d048c6 No.13670870
Sales & reception of pic related have been declining ever since they've been insisting in making combat more active, up to the point that they are an action-rpg series now. Meanwhile Persona and Pokemon remain wildy popular (and Dragon Quest in Japan as always). When will S-E learn? Will we ever get another turn-based FF?
8b64be No.13670905
I'd honestly rather see it fucking die at this point. With the shitshows that were XIII and XV, I think Square has proven themselves to be incapable of either improving on existing formulas or creating something new and substantive for the series. It's dead, let's stop poking at the corpse.
10e67c No.13670910
>>13670870
When will we ever get another Tactics game (the only good entries in the series)
de6582 No.13670970
>>13670910
One FFT mobile game with Facebook and Twitter integration, coming right up!
>It looks like you're low on energy. Get a refill for only $0.99!
>Having trouble winning that difficult battle? Buy a "Chantage Pack" for only $4.99 and become invincible for three fights!
6f24d0 No.13670980
Final Fantasy became way too popular in the west because of FFVII and stupid jap execs think that everyone here is retarded and only plays action games.
2da7ca No.13670989
>>13670910
>doesnt need to appear outside his own game
except SE shoved him into both FFXIV and dissidia NT
f4e6e4 No.13670992
Let's list all the jrpgs that are better than final fantasy.
I'll start, vagrant story.
6f24d0 No.13670997
>>13670989
Nobody plays FFXIV
b0c5b8 No.13670998
>>13670870
The recent mainline entries are Final Fantasy only from name and maybe few repeatable parts in all of them.
I didn't touched MMOs.
XIII and XV look like complete garbage.
XIII from stupid waifufag with awful taste. Lightning
XV is just next open-world game with fujoshi wet dreams
>>13670910
Even third FFTA would be good enough.
But if >>13670970 happens, then maybe it's better if that FFT rest in peace.
d048c6 No.13671030
>>13670992
>the spend 70% of the game navigating in menus game
no thanks
912e22 No.13671033
You'll only get a return to the classic formula in spin-offs. Pokemon only lives because Nintendo hasn't really fucked the core enough in multiplayer to get people dropping it. If it were relying on single player, then Pokemon would be suffering a lot more. Persona, as bastardized as it is, still carries SMT genes and that puts it ahead of other jrpgs in mechanics and challenge. I'm actually wondering how DQ will do with the latest installment. The MMO is similar to XI and XIV where it's not a continuation of the series, which means DQ has had a 7 year gap. Probably due to SE squandering resources on everything to prop up their bullshit passion projects. FF and almost everything else at SE is dead or relegated to handheld/mobile hell while the old farts in good favor get to make insanely expensive console games. That's gonna change with them panicking enough to sell FF7's remake in 3 chunks while gluing MP onto XV. Single player games aren't dead. Cinematic HD3D4KVR turds with poor gameplay tacked on are what's dying. That said, I would now like to bet Kingdom Hearts 3 will have multiplayer post launch with exclusive worlds for that mode and the ability to play as other characters from every game in the series.
f4e6e4 No.13671042
>>13671030
OK, you don't like jrpgs fine.
10e67c No.13671043
>>13670992
still an FF game (based off of FFT)
cba622 No.13671053
>action RPG
>hold up and press circle to continue
>congratulations you win
6f24d0 No.13671060
8ee390 No.13671070
8ee390 No.13671076
>>13670870
Persona's sales numbers are no where close to FFXV's.
FF,Dragon Quest and Pokemon are in a completely different league than Persona.
f06dd6 No.13671086
>>13670910
>facebook meme
>>>/cuckchan/
>>13670870
We did get a Turn-Based Final Fantasy but it didn't sell very well.
d58fdc No.13671100
>>13670870
Pretty sure FFXV sold well enough to not immediately throw squeenix into bankruptcy make of that what you will.
8ee390 No.13671113
>>13671086
Budget vs sales number is important.
fc662b No.13671163
>>13670992
Just about everything from GameArts. Also Suikoden and Xenogears.
2acdb6 No.13671182
They're faggots who play a game of darts to see whay sticks by releasing games with different kinds of gameplay.
They constantly try to change the formula around for each game they release, and they completely disregard the audience's opinion when it comes to sticking to one thing or the other, leading to retarded shit every new game.
Every game has something fun about them, and something that makes you want to hammer your dick in (except maybe the gbc version of FF1).
f06dd6 No.13671192
>>13671113
>480,000 world wide
even if it was a middle market budget its still a flop for Square Enix standards. And compared to the financial success of FFXV & NieR:Automata. They book net sales of ¥256.8 billion for an increase of 20% billion year over year in 2017.
f06dd6 No.13671216
^ I meant to add: With the huge profits thanks to easily "action RPGs" like FXV and Nier, I doubt they will abandon the formula.
56f607 No.13671438
>>13671100
That's what I thought too after Squeenix ported the game to Steam, and shilled the shit out of the game via apps. Nier amd FF14 are also keeping SE alive.
1f710b No.13671453
No dude, turn based games just aren't fun. They're too slow and you have to press buttons to navigate menus. It's 2017, nobody wants to play glacially paced weeb games with underaged 2D titties.
I have to put on this flag or someone might take me seriously
0a0724 No.13671458
>>13670910
Another FFT/FFTA on the Switch would be the shit.
But in the mean time check out the mods, don't know much about the FFT modding but I know FFTA has one called 'Grim Grimoire' that reworks a lot of the game. Fun, just keep an eye on who you let in your party since if you get too many high levels the game scales to them and fucks you.
f06dd6 No.13671663
77ac94 No.13672697
Turn based combat without a battle map to move around in is boring and gay. CRPG battle systems are inherently better. Prove me wrong.
6f24d0 No.13672709
>>13672697
RPGs are pretty boring.
cee1da No.13672884
>>13672697
Only when you have ADD.
>>13672709
You lack imagination or should have played anything else.
1d8907 No.13673391
a61583 No.13673489
Phoneposter here. You're all nigger faggots and don't deserve Ramza.
>>13671453
>underaged 2D titties
Made me fucking reply/10
66e67b No.13673541
>>13671042
There are real-time RPGs made in Japan, too.
dac5ed No.13673607
>>13670870
Didn't FFXV sold more than FFXIII? Like 6 million units? Only PSone era FF titles sold more. Your entire argument is invalid.
e4376b No.13673971
my final fagasy would be to shove ass in clouds dick if you know what im sayin