bring that up to 40% with one spell from Sanae alongside with her every other stat. She's gonna fucking die if you debuff her defensive stats and you are defending that.
It sounds like you don't get what this game is about. Go do Plus Disk content with your party at the recommended level, you'll see.
f261d9 No.13819048
>>13817359
Number of starting lives doesn't matter.
If you used continue, no.
If you didn't, yes.
e7ce70 No.13819965
>>13818514
>Hina does the debuff job really well, but really fucks up the buff plan if you aren't autistic with debuff resistances. You absolutely cannot affort to fuck up your buff plan.
>debuff resistance wwwww
Or you can just formulate your party around it, compensating for the minor negatives. With the right 2hus, debuffs are either entirely ignored, or they are positives.
>Are you saying that Youmu's DEF/MND are so shit that she's not even a stay-in that can take a hit and not die? (…) She's gonna fucking die if you debuff her defensive stats and you are defending that.
Youmu was just an example, but do you not understand net positive? If I debuff all the bosses stats by 50% on a near-permanent basis with Hina, and [other 2hu] gets hit by a -10% in their dumpster stat every here and there, then I'm winning. Besides, you act like Hina's sheer presence means it's utterly impossible to sustain regular buffs. It's not.
I think you're just too rigid in thought. There are other ways to play the game besides the most boring. Though you're right that I need to play the Plus Disk. I could be entirely speaking out of my ass if they dumpstered Hina. Not that it'd persuade me from making it work.
91d165 No.13822313
Why won't you spergs play video game?
58d08e No.13822592
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>>13822313
They take time to git gud.
I want instant gratification and qt girls, pic related.
a9b4f9 No.13822610
>>13822592
I've got your instant gratification right her - hold still.
10c2db No.13823083
>>13818029
Isn't that nothing but pacifist survival? I meant more like pacifist in the games where you're normally expected to be shooting.
10c2db No.13823089
>>13819048
>Number of starting lives doesn't matter.
Nigger. I may suck at the games, but I will never use continues or more than default starting lives.
c441a7 No.13823150
>>13823089
Continues/extra lives are not for bragging rights when you finish the game using them, they are for reaching places where you wouldn't normally be able to go and practice so by the time you get there with the default resources you'll be able to succeed.
10c2db No.13823235
>>13823150
>they are for reaching places where you wouldn't normally be able to go and practice so by the time you get there with the default resources you'll be able to succeed.
But that's not what we're talking about.
>>13817359
>Does it count as a 1cc if I set initial lives to 5
By raising the starting lives, you're essentially making it (1+2/3)cc
7cb9bf No.13827958
>>13823235
>By raising the starting lives, you're essentially making it (1+2/3)cc
What? No you don't.
e37b39 No.13828215
>>13827958
The reasoning is that by starting with more lives than the default amount, it is similar to playing with more than one credit. Though, I'd extend that logic by saying it's only if you actually die more than the times, ie a single credit.
0f51da No.13831042
>>13735861
>not Subterranean Animism
Jesus fuck man
Orin and Okuu had pretty awesome themes, Parsee had the best one, and Satori took the cake almost by herself, theres not a single bad track from it.
29d3db No.13831167
>>13735861
>higan alien
>higan
>also thinking its remake of un owen
i want to fucking punch you
b238dc No.13837926
Anyone interested in playing Touhou Doom?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/813vgo5bh9sl3qw/TouhouDoomUntitledEpisode3E.pk3?dl=1
Play Episode 2 for the 2hu themed weapons
5ddd13 No.13837955
>>13740210
Typhoon is a shit.
54e84c No.13838541
f97c3b No.13838681
Is Touhou 16 a good place to start with the series? I played 6 and 7 ages ago and i like shoot em ups but i never really beat one of the games. Since i heard 16 is one of the easier games in the series is it a good place to start?
6461ee No.13838701
>>13838681
Easiest game in the series is probably Mountain of Bombs Faith even without Marisa's broken mode and Imperishable Night with Bombrder Team. Any game is fine, really, people just recommend going chronologically for completionist and simplicity's sake.
Though, isn't it much better to start up in a deliberately harder setting so you can get up to speed a bit quicker? Assuming you've got previous experience with shmups.
54e84c No.13838786
>>13838681
4 (like 7 and 8) is one of the easiest game in the serie.
50ecb5 No.13838881
>>13720239
Why is it "2hu" when that's not how touhou is pronounced?
f97c3b No.13839043
>>13838701
Those were not bullet hells however. Stuff like Raiden, R-type and Gradius plays quiet different than a bullet hell.
f97c3b No.13839058
>>13838701
And i heard the first 5 in the main series are lacking in quality. The first game is very different from the rest of the series so starting with 1 seems bad.
6346ff No.13839165
>>13839058
>Lacking in quality
1 and 2 maybe. The retro tohos were pretty good shit, 5 and 4 could easily stand up to the latter games.
0d6626 No.13839195
>>13838681
just dont start with 15
seriously what the fuck it has no right to be so hard
46ac31 No.13839300
>>13838881
>>>/2hu/
>>13839058
This is why almost everybody recommend touhou 6 or 7.
Second reason for this is need for PC-98 emulator to play first five games.
582233 No.13849987
>>13839195
look on the bright side, if it werent so damn hard i wouldnt be that traumatized by clownpiece
582233 No.13850182
>>13735963
a lot of the earlier windows touhous have their own style but eosd stands out from the rest. maybe its not strictly better soundtrack but i find myself coming back to it more than the others for that reason.
71c784 No.13862953
>>13850182
Th06 and Th01's soundtracks have a special place in my heart because those were my first introductions to the series and schmups in general.