7c1253 No.13682212
I've got to the point of the game when i had to choose between all three factions, completing as many quests as possible before that. And i am thinking i am going for clerics just for their fucking armor and weapons.
But i have something to comply about:
>skill attribute requirements are unnecessary high, while i constantly keep spare skill points
>requirements on weapons make you literally grind to be able to use a weapon
>there are many enemies and quests for which you have to grind certain amount into stats
>without leveling constitution first you're going to have a hard fucking time with the game because in reality you have to level most of your skills to certain point anyway, to meet faction skill requirements
>constantly struggling with basic enemies on fucking level 19
>companion damage is fucking atrocious, worse than peasant npcs
>you have to use jewelry and gems to increase your companion damage and health, and it increases it on a very insignificant amount
But the worst of it all:
IF YOU UPGRADE YOUR WEAPON YOUR STAT REQUIREMENTS FOR IT GO UP 10 POINTS IN BOTH STATS IT USES AND YOU MIGHT NO LONGER BE ABLE TO EQUIP IT AGAIN UNTIL YOU GRIND UP FOR A WEAPON YOU PAID ELEX AND RESOURCES TO UPGRADE
THAT'S JUST FUCKING STUPID
There's SO FUCKING MUCH mmo-tier grindan, its atrocious, its killing good quests they made and the world design. It makes it a fucking chore, constantly needing experience, constantly needing to grind, constantly running from shit you can't kill until you grind some more, constantly needing to munchkin, just to make up for skill requirements, weapon requirements and stupidity of developers.
This game is a fucking mess. I've seen games with atrocious stat requirements, but they always presented an alternative suit for your current level, but this game is just ass.
78f90d No.13682226
Why are you playing shovelware?
7c1253 No.13682238
>>13682226
Because there are some good things in this game, maybe? Or because there are no good open world action rpgs on the market and all AAA games are on the same quality level as shovelware.
3f17b3 No.13682241
>>13682226
Why are you using words incorrectly?
b21833 No.13682249
>>13682238
Go replay Gothic and Gothic 2. PB haven't made a game worth a shit in over a decade.
78f90d No.13682250
>>13682241
This is literally shovelware in the same vein as Bound by Flame or Gothic 3.
7c1253 No.13682251
>>13682249
>Go replay Gothic and Gothic 2.
I plan to do it too, don't need to rush me. I first need to inhale the new feces.
3f17b3 No.13682252
>>13682250
Now you're using literally incorrectly
78f90d No.13682255
>>13682252
Literally suck my dick.
3f17b3 No.13682259
>>13682255
Your dick is literally shovelware
78f90d No.13682285
>>13682259
Why are you using words incorrectly?
3f17b3 No.13682295
0d7b61 No.13682373
>>13682212
This game takes place after a nuclear apocalypse, right? What kind of nuke scorches the flesh clean off of bones but leaves windows and furniture unharmed? Why is only one window boarded up in a half assed fashion when it's clear from the skeletons that they died instantly without any warning?
43982b No.13682380
This game is clearly shit. And when people say "well it's just like gothic with guns" does that mean that gothic games are also shit?
1980ec No.13682428
Back to the codex. Take your westernshit with you.
43982b No.13682445
>>13682428
Hey some of the best games ever made are western, like Dark Souls or Castlevania, so fuck off.
0d7b61 No.13682453
>>13682428
>>13682445
>forgetting Sunset Riders
plebs, the both of you.
2cfede No.13682473
>>13682212
another good game that cucked itself by punishing itself and the player for having fun
cd96d4 No.13682511
0f62ba No.13682960
>>13682212
I was contemplating playing this game but then I saw a .webm some anon posted where the player character fucks some whore and the dialogue involved was such liquid baby shit that it turned me off completely from the prospect of firing it up.
136c44 No.13683878
>>13682212
Dunno, OP, I don't share most of your concerns. Haven't ground a single second, getting EXP through simply exploring and slaughtering whatever I stumble upon. Got to level 20 with 30 constitution, couldn't care less about companion damage since their main purpose is to stagger enemies and tank them. Also how the fuck do you have any problems at level 19, I've been going around slaughtering mountain trolls and shit since level 16 – are you using the combo system right? If you chain your attacks, it starts doing massive amounts of damage. What are your stats, did you put enough into STR and DEX? Maybe you made a shitty build.
136c44 No.13683895
>>13683878
forgot to add, pic related are my stats atm.
842e55 No.13684019
I see a lot of anons saying they're joining Cleric but seem to use melee fighting. Are ranged weapons viable, later on? In Risen 2 and 3 guns were overpowered.
e39044 No.13684063
>>13682380
or perhaps you're wondering why would someone play gothic with guns when one could be playing skyrim with guns fallout 4
136c44 No.13684072
>>13684019
Last thread there were anons claiming that ranged weapons were OP, so they probably are viable.
b08dd5 No.13684076
>>13684019
Once you become a cleric it doesn't even matter if anything else is viable, just spam black hole to kill everything.
47d010 No.13684079
>>13684063
Was being on point instead of making the joke part of your plan?
09ecc0 No.13684083
>>13682212
>playing this garbage
I guess you really like playing shit, huh. Why don't you try playing undertale next?
77e4ce No.13684123
I completed the game a few days ago, i think i have like 40 hours but i kinda rushed the game. I completed almost all quest (but some quests are still not completed because i saw no way to complete them) . I joined the Clerics too and after you get the Psy powers, your character is much stronger. The one ability that creates a black hole is my favourite since it does aoe damage and pulls the enemies towards the center. What i don't like is how fucking much armor costs. The Tier 3 set costs like 20000 elex, too much even after you complete a shitload of quests. Also the game was way to short, but still breddy gud.
136c44 No.13684157
>>13684123
I'm reaching about 60 hours now, about halfway through the game (haven't joined any faction so far). The meat of the game is in exploring the map, there's lots of places that quests don't guide you to that have lots of interesting shit (or even quests of their own). 20k elex is chump change if you explore enough
9496b5 No.13684175
>>13682212
It is shit game. What do you expect?
>Stats do literally nothing except being prerequisites for skills
>Enemies are hard just for the sake of being hard as a shout out to old Gothic
>Does not realise Gothic was hard early game because lack of resources and skills, not every enemies having boss HP and armor which requires top-tier weapon to damage
>Factions are boring and pretty much the same. Gothic factions offers unique benefits for each factions (access to magic, faction exclusive best weapons and armours, free stats goodies, etc.)
>How the fuck does it have less quests than all other previous games?
>Short, 20-30 hours top
>The nameless hero is witty, snarky, and charismatic. Another fucking "Commander" Jax on the other hand, I have passed shit with more personality than him
>Atrocious UI which is somehow several steps back from the previous games
>NPC personalities are bland as fuck, barely memorable
>Tackled on janky as fuck "companion romance" option
>The world, holy shit. How the fuck 5 biomes even come together in one piece
>Heavy emphasis on combat, though combat system is absolute shit and also several steps backward from previous works
>Cannot display both ranged weapon and melee weapon equipped on character. Something Gothic and Risen managed to do and that was many years ago.
The only good point is that it made me reinstall G2, G3, and Risen to play them again.
cd96d4 No.13684189
>>13684175
>Factions are boring and pretty much the same. Gothic factions offers unique benefits for each factions (access to magic, faction exclusive best weapons and armours, free stats goodies, etc.)
Did you even inform yourself about that game? Or tried it for that matter?
>NPC personalities are bland as fuck, barely memorable
Everyone is different.
>Heavy emphasis on combat, though combat system is absolute shit and also several steps backward from previous works
Don't spam M1.
136c44 No.13684205
>>13684175
>Stats do literally nothing except being prerequisites for skills
not true
>Enemies are hard just for the sake of being hard as a shout out to old Gothic
Also not true, you are just shit at the game
>Does not realise Gothic was hard early game because lack of resources and skills, not every enemies having boss HP and armor which requires top-tier weapon to damage
a mid-game weapon with requisites around lower 40's is enough to beat pretty much anything bar the strongest fuckers in the game
>Factions are boring and pretty much the same. Gothic factions offers unique benefits for each factions (access to magic, faction exclusive best weapons and armours, free stats goodies, etc.)
Nigger, you get exclusive armors too and you get a different mechanic with each (magic/psi/stims)
>How the fuck does it have less quests than all other previous games?
the fuck aree you on about?
>Short, 20-30 hours top
Maybe if you rush through it. I'm reaching 60 hours and not even halfway done
>"Commander" Jax on the other hand, I have passed shit with more personality than him
Albs being emotionless if part of the setting
>Atrocious UI which is somehow several steps back from the previous games
Are you fucking retarded? Gothic 1, for example, only had a health bar and one of the shittiest inventory systems in existence
77e4ce No.13684216
>>13684175
You didn't play the game a Second did you?
>Stats do literally nothing except being prerequisites for skills
Stats really do make you stronger even if you still have that shitty axe you get in the beginning
>Enemies are hard just for the sake of being hard as a shout out to old Gothic
Enemies are hard since you lost ALL your Powers and start from the Bottom. It's just your average Piranhia Bytes game where you start as some weak fag and later you are death incarnate.
>Does not realise Gothic was hard early game because lack of resources and skills, not every enemies having boss HP and armor which requires top-tier weapon to damage
You can basically kill every Enemy without getting hit once since the beginning. You just have to get the Fighting system and Master it. I killed alot of Strong mobs with my shitty 20 dmg axe
>Factions are boring and pretty much the same. Gothic factions offers unique benefits for each factions (access to magic, faction exclusive best weapons and armours, free stats goodies, etc.)
Berserkes give you Magic and Bows
Outlaws give you stims and Handguns
Clerics give you Psy Powers and Laser Weapons
Every faction has unique looking armor.
>How the fuck does it have less quests than all other previous games?
proofs?
>Short, 20-30 hours top
I had 40 hours and i didnt even Explore everything. The other anon said he is reaching about 60 hours and isn't even half done.
>The nameless hero is witty, snarky, and charismatic. Another fucking "Commander" Jax on the other hand, I have passed shit with more personality than him
well that nigga had no feelings for almost his entire life so you can't really expect him to be charismatic, also it depends on your dialouge choices how he reacts and what he says
>Atrocious UI which is somehow several steps back from the previous games
They wanted to make something minimalistic and it isn't that bad.
>NPC personalities are bland as fuck, barely memorable
I remember tons of people from every faction and my companions.
>Tackled on janky as fuck "companion romance" option
I didn't romance that slut since she is crying all the time about muh nature n sheeiit but yea i have to give you that stuff like this shouldnt be in a PB game.
>>The world, holy shit. How the fuck 5 biomes even come together in one piece
Calm your assburgers, they just wanted to make something fun to explore and give every faction a unique home.
>Heavy emphasis on combat, though combat system is absolute shit and also several steps backward from previous works
the combat system is okay after you get how it works, but it never gets as good as gothic for example.
>Cannot display both ranged weapon and melee weapon equipped on character. Something Gothic and Risen managed to do and that was many years ago.
I liked it in gothic and risen but im not really bothered by it missing.
Just. play. the. game or stop shitting on it
9496b5 No.13684263
>>13684189
>Did you even inform yourself about that game? Or tried it for that matter?
Played it on two runs. Berserker and Cleric. About the same shit, but different ass. 'Enchant Weapon' and 'Modify High-tech Weapon' is pretty much the same, except one is for medieval melee arms, and other for high-tech melee arms.
>Everyone is different.
Names, and minor personality difference, yeah. Also companions are really unlikeable. A murderer, a stronk womyn with personality of a salt cracker, a robot, another robot, another robot cannibal, a psychopath, and the fucking Marty Stu thief.
>Don't spam M1.
Played mainly ranged and 'magic'. Because getting into melee with fighting colossus with the Albs shooting at you is bad idea, and going after Albs first and letting the robot fire at your ass is suicide. Oh, those Albs also pack flamethrower which is basically spammable AoE knockback gun. Companions are worthless in combat, except maybe at low level against one or two critters which they can be the bait, but those dumbfucks will not attack unless they got attacked first.
>>13684205
>Nigger, you get exclusive armors too and you get a different mechanic with each (magic/psi/stims)
Magic and Psi is pretty much the same thing except Psi is more versatile (knockback, black hole, immobilise). Magic is just fire/ice/poison blast with different firing modes. At least in G2 I get a bloody good stew so good it gives me Strength if I roll with the merc bros and the best and second best weapon and armour when I become dragon hunter, magic ore weapon if I roll with paladin, etc.
>>13684216
>Berserkes give you Magic and Bows
>Outlaws give you stims and Handguns
>Clerics give you Psy Powers and Laser Weapons
>Every faction has unique looking armor.
Unique looking armour with the same stats. I will give about Outlaws and their chems, but bows, crossbows, laser weapons are not faction exclusive and since the ranged combat is packed into one skill, suddenly an Alb was never touched a bow in his life who became Cleric is a master archer because he is good with laser rifles. He might not be able to do triple shot and scattershots, but hey.
>Just. play. the. game or stop shitting on it
I played the damn game, and I find it wanting.
423c28 No.13684268
>>13684216
>all those random capitalization
9496b5 No.13684269
>>13684263
And the main fucking plot is a total rip off from Mass Effect. Bloody cracker and biscuits.
77e4ce No.13684276
>>13684268
im no native english speaker im so sorry you had to see this
136c44 No.13684293
>>13684263
>Played mainly ranged and 'magic'.
suddenly, you being asspained about difficulty makes perfect sense. Are you aware than in melee, if you chain combos, the damage you deal increases tremendously?
cd96d4 No.13684339
>>13684263
>Played it on two runs. Berserker and Cleric.
Eh the one is Magic & Varg and the other one is Technomagic & Aquinas.
Both have different armor, weapon and different ideologies.
That makes them kinda different my dude.
>Also companions are really unlikeable.
They aren't supposed to be likeable. Everyone is being a dick including the protag. Nothing really changed from Gothic. Instead of sarcastic bastard you're a logic bastard.
9496b5 No.13684384
>>13684293
Melee is useful from time to time because ammo do not grow on tree. My point is that combat seem to be difficult for the sake of it because of the enemy balance. Sure, once mastered. You can even take down a cyclop with crappy stats and melee weapon though it may take a long time to do so like every Gothic game. Level 1 and 15, melee build, same Rotboar, still crap. And armour do help very little, almost unnoticeable, at least it was somewhat noticeable in Gothic.
Useful against creatures, but certainly not against Albs because while you are fighting 2 or 3 in melee, others and their drones shoot at you, worse if they pack flamethrowers.
>>13684339
I will give you about different in characters and ideologies, but the presentation as in quests and others sucks. In G2 or Risen, I roll with Mages, I get to do priestly things and before that I get to play novice and do things acolytes do, and in G2 I can get on that ship and that sad guard cannot stop me. I roll with Merc/Bandit bros, I get to play thugs and shakedown people. It plays archetype upon the neutral community and gets recognised as such.
Clerics, help our community. Solve our internal problems with some of our people being bad and out of line (Elex and chem deals). Berserkers, help our community. Solve our internal problems with some of our being bad (some one stole Elex, some douche ban some douche from the bar).
One difference would be that one promotion quest. Cleric, go and convert these three fools. Others promo quest? Berserker, go find this one dude, root up weeds, check the tax, carry a message, thrash those Outlaws (I will admit, it was alright); Cleric, distribute soup and more internal affairs.
136c44 No.13684414
>>13684384
But this is just untrue. At lvl 15, you can easily take down a fucking troll (in a matter of a minute or two) if your build isn't total shit and you chain the combos right. I don't think you realise just how much damage the combo adds:
>1st swing, damage doesn't even register on the enemy health bar
>last swing in the combo eats quarter of enemy healthbar, the swings before that eating enough to get enemy to a third of his health or less, just by executing one combo chain
Ranged weapons have no such thing as far as I know.
I'm slaughtering Albs by simply dodging their projectiles
03576c No.13684509
>throws shit on fo4 because it's bad
>shamelessly swallows up elex
</v/
136c44 No.13684521
>>13684509
>elex
>anything like FO4
kill yourself
056bae No.13684541
>>13682380
>And when people say "well it's just like gothic with guns" does that mean that gothic games are also shit?
This is a clear case of "If Fallout 4 is shit, maybe Morrowind is shit too?"
793c4f No.13684548
>>13682212
dude this is one of the best games i've played in a good long time. Gothic was garbage. But the one thing they do right is make little details count in quest choices and companions might fuck you over when you talk to people. I also enjoy that your gear is 100% used during cutscenes. I suspect the difficulty in accessing the gear you want is because I think they assumed you would play it again at least enough times to do all endings and by then would be able to better plan a character build. There is always farming pure elex and making elex drinks.
056bae No.13684556
>>13684548
>Gothic was garbage
Opinion discarded.
03576c No.13684560
>>13684521
>how dare you compare open world rpgs
>STOP POINTING OUT THAT MY OPINIONS AND TASTE ARE SHIT AND THAT I CRITICIZE BGS BECAUSE I WANT TO BE EDGY
>AND NO I'M NOT A HIPSTER FOR OVERHYPING A SHITTY OPEN WORLD GAME THAT FALLS BEHIND OBLIVION IN BASIC SHIT LIKE GAMEPLAY, DESIGN AND ANIMATIONS
<MOOOOM ANON IS MEAN TO ME AHHHHHH
There is a whole site where you can be as edgy as you want, and if people dare attack your shit taste, mods will ban them! Your autisitc screeching is not only accepted, it's encouraged!
It's called reddit, try it out!
136c44 No.13684565
>>13684560
>Fallout 4 is an RPG
opinion discarded
793c4f No.13684567
>>13684509
>Humans of space faring civ in the year who the fuck knows what on Earth like moon of giant barren world with a very low orbiting second moon experience comet induced post apocalypse
>post apocalypse
>JUST LIEK FALLOUT
793c4f No.13684586
>>13684384
Pack an energy shield and those guns mean nothing to you. The AI is easy enough to bait into making those flame throwers work for you. If that sort of meta bothers you yes those fucking things are retarded op.
9496b5 No.13684608
>>13684556
>Gothic was garbage.
Hello, NeoFAGGOT.
03576c No.13684637
>>13684565
>swallows up elex, calls it rpg
>fo4 is not rpg duh
Make peace with your brain before you reach adulthood. We don't need an other voting snowflake in society.
>>13684567
>tries to give depth to elex
>writes down autistic and idiotic garbage that makes no sense but, oh, it's so edgy
I bet the commands in elex are designed so that you can crossfit while playing. And there's no hunting because everyone is vegan.
gb2 reddit and bring your shitty and edgy game with you
793c4f No.13684658
>>13684637
0/10 ur just mad that's the real lore and ur forced to hear about it when u start the game. taste the edge of my sphincter.
b24d6b No.13684665
well well well if it isn't the shill from the webm thread
6e5418 No.13685161
Are there mechs you can pilot or at least power armor?
863fbd No.13685270
>>13684123
>The one ability that creates a black hole is my favourite
This was my least favorite. Because no way you can use it if you have companions or friendly soldiers.
>spam it during the offensive on clerics side
>clerics become triggered that it hits them too and they kill me for friendly fire
What a load of crap.
7c1253 No.13685470
>>13685161
No, the mechs in the game are just reskinned ogres with jetpack and guns.
24c4ce No.13685489
anyone completed this game without a jetpack?
7c1253 No.13685517
>>13685489
Why? Jetpack is crucial part of your character. Some places are impossible to access without it, it would break quests if you remove it.
79807e No.13685539
>>13685470
>the mechs in the game are just reskinned ogres with jetpack and guns.
24c4ce No.13685555
>>13685517
anon on russian /vg/ is roleplaying as berserk, he did not pick up his jetpack at the beginning. He says that the game can be completed without it and looks like designed for this type of playthrough
ac1461 No.13685593
If you focus on the skills that energy weapons need you can end up with a 100 damage plasma blaster very early. The most fun way to play in my opinion is melee and magic, though. In pure DPS I'm pretty sure that the War Bow III is the best weapon in the game with Scatter Shot, which shoots 5 arrows in one shot.
>>13685555
Nice, checked.
I heard about that on Codex, pretty cool. I think some of the sidequests cannot be completed without using the jetpack, Falk's quest came to mind.
ac1461 No.13685598
>>13685593
First part of this post was meant for
>>13684019
436ab8 No.13685635
The guys in webm thread didn't buy it, did they?
24c4ce No.13685715
>>13685635
>not supporting good devs and their game
ce60e8 No.13685734
>>13685635
if you didin't buy it I sure hope do god you don't buy any games ever
77e4ce No.13685787
>>13685270
yes i had that problem too but i just didnt use it during that offensive
>>13685635
even if they didn't i did
aee48d No.13685791
>>13685734
>Using a client when you don't have to.
77e4ce No.13685802
>>13685791
i use it too because my internet is shit and it cant handle downloading big stuff through the browser
6e5418 No.13685979
>>13685715
When you put mechs into the game and then never let player use them it's not a good game, an devs are most likely asshats.
ac1461 No.13687303
>>13687293
What? I don't think I got any dialogue in the Kallax fight.
bb0cdd No.13687319
>>13687303
Well, then you must had skipped something. There's lots of dialogue in that fight scene.
ac1461 No.13687342
>>13687319
No, I just went there, there was a cutscene and the fight started and I killed him with a few attacks of my badass Fire Ripblade II.
f7f361 No.13687803
>>13685715
>>13685734
>>13685787
Is this the next Digital Homicide?
ac1461 No.13687869
863fbd No.13687893
I get Mass Effect 1 and Star Wars Episode 3 vibes from the ending.
>your father betrays you so you won't go buddy buddy with hybrid
>you can actually join Albs to hunt down traitors
>hybrid is preparing the megalan for the literal reapers
>obviously free people have shit strength against them without hybrid help
>like a fucking Anakin Skywalker on cold ending you go and betray everyone even though you were destined to become "chosen" hero for their salvation from the hybrid and become second in command leader of the Albs
>missions and freeplay after credits
>hybrid is not angry at all for destroying his entire army he is putting you into command of now
>probably have to gather even more elex to rebuild the army, such a waste of resources
Lost all my will to continue playing anyway. I don't even know what to think and want to put it aside.
863fbd No.13687934
Ah yeah, forgot that:
>the boss is literal House, survivor from the old world, kept alive by power of machines and elex
ac1461 No.13688271
>>13687893
Please don't spoil the ending for others. I completed the game just a few minutes ago, before reading this, luckily.
863fbd No.13688394
>>13688271
>Please don't spoil the ending
Where do you think we are?
ac1461 No.13688421
>>13688394
Being a faggot just for the sake of being a faggot isn't being an ebin 10/10 god tier laughingreactionface.png troll. I'm making an exception for Bethesdashit and AAA garbage because I don't care and it's only targeted at normalfags outside this place.
863fbd No.13688485
>>13688421
>impyling the game was good
Yeah, if the game was good maybe i would spoil this shit. This isn't a good written story to be worried about, nothing in it is original. Its a teenage sci-fi with things stolen from new vegas, mass effect and star wars. With exception that all main roles are given to bulky wrinkled dudes.
861de4 No.13688510
>>13688271
right wouldn't want anyone to be spoiled on this masterpiece.
0afb2d No.13688514
>>13688271
>First line is 'I get Mass Effect 1 and Star Wars Episode 3 vibes from the ending.'
>Reading past that if you dont want spoilers
Are you autistic?
ac1461 No.13688575
>>13688510
The game is pretty good.
861de4 No.13688630
>>13688575
not really? It suffers from a ton of problems.
ac1461 No.13688644
>>13688630
Not enough for me to dislike it. I think there's some real gold in the game.
ba5fc1 No.13688781
flamethrowers are autistically fun
ac1461 No.13688813
>>13688781
If by fun you mean overpowered, yeah. It's basically the easy way out because you can perma stunlock people.
f2d4ae No.13691165
>>13688813
Anon its a fucking flamethrower, once you are on fire there is nothing to unburn you.
0127e3 No.13692382
>>13689767
>no Divinity: Original Sin 2
b3ca01 No.13692751
000000 No.13693105
24c4ce No.13693151
>>13693033
Looks like jetpack is not necessary
c04e23 No.13693225
I have no patience for these fest quest simulators with sitty gameplay anymore. Unless rpg evolves alot im not playing any
ac1461 No.13693645
>>13693225
And no one cares what you want, faggot.
7decc8 No.13693695
This thread reminded me that most people here are about 15 years old, and retarded.
ac1461 No.13693730
>>13692751
It's good. The combat is actually pretty decent save for some broken things like one of the combo attacks on the two handed axe never registering and animation skipping on enemies certain enemies, it's difficult even to the end and you will get oneshotted by most enemies until you're hours in with enough experience and armor. The quests are pretty enjoyable and all have at least one or two choices, and your character building will come in, with different skillchecks for crafting, combat, charisma and whatever else, you can often scare your enemy into submission by using combat dialogue options. All the factions have their upsides and downsides, the Berserkers want to bring nature back to Magalan, but absolutely hate technology and Elex and use Elex to transmute it into Mana for magic. Outlaws don't give a fuck and use Elex to make drugs and guns, living on with scrap from the old world. The Clerics are extremely high tech and live in the bleak shithole that is Ignadon, which is lava and rock with little to no nature and have a cultish worship of their god called Calaan. The world is absolutely giant and you can go to basically anywhere, see that mountain? You can actually climb it with enough time and effort.
>>13693105
As stated previously there is nothing wrong with combat, aside from a few broken animations (if you hit enemies on the ground they can sometimes get back up instantly.) Some faggots whine about "dealing no damage :(" because they're underleveled at level 5 and no weapons, stats or armor and expect to kill a raptor on the road. The game even has a skull next to enemies that might be too strong for you. Hey dipshits, you aren't supposed to fight everything, you're supposed to kill the small and weak shit and do the basic quests for the people in Goliet (starter city) to earn XP and elexit, and run from the strong shit. Don't go beating a troll or swamp spider with an iron pipe.
842e55 No.13693790
>>13693730
It's a minor detail but I love finding cigarettes, like in the pic, and soft toilet paper when looting the old world ruins. Makes me think, I guess.
8d71fe No.13693894
>>13693730
Wrong, all fights are the same even if they have a skull; mainly from using a stun-locking weapon, earliest is with the plasma gun you can get near the Separatists HQ.
It gets faster once you join the clerics and spam black hole and even more so once you get the bugged cleric amulet which regenerates your energy even past its max.
There doesn't seem to be any detrimental effects for stealing and pick pocketing if you don't get caught, which makes it easy to get money to buy Natural Elex to make Elex potions to artificially strengthen your character.
ce60e8 No.13693922
>>13685791
that's why my playtime only shows two hours
000000 No.13693941
>>13693790
That's what makes Fallout great.
ac1461 No.13693963
>>13693894
That's if you play the anti-fun way. I focused on melee and magic in my save.
24c4ce No.13693982
58e590 No.13693993
>>13693941
>that id
Holy shit what are the odds?
ac1461 No.13693999
>>13693993
I get that this is a funny meme and all, but with those halfchan filenames I wouldn't be surprised if this was serious.
048be5 No.13694048
>>13693999
trips confirm,cuckchan newfag needs to lurk some moar
061efb No.13694125
>>13682380
Or maybe Gothic and Elex are good games and it's your taste that's shit, Todd?
368c41 No.13694873
Its kinda funny that elex shards share the same color as ore in Gothic. I wonder if just a coincidental reference.
316ada No.13701197
YOU CAN CONVERT SMALL MENTAL ENERGY RESERVES ALL THE WAY UP TO POTENT 1:1 FOR NOTHING AND MAKE INFINITE BANK AT ORIGIN
316ada No.13701205
>>13701197
Using said bank you can then spam Elex drinks and break the game in about 10 minutes.
863fbd No.13701239
>>13701197
And here i thought alb enemy loot was broken.
316ada No.13701270
Trader at Origin's inventory refreshes instantly after each purchase, so buy up the electronic scrap and sulphur (or iron ore) and make a raft of small Reserves then convert them up and sell back to him, rinse and repeat. I made 20k for the Regent armour in about 2 minutes.
It's a pretty glaring omission, they managed to make everything else you can upgrade a 2:1 deal.
c6968a No.13702518
u should try the second one
dc07f1 No.13704092
Just played about 3 hours. Really enjoying it so far. The lack of waypoints alone gets me hard. Actually having to learn the environment, and listen to people really takes me back.
9ac0d8 No.13712352
>>13684873
>Not storing rotational energy in your body before a quest
pathetic
5df948 No.13712636
>>13694873
>a coincidental reference
that's one way to spell 're-used assets'
1e90b3 No.13719764
Any ideas how to get rid of insta-death bug with radiation/poison/cold/fire?
Poison and radiation zones instantly kill character, even if he has full radiation protection skill, anti-radiation mask and antiradiation chem. I suspect its a glitch, but i am stuck now. Can't complete Big Bang just because i can't enter radioactive zone where one of the parts for it is located.
Apparently i am the only person on the internet who has this bug.
316ada No.13723766
>>13719764
If it's just you then you're doin sunfink wrang.
The VERY quick health eating areas are like the edges of the map, they'll rape you even if you're full of resistances/ring/necklace etc. There must be another route to what you're aiming for, just circuit around the fucked up area.
316ada No.13724918
>>13723766
You can traverse the grimy environments if there's a visible cause of an effect ie:
Poison barfing plants
Alb extractors/cables
Lava
Radioactive barrels, with the exception of the lake in the south east that links Ignadon to Tavar which is a clusterfuck corner.
Otherwise it's edge of map/'we don't want you getting to close to this' (I'm looking at you Calaan) invisible boundary work that fucks you fast regardless of gear.
1b1ca4 No.13725323
I just started and my god this game is fucking ugly. I was playing Red Faction Guerilla today and even that looks better than this. Why the hell are their textures so shit?
000000 No.13726518
>>13684175
>hurr da durr gothic was hard early game but you become god like later xd
I want this stupid meme to die, gothic 2 (and 1 too) was the same difficulty the entire game - hard.
In fact it got way harder at the higher levels since you weren't fighting 2 scavengers anymore, but 4-6 lizardmen or 10 orcs at once.
I haven't played elex but the fact they added womyn fighters and they ripped difficulty settings straight outta skyrim are major red flags.
b3ca01 No.13726543
>>13693730
might get it on sale then.
a4900f No.13726545
>>13726518
Difficulty settings are a thing since gothic 3 and risen.
000000 No.13726779
>>13726545
Dark souls doesn't have difficulty settings, nor did gothic 2.
398e4b No.13726875
>>13725323
what's the point in putting effort into a game if no one is gonna play it?
cee4b2 No.13726889
>>13693730
I dunno what the fuck you're on about mate. Combat has 0 weight to it and because of the sloppy animations there is a significant lack of satisfaction from beating things. All combat is like this from the very beginning to the very end, regardless of how strong you are it's still a headache because you get tripped up on weird rocks or animations that are supposed to move an enemy forward don't etc. At it's core the combat would be passable but ultimately it just feels very poorly executed. With some TLC they could spiff up the animations and maybe make combat have more depth then just spamming attacks to fill your kick-ass-o-meter. It's less a case of a difficulty because of challenging fights with monsters who have unique mechanics, and more a case of wrestling with the slidy controls and hoping your attack actually connects with an enemy this time when you swing.
As for ranged combat it's very boring but straight forward. If your ranged weapon does lots of damage, you win. If it doesn't, you plink at stuff for a half hour and probably lose.
I really want to like Elex but the devs don't get a pass for shitty cut-rate development just because "they made gothic" just like I don't cut Bethesda any slack for how janky and buggy their games are because "they made morrowind" or something. The shitty presentation impacts how enjoyable the gameplay can be, and ignoring that is some religion-tier blind devotion. Elex has potential, Elex 2 would possibly be a considerably better game, but Elex 1 is very much a 5/10 across the board unless some huge patch drops that cleans up everything.
ae6ecb No.13728166
>>13726518
While I agree that a difficulty option is (or rather should be) redundant I think the difficulty of the game itself is fine. I'd put it on the levels of NotR difficulty.
Also think twice before you lump G1 and G2 into the same difficulty, especially NotR. I replayed them recently and G1 is the easiest out of any in the series, including Risen 1 but probably not Risen 2 and 3 though. While G1 is punishing to people unfamiliar with the combat system and tactics, it becomes a cakewalk for anyone familiar with G1 and G2. And I think it's fair to say that Gothic 3 is harder even though a large part of it is to blame on poor balance and just a shitty combat system overall.
>>13726889
I find the combat to be serviceable. Though that's not saying much. I agree with most of what you're saying regarding the combat but it's also the best they've done since Gothic 2. Risen 1 had okayish combat but it was also very floaty and aiming anything ranged was a nightmare.
817f85 No.13728806
Am I meant to die in one hit to one monster and effortlessly kill another that looks almost identical but with slightly less dense spikes?
316ada No.13729331
316ada No.13729381
>>13687893
I went for offing Hybrid he went down like a bitch with a decent sword and a quick sustained attack, quite anti-climactic in both cases it seems.