/v/ - Video Games

That picture looks like parody

>twitch

gee that was a surprise

Okay, but why would I use it in the first place?

>The festering hive of e-sports cancer has lootboxes

You're surprised?

Lootboxes are gambling.

Remember to report Twitch to your state's gambling commission

>>13645639

No it's not

You don't even need a jewish lawyer to prove this

It's like saying that a pack of baseball cards is gambling

You are right, but it's still not considered as gambling by the law

>sending 250 bits to a streamer gets you a loot box with one of 6 temp chat emotes.

>Collect all 6 temporary emotes to unlock permanent emote.

>$65 to unlock the permanent emote right away

You also have lootboxes.

>>13645685

So then meme it and set a precedent. Lootboxes and MTX are two of the biggest revenue sources for gaming.

>>13645674

>full retard

>infuckingplying

they are going to be swiming in shekels

>tfw have gambling problems

>5 years from now every single game will have lootcrates

Welp, time to find a new hobby

embarrassing, those kikes have no shame.

>Dragon Quest and Pokeman gets rid of gambling "for legal reason"

>every other game adds it as a real money feature

pottery

>>13645986

That only solidifies an argument that it isn't gambling, though. By contrast, steam items can be converted into steam credit which is fucking taxed.

Twitch is having problems because the U.S ad regulators are viewing twitch players who receive free game as advertising, which incurs tax and legal penalties.

>>13645562

>first the prime feature and now this

Please be fake, shit shouldnt get this cancerous not that i really give a fuck about twitch, but hate the trend

It's not a bad idea to make some extra money and draw people in.

But why the fuck did they have to use ecelebs?

These people are hideous.

>>13646665

DO YOU PEOPLE NOT REALIZE THIS FORMATTING MAKES YOU STICK OUT

>>13645685

>>13645685

The only faggots that defend lootboxes are shills or a kid with mommies credit card.

>>13645562

can it be nuked yet?

>>13646936

It needed nuking a while ago.

>>13646665

>>13645562

I like to watch a stream every now and then when I just want to wind down, but holy shit. Sure it's more money but a Twitch chat lootcrate is pretty fucking gay. It's Twitch though, we all know they're a bunch of faggots, so I'm not surprised. I still haven't grown up to the point where I don't laugh at the rapid emote spam of Twitch chat. There's something so brainless about it that just has an appeal to me.

>>13646920

Only faggots post images of that degenerate whore.

>>13646920

I actually agree with this. I'm glad more and more people are starting to tell the paranoid faggots to fuck off. I'd blame it on /pol/ since they have such a livid hatred of absolutely anything that isn't them and think they own the website, but I'm not one to jump to conclusions.

>>13647088

> I'd blame it on /pol/ since they have such a livid hatred of absolutely anything that isn't them

How are Jews and communists "everyone"?

>>13646648

I wasn't saying it's gambling. I'm saying you get less than fucking nothing out of these things, and we should figure out a way to meme this to the normalfags so they stop buying this shit.

>>13647053

I miss that doggo people would spam everywhere, second only to kappa. Haven't seen it on a large scale since 2015 I think.

how long till they and AAA companies get into gambling lawsuits?

>>13647088

/leftypol/ wouldn't like lootboxes either

either way, >>>/shill/

give me my fucking JTV back

>>13647300

CTR and the JIDF were actual things, now its shareblue

also in reference to that picture, I'll point this out partially because 4chan and maybe neogaf and the escapist refugees are looking here; since shills are paid to make a certain group look bad, they can pose as that group and type stuff that makes the shill himself look bad, while masquerading as a non-shill native

also

>that particular type of spongebob macro

perhaps halfchan is more to the liking of whoever took that screenshot

>>13646920

>leddit spacing

>queen fatass

wew

>>13647406

Anon, that "shill" in the image still posts here. With any luck, he'll show up here.

>>13647300

To be fair, CTR (now Shareblue) is a real thing, though to what extent they're actually guilty of what /pol/ says I can't say. Otherwise you're on point though: /pol/ is a hugbox.

>>13647390

It really sucks that he's dead, I liked the music he started producing near the end of his life,

>>13647390

IS THAT A MOTHER FUCKING JOJO REFERENCE

>>13647466

>>>/eerie/

>>13647466

>>>/twitter/

>>13647455

>>13647406

Yeah I'm not denying they are/were real. Especially on 4chan where before the exodus and probably still after was the top 100 sites in America.

However shilling like marketing is exposing the greatest amount of people to a certain message.

8ch is like going to a small pond, with a 10 fish in it and trying to shoot them with a pellet gun.

Meanwhile actual shilling like what occurs on Yahoo

>Numerous pro-hillary posts

>Days later these same comments section are filled with pro-liberal posters under a different name.

>Yahoo sells accounts to marketing groups and gives them tools to help commenting while removing tools from actual people

Is hunting in a fish farm with dynamite.

Shilling isn't solely used to convince people but also to demoralize them, convince them they are on the losing team or outnumbered.

Its why to many Trump winning was mindblowing except for those who actually tracked the election beyond MSM and popular news sites.

>>13647593

>>I don't even really read chat most of the time anyway

>using twitch

>>13647509

>However shilling like marketing is exposing the greatest amount of people to a certain message.

>

>8ch is like going to a small pond,

So you're a fucking retard which believes paying ESL indians to astroturf on sites and make a couple shitposts per hour on 4/8chan is expensive and nobody would do it.

>>13646920

.t reddit

Have you guys seen the Yugioh Marathon, and how they are literally plays 3 minute ads, every 3 minutes?

They would play Ads before the credits, then play them AFTER the credits. it makes a 20 minute episode into 40 minutes

>>13645685

Packs of baseball cards should count as gambling too, there is no reason to defend that shit.

>>13647704

>Indians have shit English and that's a big deal when all they have to do is breathe and copy paste sentences from a PDF

top zuz

>>13647809

Which does what?

Is someone going to read a copy/pasted qoute about Hillary and say

>Oh man maybe she isn't that bad

Or are the few posts that are pro-hillary that aren't bait going to demoralize the board?

Oh wait we already know the question neither happened.

Did your mother drink when she was pregnant with you?

>>13647704

>Airwrecka

That's the least green Ork I've ever seen.

>>13646648

>this thing not even being an asset

If you're not getting an asset, what are you paying for?

>>13646838

>I've merely pretended to be mentally retarded for the past 10 years.

>>13647901

Pixels

>inb4 pixels are assets that can be sold for money

>>13647932

>What are MMOs

>What is vidya as a shitty service

>>13647932

If pixels can't be sold for money, how are normalfags buying them en masse?

>>13647915

tbh your argument was pretty shit, so you were giving him very little to nothing to work with.

>>13648014

>Your argument is shit

How?

Explain nigger.

My argument was that not everyone posting on an imageboard is secretly a marketer trying to convince them of something.

His counter argument was that I was in fact a marketer, after he claimed that Indians are the ones doing it.

Seeing as I'm responding dynamically and have a grasp of the English language and not shitting in streets, I would say he proved my point.

But if he can claim I'm a Jidf/Correct The Record/Leftypol/ I can claim you're him just using a dynamic IP or proxy.

>>13647390

why would you even bring that up?

>>13645623

>>13645621

>>13645611

>>13645591

You niggers don't get it

They have lootboxes for emoticons for a chatting service on a streaming platform

This is actually the ultimate form of cancer

>>13648255

>gaming

<a cancer hobby

>game streaming

<<a cancer entertainment

<based on a cancer hobby

>game streaming chat

<<<a cancer discussion medium

<<based on a cancer entertainment

<based on a cancer hobby

>game streaming chat emotes

<<<<a cancer emoji replacement

<<<based on a cancer discussion medium

<<based on a cancer entertainment

<based on a cancer hobby

>game streaming chat emote donations

<<<<<a cancer currency

<<<<based on a cancer emoji replacement

<<<based on a cancer discussion medium

<<based on a cancer entertainment

<based on a cancer hobby

>game streaming chat emote donation lootboxes

<<<<<<a cancer merchandising model

<<<<<based on a cancer currency

<<<<based on a cancer emoji replacement

<<<based on a cancer discussion medium

<<based on a cancer entertainment

<based on a cancer hobby

Dubs acknowledged, but it really does seem like a logical progression of their business model to me.

If loot boxes aren't gambling because you can't win real money, then surely virtual nudity doesn't count because it's not real tits?

>>13649122

Hey, if loli isn't pedo then bara isn't gay. That's how it work man.

>>13649122

Well of course anon, why do you think loli drawings are legal and camgirls can make cash? Because our standards are inconsistent? Perish the thought!

>>13649143

Gaming as we knew it died years ago, even before Gamergate. I would press F to pay respects, but that would be contributing to the problem.

Didn't they have lootboxes already? I remember reading something like that

>>13649438

Emoji is a Japanese word coined in the 80's that roughly translates to "picture character".

It's unrelated to the word "emoticon", it's just a coincidence that they're similar words for similar things.

>>13645694

We are talking about people willing to pay 5$ to have their fake friend read their message.

>>13649243

One or two good games come out every year and there's still hundreds of games to emulate yet to be played, I'll be fine up until my deathbed.

>>13654158

Wait, you can seriously get (presumably useless) duplicates?

Oy fucking vey.

>>13647901

In the case of a Magic: the Gathering draft, you're paying for an experience. Assuming everyone at the table knows what he's doing, you get 3-4hrs of fun for $12 Canuck bucks. I'm not a fan of drafting, but the experience is decently priced.

>>13648253

How about you keep that shitty excuse to threads where it actually is brought out out of the blue?

>>13650227

>it's fine, I can salvage 1% of the contaminated water and live from that

No

>>13655127

Not sure if this is a joke but less than 1% of the Earth's water is drinkable.

>>13655454

I don't typically initiate the whining, I'm just pointing out that there is actually a reason for it and it's not just a stupid meme. His post didn't even have an image attached so your point is questionably valid.

>>13655158

Of course it isn't. You blew him the fuck out.

>>13650495

<inflation is good because people have more money

<inflation is good, because when there's deflation people stop buying anything or investing and starve to death out of greed

>>13646665

>to make some extra money

They already have several ways to do that, one of them being access to in-game crates. This shit is somehow gayer

>>13655300

That's not what Black Orcs are, they're purebred Orcs created by the Chaos Dwarfs to serve as slaves. And they're not black.

>>13649438

What the fuck do you want me to call a Unicode code point that renders an image instead of a typeface then? The concept exists; you need a way to refer to it somehow.

Your objection is like if someone decries the Soviet Union for being Communist, and you responded with

>using the word "communist" unironically

>>13654720

>Wait, you can seriously get (presumably useless) duplicates?

Yep, 100% useless dupes.

>>13655222

>>13655300

>>13655477

>all these repeating digits

Full-body CHECKED

>>13646665

Even ignoring the Reddit spacing, you're still cancer.

>It's not a bad idea to make some extra money and draw people in.

How the fuck is a random lootcrate going to draw in new users?

>But why the fuck did they have to use ecelebs?

The emotes are zombified versions of emotes that have existed on Twitch since practically the dawn of time. Some of them aren't even ecelebs; the Zombie Lord Kappa is based on John Kappa, a former Twitch employee.

<lootboxes

I still can't decide whether this is the most Jewish thing in gaming right now.

>>13648255

>This is actually the ultimate form of cancer

I severely doubt this is the final form of cancer, it always gets worse.

>>13655222

>>13646771

>giving a shit about formatting

why are people so fucking pedantic about everything? you fuckers will take any goddamn opportunity to jump on anything besides what a person actually said. a tumblr filename, "reddit spacing," even fucking grammar mistakes like pretentious 15-year-olds in youtube comments. can't you fuckers just respond to a post instead of finding every little irrelevant thing that's "wrong" with it and wasting everyone's time by yelling about it?

>>13657093

More like regression toward the mean, or mainstream in this case. Imageboards are mainstream and no longer niche. It doesn't attract a certain type of a personality. It attracts pretty much everyone. In a niche community you'll communicate with people who are most likely similar to you but in a mainstream big phenomenon that is no longer the case.

>>13655454

See >>13647961

His complaint about taking up screen space is retarded though.

>you fuckers

You have to go back.

>can't you fuckers just respond to a post instead of finding every little irrelevant thing that's "wrong" with it and wasting everyone's time by yelling about it?

When someone is being a faggot, people are going to call them a fucking faggot and often tell them why. Get over it and/or leave. Preferably the latter.

>>13645562

Still a less cancerous business model than advertisements.

>>13667045

That was the timeline we don't speak of, anon. The timeline where Reddit Notes actually launched, and Reddit was something more than just a puppet of (((Conde Nast))).

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Adapt gambling laws to include gambling in video games which targets children.”.

Government responded:

The Gambling Commission has strong powers to regulate gambling and is monitoring convergence between gambling and video games closely. The government is committed to protecting children from harm.

Protecting children and the vulnerable from being harmed or exploited by gambling is a core objective of the regulation of gambling in Great Britain, and a priority for the government. The Gambling Commission, as the regulator for gambling in Great Britain, has powers to regulate online gambling, and is committed to using its powers and expertise to contribute to creating a safer internet.

The Gambling Commission released a position paper in March 2017 detailing existing protections in relation to virtual currencies, eSports and social casino gaming. The paper can be found on the Gambling Commission’s website at the following address: http://www.gamblingGambling Commission.gov.uk/PDF/Virtual-currencies-eSports-and-social-casino-gaming.pdf

Where gambling facilities are offered to British consumers using in-game items that can be converted into cash or traded for items of real-world value, then such activities must be licensed by the Gambling Commission and adhere to strict requirements for the protection of children and the vulnerable, which include measures to prevent underage gambling. It is an offence to invite a child to gamble, and where there is a failure to prevent underage gambling, the Commission will take regulatory and/or criminal action.

Where the facility exists for players of video games to purchase a key to unlock a bundle containing an unknown quantity and value of in-game items as a prize, and where there are readily accessible opportunities to cash in or exchange those awarded in-game items for money or money’s worth, then these elements of the game are likely to be considered licensable gambling activities. In contrast, where prizes are restricted for use solely within the game, such in-game features would not be licensable gambling. The Gambling Commission is committed to working with the video game industry to prevent gambling-related harm related to their platforms.

Consumers are also protected by the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. This includes a requirement on businesses not to subject anyone to misleading or aggressive marketing practices, or, for example, direct exhortation to buy products, such as games content, including in-game purchases such as loot boxes. The government is committed to ensuring that consumers are properly protected and that children’s vulnerability and inexperience is not exploited by aggressive commercial practices.

The Video Standards Council (VSC) Rating Board is the designated body for classifying video games, and applies the Europe-wide PEGI ratings to video games supplied in the UK. The PEGI criteria currently make provision for games depicting simulations of traditional gambling, and such games would generally attract a minimum PEGI rating of 12. The VSC Rating Board is discussing these issues with the PEGI Council and its Experts Group to determine whether any changes to the PEGI criteria need to be made.

The Gambling Commission monitors the participation of children in gambling through a range of data sources including complaints, academic research and the annual Young People and Gambling Survey, which in 2017 included specific questions in relation to eSports and video gaming. The results of the survey are due to be published soon. The Gambling Commission has also asked the Responsible Gambling Strategy Board to examine the wider relationship between children and gambling.

On 11 October the government published the Internet Safety Strategy, setting out plans to make the UK the safest place in the world to be online. The Strategy outlines how the government will work with online platforms, game publishers and game developers, and with agencies such as the VSC Rating Board, to continue to improve online safety in games. This includes promoting further awareness and understanding of PEGI age ratings, parental controls and advice on safe gaming.

The government recognises the risks that come from increasing convergence between gambling and video games. The Gambling Commission is keeping this matter under review and will continue to monitor developments in the market.

Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport

>>13669284

'As long as the kids don't get anything of any potential monetary value out of gambling opening crates then it's fine, so just make sure that nothing is tradable or convertible in any way'

Thanks britain, can't wait to let kids into my new 'crate opening parlor' where they can give me money to get random pictures to pop up on my slot 'fun machines'.

>>13669284

>Where gambling facilities are offered to British consumers using in-game items that can be converted into cash or traded for items of real-world value, then such activities must be licensed by the Gambling Commission and adhere to strict requirements for the protection of children and the vulnerable, which include measures to prevent underage gambling. It is an offence to invite a child to gamble, and where there is a failure to prevent underage gambling, the Commission will take regulatory and/or criminal action.

Isn't that the case with Steam, given that you can spend money to gamble a lootbox drop, which can then be sold in the Steam Market, giving you Steam Wallet fund that can be used to purchase actual products on Steam?

Steam doesn't just sell games and software, but also sells hardware. Hardware is clearly an item of real-world value.

>>13669467

>But anon children cant play CSGO and TF2. Those games are rated M! :^)

This is probably the only reason they haven't had their cratebox business dismantled

>>13670264

Good thing there's plenty of other not-rated-M games with lootboxes then.

I'm guessing nobody stepped in is mostly because everyone's too fucking pussy to set a precedent on this stuff. And also because lazy.

>>13647466

I love JoJo!

So each Twitch lootbox costs 250 bits, which is $3.50 worth of bits.

Assuming each twitch crate is totally random and you can get duplicates, the median number of crates it takes to get all six emotes and thus unlock the permanent emote is about 13 crates.

So the median cost to unlock the ONE permanent emote (remember, the rest are temporary!) is $45.50.

$45 for an emote

50% of people will end up paying more than that.

>>13669467

>Isn't that the case with Steam, given that you can spend money to gamble a lootbox drop, which can then be sold in the Steam Market, giving you Steam Wallet fund that can be used to purchase actual products on Steam?

I'd argue that Steam's model of randomness/lootboxes is more consumer-friendly than e.g. Hearthstone's. Comparing it to a trading card pack is a useful metaphor: you can buy a random chance through a pack, but since there's a secondary market for trading cards, there's still a deterministic way to get the card you want at a reasonable value-determined price. Further, you're not tied to the game and can "cash out" if you so desired.

>>13670779

I've seen at least 5 different posters today alone that use the third method of spacing, and if you believe >>13646665 or >>13646920 are not using it I encourage you to browse Reddit in the future.