508fef No.13650600
http://archive.is/kammz
>It read like a declaration EA will move away from single-player experiences in favour of open-world or shared open-world games. It's what Manveer Heir said he saw happening firsthand there.
>"It's definitely a thing inside of EA," he said, "they are generally pushing for more open-world games. And the reason is you can monetise them better. The words in there that were used are 'have them come back again and again' [not quite but that's the gist - see above]. Why do you care about that at EA? The reason you care about that is because microtransactions: buying card packs in the Mass Effect games, the multiplayer. It's the same reason we added card packs to Mass Effect 3: how do you get people to keep coming back to a thing instead of 'just' playing for 60 to 100 hours?
>"The problem is that we've scaled up our budgets to $100m+ and we haven't actually made a space for good linear single-player games that are under that. But why can't we have both? Why does it have to be one or the other? And the reason is that EA and those big publishers in general only care about the highest return on investment. They don't actually care about what the players want, they care about what the players will pay for.
>"You need to understand the amount of money that's at play with microtransactions. I'm not allowed to say the number but I can tell you that when Mass Effect 3 multiplayer came out, those card packs we were selling, the amount of money we made just off those card packs was so significant that's the reason Dragon Age has multiplayer, that's the reason other EA products started getting multiplayer that hadn't really had them before, because we nailed it and brought in a ton of money. It's repeatable income versus one-time income.
<"I've seen people literally spend $15,000 on Mass Effect multiplayer cards."
>What we're seeing is a "cynical" chasing of the games making big money. "You've seen - what is BioWare's new franchise coming out?" he asked.
>"Anthem," the host duly answered.
>"Right," Heir said. "It's not a traditional-looking BioWare game, right? If that's what you're seeing from a place like BioWare, owned by EA, a place where I worked for seven years; if that's what you're seeing from Visceral now closing and going to this other Vancouver studio; what it means is that the linear single-player triple-A game at EA is dead for the time being."
Literally everything wrong with the industry is displayed right here and what we've been saying would happen for years, but of course nobody cared to listen then. The unholy trinity of game destruction: soulless corporations squeezing blood out of stones, subservient game devs caring nothing about the industry, and the very few 1-3% retarded whale fucktards ruining the games industry for the rest of us and completing the triangle of shit.
That bullshit saying of vote with your wallet means fucking NOTHING as it always did, we need to destroy this trinity through other means.
bc941f No.13650618
>Manveer Heir, Bioware's designated shitting employee, actually saying something of worth for once
Even a broken clock is right twice a day, I guess.
0810d7 No.13650620
I'm not really surprised considering how much money some "people" sunk into Shekel Citizen.
f1c8e9 No.13650663
>>13650600
A nice followup to the singleplayer games are dead article from a week ago.
>Today, Manveer Heir is getting his own indie studio off the ground, making a game about the war on drugs and destruction of black and brown communities in cities by white supremacy, he said. He's currently trying to raise funds for the project
heh. future sunset dev inbound
9e21f9 No.13650702
As soon as I saw a simulated loot box in the E3 "demonstration" of Anthem I knew it was going to be shit. What a shame too, I could have enjoyed a game about jetpacking around an open world.
bc941f No.13650726
>>13650663
Can't wait for the inevitable explosion on social media when he realizes no one gives a shit about his game.
dc271c No.13650762
>mfw I've spent $15 on vidya in the past 10 months
>that $15 was for my brother's birthday present
fc215f No.13650763
>>13650737
It's a trend that only people with two jobs will be able to play games.
9e3fd0 No.13650766
>>13650600
No, voting with your wallet works. You are just mad because you lost. Literally the "FRUG DOLAN DUMP" of the video game market.
3048fd No.13650801
>>13650766
This. What people don't really understand here is that representation isn't even when you vote with your wallet. Everybody doesn't get one vote. You didn't buy a $60 game? You just voted 60 times. The other guy spent $15,000 in microtransactions? He just voted 15,000 times. It takes 250 of you to beat out that one guy in the election.
8a127b No.13650814
>>13650801
I'm content to let the market correct itself. Just pirate everything.
dc271c No.13650819
>>13650702
I knew Anthem was shit as soon as I heard rumours of a new Bioware IP
4515ab No.13650827
Putting even more lootcrate/box bullshit in games is only going to make the AAA industry slowly die. The bubble on this shit will burst when most normalfags realize that they are literally getting nothing out of the fucking boxes, and they are better off straight up gambling.
>>13650663
>Poo in the Loo's next game is The Drug war is racist!!! Whitey made me do crack and steal!
What the hell is with street shitters trying to jump on the oppression train lately?
4c0914 No.13650832
>>13650737
Whales probably actually have autism, OCD or something missing from their life - friends, family, purpose. The kikes taking advantage of these people, bleeding them dry, are monsters.
bc941f No.13650844
>>13650827
>What the hell is with street shitters trying to jump on the oppression train lately?
American police aren't beating them regularly so they start to get uppity and think they're more important than they actually are.
f1c8e9 No.13650883
>>13650702
Very interesting how the journos are starting to ramp up their deflection game in time for a major release that incorporates lootboxes. That's forgetting about shadow of war, which was a singleplayer game with this lootbox/gacha shit. a similar system has also been confirmed to exist in xenoblade chronicles 2 with how the game doles out blades to the player. But it's somehow different this time, and completely defensible, because anthem is multiplayer. Lootboxes are the future.
"Don't not buy the game because it does something you don't like. Buy it" will the argument they make, and they'll reference this article or something similar saying how wrong it is. They need that cash flow.
3048fd No.13650893
>>13650832
I don't believe it. I don't have friends, family, or purpose in my empty shitty life either and you don't see me blowing cash on microtransactions and dying my hair blue because some twitch streamer did it.
dc271c No.13650904
>>13650893
You fill that whole with shitposting on a vietnamese sweatshop plauge though
90d9b2 No.13650919
>>13650737
>What the fuck is wrong with whales?
They're kinda like drug addicts and they'll lose everything in the end.
8a127b No.13650928
>>13650919
This is your brain on Vaisya morality.
bc941f No.13650930
>>13650893
There's no one specific set of conditions that turns someone into a whale, it's equal parts nature and nurture. I've seen autistic NEET shut-ins blow their monthly tugboat on CSGO and I've seen successful 30-somethings with too much money and not enough sense to consider the future blowing entire paychecks on Shark Cards and jpegs of ships.
399e0c No.13650969
>>13650663
>Today, Manveer Heir is getting his own indie studio off the ground, making a game about the war on drugs and destruction of black and brown communities in cities by white supremacy, he said. He's currently trying to raise funds for the project
Someone should make a game that features black supremacy, i.e. African warlord simulator. Featuring child soldiers, rape to cure AIDS, necklacing, genocide, eating albinos to get magic powers, etc. Bonus points for showing Ghandhi quotes on niggers. Extra bonus points for outselling Manveeg Heel
ee0acb No.13650989
>>13650969
Don't forget burning witches, using funny names to scare death, wearing female clothing to confuse bullets, wearing bright orange lifevests to ward off danger on the battlefield, cracking skulls of bald men open because you believe there is gold inside, etc.
Extra extra bonus points if you include a level set in India where Heir has to swim through the shit infested waters of their holy river, dodging dead bodies, excrement, children, trash, etc.
1eaf5a No.13651007
>> http://store.steampowered.com/app/427470/Democracy_3_Africa/
the comments on that one are amazing kek
mfw it was possible to cheat easy in mass effect 2 to get money for loot cards
3490c4 No.13651082
>>13650737
they're addicts plain and simple, if it wasn't vidya it'd be something else like gambling or drinking or playing with tabletop wargames
0418b9 No.13651102
I've personally seen people spend tens of thousands per week on mobile games, so this doesn't even register as a surprise to me. As OP mentioned it's why I don't believe in the whole 'vote with your wallet' thing anymore, not when all it takes is a few stupid people with very large wallets.
655f13 No.13651108
>>13650737
Whats wrong with them? Whats wrong with them?
>They fucking adapted and wear the label whale
>They fucking know its a slang for gambling addict
>They are fucking gambling addicts
>Literally every brag they make is a cry out for help
Uh... everything?
64ca0d No.13651114
>>13650600
We need to stop calling games like this "games." They are just points of sale for EA. They aren't even built for a real gamer experience.
1eaf5a No.13651118
0a4a31 No.13651122
>>13650663
>making a game about the war on drugs and destruction of black and brown communities in cities by white supremacy
Huh. Where have I very recently seen this?
b11b18 No.13651126
>>13650737
how many of them are rich or have rich parents?
8a127b No.13651135
>>13651122
>niggers voluntarily consume drugs
>it be the white man's fault
I'd at least have some sympathy if they tried to go all boxer rebellion about it and clean up their streets, but nope, they glorify in it.
a5fe92 No.13651151
>>13650930
In this far too accommodating world we live in, shitty people are able to procreate easily, and they always create more shitty people.
b11b18 No.13651167
>>13651153
but if theres replayability with no microtransactions or lootboxes, they wont get money from you after you buy the game unless theres a subscription
the goal is money, anon
and subversion, but that can be a different thread
e645bc No.13651172
>>13650600
>That bullshit saying of vote with your wallet means fucking NOTHING
Year after year, this is what looks like.
When a company is too big, it doesnt matter you or others dont buy it while x100 buy. Especillay in EA case were it has enough money to kill off every company that doesnt profit well, getting another one as replacement or investing more into one that managed to hit a jack pot.
The "vote with your wallet" is only effective on small to medium studios, that doesnt have enough blood bags to stay alive in case of a boycott or when it bleeds out money.
>Gambling
Wasnt there a legal move to apply this to vidya, for lootbox at the moment ?
265fa6 No.13651177
>>13650600
>how do you get people to keep coming back to a thing instead of 'just' playing for 60 to 100 hours?
MAKE A GOOD GAME WITH REPLAYABILITY DICKWAD!
Accept that people will only play a single player game for X amount of hours before either :
>beating the main story/roll credits
>aiming for 100% level/quest/whatever completion
>getting bored/stuck and moving to a new game
Fuck's sake, Animal Crossing on the GCN kept me coming back day after day, just by having new things happen in my town each day (Eg: new items in Nook's store, fruit growing on trees, traveling character visit, daily fossil finding, special event day, new season with new bugs/fish to catch, etc). I may have only played for roughly under an hour each day but that was over a year. That version of AC didn't even have online unlike it's sequels and I think it's keep the player coming back each day for something new works better than some trashy F2P/P2W whale hunting social/mobile games we see that just involve slowing players progress down until they cough up money to make it go faster.
You may think, oh that only applies to AC right? Well, key team members went on to make Splatoon, a multiplayer online shooter that has similar design elements of keep the player coming back each day for something new in that as well (in game stores change hat/shirts/shoes every day, ordering gear off other players can only be picked up the next day). With those you come back each day, buy/pick up gear and maybe play a few rounds of Turf War following it. Even Splatfests events roughly every 3 weeks and Splatoon 2's Salmon Run PvE mode which can only be played at certain times could also be seen as a way for players to keep coming back while also ensuring that there is enough of them online at one moment instead of being spread out.
508fef No.13651198
The whales need to be killed, but we can't do anything about it because the only ones who know who these whales are would be payment service providers and the ones who feed their addiction. The only way this can get mitigated is by tweaking gambling laws, they should be enforced and applied to video games.
a5fe92 No.13651200
>>13651153
Don't you think it would be a more immersive, and fulfilling experience if you had to spend more money every time you played, though? Come, anon, you don't seriously feel complete without our new, just released, exclusive, members only primetime limited edition platinum ultra dragon born supplies not lasting squirrel skin hat download, do you? Only $20,000!!!
254335 No.13651222
>vote with your wallet
>we are free to use our the money how we please
>it doesn't affect you
>I can afford it so who cares?
Every time I see someone using those phrase to defend this shit I just wish Israel isis could actually get a good target for the bombs
0a4a31 No.13651232
>>13651222 (checked)
I doubt any of those sentences are representative of whales anon. It's an entirely different mindset for entirely different purchases.
13434f No.13651233
Heir's right about that though.
Fucking assholes keep paying for multiplayer.
14b0b2 No.13651236
>>13650600
Whales exist and will continue to do so. Only way I see of fixing things is to make the perfect game for whales and make sure they're all fixated on that single game, once one game gets the lion's share of the whale market share other whale games will no longer be profitable to create.
>>13650737
I met one once. His millionaire relative died and he inherited it all with the house. He moved his girlfriend in and the two of them spent a shitload of money attempting to be the first for whatever they could in the game. It seemed he was seeking some sort of achievement in his life, along with general inexperience with large sums of money.
b306dd No.13651263
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Companies that run various Facebook games and other whale milking shit will tweak their entire game just to accommodate a single whale so that they will spend more money. Entire sets of cosmetics are sometimes crafted for one specific person to buy with an exorbitant price tag, because the metrics knows this one person can and will afford it.
Ironically, our only hope is governments stepping in to recognize that this is gambling and cracking down on the games industry. Voting with your wallet only works to a certain extent and the whales have really big wallets.
f08dc3 No.13651282
>>13651263
Just remove neetbux and the magic of free market will fix it (by driving them to suicide). People should be allowed to use their own money in self-destructive ways.
40ed7a No.13651288
>>13651232
Sadly it is. I have a couple of shitty mobile games for when I'm on the loo at work and you see those kind of things being said seriously from people that have VIP levels. It's this our future where money doesn't have value for those idiots and think we all have a singular bubble that doesn't affect someone in some way
b306dd No.13651293
>>13651282
These are not neets. We're talking Arabian oil billionaries spending thousands to get their favourite football teams jerseys in Clash of Clans or some other stupid shit.
8a127b No.13651298
>>13651263
>Ironically, our only hope is governments stepping in to recognize that this is gambling and cracking down on the games industry
More likely the games industry will step in and interfere in the government.
f08dc3 No.13651311
>>13651293
Why should government step in to regulate how rich people waste their money either?
b11b18 No.13651325
>>13651311
because that spending affects people who aren't rich and aren't profiting off of them
f08dc3 No.13651339
>>13651325
In the context of this discussions, you need to explain why any effect of someone's wasteful spending in video games matters at all.
8b92d5 No.13651347
Isn't the European Union considering making this shit illegal?
It's so weird to talk about Europe like it's a single county
40ed7a No.13651379
>>13651339
>I will cut the game and sell it 5 times as microdlc
>rich people buy all of it
>poor people don't
>poor people now have a game cut of its content to have more coin in the jew purse
8a127b No.13651382
>>13651347
You won't need to do it for long.
e1d96b No.13651426
I propose a better solution to the Whale Question: instead of killing them, because that's unlikely to happen and criminal, why don't we make a containment game that exclusively targets whales? They no longer give money to these shit studios, /v/irgins get rich, and studios are actually freed up to make good games again.
We just have to make the whale game to end all whale games…
265fa6 No.13651445
>>13650737
Whales have a problem similar to a gambling addict, the difference is they don't have to leave the house and go to a casino/Vegas to discover if they have it.
>With casino's most people would leave after physically making their wallets lighter from emptying them on the casino games and then go home. If it became an addiction problem the casino guards could stop them from entering. (Admittedly they could use a credit card, but the general recommendation with gambling is to just use a set amount of real money and leave once you spend it all).
>F2P games just need your credit card (not physical money with weight to it) and can be played on your PC or cellphone (and who doesn't have a either?). In your own home with no travel time and no guards stopping you from entering if you tell them you have a problem.
508fef No.13651457
>>13651426
We have no idea what those addicts seek in a game besides cosmetics and premium items. They clearly don't want to play a good game, just a popular game, so making the best whale game might be unattainable. This needs government intervention, it's better if game communities put their efforts in getting this shit noticed and get gambling laws to apply on the games industry,
a2e5b4 No.13651461
>>13650618
Remember he called out Microsoft on Twitter for the Xbones always online jewery.
621901 No.13651467
>>13651311
They should regulate scam practices not how people spend their money. That's like saying it's alright to scam people because they know about it.
ee0acb No.13651487
>>13651311
Because it's ruining vidya for the rest of us. These mentally ill freaks of nature that can't control themselves ruin everything they touch, not just games. Their inability to control themselves makes the rest of society suffer because we get all collectively punished because of them.
6fb289 No.13651519
>>13651457
A basic game shitty mmo game with a neural network shitting out the next tier of raids once one is ended.
The same shit for mobile click shit and others.
Just endless computer generated crap.
Recolours, cheap additions to existing designs, premium items, stats increases … all of that a computer can shit out.
Every time they think they are at the top of the bully chain, the next week there is a hundred other items to buy.
Nearly no game-play but just congratulations menus when you now beat your previous record in farting.
Even better, make them aware of it, and make the AI react to purchases in a certain direction so that they will even spend more in order to influence it, and never reach their dream of perfection.
Think about no-mans sky but with micro-transactions. 18 quintillion items to purchase.
Oh and before you think that's impossible, there is already somewhere on the internet an AI shitting creepy flash-games out at an alarming rate.
It's just the next step on whaling.
e1d96b No.13651521
>>13651519
>a skinner box to end all skinner boxes
Outjew the Jew.
56ba5e No.13651646
>>13650801
>>13650600
I think this problem will eventually solve itself. Take a good look at the trend these studios are following. They specialize their game more and more for microtransactions and repeatable purchases. Eventually all of their games will either be MMOs or have MMO subscription models even if they aren't MMOs.
>But what if they "get it right" and strike the perfect balance of effort and behavioral theory
Then they've made a proper successor to EverQuest, good for them. That will be very difficult with so many competitors and without the advantage of novelty that EQ had.
The real bottom line here is that this level of specialization segregates the market. People who play Candy Crush Saga are not the same people who complete Fallout 1 several times to get all the endings, we know this. That's a good thing; if we can't crash the whole market, segregation is nearly as good. We are not being replaced, we're just being turned into a minority (yes, I know this looks funny if you browse /pol/, but I'm talking about something different here; even nonwhites have good taste in vidya occasionally). We are going to receive our own niche market which hopefully becomes even more segregated.
4d9525 No.13651676
>>13650737
Within the United States, this a cut-off at about $70,000 - more or less, depending on if you live in an urban coastal shithole or a rural paradise - but at which point an extra income you have is pretty much redundant to your ability to maintain a place to live, food to eat, ways to transport yourself, clothing, and general entertainment, all at the absolute maximum capacity.
People with incomes over this mark have a few choices. The first one is to invest the money, so they can eventually retire early, or ensure that the costs for their children are all taken care of. The second is to put it to charity, or otherwise do something to become a contributing member to society. The third is to waste that shit on pretty much anything that comes up on a whim.
The vast majority of whales are college graduates with degrees in shit like computer science and petroleum engineering. They're smart enough to do all of the course work and get a job, and now they have a bunch of money. Except since their university tracks never showed them how to use that money responsibility, they're literally in the same tier as professional sports players and lottery winners - they've got a pool of money they have no idea how to do anything with. If they had as much practical sense as they do tech skills, they might actually put that surplus income to use. But will they? Nope.
508fef No.13651776
>>13651646
>We are going to receive our own niche market which hopefully becomes even more segregated.
This is one of the possible future that I wouldn't mind, but it's going to take a long while until we get there. Right now there's very few games for our market, indie games are most of the time uncreative crap and shit like Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice is too pretentious for my liking.
e436b5 No.13651826
IT'S MANQUEER
>Today, Manveer Heir is getting his own indie studio off the ground, making a game about the war on drugs and destruction of black and brown communities in cities by white supremacy, he said. He's currently trying to raise funds for the project.
should be good
e4dc4f No.13651985
>>13651826
Time to see if he has a pajeetreon.
0cc736 No.13652008
>>13651826
Sadly I expect it to make tons on kickstarter, either not come out, or come out and be shit, sell nothing, and get hyped by jounos anyway.
0268b8 No.13652197
Of all things, what is there even in Mass Effect to spend so much money on? I'd assume that it couldn't possibly have enough locked content that you wouldn't unlock the lot after at most a thousand bucks. Even stuff like CS and TF2 that have extreme rarities, you'd have enough to trade for anything you could want after a certain amount, surely. I haven't played anything since the first game, what does the multiplayer even have in it that even the most impulsive person in the world couldn't achieve at fifteen thousand bucks? What game could ever have something worth that much?
3e63ea No.13652238
>>13651236
>ass hole inherits millions of dollars
>spends it on microtransactions for vidya achievements that mean nothing
I can only take solace knowing that he'll be poor again soon enough. Fucking idiots man.
c04834 No.13652380
>>13651222
I never thought whales would ever say something like "vote with your wallet"…
3547d7 No.13652400
>>13652197
>What game could ever have something worth that much?
Star Citizen
e9bd04 No.13652418
>>13651198
>The only way this can get mitigated is by tweaking gambling laws, they should be enforced and applied to video games.
THIS
b7b325 No.13652438
Vote with your wallet only works if you take away nor mies' wallets.
58d2f2 No.13652487
>>13650827
>What the hell is with street shitters trying to jump on the oppression train lately?
They thought it would be a good idea to abolish currency about a year ago. Now they have no economy anymore.
bbff81 No.13652505
>>13650737
It's like with Casinos, except they made sure that everything is warmly colored so that you're not spending real currency but fake monopoly money you still buy with real currency and still get something out of the experience in the end, regardless of whether you win or lose at the game. Also it's literally slot machines and premium content at everyone's doorstep instead of having to move to a different location.
58d2f2 No.13652517
>>13652505
The only thing that makes slots fun is the crowd and atmosphere of the casino floor. I can't understand that kind of compulsive personality that would do it from home.
2fb22f No.13652523
>>13650663
Yeah, "white supremacy" makes those communities go to shit.
508fef No.13652541
>>13652505
It's even worse because at casinos you at least have a chance to win something of value, in games everything you win inside them is literally worthless.
30a5aa No.13652613
>>13650904
This. Shitposting made me the man I am today.
40b777 No.13652656
>>13650737
Also consolefags who have no concept of Cheat Engine or torrenting.
d0aa40 No.13652680
>>13651461
you know what they say. if you can't beat em, join em
8e9e88 No.13652732
AAA games are the Transformers and Star Wars of games anyway.
Nothing of value is lost and fools will continue to be parted from their money.
c913b2 No.13652748
>>13652732
The meat of star wars is not the movies, but the games. I'll always think this no matter how hard people try to jerk off the original trilogy.
f24052 No.13652765
Open-world in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing, it doesn't have to be targeted at fucking your wallet. Look at Morrowind, it's one of the best TES games ever made, it's open world but a very focused open world. To get around said world they give you three modes of transportation, or you can choose to walk it. If you choose to walk it, they've given you 9 ways to enhance the speed at which you move, including a pair of boots that make you run like Sanic (it even synchs up with the meme that if you move faster than light you have to live in darkness, since the boots of blinding speed make the world look dark).
Consider a 2 square mile play area that's a dense modern urban setting. Multiple layers, stairs, buildings that go up sheer. It doesn't have to be a shite game, because you CAN map out a play area that's dense and focused. Assassin's Creed 1 did open world fairly well, urban places in the game were dense, and it was like a real place (I suppose based on historical data you could see it as a real place). Now imagine an entire game world in a modern Metropolis with that kind of density everywhere at say 5-10 square miles. It'd be easy enough to focus the player's attentions on the appropriate areas for missions, but give them full range to explore however much of the city they like.
ef1197 No.13652767
>tfw brother is a whale (both in terms of games and real life)
>he actually spent upwards of 2 grand on a retarded mobile game (game of fire: war age or something like that) over a period of a year
<i've probably spent around $900 on video games for the past 7 years
f24052 No.13652794
>>13652767
The only appropriate answer to this: MULTI-TRACK DRIFTING.
4c843e No.13652804
>>13650600
Dubs speak the truth, anon, and that's just the beginning. There's a company called "Scientific Revenue" out there which has developed a plugin to put into mobile games which basically tracks what the player is doing in-game (like duration of play, intensity of engagement, level and location in game, wallet spend, etc) and then adjusts the pricing of the game's in-app purchases to fit that player's profile. The result: people with different profiles get to see different prices for the same in-app purchase.
Right now, this technology is being introduced to mobile games, but after all them loot crates in them AAAs, it's only a matter of time before our single player games are "online only" for a "reason". When that happens (maybe next year, I'm certainly watching out for it now), I would like to see big warning stickers on the game's case saying, "Biohazard: online only because Dynamic Pricing(R). We data mine you while you play to gouge you even better". But that's just wishful thinking.
Of all people, Jim Sterling (of who I am not really a fan) put out a recent video on it (after being pointed to it by an anon dev). You can also go to the Scientific Revenue website and watch their vile "How it works" IAP movie there. It contains gems such as, and I shit you not, "turning players into payers" and "So why offer the same prices to everyone all the time?" Indeed, why offer the same prices to everyone all the time? What, you have a conscience? Morals? Winners don't use those :^). Welcome to the future, welcome to Dynamic Pricing(R).
ef1197 No.13652810
>>13652767
also, here's a key detail
>when he did this he was like 16
>this means the amount he was able to spend was pennies than if he was an independent adult with a job
>this means that assuming he was an independent adult with a job he would probably have spent much much more on a stupid flash-tier mobile game
Not to mention he "borrowed" 100 dollars from me to buy two fake IDs and then get caught like a few weeks later with one of them and then get caught three fucking times trying to buy/abuse alcohol, WHILE DRIVING
f24052 No.13652821
>>13652804
>people with different profiles get to see different prices for the same in-app purchase.
And of course there's that one patent that Activision just got that allows them use an algorithm to pressure players into buying items to compete.
f822d1 No.13652843
>Getting rid of your diversity hires
WHATS next EA shaking hands with orange hitler?
SMHFAMALAM
000000 No.13652858
>>13651263
It's actually worse than gambling, because you're literally getting nothing in return. This is part of why the idea of copyright and intellectual property needs to die: the meme that rearranged patterns of bits on your hard drive is someone else's "property" unless cash was exchanged.
The psychology behind gambling and microtranscations is largely the same, but at least in gambling, there's a (deliberately minimized) chance that you can come out ahead. In microtransactions, you are, without exaggeration, throwing your money away.
000000 No.13652874
>>13651339
It leads to shitty games and a worse industry, where half the games I think might be cool end up ruined by loot boxes. That's reason enough for me. Worshipping at the altar of self-interest goes both ways, you fucking lolbert.
32b28a No.13652879
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>>13652804
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa
its real.. ffs
4c843e No.13652896
Whoops, forgot dubs picture. Sorry OP!
>>13652821
Yeah, and why not combine Dynamic Pricing with the Acti patent? You are deliberately pitted against better players to get rekt, which motivates you to an in-app purchase… at just the right fucking price for you thanks to all that data mining in the background.
I am not getting on that ride.
4b2621 No.13652903
>>13652896
Reminds me of GTA V
c913b2 No.13652908
>>13652896
>I am not getting on that ride.
I doubt anyone on this board is, considering it's Activision and they don't put out anything that interests anyone here.
32eb10 No.13652911
>>13650600
>Gameplay designer Manveer Heir
Opinion discarded.
bf6f2c No.13652915
>>13650600
>completing the triangle of shit.
its a business, not a charity, goy.
f24052 No.13652946
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>>13652911
DESIGNATED SHITTING STREETS
dfeedc No.13652987
>>13650919
>>13650620
>>13651095
Are you lads ready for this years ScamCon, the annual event where they celebrate the time they haven't released a game?
4c843e No.13652994
>>13652908
Dunno. What if a company/dev anons do like buys the right to use the patent and pays Acti some royalties? Also, if Acti doesn't want to play ball, Scientific Revenue will; it's their bread and butter. Either one or both looks like cancer to me.
f24052 No.13653014
>>13652994
The only game company I like is FromSoftware, and their President/CEO hates that kind of business practice. The worst "offense" they do is they make DLC, but I love their company so I'm cool with them so long as they don't try to microtransaction everything.
3547d7 No.13653027
>>13652821
>>13652804
>"Hey, anon, I see you just got killed many times by that player. Why don't you enhance your performance with our brand new product that perfectly counters his build? 90% off if you buy it during the next twenty seconds, this is a one-time offer just for you, don't miss it you fucking faggot"
000000 No.13653028
f24052 No.13653038
>>13653027
They would add that fucking faggot thing as a form of reverse psychology, right? They psyche you out to make sure you know that the text box is "one of you?"
3547d7 No.13653060
Also reminder that Grindframe already does this sort of shit, giving you sale on in-game currency where the percentage off depends on how long ago you bought the last time and such. Literally trying to addict you by giving you massive discount at first, then slowly lowering that discount bit by bit, knowing that you'll hit a high in their shitty game built on grinding since suddenly, you'll buy shit that'll quadruple your DPS
092f18 No.13653115
>>13650726
>Outcastes
>Latrine cleaners
I think I now know why India hates using toilets so much.
e56c38 No.13653120
>>13650600
>That bullshit saying of vote with your wallet means fucking NOTHING as it always did
Are you pretending to be stupid or is it a talent that comes to you naturally?
Stupid people will consume stupidity. Did you just found out that theh kardashians exist? "Voting with your wallet" means not only are you not forced to fund something you don't want, but you also send a message to goods/services providers that you like their products.
Concerning yourself with EA trash and acting like it affects you in any way is like a child throwing a tantrum.
>b-b-b-but they are making money
At the expense of retards. Do you care if the SJW circle are having good fun with videogames now?
>b-b-b-but it affects me somehow
No it doesn't, if it did, niche games would stop being produced altogether. Nier: Automata and Persona 5 are a fewexamples of extremely niche products that defy the current status quo but still succeed, precisely because people are voting with their wallets
>Manveer Heir
Of all the people who have walked on this earth, this is the guy whose oppinion you are concerned about? He made shitty games for a shitty company, got fired because not even their whales would consue his shit, and now he is butthurt about losing his job. It's a den of snakes eating each other, but Oh "I literally can't stop sucking cocks" Pee is worried about one of the snakes getting the long end of the stick.
4b2621 No.13653138
>>13653120
>if it did, niche games would stop being produced altogether.
Well, they kinda stopped being produced in plenty of genres due to their base developers catering to retards
4c843e No.13653143
>>13653014
Iseeyouarealsoamanofculteredtaste.png
You may add CD Projekt Red to that shortlist. However, company management isn't static and you know, the funny thing about cancer… once it takes root, it spreads.
>>13653027
>"Hey son, I see you just ran out of ammo in this high stakes FPS game. Sure, you could get rekt now but for one measly dollar, I could get you an instant refill. Interested? Click right away, but next time it'll be two bucks… bitch"
>>13653060
Well blow me, it's already here. Thanks for the heads up, anon.
000000 No.13653151
>>13653120
I don't want non-lootbox games to be niche. Read the thread.
c913b2 No.13653166
>>13652994
You raise a point, but wouldn't it be a safe bet to assume anyone who wants to use such a patent is most likely a shit publisher or developer? Most likely they're the ones who could afford such a deal anyways.
d0aa40 No.13653169
>>13653138
niche games are still around. they're just catering to people with money and gambling addictions instead of people with piracy addictions and upturned noses at anything above the price of free
78c5ff No.13653181
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. People literally spend $15,000 on Mass Effect multiplayer cards. I watched people dumping their life savings into unfinished scam project. All those moments will be lost in time, like shekels in oven. Time to kike.
4b2621 No.13653193
>>13653169
I don't see any of those around the Stealth genre other than Styx 2, and before that there was a 4 year period
Almost a console generation
Your example doesn't work with the "extremely niche products", but with mere weeaboo products that always are in-demand
e9cade No.13653211
the jews are getting out of fucking control man. Imagine PC/console video games being turned into what is now the mobile pay-to-win repulsive terrible cashgrab games cancer industry
e56c38 No.13653237
>>13653138
I'd dispute this claim. We have as many niche games as we have always had. If not more. The one point I'll concede is that localisation has had a turn for the worst. But it's not like consumers of weeb games are new to censorship or controversies, so even back then things were not a sea of roses.
Even so voting with your wallets still work. We saw Persona 5 pave the way for other devs to make the connection: shitty localisation=less sales.
>>13653151
I used niche games as an example. No one is forcing you to eat shit, so why do you care if someone is paying 15,000 to eat premium shit? Also, why do you care if games you like are popular or not? You are looking for a controversy to rage on and a boogeyman to blame. I heard two news recently
>Manveer Heir is out of work
>Idiots pay ludicrous prices to play bad games
And both bring a smile to my face. Instead of calling for some undescriptive "action" to be taken, you should laugh and play and pay for games you like.
The sky is falling, normalfags play bad games and *GASP* pay for them
I don't care a single bit if EA releases one, ten or a thousand more bad games. And neither should you.
e56c38 No.13653249
>>13653237
Forgot to add:
The one thing you and everybody else here should do to EA is
point and laugh
4b2621 No.13653266
>>13653237
>We have as many niche games as we have always had
Obviously considering the time/emulation means, but in terms of influx i seriously doubt your sanity or knowledge about genres if you claim that
Then again i'm using far away examples, so i guess you are not wrong, not entirely at least
092f18 No.13653285
>>13651311
Because it encourages developers to create their game based around the freemium model, which leads to garbage games that would've been just fine if the model wasn't encouraged and they were developed as normal full price games. AirMech, Mech Warrior Online, Hawken, Firefall, ABP: Reloaded, and Blacklight: Retribution are some examples I've personally experienced, and I'm sure there are many more examples.
f651d8 No.13653302
You goys simply don't see the economical benefits of scamming money out of dumb rich people. Dumb people can't properly contribute to the economy, so it's our moral obligation to redistribute their money into more deserving hands, one that actually contributes to our economy.
c913b2 No.13653309
>>13653285
Warframe.
Oh man if warframe was built from the ground up a singleplayer game.
78c5ff No.13653321
>>13653302
>redistribute
Oh look, a commie.
f651d8 No.13653337
>>13653321
How can I be a commie if I am encouraging capitalism? I am simply saying that draining the money from people who don't deserve it into the hands of people who actually produce capital is a natural process.
4b2621 No.13653344
>>13653309
>if most games were built from the ground up as singleplayer games.
a395a8 No.13653348
>>13653038
I would not be surprised at all if they started doing shit like that.
e56c38 No.13653357
>>13653266
I was talking agout influx. But for the sake of argument maybe i'm wrong. Mostly because I was considering indies bot self- and crowd-funded. Still niche games are there if you look for them, with a good improvement in quality and not only in quantity. How likelly would a senran kagura game be in the 90's, and to become a multiplat series at that.
Maybe I'm too much of an optimist. But since I stopped caring about what ubishit and the like released year after year, and just played what I enjoyed instead, internet banter has become a lot more foolish. I can still enjoy hate threads though. Serves as a reminder for people who may be still doubtfull of the true face of triple A gaming.
Actually, in retrospect, maybe this is exactly what this thread should serve as. In which case, carry on autists of the world!
4b2621 No.13653421
>>13653357
I'm in the same wagon as you, but if anything because i quitted for a couple of years and just concentrated in playing old gold
If there WAS an advantage to this arid game era is that collecting came as viable way to keep playing, until retroscumbags started scalping men and children alike, and individuals like trustful collectors and even Superbus disappeared
While in the genres i like i only see literal chink shovelware and just non-existent productions.
But in recent years i have seen plenty of cool stuff come out which i didn't suspect around 2013 or so, your theory is right in not so niche or highly weeaboo games, and hell even stealth if we go by mobile and shovelware.
c913b2 No.13653435
>>13653344
I remember all the hullabaloo they were making for Firefall.
Then I played it.
Worst part is that underneath all that bullshit Warframe could be so unbelievably good.
4c843e No.13653454
>>13653166
I'd like to say yes, but compare current game releases with the past. Pre-orders, Season Passes, DLC… they are pretty much "tame" and "standard" for the entire industry currently; that wasn't the case in the past. It's the whole "boiling the frogs by slowly raising the temperature" thing. They're raising the temperature a notch again with loot crates, and - in the future, possibly - Dynamic Purchasing(R). In, what, 5 years maybe, this stuff will become standard and new nightmares will be introduced - making us think the previous ones are tame.
I don't know what to do other than not to buy any of these games (and certainly not do the DSP thing and buy Shadow of War, but boycot the loot boxes - what a complete idiot :^), and stay with the classics. Maybe look out for products from small, startup, still honest devs (Acid Wizards with Darkwood, for example).
Also, some regulation might be nice to force devs to at least disclose all these practices, if they use them, "on the box" and detail precisely how they work. Got loot boxes? Then dish out exact percentages for each kind of thing you can get. If only for them to say "Look, we told you so right there, don't cry now that you spent $60 + $140 on our glorious product".
As for Dynamic Purchases(R), I can't wait for a photo showing poor little Timmy who has to pay $20 for a rifle upgrade on his iPad and next to him rich little Ronny who only has to pay $5 for the same upgrade because Timmy played the game much more intensely than Ronny and thus the algorithm knows Timmy's thirst for the upgrade is much bigger. Ought to be fun.
655f13 No.13653489
>>13651445
If i understand your statements well, than the mafia driven casino owners litereally care more about someones mental health and try to stop them to hit the bottom, than the greedy pay-to-win gamedevs. Holy shit, this is the craziest timeline!
78c5ff No.13653545
>>13653337
>Hello, fellow capitalists! How about we redistribute money from rich, erm, I mean, "dumb rich" people to people who contribute to our economy, such as niggers on welfare
d0986f No.13653568
>>13653489
One is regulated by law, the other one probably never will be.
655f13 No.13653581
>>13653545
>>13653545
You mix capitalism with nepotism. Capitalism didn't care about your class. If you too dumb for the money, it will drain from you…
97a183 No.13653593
>>13653581
There's capitalism and there's mercantilism you fucking yid.
eb2365 No.13653613
>people can only spend their money how we want them to!
Thankfully nobody on /v/ will ever be in any position to dictate policy.
ee0acb No.13653621
>>13653309
Actually, Warframe was initially supposed to be a sequel to a mediocre TPS called Dark Sector, but the deal eventually fell through and the developers had to reinvent the game and recycle the assets, and that's how you get modern Warframe.
4b2621 No.13653650
>>13653613
t. Moshe Shekel
e9cade No.13653671
>>13653613
>normalfags can ruin video games however they want to
okay, and I want normalfags to die
ee0acb No.13653674
>>13653613
>let's prey on the mentally ill for profit
Oy vey!
a7d919 No.13653682
>>13651549
I think they're talking about crack cocaine, not Dudeweed. The CIA supposedly introduced it in the cities, and they like to think it was targeting them specifically.
4d764f No.13653689
>>13653674
What's wrong with forcing natural selection on retards? Do you want to help those people propagate their shitty mental attitude into the future?
ee0acb No.13653707
>>13653689
It's not really natural selection though, it just enables greedy kikes to get more rich and more brazen in their kikery.
>Do you want to help those people propagate their shitty mental attitude into the future?
All that will come from this is that publishers will smell the shekel and try to fuck us all in the ass without lube.
aa605f No.13653714
>>13653707
They've already been doing that for a decade though
a95767 No.13653718
>>13653674
EA's games would be preying on the mentally retarded even without this kind of stuff, since they're the only people who would buy EA games.
ee0acb No.13653729
>>13653714
And, in your opinion, have things become better or worse?
4d764f No.13653747
>>13653707
Sometimes using something malicious can help your population in the long term. Cancer mostly manifests in already genetic failures of sorts, AIDS is endemic to fags and junkies and so forth. Maybe it can be you reeling in the profits as opposing to kikes if you play your cards right and then you can be the one deciding what to do with the money you got from worthless faggots. Start slow, work your way up kind of deal. Besides, publishers already do exactly that.
ee0acb No.13653779
>>13653747
I'm all for retards suffering the consequences of their own actions. I am not, however, all that enamored with such outcomes when they hurt me too. This is the DLC shitshow all over again. Publishers see they can make a lot of money by tearing their games into tiny little pieces and we come to the current year +2 in all it's Jewish glory.
d51eef No.13653888
>>13650600
>1-3% retarded whale fucktards
<"I've seen people literally spend $15,000 on Mass Effect multiplayer cards."
One whale offsets 250 people not buying the game at $60.
HOW TO KILL WHALES?
HOW TO KILL WHALES?
HOW TO KILL WHALES?
HOW TO KILL WHALES?
HOW TO KILL WHALES?
HOW TO KILL WHALES?
34bfc0 No.13653922
the solution is easy. release free cheats for games that price gouge. this will make the game unplayable and nobody will buy lootcrates or w/e
d51eef No.13654019
>>13650737
It's a mental illness, like hearing voices or addiction to slot machines.
ee0acb No.13654087
>>13653922
Most modern games have no cheats. You need third party programs to edit data.
3872df No.13654245
>>13651426
>and criminal
hahahahaha
5b77a7 No.13654250
>>13653888
>those trips
>this post
My god, the japs were right all along, we must kill the whales.
fe0e85 No.13654269
>>13650737
>tfw you never spent two grand on Guitar Hero
8fa7c2 No.13654356
>>13653454
I don’t see how the Dynamic bullshit could really spread to the “mainstream” of PC/consoles. Unlike mobile games I think that a lot more discussion goes around about game content, meaning it would get really obvious to people if they’re changing prices.
52d501 No.13654599
>>13650969
>>Today, Manveer Heir is getting his own indie studio off the ground, making a game about the war on drugs and destruction of black and brown communities in cities by white supremacy, he said. He's currently trying to raise funds for the project
That actually sounds like it could be fun. Like you play "the white man", and your job is to assess the different minority communities and find their weaknesses - then introduce factors like alcohol, crack, BET, and welfare in order to sabotage and oppress them - turning peaceful, productive, and upwardly mobile citizens into criminal ghetto trash.
78c5ff No.13654664
>>13654599
>pic
Everything is wrong with this RPG.
0e8065 No.13654789
>>13650737
A friend of mine has a family member (I think an aunt?) who has like 3 actually retarded kids. She gets money from the government for them. She also was constantly on the verge of losing her house and had totalled her car a few times, so my friend's family kept helping her pay for her house and helping her get a cheap car off craigslist. Then a few months ago, they found out this woman was getting nearly $100k a year from the government. That's a LOT of money where I live. If you make that much money you would be very well off, live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood, have a nice car, etc. Turns out she was spending ALL of that money on mobile game microtransactions. Literally 80k+ a year on mobile games, and then begged family members to pay her bills.
52d501 No.13654808
>>13653337
It doesn't just effect rich people, though. There's a lot of broke motherfuckers who like to live like they're rich - overextending themselves on credit and letting basic necessities slide in order to load up on luxuries.
I have a friend who, granted - he wasn't making bad money - but was by no means rich, ended up spending over $5,000 on ringtones for his phone. $8000 on fucking Zune music. And was constantly buying microtransaction packs on Mass Effect 3.
He says he doesn't buy microtransactions anymore, but I don't believe him. He's exactly the kind of person these fucking things are tuned to exploit. He has no self-control, especially when put into a situation where he's able to buy his way into prestige or success. For example, the guy used to have like 10 different concurrent Xbox Live subscriptions just so that he could "shit on noobs" and then switch out accounts when he ranked up too much - all because he couldn't accept the fact that he was only a lower-mid-range player on an already simple game. He was a junky for that endorphin rush of winning, and when it own skill couldn't get the job done, he'd pay for it with cash.
0e8065 No.13654809
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>>13654664
>he hasn't seen Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood
591718 No.13654833
>europoors and muricucks pissing away their money on retarded and degenerate shit
>sandniggers and chincks getting smarter by the day
50 years from now the power balance will change a lot, this useless generation will get rekt hard. I just hope sandniggers dont take over the whole thing and we end up in another teocentric medievel age
fe0e85 No.13654836
>>13654809
>he hasn't seen this stupid flick glorifying niggers
>>>/reddit/
5b77a7 No.13654844
>>13654833
>sandniggers and chinks
>getting smarter
Top lel
0e8065 No.13654865
>>13654836
>literally mocking movies that glorify niggers
>somehow a nigger glorifying movie
You might be a tad autistic, anon.
52d501 No.13654875
>>13654836
>"glorifying niggers"
You're thinking of Friday, mong. DBAM is a two hour parody taking a huge shit all over nigger ghetto culture, and the movies at the time that actually were trying to "glorify" it.
fe0e85 No.13654928
>>13654875
>>13654865
>>stars nigger
>>makes fun of popular nigger movies
>>still glorifies nigger culture
>b.b.b.b.b.but its a gud movie dawg!
fuck off niggers
d51eef No.13654940
>>13654875
>>13654865
>implying it's not a movie for niggers who like to think themselves better than other niggers
720214 No.13655014
>>13654940
>Don’t make fun of hoodrat niggers white male! Don’t you know that’s racist other niggers who aren’t deadbeat thugs also make fun of ghetto trash? That makes you just like them!
e532f9 No.13655029
>>13654789
>Turns out she was spending ALL of that money on mobile game microtransactions. Literally 80k+ a year on mobile games, and then begged family members to pay her bills.
>has like 3 actually retarded kids.
I wonder why they are all retarded.
56ba5e No.13655075
>>13653489
Online commerce has seemingly shattered any sense of moral decency we might have collectively formed in the wake of unfettered kikery in the US throughout the 19th century that became only somewhat fettered in the 20th century.
>Hey Moshie, check out this hip new internet thing. You can get shekels without even leaving your home, and nobody even needs to know who you are! Think of the potential!
fe0e85 No.13655185
>>13655075
The morality of the United states was shattered long before the internet. The nation was fully demoralized by the late 80's. Escapism is just a byproduct of a society suffering form the disease of spiritual nihilism. When you have no transcendental purpose then all their is left is hedonism.
>>13653489
>Mafia is just a Hollywood created bogyman to blame Italians for Jewish organized crime.
d7278b No.13655218
>>13652767
Time to apply a bit of horseshoe theory
aa605f No.13655295
>>13655268
Truly children are our future
75a4ae No.13655326
>>13650737
I knew a Steam whale as a friend who had 1k+ games and would never play them. Every week or so I'd see on the timeline that he bought 20 or so new games. Whenever I brought it up, him not playing the games he was buying, "so why buy it?" sentiment, he'd get extremely defensive and act as if he was wealthy.
Fast forward a few months, he goes on a rant about his job. It turns out he works at a cafe and didn't like how his female co-workers were getting better tips. I think for the entire time he was just status signaling.
dc435f No.13655375
I'm the first one who thinks these microtransactions are stupid as hell but when I hear about the kind of people spending money of them I seriously feel 0 pity towards them.
They are fucking stupid and some other people is just using that opportunity to make money out of them, if you were making a game or had a company you would do exactly the same.
With this said, this is a bubble, it will explode. Thanks to all this whale money we'll get shit ton of games all following the same design and it will come to a point even whales will start to regret spending so much money on shit that has no value whatsoever. Once it happens it will make SHIT TON of damage to big companies since they are spending shit ton of money into big open world games, servers and teams exclusively to create shit content every day.
Once it happens singlepayers will once again become the most secure way of making money. Quality can't never be beaten at the end.
aaad7a No.13655513
>>13654808
>And was constantly buying microtransaction packs on Mass Effect 3.
you could cheat it and give yourself packs through editing in CHE. but even just opening packs was boring AF because drop rates were awful
d722fd No.13657501
>go through battlefront 2 forums posts
>beta section. people complain about cheaters
>the game is not even out
>massive marketing for pre-purchase
>0fucks for anti-cheats
>pre-purchase for your yoda card goyim
>pre-purchase should be for indie games not fucking S&P500 listed companies
>EA's face posted by OP when ppl pre-purchase the games so they get the shekels and the game isn't even out so they don't need to care.
>>13650600
EA's foreskin is gone forever.
b11b18 No.13657659
>>13655326
>AIDS
but now its only a misdemeanor to knowingly infect someone with hiv in commiefornia
also, children get infected with HIV by blood donations and halloween candy that has white stuff on it, or was just put in some orifice of the bug chaser who gives them out to the kids
90d9b2 No.13658216
>>13650969
They're completely oblivious to what goes on in black countries.
65e798 No.13658284
>>13650600
>"I've seen people literally spend $15,000 on Mass Effect multiplayer cards."
a9bd1e No.13658400
>>13651198
My god anon I think you're onto something.
0e8065 No.13658598
>>13655375
>Quality can't never be beaten at the end.
Tell that to China.
8ded8e No.13659135
>>13653682
that'd make a lot of sense if not for the fact that literally every nigger-run country is a shithole they're just genetically inferior
20f8d8 No.13659369
>>13651311
They shouldnt. A lot of these companies are putting the noose around their necks. It might be good money for now, but that massive amount of money is from a small portion of the community and eventually they'll either burn out or run out of money and the companies will have destroyed all trust in the largest amount of communities. Even now normalfags aren't buying games like they used to, like the tomb raider crap, lawbreakers, stillborn, etc etc. Just imagine how much worse it will get when companies completely alienate the entirety of the gaming community permanently. They're skinning the bear, rather than shaving it. Don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.
b474aa No.13659445
>>13659410
I think a lot of the smaller companies could easily go under, like gearbox, but blizzard activision and EA will probably still stick around unfortunately.
20f8d8 No.13659494
>>13659445
>>13659410
You anons aren't really getting it. Look at how Andromeda did, or how the new COD did. Even Battlefield 4, despite it's decent initial sales lost players fast. People are already getting tired of these massive corp games. Top that off with massive amounts of microtransactions, loot boxes, forced grinding and fucking online crate shit like Shadow of War online battles, and Activisions patent for trying to manipulate you to buy more microtransactions. Customers are already burning out and the corps are trying to make EVEN MORE money, to maximize their profits as well as the rising costs due to their development bloat and trying to continue to push graphical advancement. It's going to be an utter shit show.
afa707 No.13659634
>>13650737
>What the fuck is wrong with whales? Their brains are clearly not normal.
Probably some obese nigger living in the projects who spends all his money working part-time at McDonald's for microtransactions so he can make friends on Twitch.
7464ae No.13659650
>>13659634
More frequently the obese son of a Chinese coal baron who needs to lord his dad's money over all the proles so they all know how great he is.
71218b No.13661220
What the fuck is a whale?
Is that a new wprd filter the fucling kikes put here to confuse, divide and conquer us?
SJW?
Normalfag?
Hipster?
9b9e79 No.13661263
>>13661220
A whale is someone who spends a shitload of money on shitty games and microtransactions.
b98305 No.13661277
>>13661220
>>13661263
Its also borrowed from the casino industry for the Big spenders
bff744 No.13661278
e98ed0 No.13661312
>>13650620
but shekel citizen promises the bestest and biggestes game evar and the jpgs you can buy look realy cool. some people just want to believe.
what the fuck motivates people to spend money on fucking mass effect multiplayer?
71218b No.13661384
>>13661263
Thanks,I was getting paranoid since it was bad enough with /pol/ changing Islam to "Religion of Cuck".
20f8d8 No.13661577
>>13659601
>400k copies
That's it? The indie game Hollow Knight sold more.
20f8d8 No.13661603
>>13659601
>>13661577
Kek, the flops that were Just Cause 3 and Battleborn have moved more copies than that game.
3aada6 No.13661604
cedafd No.13661708
I haven't spent that much money on vidya in 10 years…
I mean people can do what they want, obviously. But man that's insane.
c87012 No.13661954
>>13653888
Nuke the random asshole from Venezuela.
e56c38 No.13662065
>>13654599
>>Today, Manveer Heir is getting his own indie studio
What was that studio again, that closed after doing a SJW game, and afterwards had this bitch going on twitter saying
>I'm free i'm free, I can say fuck gamers, fuck games
or something like that.
Literally looking for it the way I posted yelded no results. Which only speaks volumes about the insignificanse of these morons and their narratives if they don't have a big studio to finance their trainwrecks.
Anyway, I'm looking forward for Manveer's next game. It will be a true delight to see it not be suported by their own public.
5ea7f7 No.13662132
>>13650737
Whales are sad. They're fucked up people who the gaming industry is using state of the art behavioral research to turn into addicts.
4d764f No.13662145
>>13662132
You mean they got what they had coming? Sounds good to me.
381ff1 No.13662151
>ASARI PRONOUNS
>ASARI
>PRONOUNS
28a0e1 No.13662180
>>13662065
Tale of Tales, only really known for that outburst and making a bunch of obscure artsy-fartsy indie games
e27572 No.13662186
>>13654356
And I never thought I'd see loot boxes (well, ogre boxes) in a AAA single player game, but here we are. Or EA's matchmaking "patent".
Scientific Revenue, the company heavily invested into this Dynamic Pricing(R), thinks offering different prices for the same shit is the next step in evolution. They even put their "philosophy" into their promo movie: "So why offer the same prices to everyone all the time"? It's just "optional" after all. You gotta "turn players into payers", anon, and to that end, you gotta data mine the fuck out of everyone.
This is what they are prepared to believe in. And considering Jack Tretton is a member of the Board, you better be sure they take it very seriously. If they pull it off, if they at the very least can turn dolphins into whales, the big bucks will be coming.
I hope you're right and the poison stays in mobile gaming only. I hope that like another anon said, that games with this shit fail and keep failing. But like I said before, when cancer takes root, it spreads to all kinds of places. Time and time again, the masses have shown they are prepared to assume the position and take in stronger and stronger toxins as long as the game is good. And then it becomes standardized and they don't even know why there was resistance in the first place.
Be aware that this stuff is floating around in the background and you may find yourself saving a lot of money. And not being fucking data mined to oblivion as you play a game to relax of all things.
83dc64 No.13662302
>>13662186
>Or EA's matchmaking "patent".
I think you mean Activision.
e6a84b No.13662357
can we please find these whales and gas them
e56c38 No.13662455
>>13662180
Thanks, that's the one
I suppose even Manveer can keep his company afloat if he sticks to a butget that his consumers can sustain. That means a low low low low butget
638860 No.13663090
I will never buy SARS citizen
0629d9 No.13663113
Video games were a mistake.
bf04d0 No.13678191
>>13653120
>>13654833
>muh weeb games
You realize Japan is the epicenter of this cancer, with "gatcha" mechanics absolutely devastating all of their old niche franchises, and the particularly loathsome example of looser pachislot laws causing Konami to liquidate nearly their entire decades-old vidya division, right?
>>13650827
>>13655375
This isn't a bubble, it's our guaranteed future, unless we do the same thing prior generations did and ban it. Again, look at Asia, especially Korea, Japan, and China. The revenues of these mechanics have grown every year, penetrating more and more games, and Asian devs are at least a decade ahead of us in terms of the depths of sleaze they've plumbed, and all of it is heading here according to plan. The only way to stop them from destroying our hobby, is to eliminate their business model.
>>13651198
>>13651457
>>13653568
THIS!
Most of it wouldn't even require new legislation, since the distinction from eGambling is paper thin sophistry.