84a781 No.13666249
Has anyone actually managed to pull of this faggots Max Act successfully?
9c5307 No.13666259
Was Nero a decent character? I remember lots of people saying he was the worst character before Donte, but exactly how bad was he as a character compared to the rest of the cast?
84a781 No.13666282
>>13666259
He's pretty a pretty tite guy outside the romance subplot. He can be obscene (especially when fighting with the Bianco Angelo), but his taunts and moveset make up for it.
665ea0 No.13666296
>>13666282
>He's pretty a pretty tite guy
wat
35d875 No.13666326
>>13666249
Not with any sort of regularity. Every now and again I can get the timing, but even when I was practicing it I couldn't get it every time.
>>13666259
>Was Nero a decent character?
He's far from the worst. I wouldn't call him good, but decent? Sure.
ebd090 No.13666948
>>13666259
He's basically just a broodier Dante with a girlfriend.
6359cf No.13667579
I used to be able to pull it off on certain moves and combos, but it's one of those things you gotta practice constantly because it's that fucking precise and I'm getting too old to crazy.
6fc965 No.13667649
>>13666259
Playing the game he's actually not that bad, has more of a vergil edginess to him than casual fun dante but can crack a one-liner when he needs to.
9dc072 No.13667672
>>13667649
People tend to attribute everything on Nero to that one scene where he was pissed and couldn't save Kyrie from the pope.
accd79 No.13668632
>tfw I have special edition but haven't even got past Belial with both Vergil and Lady/Trish
Fucking backlogs man
6a69a3 No.13668681
>>13666249
I did it on roughly 10% of my swings back when I played DMC4 a lot, but by now it's been years since I played the game.
e7283b No.13669107
Why do people hate Donte so much? I played the game and he didn't seem all that edgy, unlike how people around here seem to say. He just seemed like a confused teen type-of-deal, and as the game's plot progressed he became more and more mature, and his hair turned white to represent his transition away from childish antics and his growth into a more of a classic Dante. I kinda liked it. People keep comparing him to Shadow the Hedgehog and other edgy shit, but honestly he just seemed like an angsty traumatized not-quite-Dante-yet character.
I liked it more than the traditional cheesy overly shiny asian vidya look, I guess. It had more tangible soul to it than that.
accd79 No.13669152
>>13669107
The thing is, our first contact with him was the succubus fight, where he is extremely edgy and, really, quite out of character.
For most of the rest of the game, you're right, he's a pretty normal dude. Bland, really. But I'm fairly convinced they toned down the edge a lot after the backlash of the first reveal.
4803f6 No.13669163
>>13669107
The creatorwho donte is a self-insert for and "journos" poisoned the well long before the game came out so a lot of people just weren't going to spend money on it. And it's being a mediocre at best game wasn't going to do any good to change that.
e7283b No.13669174
>>13669152
I guess. But even if he was that edgy, what's the difference between doomguy being ridiculously edgy and monstrous and Donte? Where's the line between edgy and ironically edgy? Because Donte was pretty self-aware in the way he was done, imo.
>>13669163
Source for the self-insert claims? Also, what's that about the journos? I don't read SJW schlock so I might be blissfully unaware on this front.
780dc8 No.13669210
4803f6 No.13669212
>>13669174
>Source for the self-insert claims?
Look up what TemeemI don't know if I fucking spelled that right, but it's the guy who's head of the dev that maid donte must cut and tell me you don't notice the similarity.
>Also, what's that about the journos?
How the fuck did you miss that shitstorm? Basically journos were rather happy that the fans of DMC didn't like what they were seeing and acted like smug jackasses about it. Then when the game came out they crowed about the game's "Shakespearean writing." No I'm not making that shit up. And just withing the last year there was one that was still butthurt over the game selling like cold shit.
d0b2ab No.13669225
>>13669163
Amusingly, the journalists attempting to burn the old DMC series in attempts to say that the new one would be better got me to check out DMC, which I had mostly ignored up until then, and ended up loving 3 and liking 4 in some ways.
e7283b No.13669272
>>13669210
A differing opinion is not always bait. You're acting like Tumblr does when their dogma is questioned.
>>13669212
The self-insert shit is forced at best, to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if it did actually happen but the evidence right now is meh at best. As far as journos go - their job is to brew shitstorms and reap the drama. I wouldn't be too surprised at that. The game sold like shit primarily because it alienated the old playerbase due to redesigns and a failure to measure up to older installments in mechanical skill more than anything, I think.
I feel bad for the art team and their creative direction overall. It could be good, but they just had to slap the DMC label on it, and as a result have both alienated the old playerbase and failed to attract a new one. I fucking loved the integration of classical artwork with the more sleek, urban tilt, and especially the parallels between large corporations and the demons running them.
So, nothing new here, then? Journos fucking ruined everything as usual, it seems.
780dc8 No.13669321
>>13669272
the bait is evolving!
e7283b No.13669413
>>13669321
Dante and Virgil are half-demons, and this guy is complaining that they're not acting like knights in shining armor. The first webm is clearly shot on low difficulty, as well.
e7283b No.13669461
0b79b0 No.13669478
>>13669174
>Source for the self-insert claims?
This faggot wasnt around for the DmC FUCK YOU threads
17d469 No.13669489
ebd090 No.13669537
>>13669174
>Because Donte was pretty self-aware in the way he was done, imo.
You're giving the writers too much benefit of the doubt. These are the guys that thought having Monkey, in Enslaved, kick off a poor helpless innocent dangling from the top of a building made him a badass. The writers at Ninja Theory seriously think being a irredeemable asshole makes someone cool. I'm not saying that Donte is one, but Ninja Theory are definitely not self-aware.
>>13669413
>Dante and Virgil are half-demons
Sons of the only good demon that existed, and half-angel in DmC, as well.
>this guy is complaining that they're not acting like knights in shining armor.
He's complaining the writing is completely inconsistent with Vergil's character and how he barely has any redeeming features for supposedly being one of the heroes. Donte and Vorgil aren't deeply written; they're badly written.
e7283b No.13669695
>>13669537
I guess. Still, not nearly as bad as /v/ makes it out to be.
>>13669478
I just didn't read em. They were there, but it was mostly anons spamming low-effort memes.
>>13669489
>RRREEEE you don't agree with the opinions I've absorbed through hours of /b/-tier shitposting therefore you're an invader on my safe space
ebd090 No.13669857
>>13669695
>Still, not nearly as bad as /v/ makes it out to be.
That's because you're not aware of the context around the game. It wasn't just a mediocre action game with a focus on its poor story. It wasn't even just an unnecessary reboot of a beloved series to try appealing to a wider market. It was a blatant attempt to spite the DMC fanbase and go "nyeh nyeh, we're going to make this game more successful than any of those lame games you like". You had journalists claiming Tameem was the "savior" of the series, journalists saying 60 fps was something only losers cared about, the developers claiming it would "feel" like 60 fps despite only being 30 fps, journalists claiming fans were only upset because Dante's hair wasn't white, the developers acting proud that their game was a silly anime game like the rest, Ninja Theory's twitter thanking a magazine for a raving review that actually hadn't been printed, yet. Fans were told "if you don't like it, don't buy it", and, after the game sold poorly, fans were blamed for "not giving the game a chance". There was a huge attempt to take a dump on DMC and its fans with DmC, and, when it failed, they acted like they were the victims.
ebd090 No.13669867
>>13669857
>the developers acting proud that their game *wasn't* a "silly anime game" like the rest
e7283b No.13669888
>>13669857
The journos did. They're the hyenas of the industry.
>>13669867
Now this is more damning. You got source on that?
ebd090 No.13670064
>>13669888
>You got source on that?
Sadly, no. It's been too long for me to exactly remember everything from that time, especially specific tweets and interviews. I did find some other damning articles, though, like Tameem saying 30 fps is a good thing.
http://archive.is/BW6e4
Tameem hoping DmC will "break the myth" of video game stories being shit.
http://archive.is/9iINC
Tameem saying that old Dante isn't cool anymore and his is.
http://archive.is/jmOUy
And there's, of course, the slides from Ninja Theory's GDC 2013 presentation on the making of DmC.
Tameem, at the very least, was of the opinion that classic DMC was just ridiculous Japanese stuff that wasn't cool and that his interpretation was going to be cool.
e7283b No.13670128
>>13670064
This is very, very pathetic and you've succeeded in making me hate this faggot deeply.
17d469 No.13670149
>>13670064
>trying to make a character less of a faggot
>end up making him a 100% homo
044569 No.13670233
Might as well post some of the DmC shit.
35f0df No.13670246
>>13670064
This is why you never let Gaijin handle Japanese properties. They always fuck it up. See also: Dead Rising.
044569 No.13670275
>>13670238
And, I just realized I posted the same picture twice, and one doesn't even have any relation to DmC''.
044569 No.13670284
>>13670275
>Now fuck up the text formatting
bb177b No.13670342
>>13666259
>Was Nero a decent character?
No, he was a bare bones shounen archetype who existed as a marketing gimmick because Capcom thought that Dante wasn't popular with the kids. He's a one dimensional, pussy-whipped, emotional trainwreck who only ever thinks with his dick. His design and personality are alright, though. He could've been given a more complex motivation and an actual origin story, but what're you gonna do? The story was garbage, so you can't expect much from the characters to begin with.
>>13666282
>romance subplot
>subplot
That was his entire motivation, though. It directly impacted the story's outcome, too. If his girlfriend died, Nero wouldn't have had any reason to go on, even when the stakes were raised, and Dante would've had to clean up his mess.
ce3bb2 No.13670576
>>13670128
How new are you? Lurk more
044569 No.13670736
>>13670637
The Western companies never seem to "Fuck up" when it comes to shooters. And, before someone brings up LP3, let me just point out that everything about that game with the PR, the interviews, and info being given is too sketchy to know what went on with that. It seems like everyone knew it was going to fail, but no one could explain why nothing was done to prevent it.
bf861f No.13670787
>>13669107
>I played the game and he didn't seem all that edgy,
That's because Tameen was a gutless fuck and couldn't even keep his edgy donte that was shown in the initial trailers. He doesn't even smoke in the final game and is stuck in some shitty limbo between edgy donte and bad knockoff of regular dante. Honestly going full edge would have been more entertaining at that point.
cdc43e No.13670836
>>13666249
Just get your timing right, my dude. After a practicing a few time it becomes second nature.
cdc43e No.13670864
>>13670128
I thought all this was commonly know.
Tameem trully did believe that Dante was based on the "old" 90's meaning of cool and wanted to make him timeless by ironicly making it a dated early 2010's style emo fag.
ebd090 No.13670903
>>13670736
Retro's Mega Man X FPS looked like it was going to be a massive fuckup had it not been canceled.
7a2fc0 No.13670960
>>13669107
I agree, if Donte wasn't supposed to be Dante and DmC wasn't meant to be a Devil May Cry game it was actually kinda fun. But considering it was meant to be a Devil May Cry game and was mechanically inferior. The poor characterization really just was the straw that broke the camels back and the Drama about Donte's aesthetic was largely a straw man the developers resorted to in order to ignore legitimate criticism of the game play. But if it was a stand alone game with no ties to Devil May Cry it was enjoyable enough to warnet a playthrough.
6f6968 No.13671061
>>13670064
>Tameem, at the very least, was of the opinion that classic DMC was just ridiculous Japanese stuff that wasn't cool and that his interpretation was going to be cool.
Suppose he got it right. Suppose his final product actually ticked all the right boxes of what "cool" is.
Why the fuck would you take a franchise with an already estabilished following, who admittedly already love it's MC, and just try to change it to your view? How any human being with two brain cells to rub together would think that was a good idea is beyond me. DMC wasn't a underdog franchise, with a meek following, that would benefit from revamping it's MC. But they went and changed it, and acted surprised people who liked old DMC didn't like it, and people who didn't like old DMC didn't care about it.
There's no logit to what he did.
ffd8cb No.13671115
>>13669107
The SSShakesperian writing.
They made Vergil into a trencoat-wearing, fedora-tipping, teleport-behind-you edgelord. Dante constantly acts like a bitch in the cutscenes and overall acts like a brat for the majority of the game.
ebd090 No.13671343
>>13671061
According to Ninja Theory, their first concept of their new Dante was actually very close to old Dante, but Capcom told them to change it, with the reason being why would they ask them to do a brand new take on DMC if they're not going to make it all that different. Capcom wanted a completely new reboot, probably hoping that doing so would bring in millions and millions of sales.
6f6968 No.13671397
>>13671343
So Capcom was the problem once again?
Once again?
Once again?
d707db No.13671405
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>>13669107
Assuming it's not bait, there's a long series of videos going into detail as to why DmC wasn't well received by the fans.
d707db No.13671432
>>13671343
>>13671397
I remember hearing that Inafune somehow influenced the decision to go for Ninja Theory. Incidentally he also helped make the newest terrible Ninja Gaiden game.
ebd090 No.13671457
>>13671397
As >>13671432 said, it was probably a lingering result of Inafune's westabooism at Capcom. He's the one who wanted to partner with western developers.
f0f236 No.13671474
Yeah it's just a matter of playing him long enough and knowing where in the attack you press exactly for max act, once you get that down you're heavily rewarded.
Mainly you want to learn the timings on his first slash in the basic 4 slash combo.
His ground pound move with at least 1 exceed since this becomes godly crowd control and damage if kept at 3 and his air dash attack (lock on + Back > Forward > attack) since this turns a lot of flying enemies and the priest into small time.
7a2fc0 No.13671484
>>13671432
>Inafune somehow influenced the decision
it all makes sense now!
0caaea No.13671498
I have never played a Devil May Cry-game before but i bought DmC because it was cheap and got me over the free shipping-hump. I tried it out for a day or two and got far but it just felt so mediocre and easy. And there weren't any cool shit you could do or pull off like i've seen videos of the other games being done.
It's just a lackluster game with a dumb, easy and accessible combat system that any button-mashing retard can play with.
d707db No.13671506
>>13671432
>>13671457
Found two sources from 2010 actually. You can absolutely blame Inafune. Again.
http://archive.is/7o8vG
http://archive.is/42eHK
5513db No.13671507
>>13666259
>Was Nero a decent character?
From what I can tell older fans were annoyed by Nero since he had the spotlight and they still wanted to play as Dante, but after DmC everyone's tone changed to webm related.
84a781 No.13671555
>>13671115
>webm
That's some comedic gold right there
5513db No.13671590
>>13666249
to get back to the original question
>Has anyone actually managed to pull off Max Act successfully?
I do all the time just times just not with 100% consistently. A regular Act is more forgiving with it's timing were a Max Act is Frame perfect.
I'm just keep pressing the exceed button after almost every attack. It's about having timing and a little luck sometimes.
Webm related
84a781 No.13671644
>>13671590
I had no idea you could rev during that move.
853cc9 No.13671680
Nero is extremely strong and an okay character. Him screaming for his waifu is annoying however.
Once you learn to time max act like ~25% of the time he becomes an unstoppable boss-killer. (Not including crazy boss Dante)
All you do is always charge your gun to level 3 while you do shit, fly around the level with Calibur, grabs and jump cancels and exceed on every hit you can.
Bursting bosses with Nero is incredibly easy, and once they go into their weakened state you just DT, grab and ravage them.
He's a very easy, but solid and strong character.
5513db No.13671683
>>13671644
It only lets you do so when you already have at least 1 bar.
087957 No.13671720
>>13671498
I hope you played the other ones after
00ff73 No.13671723
Is it me, or is Capcom good at modelling women I want to fuck?
00ff73 No.13671724
5513db No.13671748
>>13671723
I completely agree with you, one of the few reason I going back to DMC2 once in a while is that I really like Lucia's look
cdc43e No.13671857
>>13669174
>keeps asking for sources instead of using google.
I mean it's okay to do that but holy fuck nigger you're lazy.
95b3ca No.13671999
>>13671857
>using (((google)))
If you do, you'll probably get google approved content such as articles about how gamers are babies who hate Donte's hair.
5513db No.13672021
You know I just love Devil May Cry so god damn much. it's been my favorite series ever since I started playing them when 4 first came out.
I really hope Itsuno is working on a proper DMC 5 and that Capcom doesn't fuck with his work too much.
17d469 No.13672031
>>13672021
>I really hope Itsuno is working on a proper DMC 5 and that Capcom doesn't fuck with his work too much.
a man can dream
5513db No.13672043
>>13672031
Even if his project isn't DMC related at least Itsuno almost always manages to put out a good game.
d707db No.13672048
>>13672021
>we're a few months away from it being a decade since DMC4 was released
95b3ca No.13672051
>>13672021
>>13672031
>>13672043
A good game that the executivea at Capcom try to screw with. Itsuno must have banged the wife of every executive at Capcom considering how much they fuck with his games.
5513db No.13672100
>>13672051
>Itsuno is a total bull who fucked all the Capcom executives wifes.
Thanks for putting this image in my head anon.
ebd090 No.13672128
>>13672100
>that little Dio on the chalkboard
Damn it, that made me laugh.
5513db No.13672139
>>13672128
I never even noticed that.
044569 No.13672270
>>13671748
>Japan makes a negress waifu material
<Meanwhile in the West…
84a781 No.13672348
>>13672021
I love Devil May Cry too anon, but I've learned to just let it go. Capcom is nothing but e-trash now.
The best that can happen now is that Capcom goes bankrupt and sells the rights to a proper, well known publisher.
403c6a No.13672361
>>13672348
>Capcom goes bankrupt and sells the rights to a proper, well known publisher.
>yfw it's EA
ebd090 No.13672371
>>13672361
I think Capcom corporate is too proudly Japanese to do that. They'll sell it to Squeenix, instead.
84a781 No.13672397
>>13672371
>Devil Cry V: Mundus Cloud: Part II
>>13672361
They'll release some stupid pozzed version of the game with some retarded black main character fighting the evil demon whyte man. Dante will take a seat back to a strong proud woman of color.
some part of me wants to see this happen
9dc072 No.13672840
>>13671343
To be precise, it was Keiji Inafune who told them to do that.
5513db No.13673208
>>13672348
>I've learned to just let it go. Capcom is nothing but e-trash now.
Untill I see for sure that That Capcom is so bad that They make Itsuno's game into unredeemable garbage I won't give up hope.
If Itsuno's game is actually shit, then I will gladly let Capcom fuck themselves over into the ground.
78e455 No.13673317
>>13672397
>/ebon/ hack n slash
I'm okay with this.
683296 No.13673367
Occasionally.
I can do Just cuts on Vergil easily but Max acts are annoying
>>13671680
>All you do is always charge your gun to level 3 while you do shit
this, he became so much more fun and powerful when I changed his gun from X to a trigger
and bustering a boss, revving and releasing releasing gun during animation while devil triggered is just disgusting
ed16ee No.13673421
84a781 No.13673518
>>13673208
Your optimism is revolting anon
Godspeed.
5513db No.13673615
>>13673518
It's less optimism and more that the Idea of a Future DMC5 or Ninja Gaiden 4 are some of the few things that keeps me going.
b3556c No.13674011
b3556c No.13674043
>>13670128
And you're very fucking new and defended a shitty game without knowing better.
690406 No.13674181
>>13669174
Burning the history of games is important to some people. Call it what you will, but the effect is the same. "please forget the past" why is not naming every remake exactly the same thing as the original fooling everybody?
I live in Europe, It's really bad here. It's like living in a circus clown parody of a dystopian control state, but it's actually real. Next they invent a single word for not being a part of the society that surrounds you. And that word will be used to slave everyone.
Brexit was the best thing that ever happened in Europe. But now they think that "it's actually not possible to leave EU", so brexit is just a smoke screen. Good news everyone, we are now slaves to the private banks. I bet good times will come from this.
5513db No.13674264
>>13674043
While real DMC are games that get better the more you play them. DmC gets worse the more you play it and the more you know about it.
Lets say someone isn't an already established DMC fan and got DmC for free on PlayStation plus or some shit. If they only play the game once and then forget about it they would probably think "that game was alright." They have no frame of reference on just how much better DMC 1, 3, and 4 are.
That's why you never see anyone who has beaten DMC3 on DMD say that they think DmC is good. because no one who put the time into actually learning how to play Devil may cry well is going to defend DmC.
There may be DMC fans who like DmC regardless of it's flaws like MP4 related is someone who can still have fun with the combo system, but no one who knows their shit is going to defend the train wreck that is DmC.
9dc072 No.13674384
>>13674264
Too bad the PC version didn't get the upgrade.
84a781 No.13674475
>>13674264
>No fine taunting to top that fine work off
The lack of that feature alone should be enough to turn everyone off this turd
5513db No.13674544
>>13674475
>No taunting
Seriously it's the fucking worst. In DmC your DT takes for fucking ever to fill up, and if you had taunts that gave you DT and style that would improve the game significantly, But no Ninja theory thought having Taunts could ruin their ground braking story, "When Dante and Vergil are fighting at the end it wouldn't make sense for Dante to be taunting him. better not have it in the game at all"
Fucking cinematic bullshit is the worst thing to ever happen to video games.
683296 No.13674917
>>13673615
at least Nier Automata was recent and decent
5661a1 No.13675006
>>13671590
>not charging the pistol while chaining
5661a1 No.13675026
>first DMC game I ever played was DMC 4
>get so used to the awful keyboard control scheme I can't imagine myself playing the game with a controller
>still suck ass at DMD because I haven't played the game in years
5513db No.13675035
>>13674917
So was Transformers Devastation, I'm thankful Platinum is consistently making good action games save for TMNT being dogshit somehow, even if they all pretty much just use the Bayonetta template.
I'm also Glad Nioh is coming to PC, and I hope that means Team Ninja is now working on NG4 having learned from their mistakes from NG3.
My Dream is for DMC5 and NG4 are announce at the same time.
>>13675006
Well that webm was mostly just an exceed demonstration for OP.
bc8d14 No.13675203
>Max Act lvl 3 Streak a bunch of enemies into a wall
>Into Max Act lvl 3 High Roller
>Into lvl 3 Split
>Instant SSS
ed8d53 No.13675230
>>13666249
I'd consider myself pretty average at the game but I always got it fairly consistently off of Helm Breaker. I think it has a wider input range due to the move being inherently hard to time (based on how high you are), so just guessing gives a good chance.
accbc3 No.13681280
>>13666249
Ya. Its pretty easy on some moves like streak and split. Its hard to get the time down perfect in some of the other moves though
accbc3 No.13681297
>13681280
But its totally doable. I remember watching russian streamer who was able to get it almost all of the time. I swear I only saw her miss like 5 times the entire stream
11c432 No.13681484
>>13675203
Those timing based moves are always the flashiest shit.
Besides this and Royal Guard Vergil's Judgement Cut is a lot of fun. Also found it a lot easier to learn than Max Act.
bf7ac4 No.13681543
>>13674264
i haven't ever played DmC, but why does that game always look so clunky when people are chaining together combos like that?
DMC4 is smooth as hell but I can't place where the difference is. the animations? the inertia, or lack of it in DmC?
for a game so concerned about presentation, they sure managed to royally fuck it up.
5513db No.13681587
>>13681543
DmC's animations look decent when your doing the full combo but when your canceling it looks janky, I imagine this is because Ninja Theroy had zero experience in putting any kind of canceling gameplay mechanics into their games, but do so in this case because it was on the check list of things they were contractually obligated to put in the game.
3ed7e7 No.13681620
>>13681543
What the fuck this giant car is doing there?
2cdc96 No.13681628
>>13669107
I'M YOUR PROM DATE
84a781 No.13681638
5513db No.13681647
>>13681620
There are allot of mods for bloody palace's background. I think that's a silent hill one.
95b3ca No.13681650
>>13681628
Grow up, stop being so immature.
be0509 No.13681653
>>13681620
>>13681543
>>13681647
I was about togot to sleept but you have given n me pause
d707db No.13681684
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>>13681543
I'd wager 30fps for a start. Second would be that in DMC3 the wind up for attacks is longer but the attacks themselves are shorter. In DmC the attacks last a fair bit longer even though a lot will come out of the wind up before DMC3's attacks will. Recovery seems to vary but that's something we can ignore given most people will cancel out of recovery.
5513db No.13681724
>>13681684
>30fps
To be fair it's not 30fps that's the definitive edition of DmC which is at 60fps.
5513db No.13681729
>>13681724
it also has turbo and basicly a bunch of shit that people modded into the PC version that should have been in the game day one but they made a whole new version only on PS4 and Xbone so the PC players who Ninja theroy copied get shafted.
d707db No.13681775
>>13681724
>video published 2013
>definitive edition
Not in that video mate.
5513db No.13681800
>>13681684
I'm not talking about the video you posted i'm talking about the one I posted >>13674264 which is the one he is talking about here >>13681543
d707db No.13681829
>>13681800
Okay. Yeah in that case I'd chalk it up to the actual DMC games having a better grasp on easing in and out of the attack animations.
237f2e No.13682330
>>13666259
Nero was garbage and i hope he never shows up again, same for donte
If they want to give us another character to play as, give us Trish.
84a781 No.13682476
>>13682330
>Nero
>Garbage
Nigga did you see/play his credo fight?
But seriously though what really turns people off Nero? apart from the ground pounding incident.
5513db No.13682505
>>13682476
>What really turns people off Nero?
DMC4 was my first DMC game so i never disliked Nero but I suspect people don't like him because he's basically just Diet Dante/Vergil.
DMC3 did Dante and Vergil fantastic where Nero simply isn't as impressive as them, though that's kind of the point of Nero, He's Dante's punk nephew. At the start of DMC4 Dante and Nero both try to one up each other (but it's clear Dante is holding back,) and by the end they both Respect each other.
d707db No.13682554
>>13682476
He's catered towards newcomers and most people don't want to put the training wheels back on their bike once they know how to ride it.
f279a4 No.13683241
>>13670233
>This is a fuck you to the fans
>I like it a lot
What the fuck is the logic in this? You're saying fuck you to the people you want to buy the game.
84a781 No.13683397
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>>13683241
The logic of liberals is basically non existent.
Don't try to comprehend their actions
9ecb86 No.13683646
I've never played a DMC game. I own a PS2, but will I need to play DMC 1 and 2 before I play 3?
8a519a No.13683685
>>13683646
Are these all based off real games? I recognize Hotline Miami, Katawa Shoujo, that one game I only know about from Cr1tikal, and Space Station 13.
18c7dd No.13683717
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>>13683646
You don't have to play any game before playing DMC3, although i'd recommend playing DMC1. It's great in its own right. Going back to it after playing DMC3 might be a bit tough though.
Devil May Cry 2 does not exist.
65868b No.13683927
>>13683685
There is also Sengoku Rance
Don't know what one is
>I wrote books that glorified Nazi Germany
47b362 No.13684039
6359cf No.13684315
>>13682476
His kit is extremely fucking basic if you cannot into Ex/Max Act, Table Hopper chaining, Charge shots, DT Guard, etc. So to someone unaware of all the teeny tiny mechanics he has, he seems a bit simplistic compared to Dante. And he is since he's straight up unfinished, like there's an entire section of DT upgrades just fucking cut.
5513db No.13685735
>>13683646
Each DMC game is a stand alone story so you can play them in any order and not be too confused since they rarely being up past events.
But if you do play them in release order you get to see how the gameplay evolves over the course of each game.
DMC 2 is skipable since it's just worse the DMC1 and it takes place at the end of the time line, Capcom has being ignoring it's existence since practically day 1.
403c6a No.13685948
>>13683646
You don't need to play either game before 3, but if you do decide to play 1, make sure you play it before playing 3 or 4. The combat of the latter two might make 1 hard to go back to otherwise.
But yeah, 1, 3 & 4 are all worth your time. 2 is skippable.
452e1f No.13685969
>>13669413
Well you're not wholly wrong. in the true cannon they are half-demon half-human.
where in dmc3 dante clings to his humanity where as vergil embraces his demon side (why he has access to his DT early in the game)
237f2e No.13686088
>>13682476
Yes, Nero IS garbage, he's basically a lame, effeminate, shit copy of Dante, i don't know what the fuck the developers were thinking
>Hey, what about introducing a new character in the DMC lore? Maybe a new protagonist, just to have a bit of novelty?
<Oh i had a great idea, think about this, a White haired half-demon teenager, wearing a trenchcoat and using a pair of guns and a huge sword to fight demons, how cool is that?
>Wow that's SO ORIGINAL, and not derivative at all, how did you get such a great idea!?
<Well… i got the inspiration from… somewhere…
Now regarding his abilities i think they should have given those to Dante and that's it, Nero is completely superfluous an redundant, it's like when in Sonic they started creating tons of different hedgehogs that looked EXACTLY like Sonic but with a different color.
When you do shit like that, you are simply shitting on the main character because he doesn't stand out anymore, once you fill the world with bad clones of him.
5513db No.13686133
>>13685969
>Where in DMC3 Dante clings to his humanity where as Vergil embraces his demon side.
That's one of the best parts of DMC3, Dante and Vergil are too sides of the same coin at the start of the game, They have something the other doesn't, but at the end of the game Dante wins because he learned to accept and embrace both his Humanity and his Demonic heritage, What makes him stronger then Vergil in the final fight is that Dante is fighting for more then just himself now.
Some people see Devil May Cry as just a dumb crazy action game, and it is to a certain extent, but there is more there then just Curraaazzzzy.
Like webm related. As bad ass as Dante is, there are a few times where you can see he is a genuinely kind person, and those are some of my favorite moments.
84a781 No.13686390
>>13686088
I had assumed Nero was part of the family, there were theories about him being Vergil's son or something.
5513db No.13686482
>>13686390
>him being Vergil's son
It been officially confirmed in the DMC 4 Art book that is the case (this shitty pic was thing I could find at the momment.) DMC4 just doesn't say it out right, so there's still some confusion for people who don't look it up
237f2e No.13686587
>>13686390
It doesn't matter the justification, if he's a relative or whatever, he's still an unnecessary clone character.
This also happens in comic books when at some point, artists and Writers lose their inspiration and lack ideas.
So you have a character (usually the main) with his specific look, traits and abilities, and part of his charm/appeal lies in the fact that stands out and he's unique.
Then at some point some retard with no ideas says:
>You know what? Let's take the main character and let's do:
>A female version fo him
>An evil version of him
>A younger version of him
>A demon version of him
>A cyborg version of him
>A kid-friendly version of him
>An alien version of him
And so on.
It's like adding water to a good wine, you won't end up with more wine, you are just spoiling the good wine left.
c67cc4 No.13686619
>>13686587
Nero isn't a "version of Dante" though, they pretty much have nothing in common besides blood ties. He's literally Vergil's son.
780dc8 No.13686622
>>13686587
stay mad faggot
he will always be better than donte
237f2e No.13686660
>>13686619
>Nero isn't a "version of Dante" though
By character design he is.
>>13686622
>t. underage who only played Dmc4 HD
I bet you like DmC as well.
Also stating the obvious is not being mad, but your reaction sure is.
>inb4 "muh hate :,("
c67cc4 No.13686689
>>13686660
>By character design he is.
How does that make him redundant? If looks were the problem, you'd cry about Vergil too, or wait, is a recolor and a slight haircut change enough for you to change page?
Then Nero shouldn't be a problem either.
Or wait:
>It doesn't matter the justification
You're an ESL retard that thinks his personal and nonsensical tastes matter.
5513db No.13686756
Nero was like another Raiden.
People wanted to play as Sanke/Dante but they were given some guy who isn't as badass, has girlfriend baggage, and where then forced to play as him for the majority of the game.
Some people dealt with it fine some people thought it was a load of shit that ruined the game.
237f2e No.13686810
>>13686689
>You're an ESL retard that thinks his personal and nonsensical tastes matter.
>You dislike something i like, therefore your opinion is nonsensical
Top notch reasoning there.
>How does that make him redundant? If looks were the problem, YOU'D CRY about Vergil too, or wait, is a recolor and a slight haircut change enough for you to change page?
Nobody is "crying" here kid, how come people like you think that whoever challenges your worldview is "crying" "mad" "hating" "butthurt" or some stupid shit like that?
feels like arguing with a libtard, grow up already.
First of all Vergil was there since DMC1, was supposed to be part of the story since day one and i am not saying anything about him.
Nero is redundant because he's a poor man version of Dante, who looks almost the same, dresses the same, uses the same weapons and he's boring as fuck.
There's no point in adding something "new" if new means a little variation of what was always there.
Some of his abilities were cool, but they could have simply implemented them as an addition to Dante's moves, no reason for a "new" character at all.
5513db No.13686916
>>13686810
While your critic of his character is hard to argue with, since DMC4 was my first DMC game Nero was great for me since he was a beginner friendly character, To be honest I was awful when I played as Dante in DMC4, I only able to gut gid when I went back and played DMC 1 and 3.
The biggest problem with Nero from what i'v seen is that the game forces you to play as him, DMC vets couldn't just play as Dante from the start.
But I suspect this problem happened because DMC4 is unfinished, it's probable they could only finished enough content for 1 character so in order to pad the game to 20 missions they put in the Dante back tracking. When you look at things like the Art book it's clear the was going to be allot more in DMC4.
c67cc4 No.13686940
>>13686810
>Top notch reasoning there.
You're clearly retarded. I'm saying your reasoning for disliking the character is nonsensical. If you had a point, people wouldn't shit on you. Instead, all you do is try to somehow make it seem like your faulty, contradictory perception actually means something.
>Nobody is "crying" here kid, how come people like you think that whoever challenges your worldview is "crying" "mad" "hating" "butthurt" or some stupid shit like that?
Being an ESL and all, you never knew that "crying" is a synonym to "whining", which is a synonym to "complaining", it's a mere fact that you're complaining right now, further proven by the other fact that you're biased and contradictory.
>First of all Vergil was there since DMC1, was supposed to be part of the story since day one and i am not saying anything about him.
Because you're a biased little shithead that can't keep up with his own reasoning and constantly backpedals.
>Nero is redundant because he's a poor man version of Dante
But he's not, you just accepted that here:
>>13686660
>who looks almost the same
He's his nephew and the son of Vergil, of course he'd resemble his father to some degree.
>dresses the same
No, they dress differently too. You have some shitty ass categories there, is it that he's "wearing clothes" that bothers you?
>uses the same weapons
No, that's still wrong, unless your categories are basically "ranged weapon" and "melee weapon".
>There's no point in adding something "new" if new means a little variation of what was always there.
Your same logic can deny sequels for DMC too.
>Some of his abilities were cool, but they could have simply implemented them as an addition to Dante's moves, no reason for a "new" character at all.
Dante could as well just have had Vergil's moveset too though.
237f2e No.13687215
>>13686940
Fisrt of all calm your tits, and put some preparation H up your ass, kiddo.
>If you had a point people wouldn't shit on you
by "people" you mean yourself right?
liberals, celebrities and media shit on nationalist too, it doesn't mean they are right nor that nationalists are wrong, therefore your "point" is retarded just like yourself.
>you are biased
I still think that Nero is shit and your "hurr durr ur a retard, stop sayin that fav character evah suck! :,,,(" didn't change my mind, so if you call that being biased i guess i am.
>and contradictory
>where?
>can't keep up with his own reasoning and backpedals
backpedals? do you even know what that means or do you think that's some ramdom word that makes you "win" an argument?
Also my reasoning is pretty simple, not my fault if you are dense as a motherfucker.
>nephew and son of vergil
who had no reason to exist, and added NOTHING of worth in the series.
>No they dress differently
"Nero's trenchcoat is purple and has a hood, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! >:("
>unless your categories are "ranged weapon" and "melee weapon"
doesn't matter if the sword is shaped differently or the guns are "not exactly the same" He still uses guns and a big sword and that's not enough to say "it'not a clone! it's totally different" like you are claiming.
>your same logic an deny sequels for DMC too
No because a sequel is, more or less, supposed to be an improved "more of the same" type of thing, if you change too much, might as well change the title and make another game.
>Dante could as well just had Vergil's moveset too though.
Yes, if Vergil didn't exist since the first game, at least they didn't gave him a pair of guns.
Now take your meds and go to bed, before that pulsing veins in your red face is going to explode.
cd728d No.13687396
>>13671507
After eating shit, even broccoli would taste like the best thing ever.
cd728d No.13687418
>>13686689
>>13686619
>>13686940
Get a load of this stupid faggot
>muh husbando <3
LMAO stay triggered nigger
8a519a No.13687423
>>13687215
Wait wait wait, anon. Do you take meds and have a red face?
84a781 No.13692566
The one major advantage Nero has over Dante is his crowd control moves. The game also seems to be better built around him than Dante.
0256f1 No.13702737
I've done it twice actually
84a781 No.13703394
>>13702737
Only twice anon?
561632 No.13703687
>>13670637
A snail-paced FPS with bad controls. Is this supposed to impress me? Literally the only reason people care about Prime is because Fusion came out at the same time and was even worse.
561632 No.13703690
>>13670736
The bosses really could have been better to be honest.