d7baf8 No.13719408
News concerning historical titles.
https://techraptor.net/content/an-older-total-war-game-is-going-to-receive-a-new-campaign
http://archive.is/WJuMk
>Today, Creative Assembly has released an interview, which essentially unofficially/officially announced a new campaign expansion for “one of their older games”.
>The expansion for the older Total War title is said to be the “biggest one yet”, and that Creative Assembly has been working on it for nearly a year. From what else can be gleaned from the interview, a “big free update” will also come with the expansion’s release, which is a nice if somewhat-expected surprise. Project Director Maya also notes that Creative Assembly is close to the testing stage and that nearly all of the expansion’s content has been coded in.
>Given that the interviewee notes that “there’s lots of people still playing this particular game…”, and that Maya notes that “there’s a lot more we haven’t even touch in that era yet.”
>The obvious title that sticks out is Rome II: Total War, which despite being four years old still has over seven thousand people playing it, but Medieval II: Total War is perhaps even more impressive, given that the title is over a decade old and has over three thousand people playing it. Total War games are popular, who knew?
>Besides this announcement of an impending announcement, the interview weaves around the to be announced title in the Total War Saga, which is essentially a series of games like Total War: Fall of the Samurai – games that are focused on a specific moment or series of events rather than centuries of history.
>The interview also briefly mentions the new historical Total War title, stating that the title is coming along swimmingly, with their motion capture studio being particularly active, as well as noting their satisfaction “after having researched historical city-layouts for months [and having] it all come together in the game.” Janos, the Project Director for the Historical Total War title, states that they have become more “ambitious” when it comes to motion capture and that they hope their fans will be “impressed” when they see the fruit of their efforts in-game.
49a2a5 No.13719422
Old Testament Total War mod for Rome.
Finally, can't wait!
Excited to play through the Israel and BTFO the Assyrians and prevent the Babylonian captivity from happening.
6c9a53 No.13719458
Medeival 3 Total War when
Middle Earth Total War when
Asia Total War when
Shogun 2 Total War style enhanced multiplayer with customization and progression for Warhammer Total War when
5534d4 No.13719472
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2825c0 No.13719477
>inb4 it's a new update for Medieval 2 that fucks up all mods forever on Steam
Thankfully, I have the retail version, so I'll be fine.
>>13719458
>Medeival 3 Total War when
Hopefully never, unless they decide to unfuck themselves completely and make a proper game again.
d7baf8 No.13719483
>>13719458
>Middle Earth Total War when
Why would you want something that would clearly be inferior to the Medieval 2 mod?
6c9a53 No.13719494
>>13719477
You're probably right. Medieval 2 with Stainless Steel still kicking ass. But I want to give CA a chance to redeem themselves.
>>13719483
Because muh official
0e9f45 No.13719503
>>13719477
>Medieval 3 DLC factions:
The Byzantine Empire
Denmark
Egypt
The Holy Roman Empire
Hungary
Milan
Moors
Poland
Portugal
Russia
Scotland
Sicily
The Turks
Have fun.
40dee5 No.13719523
>>13719503
Why does the Bulgarian Empire just not exist for game devs?
38e783 No.13719537
>>13719477
>fucks up all mods forever on Steam
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the goal, maybe some big ones like SS will get eventually updated but most will just fade into obscurity because the folks who did em are long gone.
Also expect them to just fuck the game up in general with retarded "balancing" and such to make it practically no fun to pad the way for a new game/dlc.
After all can't have those goys keep playing older games!
5534d4 No.13719548
>>13719523
Bulgarian detected. Be careful what you wish for, lest your country be portrayed as being full of even darker shitskins
40dee5 No.13719562
>>13719548
Well nobody will appreciate being portrayed as shitskins since we live close to shitskin and know their nature. If it happens forums would probably be in fucking flames.
bd8895 No.13719567
>>13719529
HOLY FREAKING BASED!
2825c0 No.13719582
>>13719494
>But I want to give CA a chance to redeem themselves
Every new release I hope that they have fixed the glaring issues that I have lately with the series.
And every time I am disappointed again. Wider audience was a mistake.
>>13719503
W-well, at least I'd get France.
>>13719548
There's a Med2 mod in development that focuses on South and Eastern Europe as well as Anatolia which will have all the small nations previously ignored.
I think it's called The Great Conflicts.
>>13719537
Honestly, I doubt they'd ever do something like that.
However, I did notice that companies have completely stopped showing their older games on sites.
It's funny because the earliest game that CA lists is Empire, which is over 8 years old now.
They're willing to display that shame, but not anything that came before it.
d4f45c No.13719585
>>13719477
Cant you change versions on steam?
atleast on paradox games you can do that, old updates are listed as betas
18d8e8 No.13719615
>>13719408
My money is on Shogun 2. CA likes to pretend Empire doesn't exist, Napoleon is too limited in scope. Rome 2 is too recent and a shitshow while M2 and R1, as well as the first Shogun and Medieval 1 are too old.
45efe8 No.13719621
>>13719615
Its Shogun 2 or Med2.
18d8e8 No.13719640
>>13719621
I'm hoping it's not M2 because, as others have said, that will fuck up the mods, and I will kill those fuckers if they mess up EB2 for me.
a693bd No.13719643
Total War started to suck once they released the buggy DLC ridden shit show known as Rome II, Warhammer was really the nail in the coffin. If you paid for any of this or enjoyed it you should feel embarrassed.
>pic related is the last halfway decent game they made
18d8e8 No.13719656
>>13719643
Now I'm wondering what the expansion will be about. If it's for Shogun 2 they might do a remake of the Mongol invasion from Shogun 1, if it's Medieval 2 I have no fucking idea where they'd go with it. They can't go too far back because of Attila, nor too far into ahead because of Empire. What period are they going to cover then?
38e783 No.13719667
>>13719582
>They're willing to display that shame, but not anything that came before it.
Because the ones before Empire, Rome and Medieval 2 in particular are the best in the series and can't have newer goys just buy and enjoy those.
TW-games are pretty much timeless classics for the most part.
The 1st Medieval and Shogun are quite bad looking graphically if we look at them now but Med 2 and even Rome still hold up well and it's not like the core customer-base of TW-games care much for graphics as long as they are passable.
18d8e8 No.13719680
>>13719667
>are quite bad looking graphically
I like them more than the more modern ones, especially the "boardgame" map aesthetic they had going, and the 2D sprites are all kind of neat. Shogun 1 also had features that subsequent games lacked. In no other TW game can you betray your ally mid battle IIRC.
d5cd67 No.13719702
>>13719615
I wanted to think this would be an Imjin War expansion for Shogun 2, but apparently Rome 2, Medieval 2, and even fucking Empire have more players on Steam. I liked Empire, but I didn't expect it to be on Steam's top 100 played games list, especially with the way people talk about it. Medieval 2 probably has a lot more people playing non-Steam versions, but there's no way they would go back to an older engine.
18d8e8 No.13719724
>>13719702
>I wanted to think this would be an Imjin War expansion for Shogun 2
That would be pretty fucking cool. Purging gooks and chinks in the name of Glorious Nippon would be all kinds of fun, but I can't imagine them doing it in this day and age because it would make China extremely butthurt, plus they are too fucking lazy to create a whole new faction based on China. Shogun 2 would definitely benefit from allowing you to continue the campaign after you unify Japan and assault the mainland, mostly because of the possibilities in terms of unit variety.
2825c0 No.13719739
>>13719702
>I liked Empire, but I didn't expect it to be on Steam's top 100 played games list
Screenshot or you're lying.
Despite bring flawed as fuck, Empire is still worth it, but I can't believe more than a few hundred people, if that many, would be playing it.
>>13719680
I liked Rome 1 and Med2 graphics the most.
Everything is clearly visible at all times and your units don't look like a mangled mess when they clash.
18d8e8 No.13719751
>>13719739
>and your units don't look like a mangled mess when they clash
You can blame Warscape for that and pretty much everything wrong with TW outside of AI. I wish they'd drop that fucking engine already.
79b69b No.13719771
>>13719751
Doesn't matter if the AI is garbage.
d5cd67 No.13719778
>>13719739
I didn't believe it either, but here's the current number of people playing Total War games. The second picture is the bottom of the top 100 from Steam itself.
79b69b No.13719806
>>13719778
Is warhammer 2 the exact same game as the first, only with more factions?
2825c0 No.13719823
>>13719778
>people are playing Rome 2
>it's actually the second most played TW title
>mfw
There is no hope for this series.
Good on Empire for still going.
d5cd67 No.13719836
>>13719806
I haven't played either of them, but from what I understand the two of them are set it different parts of the Warhammer world, and have completely different sets of factions. If you own both, you can play a campaign with all the factions.
ed6c41 No.13719954
Anyone who thinks this isn't just a Rome 2 expansion is building false hope. Rome 2 is the second most popular Total War game being played right now, after Warhammer 2 and before Warhammer 1. It'll probably include some sort of Legion multiplayer mode similar to Avatar Conquest. They haven't been capable of fixing basic common Medieval 2 bugs ever, so I doubt that they could update it (or anything older) if they tried. Shogun 2 is possible, I'd doubt Empire or Napoleon.
My best guess would be a Rome 2 expansion with a grand campaign that takes place either before Rome or after Christianity.
>>13719458
>Medeival 3 Total War when
Never because everyone will shit their pants about units designed to counter each other and a shit family tree and limited strategic map and then turn around and continue playing the exact same thing I just described. It's not possible to release Medieval 3.
>Shogun 2 Total War style enhanced multiplayer with customization and progression for Warhammer Total War when
Shogun 2's Avatar Conquest should have been a default inclusion in all future games, and the features need to make their way to the actual campaigns. Rome 2 almost did, but the legion system was incredibly shallow and pretty poor. Warhammer's special unit feature was just a way to push more DLC without making new units.
b23bf5 No.13719955
>>13719562
You do know that in the rest of europe people (also known as normalfags who reads ((mainsstream media))) think you're gypsies.
>>13719643
The downfall was Napeoleon Total War. Rome 2 was just their attempt of going back after a miss and make gold again, which they didn't of course.
40236c No.13720387
>>13719458
Third Age Total War already exists and is excellent. It was made by king Kong, the same guy who did stainless steel
e0f2f7 No.13720419
>>13719823
Empire can go fuck itself along with its garbage game engine that they've never stopped using.
1dc3cc No.13720536
>>13720387
It was also finished buy some guy who also did the balancing for it. So it was actually finished some time ago.
dcaef5 No.13720542
>>13719408
>old total war game
Rome Total War, Rome II or Medieval II will get expansion.
Though would be better if they workshop for Rome Total war or Medieval II
1dc3cc No.13720545
>>13719778
>goyhammer total war 2.
There was a sequel?
dcaef5 No.13720549
18d8e8 No.13720592
>>13720545
It's basically a shitty expansion pack sold as a $60 game.
0153cc No.13720679
>>13719408
Mediaval 2: African Kangdoms + mandatory realistic European diversity DLC?
04a4aa No.13720682
It'll probably be Shogun 2. It's the oldest game that still runs on the current platform (I think), but besides that, it's still a recent enough game that they'd have a market to sell an expansion to.
50409d No.13720802
>People say warhammer is a shit game because of it's jewish selling practices
I think it's bretty gud.
05afd5 No.13720841
>>13720802
Congrats, you are now a certified faggot. Please show yourself into the gas chamber.
1c89e4 No.13720889
I've seen several people suggesting Pike And Shot era.
But does it matter? Does anyone trust it to be a good game? Hasn't creative assembly proven that it can't making anything other than cash drains for fanboys?
18d8e8 No.13720914
>>13720889
>I've seen several people suggesting Pike And Shot era.
Isn't that basically what Shogun is?
>Does anyone trust it to be a good game?
It's an expansion, so long as they don't make it for Rome 2 or Empire there is little chance they can fuck it up.
1c89e4 No.13720921
>>13720914
>there is little chance they can fuck it up
You underestimate how incompetent they are.
50409d No.13720952
>>13720841
congrats you're a certified sheep. head into the liberal herd and spout about things you've never experienced. Just pirate it retard, it fixed alot of things that plagued the total war series for awhile. Like broken charges and 1v1 animations for soldiers.
38e783 No.13720957
Shame they don't try to go more indepth towards something like the New world with aztecs'n conquistadors'n shit.
Kingdoms was pretty good but still quite lacking though that was probably all the hours of Stainless Steel vs basegame.
6fd922 No.13720960
>>13720914
Shogun is fedual japan with guns in the later half unless you play Otomo who get guns right off the bat. Pike and Shot is like 1600-1700
1c89e4 No.13720965
>>13720960
I think he means in terms of gameplay.
018209 No.13720974
>>13719458
>enhanced multiplayer with customization and progression
man in the middle of an explosion saying "jesus christ".jpg
cd59f9 No.13720982
What historical scenarios does CA even have left that isn't more of the same? China, including central and south asia?
6fd922 No.13720985
>>13720982
1550-1700 Europe.
2825c0 No.13721141
>>13720985
Is there a Med2 mod for that period?
I always had an itch to play something like that.
38e783 No.13721163
>>13720982
I'd love a game centered on actual Bronze/Iron-age Yorop instead of the classical that is Rome.
6fd922 No.13721266
>>13721141
End game Med2 is kind of like that if you figure out how to micromanage pike and musketeers.
50409d No.13721319
>>13721266
>pikes and musketeers
Holy shit why didnt I think of that. Use the pikes to keep enemy models at bay and pop them with the guns. I remember the funnest game I had was when I got OP with venice and expanded east then the mongols and timurrids invaded and I had a hard time fighting them even with my entire world ending army focused on one point. Then we had a glorious bridge battle where they ended up winning because guns are shit and those organ guns with slow to reload.
8f459c No.13721395
Remember that it's supposed to be a campaign for one of their older titles, so it won't be too far away time or location wise not a game unto itself. So I don't expect Asia due to location, or Victorian pike and shot since the likely candidates are Attila or Rome 2. I'm putting my money on Attila with a glorified Medieval 3 remake.
>>13720545
There are supposed to be three in total. First one is set in the old world, second one covered Lustria, Ulthuan, and Naggarond. Tomb Kings is looking to be DLC and they stitched the two warhammer games in Mortal Empires.
6fd922 No.13721466
>>13721319
Proper pike and shot would be a Pike Square with muskets mixed in. But yeah you can kind of emulate that.
5a2a1c No.13721573
>>13721395
>Third one is going to be either Shit like Grand Cathay and Nippon or Chaos Divided
>Most likely Chaos Divided
50409d No.13721666
>>13721573
>someone designed a robot with breasts covered by a shirt
If they were going for sexy why did they make the head look like that?
1c4636 No.13721695
>>13721666
i think i got the trenchant insight on this one, oh prince of lies
50409d No.13721736
>>13721695
Is it at least made of silicon or is it just static metal?
1abcd2 No.13724349
>10000 gold recruitment cost
>almost 2000 gold upkeep cost
What the fuck
Are they made out of gold and fed diamonds or something?
>>13721141
1648 - Thirty Years of War or Eras: Total Conquest
eb8c83 No.13724387
>>13724349
>charge bonus 50
>weapon type missile
1abcd2 No.13724444
>>13724387
You forgot
>Long range missiles
>Hit Points: 9
eb8c83 No.13724553
>>13724444
Hit points are nice, but the range doesn't make up for the upkeep. without ranged weapons you'd be able to put them to far better use as hammers or suicide chargers with their >animals may run amok.
With that charge bonus they'd be excellent for wiping out engaged heavy units/generals.
1abcd2 No.13724667
>>13724553
I was joking about the long range missiles and hitpoints thing since hitpoints means shit when 90% of the enemy army consists of units which throw spears and the long range doesnt matter to me since my basic archer unit are indian longbowmen and my generals bodyguard are heavily armoured longbowmen
I hate Elephants and Chariots in TW games, due to them either being made out of glass (chariots in Rome 1 or 2) or run amok (elephants in general) and their high upkeep cost and their shit value in autoresolve
Yes their charge bonus is nice, but is completely negated when only one elephant actually charges in while the rest just walk into the fight, like its with almost any unit in Medieval 2
05699b No.13724699
>>13719724
>but I can't imagine them doing it in this day and age because it would make China extremely butthurt
Why do people keep assuming Chinese will get butthurt of a game that is set during a warlord -or war period in China? I have seen the same argument before just used by people saying CA won't make a total war game set in China because it will offend chinks yet ROTK by Koei is one of the most popular games in China and the Imjin war is one of great pride.
You ever seen Chinese historical dramas? One is set during the fall of the Ming dynasty were the Ming emperors hangs himself and ends with the Manchu occupying Beijing.
Chinks are known to romanticize shit out of every war period, even those that are seen as great tragedies. ie Manchu Conquest.
I would like to see an Imjin War for Shogun II too, mostly because it would be nice to see how much they fuck up designing the Korean and espesally the Ming armies despite the fact that there is a whole website designated to the Ming army.
18d8e8 No.13724722
>>13724699
>Why do people keep assuming Chinese will get butthurt of a game that is set during a warlord -or war period in China?
Because Japan invading them and raping their virtual ass is not going to go down well in modern China.
70724f No.13724756
>>13719643
>gold boxes
Have Shit 2 and Shitillia been gold boxed yet?
>>13721141
Besides stuff already mentioned you have India, and Homeric bronze age with heroes and epic quests and shit
b92e3a No.13724804
Anyone else tricked by the mortal empire hype and disappointed as fuck?
05699b No.13724827
>>13724722
Oh I am a idiot, you said China not Chinese. Ye, CCP and their media control committee get extremely butthurt about this kind of stuff. Games like HOI and DH is popular among Chinks but its banned in the mainland because showing ebin Tibet and Manchukuo.
On the other hand Imjin War is set in Korea and of great pride to Chinese, don't know about how the CCP would react tho, probably not positive considering it would show an Imperial Dynasty do what the republics never managed, without great losses that is.
dfa7f5 No.13724838
>>13724804
You'd find plenty in common with the folks at cuckchan.
44ad10 No.13725044
>>13724804
Still no crack for it
1a102c No.13726041
So, what mods, besides Steel Faith, should I get for warhammer2? And after the update, how is now the mortal empires mode? Or it is stillvery flawed?
5e3dae No.13726248
>>13719477
>unfuck themselves
>proper game
Fuck yourself, Warhammer 2 is good, for Rome 2 they released Emperor's Edition for free and even fixed all bugs and even apologized, Warhammer 1 is good.
b92e3a No.13726326
>>13726041
Most old world factions play out exactly the same as the first game except you can take other races cities now (without mods).
Confederation is much harder to achieve now, and you can't make anyone a vassal (possibly a bug.)
Chaos now spawns like it does in the vortex campaign, so it starts off in your lands and only goes for you.
There's also other little bugs, but basically the mode feels too unfinished and untested, and too similar to game 1 for me to bother finishing a campaign.
5e3dae No.13726492
>>13719477
>unfuck themselves
>proper game
Fuck yourself, Warhammer 2 is good, for Rome 2 they released Emperor's Edition for free and even fixed all bugs and even apologized, Warhammer 1 is good.
55914c No.13727200
>>13726492
>Rome 2 Emperor
Still couldn't fix the shit heaped upon the travesty they call an engine.
>Warhammer was good
They only managed to make a good game when they stripped out all the mechanisms that made prior TW games good? How the hell does this help them make another good classic TW game when warhammer is more like an action strategy game than the older titles?
279fa9 No.13727419
>>13719408
Calling it now, it's going to be a Total warhammer 1 campaign.
18d8e8 No.13727441
>>13727419
They said older game. It's either Rome 2 or Shogun 2, and my money is on Shogun 2.
1abcd2 No.13727604
>>13727441
I say its either going to be Rome 2 or Attila
I don´t really care which of the games it is, I just hope its going to be something interesting
18d8e8 No.13727619
>>13727604
Fuck Rome 2 and Attila. In a just world they'd do justice to Medieval 2 or Shogun 2.
9d211c No.13729432
surprised to see some minor hate towards Napoleon, that was the last time the melee system wasn't fucked up. I'd shill for a WW1 total war in the future but I'm sure I'd get yelled at for it. Shogun 2 is great but if they do an expansion they should improve the melee system and make more use of firearms.
dcaef5 No.13729463
>>13729432
if its gonna be Shogun 2 DLC, Russian-Japanese War?
9d211c No.13729500
>>13729463
I guess. it seems alright. but wasn't that a minor conflict in retrospect?
eb8c83 No.13729520
>>13729432
I couldn't enjoy Shogun 2. The building limit takes away the choice of building up your conquests or simply training more units as soon as possible and taking more land.
My opinion might be soured by the fact that I opened the case and found a goddamn sheet of paper with a steam code on it.
4df616 No.13729552
It's an Irish campaign for Attila.
d5cd67 No.13729738
>>13729500
The Russo-Japanese War was a bigger conflict than the Boshin War and Satsuma Rebellion.
>>13729552
There's the Irish thing, a new main historical game, and the mystery expansion.
43c211 No.13729749
>>13729520
SHAMEFUR DISRPAY
c34185 No.13732149
I want a full Viking total war already.
Attila and Age of Charlesmagne were pre-Viking.
c34185 No.13732151
>>13727200
>How the hell does this help them make another good classic TW game when warhammer is more like an action strategy game than the older titles?
What the fuck does this even mean?
c36502 No.13732183
>>13732149
Medieval 1 has the Viking Invasion expansion.
c34185 No.13732201
>>13732183
That was archaic though.
I want an 3D expansion centering around the Viking age.
43890e No.13734907
>>13732201
There is a Danelaw mod focused around Ragnar Lodbrok and his sons for Attila that is breddy gud.
c34185 No.13738246
>>13734907
That does look darn cool, thanks anon.
e9dba5 No.13738279
>>13734907
>no eastern slavs
>no black sea
oh well… I hope they'll expand it.
51ae62 No.13738291
I think I played every single Total War game up to Rome 2 but never finished a single one of them. Idk, it usually feels like the balance of the game gives up in mid game. Never played a modded one btw
0cdc99 No.13738299
>shits on rome 2
"A-am I one of the cool kids yet, /v/?"
d0c826 No.13738741
>>13724699
Taiping Rebellion when.
532700 No.13738769
>>13726492
>for Rome 2 they released Emperor's Edition for free and even fixed all bugs
>"we did our job, now praise us and buy our game"
It's still the same shit game with the same shit engine, except that now it's all "working as intended."
>>13738299
>"My first Total War was Shogun 2/Rome 2."
05e1ff No.13739221
>>13719823
rome 2 wasnt terrible
i play it because it isnt absolutely complete shit and the graphics are nice
05e1ff No.13739227
>>13738769
ahem ill have you know that my first total war was napoleon ;^)
532700 No.13739533
>>13739221
Just play Europa Barbarorum 2, lad.
43890e No.13742299
>>13738279
There isn't a whole lot you can do modding the map. The niggers at CA hardcoded them
8e6e50 No.13742389
>>13720387
>one guy made both the indisputably top mods for Medieval II
how can a single person be so utterly based
b2e23e No.13742415
>>13719836
Jesus, that's some next level kikery.
>Ya gotta buy both of 'em goy, if ya wants ya full campaign
85dc91 No.13742470
>>13742415
It really should have been an expansion. But I need my Warhammer fix, being the shameless junkie that I am.
2e1211 No.13742631
>>13719643
What's good/bad about it as opposed to older the older titles?
>>13719656
Could be in space. Could be Ancient China. Could be anachronistic. Could be a lot of things.
c9109c No.13742639
>>13719422
That mod already exists.
2e1211 No.13742653
>>13724349
Got a link? Can't find it.
2e1211 No.13742655
6d8bf2 No.13742672
>>13720982
three kingdoms: total war
perfect timing too, because KOEI hasn't made a decent ROTK in over a decade. could be a shogun 2 expac.
2e1211 No.13742681
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13719724
>>13724722
Holy shit that triggers me. I'd get it if we were speaking of the Meiji era, but not fucking 500 years ago. At this time I'd jizz over the Chinese. I mean, it's like choosing the Germanics over the Romans, it's retarded.
>implying such concepts of nationalism existed at that time
>implying all these things
Fuck are you a weeb? Or a nu/pol/fag? Why do you people obsess over this?
2e1211 No.13742697
>>13742681
*also
>inb4 chink
Nope :^)
2e1211 No.13742784
>>13742746
Wait, you paid for Warhammer?
698180 No.13742793
>>13742746
>giving money to CA
43890e No.13742829
>>13742746
>giving CA money
2e1211 No.13742835
>>13742829
Holy shit this is unique isn't it?
2e1211 No.13742842
>>13742835
*or did you just not change the filename and I'm a fucking faggot?
88939d No.13742856
>>13742681
Some people just wanna remove rice and you're gonna have to deal with it.
>>13742746
Hold up, you're telling me you paid for a cracked game?
43890e No.13742861
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2e1211 No.13742865
>>13742856
>rice
But the Japs are rice.
I'd conquer them all as Spain.
88939d No.13742869
>>13742865
Time to word that better, Remove Mainrander.
85dc91 No.13742870
I keep buying TW crap that I don't need. Even the blood DLC.
72812c No.13742877
>>13742870
I'm in the same boat. But I like the WaWa games so I'm not bothered by it.
I'll never buy Rome 2 or Atilla, though.
2e1211 No.13742878
>>13742861
But no timestamp proof ;_;
If it is really you, is that sword carbon steel or stainless steel?
43890e No.13742882
>>13742878
Are you really going to make me get suited up at 2 am
2e1211 No.13742892
>>13742882
No, but just post a timestamp with the wall in the back or something.
85dc91 No.13742920
>>13742877
Yeah, you're not missing much with Rome 2 or especially Attila. The only novelty Rome 2 has is being Creative Assembly's biggest blunder. Warhammer is solid, but I was a fan of both Total war and Warhammer coming so probably would have bought even if people told me it was shit.
43890e No.13742978
>>13742892
I missed the fall of Wessex thanks to this tomfoolery
2e1211 No.13742992
>>13742978
Don't worry anon I had faith in you :^)
Sword likes nice m9
43890e No.13743004
>>13742992
It's not my only one, but I told myself I must get more /fit/ before I invest in moreand plate armor.And maybe a shield
2e1211 No.13743012
>>13743004
Not hard, is it? Just copy the average training of a knight and eat what people ate 100 years ago.
43890e No.13743038
>>13743012
Hopefully someday, I dream of a full gothic suit
43890e No.13743342
A few screenies before I go to bed
0e5e9e No.13743479
>>13742978
are you the brit from KC that bought a suit of armour from some chink website and realised it looked completely munted put together?
0a4c9b No.13743963
>>13742856
my stomach is ILL
cdf753 No.13744451
>>13739533
>Just play Europa Barbarorum 2, lad
>your game is shit
>my game is the best
>but play it modded
no….
cdf753 No.13744480
>>13742920
>Yeah, you're not missing much with Rome 2 or especially Attila
not being a hoving barbarian horde and bringing down doom on everything you step foot in…
c34185 No.13744493
>>13743342
Goddamn I want Medieval 3.
97da60 No.13744495
>>13744493
>wanting modern CA to make M3
You really don't, trust me on this.
c34185 No.13744499
>>13744495
Oh shut up, Attila/Age of Charlesmagne were fucking awesome.
97da60 No.13744502
>>13744499
Niggers are not welcome here.
cdf753 No.13744505
btw, people talking over some ancient chink game, I just found this game over the chinese setting thread
oriental empire, checked out yesterday nad its fucking beautiful, set in ancient china
4x, sort of a cross over from civ and TW, it was what I dreamed off in the previous TW thread
it takes the best elements of the genre, still lacks some depth but considering its a new dev, it has tons of potential
cdf753 No.13744516
>>13744499
>Attila/Age of Charlesmagne
agree with you here, in Attila they really found the perfect balance over strategy/tactical
it was both really challenging and overwhelming mid/late game
people who neglect it are just
> muh med2… but with mods….
c34185 No.13744523
>>13744502
Then why are you here, nigger?
c34185 No.13744756
ToWaWa2 is still one of Steam best sellers with a very positive ratings.
We are winning, lads.
cdf753 No.13745300
>>13744756
well good for them that at least they might continue to make good games,
makes me less guilty for pirating all this stuff
with regards to Twawa, the first one was extremely unbalanced due to being their first time dealing with mega damage sponge units, since the engine wasn't for something like that
but seems to have improved a whole fucking lot with the second game
b09d11 No.13747821
>>13744505
>considering its a new dev, it has tons of potential
this is how i automatically know you are actually a gigantic hunk of garbage. you aren't actually a person, you are a garbage bag dialed into a computer.
ee0a04 No.13747854
>>13742299
Double dubs of truth. The modding scene is fucked three ways to sunday because of all the hardcoded limits on basically everything.
35127d No.13747974
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
anons, somewhat confirmed the next Total War Historical tittle will be for Rome II
34212a No.13747995
>>13734907
>Kingdom of Ulaid is in Connacht
>Kingdom of Connacht is in Munster
>Kingdom of Munster is in southern Ulaid and Ui Neill
>Ailech is mostly right but also in northern Ulaid for some reason
53a906 No.13748035
>>13747974
>from all total wars they pick the worst
Can't wait for this train wreck.
cdf753 No.13748136
>>13747974
somewhat was expecting for Empire
> oldest engine from the newer series
> not released with a crapload of dlc
> somehow still got a playerbase
well whatever, but isn't the fall from Rome technically what Attila portrays?
3e17fa No.13748141
>>13748035
Anon, think positively! Ever since Rome II they've only gotten marginally better. Every new release is a chance for a better game!
It's going to suck, isn't it
b6ccda No.13748433
>>13724756
Bronze age would be pretty rad.
5c040e No.13748482
>>13747995
I don't think you can actually modify the map on these new games, so whenever people try adding new factions they have to work with the province placement that's already there so it gets all messed up.
f1552b No.13748582
>>13748482
That's not the problem mate, it's that all those borders are kinda alright it's the fact that they literally just put them all in the wrong places
43890e No.13748648
>>13743479
No, I am a Medieval autist of the Northern US
35127d No.13748735
>>13748136
I predict anon this would be Constantin the Great's Campaign or Crisis of the 3rd Century
7869d9 No.13748945
>>13744505
I remember seeing some footage of that, it almost had me- up until I saw the game's combat
6bcd1f No.13748952
I think we're beyond the point that this series needs to die. It gave us some great games, but each new one is just getting worse and worse.
88939d No.13749014
>>13747974
CHOO CHOO TRAINWRECK INBOUND
I got six dollars and fifty seven cents on it being cracked in 12hr's.
7869d9 No.13749044
>>13747974
Really? Rome 2? Who the fuck this was a good idea?
02713a No.13749109
back when CA was decent i always wanted a proper pike and shot game. i spent like 200 something hours modding med2 to try and fix pikes and other units so i could have pike and shot battles with artillery. i had hoped that after fall of the samurai that they might do something like a victoria total war that went from the post napoleon era and ending at ww1, but CA decided to go full retard with everything after shogun 2.
963b53 No.13749157
>>13744505
The game is fun enough.
>>13748945
Combat is janky on account of the battle ai being semi-retarded but slaughtering 1000's of chink peasants with horse archers is fun.
8f4f6c No.13749184
Maybe theyre trying to unfuck Rome 2 a bit more with an expansion. Don't know what the fuck they'd add though.
a8cda5 No.13749198
>>13747974
>end of an empire
WELP THERE GOES MY OUNCE OF HYPE
Pic related will be better than this when it comes out.
2d1a70 No.13754521
>>13749198
The weird thing is that Attila is already the remake of that, why do it 3 times?
c39c09 No.13756818
>>13754521
I guess it's just easier for CA to port assets back and sell it as something 'new'.
cb92fa No.13756919
>>13742978
fite me irl, fgt
368382 No.13756941
>>13756818
Could be about Alexander and the collapse of his empire?
cdf753 No.13757776
>>13748945
>until I saw the game's combat
what is wrong with combat?
>>13749157
combat seems good enough, you setup formations and orders and see them unfold
nearby stacks can join in lines to make really wide epic clusterfucks
the problem, is with it being basically a new feature in any game of the genre, that none of us know how to work it properly
cdf753 No.13757786
>>13749109
>but CA decided to go full retard with everything after shogun 2.
>making a new Rome iteration in the new engine
>going full retard
?¿?¿
8ad99c No.13757838
>>13747974
>End of an era
>The fall of Rome
Isn't that just Attila?
Are they seriously making a DLC for Rome 2 to make it Attila? Dumbasses.
43890e No.13757860
>>13756919
>no timestamp
all the same, I would go to ren fests with you and we can destroy all the normalfags with our glorious autistic RP
f00b8c No.13757911
>>13757838
Nope, its West and East Rome plus 10 more factions
http://archive.is/iMagA>>13757838
43890e No.13757935
>>13757911
>it's 2013 stalwart
w e w
02713a No.13757968
>>13757786
do you really require an entire breakdown on why rome2 and subsequent releases are shit?
2abe1e No.13758216
So after making atilla a stand alone game instead of an expansion they are going back and making it an expansion?
43890e No.13758270
>>13758216
No it's Crisis of Third Century, still kinda the same shit though on Rome II no less
cdf753 No.13758441
>>13757968
>do you really require an entire breakdown on why rome2 and subsequent releases are shit?
yeah… I do.
8f4f6c No.13758658
Looks like it's a CRISIS OF THE THIRD CENTURY scenario, a period that exemplifies it's recurring issue of "SHIT WE NEED A BIG ARMY IN EVERY CORNER OF THE EMPIRE, BUT EVERYTIME AN ARMY IS BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE THOSE THREATS THEY DECLARE THEIR LEADER THE EMPEROR." Fun time period at least.
Will they actually change it enough to be good though? Or is it just gonna be Rome 2 2?
a76d01 No.13758957
>>13757968
You can't name anything beside DLC practices or nitpick autistic shit like historical realism.
35127d No.13758993
53a906 No.13759027
>>13758658
Unless they remade the game in a brand new engine it will be shit.
f18a83 No.13759237
>>13758993
> We want to support our historical fans with some content for what is arguably our most popular historical title to date with hundreds of thousands of players still actively playing every month.
Who are these people?
3d0921 No.13759375
>>13759237
The fans in their mind.
82831b No.13759497
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT
532700 No.13759668
>>13744451
>>13744516
Is there a problem with your head?
The whole point of installing EB2 is to keep the old Medieval 2 engine which gives you better battles and a better campaign map, not to mention a more historically accurate experience compared to Rome 2.
If Rome 2 and Attila were genuinely better, no one would bother investing so much effort into a mod for a game that's over a decade old and no one would waste their time seriously recommending the older games other than for the sake of seeing what they are like.
3e17fa No.13759849
>>13759497
I never understood why they felt the need to clutter up the unit cards. Med2 and Rome1 showed information clearly and quickly. Now they've got this huge goddamn icon that flips between states and doesn't even let you look at the bloody unit card since it's right in the middle. And what's with the health bar? Wouldn't it be more useful to show the precise number of troops you have? Who the hell designed this UI?
7d61c3 No.13759853
>playing Third Age
>finally get the one ring and send Sauron to lead multiple stacks on Minas Tirith
>game consistently crashes when I try to start the battle
Pretty upsetting tbh
I'd wager the Istari are responsible for this
532700 No.13759873
>>13759853
Did you install the 4GB ram patch?
I think that not having it causes most crashes.
7d61c3 No.13759899
>>13759873
worth a try
thanks anon
0946a8 No.13760016
>fucking $17
>for DLC of a game that came out nearly 4 years ago
They literally cannot be content Jews by milking the shit out of their Warhammer goybase. Now they have to do this shit now?
74ed91 No.13761418
Fun fact, Empire killed total war.
The ONLY acceptable Total war game to play is Med 2, if you play anything else, you have objectively casual taste.
If you bought Rome 2, that sucks, but it's a mistake everybody makes.
If you bought Shogun 2 after Rome please consider suicide.
Med 2 with Stainless Steel w/ realism mod where every character has property IS THE ONLY CORRECT WAY TO PLAY THE GAME.
MED 2 IS A WHITE MANS GAME, ANYTHING ELSE IS FOR NEGROS
74ed91 No.13761511
>>13758441
>Units still are buggy in cities, they do not walk down streets in large numbers without breaking up.
>Walls are still buggy and cause FPS slowdown and units to break up.
>you still can't push ladders off of walls
>Artillery is now super accurate and can be controlled by the player
>the rock paper scissors style of balancing has now been doubled down on
>sword units can now destroy spear units in mere seconds depending on levels
>units route constantly to the point of making battles unfun
>they didn't bother improving how the empire building in rome 1 worked, just aped it
>diplomacy is still a joke
>trading is still a joke
>religion is still a joke
>they didn't bother trying to refine how character (spy, hero, patrician) values work
>a high level character's stats take at least 5 mins to look over because it's all just percentages
>the civil war system (completely random and happens once and only once and only for the roman faction)
>NAVAL BATTLES
>naval battles
>naval battles
>FUCKING NAVAL BATTLES
>landing armies by sea is not something that's a viable tactic because there's only pre selected places to land your troops
>auto resolve is STILL fucked
>performance is still shit
>textures are passable but only on the roman units, all other units are generic and there's lots of repeated clothes (always an issue for total war)
>there's 3 different types of heavy mercenary cavalry the romans can hire
>1 has 10 less armour and 20 more health or something
>no other stat changes apart from that single change
>there's no reason why i'd use a legatus over a generals bodyguard
>why can't i see my generals anymore?
>why are there female gladiators and why are they objectively better than Principes?
Should i go on?
7e155f No.13761724
>>13761511
If I could add a couple, at least from my short play of Attila
>general upgrade trees are factionally standardized, hope you like +1 Zeal
>the political system is absolute trash
>90% of buildings are specific to their faction, a Saxon can't use a Frankish pasture, they have to convert it to a field
>actually, every single thing about the building side of things
>all armies require a general and cannot split
>linear upgrades to units
>instant upgrades can be purchased for those units
>the political system is the most worthless pile of shit imaginable
>no retraining
>roman factions start the campaign with every unit at 50% strength, because
>the political system, fuck it
Now, there was one idea I kind of liked in Attila, in that Rome starts with some advanced tech, but loses it as the world gets fucked by barbarians and whatnot. Unfortunately, instead of this being linked to the loss of major areas or something similar, it just happens as you advance along the tech tree. So they blew that pretty hard.
43890e No.13761733
a76d01 No.13761936
>>13761511
So all total war games are trash?
32ad40 No.13762017
>posting in a shill thread
burn me faggots
In honesty, though, I'm sure the game will be bare bones then they will charge for DLCs to complete it. They should've also improved the system/mechanics on other games like Attila. It could've played like CKII.
As for me? I'm just waiting for the ancient empires mod from attila. Had to re-install/uninstall that garbage from impatience.
c34185 No.13762904
>>13761418
>If you bought Rome 2, that sucks, but it's a mistake everybody makes.
>If you bought Shogun 2 after Rome please consider suicide.
Nigger, what does this mean? Shogun 2 is a good game.
Though it is fucking weird they are doing another barbarian invasion game when Attila exists.
Fucking why?
They should have expanded Attila instead.
c34185 No.13762908
>>13761724
>90% of buildings are specific to their faction, a Saxon can't use a Frankish pasture, they have to convert it to a field
This is actually wrong btw.
Saxon/nordic shares the building tree of the frank/germanic.
It's Roman and celtic that are different.
c34185 No.13762911
>>13759668
The whole point of making EB2 is because some modders want to continue EB1 from Rome 1.
Still ton more people play Attila, and there are more Attila history mods.
It's hilarious because I would say Attila is superior to EB2 and barely anybody play EB2.
da7a80 No.13762942
>>13744516
I still play med 2 vanilla.
0a4c9b No.13762950
>>13761418
everyone has a different taste and should play what he wants to play
721a36 No.13762953
>>13719408
We Wuz Total War Kangz?
532700 No.13762968
>>13762904
>Shogun 2 is a good game
Shogun 2 continued the many awful practices from Empire and made the series even worse.
Yes, they polished it considerably, but the base ideas present in the game are no good.
>>13762911
Again, people wouldn't bother making EB2 if there was no interest for it.
And Attila has more history mods than what game? Medieval 2?
Are there genuine improvements or are they simply cosmetics? Or are there more historical mods because they cannot change anything about it?
Not that this is a dick-waving contest about mods, so it doesn't matter.
>I would say Attila is superior to EB2
Opinion.
Besides, you're comparing a mod to a developer-made game. Even so, EB2 has significantly more detail to it and doesn't have a fuckton of bullshit like RPG-style levelling of generals and agents.
Could I hear some good points about Attila? Because no one ever lists those.
>barely anybody play EB2
Hard to say.
There's more to this than Steam statistics even though more people play Med2 than Attila.
See >>13719778.
Don't forget that many players still use their physical copies and don't need Steam for updates, unlike for Attila.
>>13762950
No one should disagree with that.
I like Empire for the time period, even though I know that it's a poorly made game and can admit it honestly.
We are arguing for the sake of objectivity here.
c34185 No.13762980
>>13762968
Shogun 2 doesn't even play Empire, and Shogun 2 FOTS is the best gunpowder TW to date.
>Again, people wouldn't bother making EB2 if there was no interest for it.
They were making it to continue EB1, and EB2 never did hit the notes that EB1 hits.
>And Attila has more history mods than what game? Medieval 2?
>Are there genuine improvements or are they simply cosmetics? Or are there more historical mods because they cannot change anything about it?
I mean, Attila actually tries to get to realistic (what's with all those shirt-wearing spearman all the germanic had), and it's worth playing without the mod, but some of the mods are very good, like Ancient Empires, which is basically Medieval 3.
>Even so, EB2 has significantly more detail to it and doesn't have a fuckton of bullshit like RPG-style levelling of generals and agents.
Medieval 2 has it too, you just can't pick the trait and have to do groom them to it.
>Could I hear some good points about Attila? Because no one ever lists those.
Attila is basically Rome 2 but good.
cdf753 No.13762995
>>13758993
> pre-purchase
ye right….
>>13759668
>The whole point of installing EB2
the whole of EB2 is autism
cdf753 No.13763011
>>13761418
> The ONLY acceptable Total war game to play is Med 2
> Med 2 with Stainless Steel w/ realism mod
> IS THE ONLY CORRECT WAY TO PLAY THE GAME.
essentially:
< the only acceptable game to play is the one I like
< but its only playable with mods
my point proven, and seek psychiatric help
55b59d No.13763020
What is the overall opinion on Attila /v/?
c34185 No.13763027
>>13763020
Eh, play it and find out.
0a4c9b No.13763030
>>13763020
texture pack for rome 2 imo
532700 No.13763035
>>13762980
>EB2 never did hit the notes that EB1 hits
What are you trying to say?
>Attila actually tries to get to realistic (what's with all those shirt-wearing spearman all the germanic had)
So cosmetics. I haven't played Ancient Empires, so I can't comment on that.
>Medieval 2 has it too, you just can't pick the trait and have to do groom them to it
That's where you are wrong.
In Medieval 2 generals and agents actually behaved like people. The traits were a little random at times (endless pagan magicians in vanilla), but they gave your men a lot of personality and only did things like improve/ruin morale, give slight forced marching ability (or decrease regular speed due to disease or laziness) or improve their governorship/make them unlikeable bastards who every peasant in the city hated.
Not +50% ammo for archers and +20 missile damage.
>Attila is basically Rome 2 but good
Let me rephrase that.
What is it that makes Attila better than Medieval 2?
If you can tell me that, I'll stop posting.
7d61c3 No.13763037
>>13763020
It's okay, nothing to really write home about
Playing as Romans is interesting
c34185 No.13763051
>>13763035
>What are you trying to say?
EB2 is not as popular as EB1.
>So cosmetics. I haven't played Ancient Empires, so I can't comment on that.
What do you mean cosmetics? EB1 has that too, because it's realism.
>The traits were a little random at times (endless pagan magicians in vanilla), but they gave your men a lot of personality and only did things like improve/ruin morale, give slight forced marching ability (or decrease regular speed due to disease or laziness) or improve their governorship/make them unlikeable bastards who every peasant in the city hated.
Attila has those too, you know, on top of the RPG mechanics.
>Not +50% ammo for archers and +20 missile damage.
To be frank, the technology tree already does that, and what's wrong with a general having specialized effects on his army?
>What is it that makes Attila better than Medieval 2?
Better culture system (clear cut between barbarian and roman and horse), better religion system, better family tree and political system.
Battle-wise, unit types become more distinct with more varied pros and cons, the idea of soft-counter and hard-counter become more nuanced (for example a two hand melee unit might lose to a one hand sword unit if the latter manages to hit the former with a flurry of throwing weapon before battle).
97da60 No.13763070
>>13763051
>shilling for Attila this hard
It's just a repaint of Rome 2 with all the garbage mechanics that brought to the table.
>and political system
Throw yourself off a tall building.
>the idea of soft-counter and hard-counter become more nuanced
It's cute how you pretend this isn't your first TW game. Let me clue you in, we had that shit as far back as Medieval 1.
cdf753 No.13763075
>>13761511
I haven't played Rome2, but I'll for Attila too
> units are buggy in cities and walls
no they're not, and least less than they were in med2
> artillery super accurate,
no they're not
> balancing
by far one of the most balanced TW game, spearman can hold off melee on their own but won't break them,
thus needing git gud strategies, either flanking, skirmishes or high numbers
> naval battles
they're actually fun for a change, and every unit is able to fight and sail, though at disavantage
I wish they didn't get insta navy though, vid related
> landing armies from sea
actually feasible, but of course with increased difficulty
> agents
they are the most annoying aspect of the game but really fucking useful
but then again, they were shit in med2 too
>>13761724
> the political system
really fucking important to master, by properly managing generals/governors and making them grown, it can literally make or break your empire
> buildings
you can use other culture buildings but you can't upgrade them
also city/region management is key and challenging, since you surely won't be able to build everything on a region, and upgrading a building soon as you can is often not the best course
> rome getting fucked over because of tech tree
no it doesn't, rome starts very strong and the only reason it gets fucked over is by sheer amount of enemies, literally every barb faction hate them
if you happen to cross them early game, gg mate
but everyone will wear them down and slowly take territory, its only when the huns come over that start razing cities
>>13761733
> hordes are fun
and this, hordes are extremely fun to play with, and really challenging
all in all, Attila is known to be the most challenging TW game to date
you faggots just need learn it
da7a80 No.13763089
cdf753 No.13763127
furthermore, the details taken in this game are amazing
the campaign map reflects the development level of buildings in cities, they are also reflected in battle, and damage caused in battle is reflected on the city
c34185 No.13763137
>>13763070
>It's just a repaint of Rome 2 with all the garbage mechanics that brought to the table.
Funny because Rome 2 doesn't play like Attila, at all.
>Throw yourself off a tall building.
Do it first ya hipster, Attila's political system where you build up power by placing your nephews/children into political spot is realistic and marvelous.
>It's cute how you pretend this isn't your first TW game. Let me clue you in, we had that shit as far back as Medieval 1.
My first TW was Medieval 1 actually, but no, Attila adds a lot more variety and thus makes soft and hard counter more nuanced.
97da60 No.13763162
>>13763137
>Funny because Rome 2 doesn't play like Attila, at all.
It plays like hot garbage. Attila just plays like garbage.
>Attila's political system where you build up power by placing your nephews/children into political spot is realistic and marvelous.
And about as engaging as breathing. It's badly implemented, simplistic and lacking any real challenge. It's just more pointless busywork that amounts to nothing, just like most of the features Attila and Rome 2 introduced to bog the player down with.
>My first TW was Medieval 1 actually, but no, Attila adds a lot more variety and thus makes soft and hard counter more nuanced.
Sure it does. And I can shit out a turd that is both soft and hard.
c34185 No.13763169
>>13763162
I think you gotta play Attila first before saying it's shit.
It sounds like you haven't played it at all.
97da60 No.13763181
>>13763169
I played it, it's the same garbage as Rome 2, with just more empire "management" on top so they can pretend the game isn't complete shit.
c34185 No.13763185
>>13763181
How Attila plays like Rome 2 at all is beyond me but okay.
97da60 No.13763193
>>13763185
>how Attila plays like Rome
The same way Napoleon plays like Empire or Alexander like Rome you cocksucking troglodyte.
49a333 No.13763213
>>13763075
>Actual shilling
At least it isn't for wawa I guess.
c34185 No.13763224
>>13763193
Napoleon is like improved Empire, and Alexander is a Rome expansion, but Attila doesn't play like Rome 2.
Rome 2 focus was heavy infantry since many factions still have under-developed cavalries.
Not in Attila where the main focus is cavalries and infantries play the backdrop.
97da60 No.13763230
>>13763224
>we changed the stats on the cavalry so it plays differently
>let's pretend all the broken and buggy shit in R2 still isn't present
Just drink bleach and do your family a favor.
c34185 No.13763239
>>13763230
Like for example?
da7a80 No.13763242
>>13763224
Mortal Empires turns are quicker than Attila on the exact same hardware.
What is your shillery for that?
97da60 No.13763246
>>13763239
Broken economy, broken diplomacy, broken trading, retarded tactical and strategic AI, pointless micromanagment to does nothing, shitty, broken political system, same blobbing bullshit as with Rome 2, physics issues, etc.
c34185 No.13763247
>>13763242
It's a newer game?
Then again, Attila has a shitton of factions. You can have roman rebels, eastern roman rebels, western roman rebels and roman separatists and western roman separatists, etc…
c34185 No.13763253
>>13763246
Those aren't example, those are buzzwords.
da7a80 No.13763260
>>13763247
med 2 is near instant. Attila took a very very long time. Mortal Empires with more factions takes less time.
So game age, no
Faction number, no
Attila, shit? Ding Ding Diing. Winner, Winner, Kevin Spacey Dinner.
97da60 No.13763263
>>13763253
>asks for examples
>gets given examples
>those aren't examples
I'm going to filter you now.
c34185 No.13763268
>>13763260
Medieval 2 faction turn is not near instant, I have proof for that.
Mortal Empires does not have more faction than Attila.
>>13763263
Start to argue anytimes, because those aren't examples.
531d1c No.13763281
>>13759497
Are all the archers Lindybeige?
da7a80 No.13763283
>>13763268
I just played med two on my computer for a few hours. the same one I have mortal empires on. the same one I have had Attila on.
playable factions in Mortal empires is 35, total factions over a hundred. I can't find the number.
Attila chokes.
da7a80 No.13763287
>>13763281
"My Lord, one of your archers is exceedingly pasty."
c34185 No.13763298
>>13763283
Medieval 2 total war faction turn is not an instant and you are lying to me if you say that, in fact, one of the problems of Med 2 back then is late game is basically waiting for the turn to finish.
And while I haven't counted the total playable factions of Attila, they are way more than Mortal Empires due to the way the game works, one faction can double itself with separatist and triples itself with rebels.
531d1c No.13763305
>>13763287
>My Lord, one of your archers has stolen patreon money and hasn't delivered a Graphic Novel."
cdf753 No.13763440
>>13763181
you're a piece of soft and hard turd
>>13763246
>Broken economy, broken diplomacy, broken trading
you're just saying words without meaning at this point….
>>13763213
some turd is spazing out saying a game is shit, I'm saying its not shit, and that is shilling to you?
cdf753 No.13763489
>>13763298
>>13763283
seriously though, enough with the circle antijerking
Attila is badly optimized but that doesn't mean the game is bad, late game get really long end turns considering, but at the same time is a big game in comparison
Mortal Empires also takes fuckton of time, I just watched what seemed like 5 minutes of load times post battle in a youtube video, so its not that much better
point is, people got upset because when Rome 2 came out it was a buggy turd,
that turd got fixed and later a new game came out with polished mechanics and it got a bad reception even before being released
Warhammer would be nothing without Rome2/Attila, and still it was buggy and unbalanced because of magical damage sponge creatures/heroes
97da60 No.13763541
>>13763489
Warhammer is shit, Rome 2 is shit, Attila is shit. CA is staffed by incompetents that can only produce trash since everyone with any talent left the studio long ago.
671c76 No.13764114
Is the free update going to add family trees like Atilla? Rome 2's politics screen is a fucking mess. Atilla has a much better UI and features, but the game gives so many negatives to public order that I find it a slog.
32ad40 No.13764126
>>13763020
they need to revamp the dynasty tree and everything is good.
9f2578 No.13764178
>>13763541
At least warhammer actually works. Playing ROME 2 or Shogun 2 the combat is blob broken. At least in warhammer the units have cohesion and you can't just run a cavalry unit through my lines without getting slaughtered. If warhammer is shit that's down to personal preference. Projectile weapons work in warhammer, there is unit cohesion, and there are millions of potential strategies and builds you can fuck around with because of the sheer amount of unit diversity(this is something alot of tw players don't like though they don't like having all these monsters and beasts running around their games) Warhammer TW is objectively better than anything rome 2 in terms of combat and it's not even a fucking contest.
97da60 No.13764186
>>13764178
>Warhammer TW is objectively better than anything rome 2 in terms of combat and it's not even a fucking contest.
So it's an upgrade from straight-up broken to somewhat functional? Call me when they make a good game again.
b588c6 No.13764239
So is there a DeI for Attila yet?
41d8a2 No.13766175
>>13719503
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
35127d No.13769398
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>Crisis of the 3rd Century Gameplay
c34185 No.13769439
>>13769398
This should have been an Attila expansion, goddammit.
3d8858 No.13769483
>>13763127
>flamming proyectiles
Total war franchise should just stick to fantasy
c34185 No.13769574
>>13769483
Ah yes, lindybeige master of history where cavalry as a concept is stupid.
But flaming projectiles have been a thing since Rome 1, nobody gives a shit nigger.
0833ed No.13769606
Is Attila worth a pirate?
c34185 No.13769709
0833ed No.13769718
>>13769709
Na CA can suck a dick.
c34185 No.13769731
>>13769718
After you play the game.
0833ed No.13769747
>>13769731
Considering the current state of their business practices I'm not inclined to give them any money at all.
c34185 No.13769755
>>13769747
They are by far one of the better devs, just wait for their completed edition.
b6ccda No.13769787
>>13763020
The hard cap on the number of armies you can field ruins the game. No matter how well you're doing economically, you'll never be able to defend all your territory. This is made worse when Attila finally shows up, because he can park 6-8 full stack armies and raid your provinces to ruin while you have 12 armies total scattered around your entire empire keeping order. Even if you kill Atilla in battle, he'll just teleport to another army every time until you destroy every one of them, which is incredibly frustrating. The ice age bullshit comes around completely out of nowhere and will pretty much doom you on the first playthrough because it pidgeonholes you into using the same set of buildings for each province so they keep fed and not rebelling.
3d8858 No.13770023
>>13769574
>Ah yes, lindybeige master of history where cavalry as a concept is stupid.
he only said that for the bronze age period, you didnt understod the main point of that video where he explained why cavalry was not so common in ancient history
>Nobody gives a shit
yes, nobody gives a shit about why castles are just settlements encircled whit a wall instead of being in a strategic location like a hill, or why walls dont have a moat to prevent siegue towers from reaching the walls, or how the diplomacy is broken and bugged in mdieval 2, or why archers cant shoot straight when they are on the walls making walls even more useless (really the center of the town is more defendable than the walls), or why the game objetives is to conquer almost everyregion even when it doesn't make sense to hold regions so far away whit a different demographic (just use a faction score system), i could continue but my point is that the Total war games are not focused on tactics an strategy, but on making tiny men fight and watch them, that's why on medieval 2 the bests mods are fantasy where the diplomacy is preset from the start of the game (like on call of warhammer: BTET where allieances are already set from the start) or the Planet Wars mod where you have a 10000 turn limit and the setting doesnt have to make sense, so total ar is mostly about tiny men fights.
bf98a2 No.13770068
>>13762904
shogun 2 is a decent game but a terrible total war game, the depth of the units is so shallow its just a simulation of what a war between rocks papers and scissors would look like, not to mention thats probably when most of the shittiest DLC practices started
c34185 No.13774950
>>13770023
Why post that when you can post a real Napoleon total war youtube video?
Also, considering Medieval 2 is considered by some to be the top Total War, I think people do agree that nobody gives a shit.
c34185 No.13774953
>>13770068
Eh, say what you want but Fall of Samurai adds a lot more variety and makes it super fun.
Very worth the money.
4f747a No.13774958
>>13774953
Most things that are free are worth the money, that's not much of a compliment.
c34185 No.13774968
>>13774958
Certainly worthy compliment considering it's a strategy game in a sea of modern shooters/RPG.
69887a No.13775142
Thinking of getting back into Stainless Steel once I'm done with much of my backlog.
I really like Med 2, but my only problem is I never really get a good handle on game flow. I don't know when the right time to shore up and pour money into my economy, or how to end a war in a way that doesn't involve full annexation and then getting pulled into a new war because people don't trust me.
Is there a guide on some useful things to know about Med 2/Stainless Steel?
3080ad No.13775149
>>13775142
Learn how to work with trash units and don't overspend. The Byzantines are a good starting faction for SS6.4 since they have a well rounded roster. Also dat greek fire
532700 No.13775202
>>13775149
They're also extremely OP right at the start, so he'd be shooting himself in the foot.
Still a fantastic faction, much better than what CA did for them in vanilla.
>>13775142
3 trash units > 1 professional unit
There is no point in bankrupting yourself with one amazing army when you could have 2 or 3 for the same price and conquer twice as quickly.
Just make sure you always have a small core of reliable units to use as your main killers (like cavalry) or reserve infantry if things go awry and your trash starts routing.
Generally speaking, you should always try to have enough money to build something in every city, but this isn't really mandatory.
Also, Med2 vanilla diplomacy is not worth the effort trying to fix. SS fixes it somewhat, but it still suffers from some issues.
cdf753 No.13775241
>>13764178
>Playing ROME 2 or Shogun 2 the combat is blob broken. At least in warhammer the units have cohesion and you can't just run a cavalry unit through my lines without getting slaughtered.
show prove or you're saying shit out of your ass
> If warhammer is shit that's down to personal preference
no, warhammer introduced mythical creatures and damage sponge heroes, things never done in TW before, and they were completely broken to begin with
I don't know how much they fixed for the original game, but Wawa2 seemed to have improved a whole lot in that aspect of things
cdf753 No.13775273
>>13769747
>>13769755
I agree Attila is pretty fucking good, and they even ported to linux so its worth a buy
but they business practice is really fucked up, its a really expensive game with even more expensive DLC
and they're more focused on pumping out paid content instead of improving it,
not to mention stupid decisions like >>13769439
cdf753 No.13775300
>>13770023
>so total ar is mostly about tiny men fights.
yeah basically, TW is a rts game wher eyou play with large scale armies and formations
the campaign map only exists to support and give reason to those battles
having said that, they made a pretty good game with that formula that is interesting both on battles and on the campaign
I don't understand how people expect it to mimic what wars, its a game, eg not real life, not perfect
FYI for anyone interested, we have been discussing another game called Oriental Empires,
which can be best described as a merger between civ and tw somehow, pretty interesting
c6255d No.13775308
>tfw there will never be an Empire Total War 2
a76d01 No.13775769
>>13769398
>Same boring copypaste campaign as the octavius campaign but with facebook game menus that occasionally pop up
>Only real new content is the new political system and unit cards
0d39ba No.13776715
>>13719643
>buggy ridden shit show known as Empire
Fixed it for you, anon. After seeing Empire, Rome II was inevitably gonna suck, so I left the franchise behind after Shogun II and never looked back. If you bought Rome II after Empire, you deserve to be embarassed.