/v/ - Video Games

ps2>ps3

pretty much by 2009/2010 the ps3 got its shit together and it was good

>PS3 had nogaems

>It ended up having more exclusives than 360

Feels good, man.

>proper successor

It's still a joke compared to the PS2, while the PS1 and PS2 had big libraries with a huge amount of variety. The PS3 and PS4 have… Dudebro shooters, movies and a few 6/10 anime games i guess?

It only stands out for not being as filled with shovelware as the 360 or the Wii.

it's nothing compared to the PS2

this how bad the memesation 4 is, soniggers are getting nostagia for the fucking ps3 which was completely forgetabble console with nothing of worth

just buy a smartphone casuals

>>13632406

>a few 6/10 anime games

Bloodborne

Nioh

Persona 5

Yakuza 0

I'm sure there's more, those are just the ones I own. All 8/10 or higher.

>>13632284

>Did the PS3 turn into the proper successor to the PS2 and it was so gradual nobody noticed?

Fucking neofags, don't you have hambeasts to grope?

It goes up about a million points since you can use generic controller.

>>13632856

I mean just the fact that you can get a OLD Ps3 and any direct input controller with enough inputs and you can play pretty much every game from ps1 to ps3 is nice.

>>13632993

Except monkey hero.

But literally nothing but a real ps1 plays monkey hero right, even the PSone can't play monkey hero

When it shipped with a working, no-nonsense DLNA client.

>>13632901

>Persona

>Yakuza

>Not exclusive

You high, lad?

Leave your stupid comments in your pocket you ignorant nigger.

>>13633078

Robocop is becomming a nigger too? Man, i think by now even normalfags are becoming sick of that enforced diversity, dont they? I wasnt in a cinema for years so i dotn know how those films even make money or if normalfags still demand to get deepthroated.

Also

>Black robocop

>Black cop

>Black

>cop

The irony, i bet the antoganist is a white racist. White lifes matter when?

>>13633437

I could be wrong, but isn't the bottom one the man who hits showers?

>>13633437

>Robocop is becomming a nigger too?

That's just cyborg, a comic book superhero you'd probably only know from the teen titans. He's not an original hero, but i think he replaced martian manhunter on the justice league.

>>13633539

> He's not an original hero

*He's not Replacing an original hero, per se

>>13633078

I don't know how they fucked up this badly. Even Robocop reboot was better.

>>13632408

Is Chad still alive?

Sony-ogaffers get out

>>13632284

>PS3

>best console of its time

Great, NiggerGAF refugees coming in. Dubs

>>13632538

they're too busy molesting children.

>>13633591

>>13633539

Well at least. I remember watching robocop as little kid, shit was cash back then. Can also remember the TT Guy, but theres no resemblence.

The 7th gen was mostly shit. PS3 is only king of a pile of shit. Even then, the Wii might have a bigger library of interesting (though often flawed) games.

>>13633539

>He's not an original hero, but i think he replaced martian manhunter on the justice league.

One of the comics writers, Geoff Johns, has a closeted homossexual passion for the Green Lantern Hal Jordan, and the executives wanted Nigger Lantern John Stewart in New-52 Justice League, so he offered to trade Martian Manhunter for Cyborg so the executives had their precious affirmative action quota character and he could still use Jordan.

>>13633646

>Can also remember the TT Guy, but theres no resemblence.

Yeah TT had different designs than the actual comics, just look at starfire.

>>13633631

Back then it was all practical effects and even some stop-motion and animatronics. Now everything is bland, tasteless CG.

By about 2010-2011. That's when I sold my 360 and got a PS3. I ended up with about 60 games by 2016

>>13633591

Cyborg is pretty well-known, I'm playing as him in Injustice 2 right now I don't actually like him and he looks dumb

>>13634327

There were a bunch of Robocop TV shows that are totally forgotten these days. I almost want to check them out again now.

>>13632284

When you could start modding it.

>>13637350

You could say that about any console.

>>13637356

Yeah, but the PS3 has video games. It also has in-house emulation of the PS2 and 1 library, which is guaranteed to run better.

>>13637463

It wasn't an in-house emulator, it was literally just the PS2s hardware on the same PCB sitting alongside the Cell BE

>>13637681

Even in the later ones like the Slim?

>>13637710

The PS3 Slim can't play PS2 games at all specifically because Sony removed the extra hardware to save cash

>>13632284

Number one of trash is still trash. Somehow handhelds ended up being the best part of that generation. Haven't touched a PS3 in years now yet still dick around with my PSP.

>>13637356

Ease of modding should have been specified probably. The 360 for one tries to take a blood debt just tearing into the cunt.

>>13637463

Depends on the model and if you mean actual backwards compatibility or PSN rereleases. Speaking of the PS2 compatibility in particular (all PS3 models being PS1 capable to my knowledge), the NTSC 20 and 60 GB are the only ones with proper PS2 backwards compatibility due to having an actual PS2 chip in them, while the NTSC 80gb only has partial as it uses software based emulation and even what it can handle playing seems to be finicky (looking at bug listings on wikipedia about it). With the PSN PS2 games on the PS3, I'd assume (keyword; I don't have reason to buy them as I still have a properly working PS2) that the specific emulator used to run them would have to work on any model of PS2, or they couldn't sell them/would have to specify does/does not work on X model(s). And from the looks of those, what's offered is rather lacking compared to the amount of PS1 games on the PSN (though even the PS1 section is missing a fir bit of worthwhile games for whatever reasons).

>>13638031

Yeah, but the library point is getting pretty weak these days. Topped out with the Playstation and dwindled from there, really.

>>13637463

Every PS3 model released after 2008 lacks PS2 backwards compatibility you dumb niggee.

Fucks sake, neogaf is here.

MODS MODS MODS

2008 was metal gear solid 4

2009 was demon souls, inFAMOUS, killzone 2, and uncharted 2

many good games after this in the years to follow, but this is what pretty much the turning point for the ps3.

meanwhile on xbox, it became apparent microsoft was doing nothing besides halo, gears, and forza each year. why, that's STILL all they seem to be able to do for the most part.

>>13638247

You don't have to tell everyone you're here, it's pretty obvious from your posts.

>>13637315

>the most insane piece of hardware

>"The Darkness", one of the earliest PS3 releases, has gigantic framerate drops

found the niggerGAF

>>13638724

>>13637315

It was so fucking insane for the time research labs all over the world just bought PS3s in bulk to crunch numbers. It just wasn't that good for developing games.

>>13638493

>uncharted 2

>good game

Fuck off with your ebin cinematic bullshit right now

>>13638944

>research labs bought PS3s to CRUNCH NUMBERS

I'm sorry what? source?

Around 2010-11, when the Wii's popularity fizzled out and the 360 suddenly walked down a path of shame with the Kinect. For the last 5 or 6 years, PS3 really has been the only 7th gen console worth a damn because the others supernova'd and for the first 3 years of the PS4's lifespan PS3 ended up with the lion's share of its games as cross-gen plats, making it an ideal, viable budget option for an embarrassingly long stretch of the current gen. I'm hard pressed to think of a console that has had more graceful twilight years than the PS3 but let us never forget how long that shit took to take off at all.

the ps3 had its ass kicked, which forced it to eat humble pie and focus on the games.

>>13638724

That's exactly what I mean. The hardware was so batshit crazy devs could barely even work with it. It was the antithesis of what game console hardware should be, expensive, and not centered around game development. But they pushed it out anyways. Was it stupidity? Was it a gamble? Or were they just absolute madmen? I think all 3 when you consider the PS3 also originally officially supported installing Linux to it if online to get past European import tarrifs. Absolute fucking madmen is all you can do to describe Sony in this era.

>>13639252

*only

>>13639182

>The resulting supercomputer, Dr. Khanna said, had the computational power of nearly 3,000 laptop or desktop processors, and cost only $75,000 to make — about a tenth the cost of a comparable supercomputer made using traditional parts.

>comparable supercomputer

>$750,000

what are they, fucking retarded? pretty sure they would've payed much less if they bought 10 year old hardware without it being bundled in a plastic box

Check 'em sonygaf!

reroll

>>13639182

also

>not linking an archived copy

eat shit shilling faggot

>>13639355

those dubs are nice, but check deez dubs

>>13639359

>rolling for dubs

>Not saging

>not getting any

ISHIGGYYDIDITTTY

>>13639341

1997's best CPU was the Pentium II Xeon, which was seven hundred and eighty times slower than a PS3's processor. Why didn't this guy just source one hundred and fifty thousand decade-old CPUs, plus one hundred and fifty thousand decade-old motherboards, plus six hundred thousand decade-old modules of 128MB SDRAM because that was the biggest available at the time, plus one hundred and fifty thousand power supplies, then spend probably years trying to network all this shit across obsolete ports and protocols and troubleshooting faulty parts and then buying a fucking private dam to power it all, in order to do the same thing but slower because of shitty old I/O interfaces and with a massively higher power draw and more downtime, a retard wonders.

What a fucking chump, doing the job he was hired to do instead of inventing a hobby and wasting everyone's time. Suck my balls.

>>13632284

Anyone got that image of the billions of dollars they invested on the Cell while having none for games and the years it took them to recoup.

>>13638493

The first Uncharted game was more fun, still a shallow copy of the old Tomb Raider-games.

>>13637990

PAL PS3 60gb launch edition also had the PS2/1 Chip.

That said fuck the launch PS3 - I went through three of them with YLOD under refurb warranty and it became harder and harder to get them pre-no linux update, so gave up and spent that refund on an 7970 and remembered why I always loved PC.

That said, PS2 works to this day after cleaning the lens. I'm FF8ing it up RN. Greatest console of all time as it does PS1 and PS2 without a hitch. What greater selection of console games have ever been released than that? None. /thread

>>13639677

Only blew one PS3, it was a 60gb launch model. Lost the second one I got bought it for 125 off friend around 08' and my PS2 due to circumstances.

Grabbed a 60gb PS3 off'a ebay just a couple months ago. Though after building my second gaming PC that maybe i should blow the $$ on a PS and whent for the PS3 because I could play 3 generations of games and just grab wholesale bundles off'a ebay as well.

Not a bad way to blow 400$ including shipping and handling. Though I got some bunk games in the mix.

>>13637681

Later models used emulation

The PS3 suffered from 3 crippling factors that prevented it, as well as the PSP, from truly taking off

>Impracticality

The PS3 should have been nothing more than an enhanced PS2 with the hardware of a high-spec PC. Instead they tried to turn it into a total multimedia machine to compete with MS which worked to an extent but deviated from its predecessors modus operandi too much. If you ever want to observe a colossal waste of money in action look up the Japan-only PSX, which was essentially a test run for the PS3.

It was far too expensive at launch, was fucking huge, couldn't play many PS1 or PS2 games in a feature that was eventually removed, and relied on far too many moving parts instead of the mechanical disc release of the PS2 Slim, meaning if you got a YLOD, which you would, your disc would be going back to Japan along with the console, and more often than not on a one-way trip.

>Bad release time

Many forget this but the PS2 almost Dreamcasted itself early on when nobody bought it. The world could have potentially gone without a PS2 until late 2001/early 2002 but they felt Sega was forcing their hand. This time around they released too late after planning too late. The 360 had the early bird advantage and built upon the networking capabilities of its predecessor, and the PS3 ended up dropping around the same time as the Wii thus stifling any major sales numbers for a good 3 years when the motion meme eventually wore off.

>The rise of the internet

Most cite September 1993 or 1996 as the point where internet usage skyrocketed, but that was still largely for businesses and forums/usergroups. It is of my opinion that the period from Summer '06 to Summer '07 was potentially the most significant increase of any time period, period. Before, any early shortcomings would be swept under the rug, but due to sites like Youtube and Myspace taking off, failures were well-documented and inescapable. Assfaggots began chiming the quite frankly ridiculous launch price as well as the lack of titles early on and almost killed it. Then they mocked the dildo-shaped Move along with Kinect a couple years later for being "plagiaristic" but by that point it didn't work as effectively as the Wii's competition could essentially do everything it could but with superior specs and without the ubiquitious IPs. Still, the damage had been done.

I wouldn't say the PS3 won by any chance. They just survived to live another day. Arguably the relationship it had with the Blu-Ray multimedia disc saved both the console and that format. Either one would surely have failed on their own.

>>13632284

>Many PS3 releases are considered all time classics

Fuck the neofags did come here

>>13639780

>PS3 launch edition

>400 bucks

They go for 400 USD now!? Jeysus… or as you said did it have heaps of games?

>>13639978

>Arguably the relationship it had with the Blu-Ray multimedia disc saved both the console and that format.

This

Many were bundled with TVs as they were the only BR. Many older people got these as combos and they were literally used for BR playback.

>>13632481

Buy a book on grammar and punctuation, Ivan.

>>13640068

No it was 215$ once the S&H was added. I could have just waited on a bid and saved about 40-80$ but I said "Fuck it" and the rest was two games I needed to have and bought new, at reduced price ofc, plus three wholesale buys from ebay.

>>13640262

>i know you people go "reeee" about PS, but what's the alternative? dudebro console that breaks down everytime you look at it or Dobson tier faggotry?

See, the problem with your argument is that having worse competitors doesn't make something good, especially not when you're using clear hyperbole when describing the competitors. It's jew logic.

>>13639445

He did that shit in like 2014 you illiterate nigger, I implied getting 2007 hardware would be cheaper than bulk buying a bunch of PS3s

Also GTFO niggerGAF

>>13640262

So what, the fact that one pile of shit is less shit than the other two piles of shit doesn't make it anything more than a pile of shit fam

And if we're gonna go full jew logic, Sony ate a dick by having the shittiest sale figures out of the three

PS3 was only good for gundam and mecha games.

Everything else was shite

>>13640362

>JRPG

pass

>>13640262

>console alternative

<Emulation

But youngfags can't afford rigs to do that (especially PS3) so we are back at square one.

You missed the post where I still have a PS2 and a gaming rig.

Best of both worlds.

If you're a poorfag and only play a few games, or are patient, consoles are the way to go.

If you play the latest games on launch, the extra few hundred to make a comparable gaming rig will be easily outweighed by additional cost of games/network subscription kikery that comes with consoles.

Wii is only good for party games IMO. TBH I find Nintendo IP rehashed and done to death these days. Zelda would be the only thing I'd be interested to play - N64 was their last good console.

>>13640282

$215 fair enough then that's not so bad.

Enjoy ^__^

>>13640398

>Enjoy ^__^

Oh I have, already put in 200+ hours on SO:4.

>>13640398

I'd be more eager to build another PC if there were any games that would take advantage of the thing. The only thing it seems to have are multiplats which are either slightly better and aren't very good in the first place on PC like nudoom or nuwolf.

Can't say these games interest me much more than a passive pirate and try 6 months after I torrent it. Consoles are getting new releases that actually appeal to me. It's been a lot of fun not playing old PC games for a generation for once. Catching up on PS3 was neat, and now I'm actively experiencing PS4 games.

>>13640642

don't even care about variable v-sync pacing, just gonna get a 10-bit monitor for my next one, retire my two 16:10 monitors and use a CRT and a 10-bit flat panel. I'm going with next generation ryzen, probably a ryzen 5, 16gb of ram, all that shit. Finding it hard to care very much about this stuff but I've been needing an upgrade for some time, and nothing has given me the push because nothing comes out on this shitty platform that I didn't play years ago or actually want to play now.

>>13640398

>If you're a poorfag and only play a few games, or are patient, consoles are the way to go.

Every poor kid in Brazil and Russia playing pirated games on PC begs to differ friend

>>13632284

>PS3

>Best console and proper successor to PS2

No.

>>13632284

>Halo 3 is the only 360 exclusive people are still positive about

Ace Combat 6.

>>13640398

>But youngfags can't afford rigs to do that (especially PS3) so we are back at square one.

My calculator can run the shit that is playable for now on RPCS3 much better than ANYTHING on that shitshow that is PCSX2.

>>13640398

>If you're a poorfag and only play a few games, or are patient, consoles are way to go.

I think installing emulator on PC and setting its options would be cheaper and faster than buying old consoles and games.

>>13641103

For most consoles this is the case, the only console I know where it's cheaper to just get the damn thing is buying a chipped used PS2 and then just download ROMs and burn any game you want for it

>>13640415

>SO4

Nice, will have to check that out

>>13640457

There are plenty of games that take advantage, especially if you want to mod, if you are not playing mid-late 00s 1080p res.

PCs can barely do 4k60 at the moment, let alone decent VR beyond the flyscreen 1st gen stuff. 4k90 VR is a generation of GPUs away at minimum.

Agreed on consoles getting some good stuff. That said if you look beyond the usual AAA bullshit there are plenty of awesome PC exclusives, indies and more to come.

The other reason I like PC is pure graphics grunt. Sure some ports are gimped but others are not, or are not ports and this is where the PC version shines IMO. That said PS4 and co got their shit looking much better.

>>13640642

>DDR4/SSD pricing

God damn bamboo nigger price fixing for the 50millionth time as per usual.

Now is a shit time to build a PC.

That said, the AMD/Intel competition sure has helped move beyond fucking quad cores.

>TFW a 2600k is still a yardstick CPU 6+ years later

That said I'm also not really complaining - it means the days of upgrading every year or two to be able to play stuff at decent settings is over, which was one of the only arguments for consoles for a while, as a platform they were optimised for much better.

>>13640730

>pirating

Yeah anyone can pirate on a cheap box, fair call. I tend to buy stuff I like and sometimes will pirate it first to try.

That said as a school kid, yeah I'd pirate most of the time on my rig lol. Scraped together sheckels to buy used hardware and had a blast though, console games were/are expensive as hell back then. PC games were pricier too until steam came along. long live WON

>>13641020

AC in past was honestly one of the main titles that had my attention going back to PS3/PS4 but it's coming to PC properly in AC7. I can't wait.

>>13641051

>PCSX2 > RPCS3

Hadn't heard this before. Thanks for heads up. I tried bit of ePSXe on a temp i3 rig and it was 'okay', but keen to try PS3/PS2 when I find another decent clocking 2600k, if it can do it.

Waiting for Zen2. Want sweet 7nm 12core die(s) w/pcie4 for a long term future platform.

>>13641120

>emulate faster than scraping together shit for an old console

Yeah especially with some games harder to find.

With a quick internet connection and decentish PC you'd probably be right on the money there.

>>13641103

Agreed. PS2 is prevalent and cheap as fuck, even the PS1 roms are everywhere.

>>13632406

Gaming as a whole went to shit from the 7th gen onward. Xbox is more known for dudebro shooters, PS3 had some good variation in its exclusives like Uncharted, MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Demon's Souls etc.

>>13632284

>>2017

>>Many PS3 releases are considered all time classics, Halo 3 is the only 360 exclusive people are still positive about

Xbox one probably did a big retrospective shit on its older brother + Xbox 360 was only good at playing multiplatform games on your couch, most of those games are readily available on PC for oldfags anyway

>>13641130

>long live WON

>tfw you play the same pirated copy of half life for like 6 years then finally switch to Steam because everyone said it was a buggy pile of shit and someone else redeemed the key you were using

Heartbreaking.

>>13641345

>redeemed pirated key

Kek

You can't complain ;)

Still have an original HL2 Gordon freeman retail box laying around in mint condition. Orange box or some shit, but yeah you could add your original Hl1 titles to it and it added them on steam.

Was against steam initially because of the online component but it does work fine offline/shitty internet places where I seem to end up living.

Funny how it all panned out eh..

>>13632284

>When did the PS3 become the best console of its time?

When it was jailbroken

>>13641130

>Agreed on consoles getting some good stuff. That said if you look beyond the usual AAA bullshit there are plenty of awesome PC exclusives, indies and more to come.

I know this, and the games don't appeal to me. The awesome PC exclusives you talk about tend to be games that are in genres I don't bother with.

>The other reason I like PC is pure graphics grunt. Sure some ports are gimped but others are not, or are not ports and this is where the PC version shines IMO. That said PS4 and co got their shit looking much better.

don't care about gwaficks either. Nobody has bothered making a crysis 2 (in spirit) and the only games pushing advanced visuals are on PS4.

>>13641748

>I'm being tricked by smoke and mirrors

Consolefags everyone

>>13641387

I'm not complaining that I should have gotten the game with that key, but it was still sad at the time. Also, lamenting that I probably would have gotten it if I switched sooner. Making your DRM platform buggy as hell so that pirates don't think it will ever catch on is a good strategy I guess.

I have one of the retail Gordon boxes as well. I used to be more naive and take a very logical approach to buying games, so I bought Half Life 2 at launch, figuring that even if I spent a fraction of the hours I spent on HL1 it would be worth it. I guess it was technically worth it by those standards, but I am somewhat bitter over the fact that I would never go back and play HL2 now. Kind of like what happenes to me with Skyrim. The campaign levels simply don't stand up and the modding scene wasn't (and isn't) quite as magical as HL1s.

>>13641800

yes, i googled the image to get it. so now that you're done not arguing, kindly fuck off drone

>>13641819

that's nice

>>13641891

ok, still waiting for you to post some proof. How's your $700 mid range gpus treating you?

>>13641910

we're on an image board and you can't even post proof.

>he doesn't know performance over generations has stagnated with nvidia leading the graphics market and has sold what is incrementally mid-tier performance for enthusiast prices

damn, for such a fanboy you don't even seem to know what's going on in your favorite market.

>>13639093

is there a playable version of nier available on PC?

>>13641928

>I read a meme one time that Nvidia is fucking people so all the graphics cards cost millions and don't do shit!

Again, you know your facts. It's clear I'm talking with an Enlightened™ individual. Are you a Rick and Morty fan?

>>13641928

>performance stagnated

As much as I hate Jewvidya they have actually released much, much bigger incremental increases than e.g. Intel has… and pretty consistently too.

You can play most modern games GPU limited fine without a massively huge difference, using a 6 year old top end CPU. Try that with a 6970 or similar top tier GPU from then and let me know how you go. It's not happening unless you want to run peasant resolutions and probably turn it down a bit, if the feature set is supported..

>>13641998

how illiterate are you? Also I'm American, not Scottish.

>>13641996

The problem with Nvidia is they are consistently growing, but being in such a leading market position they are getting away with charging 20% performance increases over previous gen $500 GPUs and are charging $700 for the successor. Titan isn't an enthusiast card, it's a high end card. AMD needs to catch up. They see an opportunity to take advantage of consumers and they'll take it and stretch it into their leading market strategy.

>>13641970

im still a PC gamer, but now most of what i play is emulated console/arcade games. i own a ps4 for the 7-8 games but i refuse to install steam on my PC and i hate these "pc master race" people that are just valve/steam fanboys. as shitty as the console situations are with the online software and all that shit, atleast i dont have to install it on my PC, it stays on my ps4 hardware where its isolated.

>>13641998

manufacturer = producer = maker

c'mon nigger, language isn't that difficult of a concept.

you're aware of the problems in the vidya card industry, right? any pc gamer should be well aware of them. the only people that aren't are them are the "pc mustard" posers that jumped on the pc bandwagon at the same time the vidya "community" was flooded with normalfags.

>>13642015

They are increasing prices on what are mid range cards with small-mid sized GPUs. I made this chart to keep an eye on it. Little bit of a trend when AMD stopped forcing them to give consumers full size dies… I also started seriously investing in PC Gaming around the start of this chart with an X800XT

8800U - 484mm² 90nm

9800 - 324mm² 65nm

280 - 576mm² 65nm

480 - 529mm² 40nm $499

580 - 520mm² 40nm $499

680 - 294mm² 28nm $500

780 - 561mm² 28nm $649

780Ti - 561mm² 28nm $699

980 - 398mm² 28nm $549 < AMD high end competition falters after here

980Ti - 601 mm² 28nm $649

1080 - 314mm² 16nm $699

1080Ti(Pitan) - 471mm² 16nm $699

2080Ti/TitanV - 600km² 12nm SIX GORILLION DOLLARS

Funny part is the V100 or whatever latest one is 800mm² kek

If they do make a Vitan/consumer high end GPU next (likely), it'll be quite big too around 560-620mm² and not be so cheap. Expecting to be about 30% bigger than the Pitan after V100.

MUH TENSOUR COREZZZZ

>>13642046

>im still a PC gamer, but now most of what i play is emulated console/arcade games. i own a ps4 for the 7-8 games

I am by virtue of occasionally playing doujin games. I think most people who play PC games these days don't dare touch PC games. The few there are that are any good are too few to keep anyone busy for any meaningful time. My PS4 library has gotten pretty large with about 30 or so games. As for the other guy, I think he's too busy desperately signaling how not asshurt he is to acknowledge the issues of the market in good faith.

>>13642064

I started seriously with the x1K generation from ATi, had a Ti4200 for a few years before that. Are you familiar with AdoredTV? He's essentially documented the exact things you are. A key giveaway is in the GPU codenames with "XX4" usually being the mid-range codename. 1080 is GP104 - a midrange graphics card. Funniest shit to me was the founders edition, an underclocked scam that idiotic redditors still flocked to.

>>13642046

>types like shit

>tells me to use better language

Fuck off faggot.

>manufacturer = producer = maker

What do you even mean by this?

Of course I'm aware of problems in the video card industry, that's why I haven't bothered to upgrade in a long while, but I have to do a massive:

>implying those problems don't affect consoles too

Guess what, even with the problems in the video card industry PC still ends up stronger and cheaper if you're not some retarded ass consumer who buys into the hype and must have the top of the line shit every year the day it's released. I own a fuck of a lot of consoles, but that nigger said "the only games pushing advanced visuals are on PS4", and that shit is retarded, double so because framerate is part of visuals. Consolefags are legitimately retarded for assuming they have the advantage in any way.

>>13642090

you are actually too stupid to keep up. lurk more

>>13642100

you didn't say anything interesting, try that if (you) want attention

>>13642116

Stutterposting is never OK.

>>13642083

>Ti4200

Man I had such a hard on for those cards when I was rocking a TNT2 lol.

>AdoredTV

Seen a little bit but he's also an AMD fanboy a little too much. But sometimes gets shit right and it pisses off the rest of the fanboys, which makes for some hilarious salt mining.

I am an AMD fanboy but an honest one. Quite jelly of my buddy, he just got an 3 day old ex-demo 1800x/v64 rig the other day, full loop and 2/3rd of retail price. Hiding my credit card because they have more on offer :x steal of the century but would rather wait it out for Zen2.

>x04

Yeah well said they do make it obvious if you know what to look for.

GV104, flag that.

In some ways, the Titan is actually the value leader long term - you get a good 2 years out of of them at top of the pile, not bad.

Probably longer this time around as node shrinks are harder.

>Flounder Edition

<Reference Edition

Whatever the fuck you want to call that, it pissed a lot of fan boys off especially with the timed release. Much salt was mined then too.

Best part is it had half assed power circuitry but turned out it wasn't really an issue unless you were extremely OCin'g on chilled water or better.

>>13642090

i didnt tell you to use better language, i said to understand it better.

>i have to do a massive:

cock? seriously, what?

>visuals

i wasnt involved in that argument, but if he said the only games pushing advanced visuals are on ps4, then hes talking about the games, the framerate is a limitation of the console.

as someone who emulates ALOT i can tell you that the games themselves usually far surpass the visuals on the console its released for.

uncharted 4 shit sjw game i never played, nor will i ever is actually the most impressive looking game out right now. unless you can name some otherwise?

i also havnt upgraded my pc in a long ass time either, even my emulation of ps2 games is limited.

>>13642221

I'm an AMD fan too, but I think Adored is on point in pretty much all of his coverage. Curious what examples you'd have for him being more a delusional fanboy at times? At a price that cheap I think it would absolutely be worth it. Glad AMD CPUs are finally competitive. Intel's been stagnant for a long time, and it seems like they aren't turning things around if the internal info is true.

>In some ways, the Titan is actually the value leader long term - you get a good 2 years out of of them at top of the pile, not bad.

I can see what you mean, but I don't really play a lot of multiplats, too few that seem to be worth it. The ones that are worth it tend to have port plague on PC which just turns me off entirely. Feels like this has been the pattern for a long time now, and I'm ending up disinterested.

the reference/founder shit is just ridiculous. AMD is just following along on the same scumbag shit Nvidia started and it's not a good look for either of them. Can't even argue that AMD is somehow the good boi when they're doing stupid shit like this. Honestly the thing I'm most optimistic about is seeing how next generation Ryzen performs and how it'll end up implemented in consoles.

>>13642254

try older versions of PCSX2 if you're getting performance issues, especially if they are where you haven't been getting them before. Newer versions raise system requirements.

>>13632284

>Many PS3 releases are considered all time classics

Went through the thread to find any mention of what these "all-time classics" are supposed to be. Anyone?

>>13642319

Demon's Souls. Not sure what else.

>>13642347

>>DSO2 just released

>>Total War Warhammer 2 just released

dont care about these games, wrpgs aren't for me after playing the supposed best ones ever, anything lesser would just make the genre look worse to me. Not interested in strategy games, only one I've enjoyed was Majesty the fantasy kingdom sim which is explicitly not a strategy game.

>hat in time

might play on ps4 if it get a physical release

don't care to list 'em, but I'm sure you'll be getting a few ports from the set eventually

Also (1) and done OP praising Sony right after neofag dies, I wonder

>>13642365

>wrpgs aren't for me after playing the supposed best ones ever

You're missing out. What did you play?

>>13642379

the witcher 1, 2, planescape torment, fallout 1, 2, new vegas, nwn 1 & 2, mass effect 1, kotor 2 with the restoration mod, morrowind. Forgetting a few others, but overall it's not a genre for me regardless of who works on it. It's sort of like sea food. Sure I'm missing out on something, and I don't like that feeling, but there's just parts about it as a whole that I do not inherently enjoy.

>>13642365

>I played Baldur's Gate and didn't like it. Whats the point of playing any other RPG made outside of Japan?

Do you ever perform introspection? You're supposed to realize you are a retard for having these kinds of asinine thoughts. If you like tactical RPGs at all, you will enjoy DOS2. The only regard in which it is "lesser" is perhaps the quality of the writing. BG, while a classic, is painfully dated in its interface and bits of its mechanical design, mainly RTwP.

>>13642416

>He didn't like Fallout 1

Alright, I think RPGs aren't for you.

>>13642424

Dragon's Crown was for Vita as well.

>>13642421

>bc on windows

I have era appropriate machines for windows, so I'm not dealing with mediocre hacks and broken elements of games. that's a meme that's gotta die.

>>13642419

introspection is how I got where I am to this day. Why do you think I care so much about ownership and revolt against modern PC gaming? Not interested in DOS/2 at all. Have yet to see a compelling argument why I should be.

>>13642438

they are, just not western ones.

>>13642424

>i dont think theyre meant to be used as a period that ends a sentence, mid sentence without ever continuing the point. but maybe im wrong.

>implying that's how I used it

Quick English lesson then: It's used when you're using the previous statement to establish the next. See there. I even used it while teaching you. Now with that in mind, let's rexamine the statement in whole:

"but I have to do a massive:

>implying those problems don't affect consoles too"

Do you understand now, or do we need to get on a shorter bus?

>>13642424

Dragon's Dogma isn't an exclusive. Neither is Dragon's Crown.

>>13642416

You didn't like any of those? Wow. I guess you're right, RPGs just aren't for you. Well, at least you really tried to get into them.

>>13642454

just not western ones. My favorite Japanese ones usually approach story topics that interest me and have battles structured in such a way that they are a much more deliberate exploration of mechanics that I find engages me on a more natural level than western ones. Hard to describe at the moment (playing trouble witches origin with the cotton dlc rn)

>>13642475

>treating playing games gog has given away for free and are very easily pirated as some sort of achievement

this is the problem with the cancer race

>>13642471

>just not western ones

Not to be that guy, but most JRPGs aren't actually RPGs.

>battles structured in such a way that they are a much more deliberate exploration of mechanics

If you mean "turn-based," there are plenty of turn-based WRPGs.

But that's fine, some people just can't get into certain types of games. I'm the same way with strategy games; it's hard for me to care, probably because I'm not really playing a character.

>>13642507

>implying I'm treating it as an achievement

No, I'm just calling you a liar. Rare footage of 0b11b8 playing New Vegas.

>>13642416

What's wrong with seafood?

>>13642516

>Not to be that guy, but most JRPGs aren't actually RPGs.

I disagree, but I don't think it's a discussion worth having. console rpg and computer rpg get the point across pretty clearly.

>If you mean "turn-based," there are plenty of turn-based WRPGs.

I don't, there's much more to it. More in turn with the basics of game design of having mechanics, design and a system which defines game play.

>>13642448

>Not interested in DOS/2 at all. Have yet to see a compelling argument why I should be.

You don't have to argue about it though. Its on GOG, just pirate it and buy it later if you like it. Who knows, maybe you'll actually like it?

Here's my argument. You don't like Fallout 1. That tells me you aren't interested in games which are good at dynamic narratives and player agency, because that's what makes FO1 a masterpiece. Not so much the combat system and interface.

By your comments, it seems like you like JRPGs. Which typically focus on good turn based combat with amusing quirky character interactions, when done right.

DOS2 is really good at tactical combat and doesn't take itself too seriously, with amusing quirky characters. Huh. Sound familiar?

>>13642546

>DOS2 is really good at tactical combat and doesn't take itself too seriously, with amusing quirky characters. Huh. Sound familiar?

might be good, but I have a lot of other things to play. I'm sure you could understand why hearing a western game with quirky character isn't a killer selling point to me. When I think of quirky I think of Cotton from Fantastic Night Dreams or Mint from Threads of Fate.

>>13642550

EO is solid

>>13642524

Oh my god, you are so fucking retarded, and stubborn to boot. Okay, let me bring in the whole statement:

"Of course I'm aware of problems in the video card industry, that's why I haven't bothered to upgrade in a long while, but I have to do a massive:

>implying those problems don't affect consoles too"

To slow it down even more for you because clearly English is your second language (at least I really fucking hope it is):

"Of course I'm aware of problems in the video card industry, that's why I haven't bothered to upgrade in a long while, but it is absurd that you're implying those problems don't affect the industry."

There? does that make sense to you? Boy, you sure are fitting in. Gotta ask, which site did you leave, NeoGaf or Reddit?

>>13642550

Nips made a bunch of their own Wizardry games, though.

>>13642283

>Adored examples

From memory he got caught up in the vega hypetrain pretty bad and said a few silly things.

There are other examples but would need time to find them. Might have been some Async BS. But tbh that was pretty clouded, because ngreedia didn't get it sorted on maxwell, on paxwell it was only ho humm.

But when he gets it right, he's bang on point and that irritates people because they can't totally discredit him, regardless of how much salt they produce.

>AMD founder BS

Yeah they did a little this time, but Vega was a real prick to be priced well, it cost them a lot of $ to make… razor thin margins and all and they didn't want to be bitched at for mining sucking the cards up. Ended up making it so power hungry the miners didn't care, Kek.

Plenty in stock locally now, they also dropped the $300 I expected after 2 months. I never buy launch cards any more because of that.

>>13642542

>the basics of game design of having mechanics, design and a system which defines game play.

… So a video game? This a nothing statement.

>>13642584

>vega hypetrain pretty bad and said a few silly things.

he's been saying since January last year iirc that vega is looking like a bad card. I think you might want to review some of his stuff. I think Vega as a project at RTG might have been a mistake when you look at the time it took to get the results they did.

>>13642602

yeah, japs just do it better.

>>13642630

>yeah, japs just do it better.

Self Awareness: 0

>>13642642

-t. neofag

>>13642300

thanks for the advice, but my PC is pretty low spec right now since my good video card died. (also, its 1st gen PCIe on one PC and AGP8x on the other)., i cant even run most PS1 games on full settings without severe problems.

>>13642578

im an oldfag. been here since summer. but i can tell by your posts that youre from reddit, even though you hated your old home its all you knew, but its still your home. dont try to pretend it isnt.

btw, your example still doesnt make any sense.

>I haven't bothered to upgrade in a long while, but I have to do a massive:

>>implying those problems don't affect consoles too"

is not the same as saying:

>I haven't bothered to upgrade in a long while, but it is absurd that you're implying those problems don't affect the industry.

youre retarded for 2 reasons, 1 i wasnt implying that at all so wtf were you even trying to say here. and 2, what was massive? my implication?

no… i think youre just a retard. maybe try using an actual example of someone using colons correctly, instead of your broken method youre desperately trying to defend.

>>13642669

>posting sony mascots

sure thing neofag, no wonder you worship the west so much.

>>13642696

>thanks for the advice, but my PC is pretty low spec right now since my good video card died. (also, its 1st gen PCIe on one PC and AGP8x on the other)., i cant even run most PS1 games on full settings without severe problems.

Jeez, I'm running like 2012 hardware (fx6300, hd7850) and even I think you need to upgrade.

>>13642728

learn to read id's, neofag.

>>13642741

I was replying to you, what makes you think I wasn't? Though I also think you're samefagging as you two faggots type in the same retarded way.

>>13642708

>>13642728

>being this new

step it up, youre embarrassing yourself.

>>13642710

why? what new game is worth upgrading for?

>>13642749

>the Wizardry foreign rights were bought by another company.

That explains a lot.

>>13642750

>why? what new game is worth upgrading for?

same reason I'm upgrading, running windows and extracting archives and making webms.

>>13642761

at least someone cares about the IP enough to keep it alive. Wasn't Ubisoft handling it before that buyout?

>>13642750

>implying I don't read IDs

I've been reading your ids this whole time, I still say you're same fagging as you never reply at the same time and type in the same retarded way. But to be clear, I was replying to him, just mentioning your hilarious statement.

>>13642788

was the fx6300 in laptops at all?

Waiting for the synced up reply now. Don't let me down Agent Smith.

>>13642823

I think you might be missing what he's actually saying, are you ESL? perhaps shitskin?

>>13642854

It's really obvious. Honestly you'd think he'd be better by now.

>>13642859

I didn't specify nigger, I was leaning more towards BR since you are such a PC gaming fan. You've been exceptionally honest.

>>13642873

>implying you're not samefagging with a larger number than that

>im an oldfag. been here since summer.

So where did you come from before that then?

>>13642880

What are you even talking about here? What conversation do you think you're having? I wasn't asking where you think I'm from. Learn to fucking read and comprehend shit. I was asking you what I had apparently missed in what he was saying, and giving you a chance to clarify since your understanding of the language is clearly so much better.

Fuck NeoFAG, at least keep up.

>>13642886

crysis still looks pretty decent with a good TOD mod, what a shame you need to use the 60fps multiplayer which looks notably worse so the integrated GPU tier system in the PS4 can keep up.

>>13642892

it is a lot better, thank you for understanding.

>>13642903

>(36) + (10)

Nigger, what color of brown is your skin? I know it is so don't lie. You're one of those weeb niggers aren't you?

>>13642947

I've been here since 2014. So, let me ask again, newfag, where do you come from? I'm betting on Reddit.

>>13642947

his name is drake fortune

>>13642921

you were funnier when you accused others of id hopping with nujack pictures while you id hopped redditgaffer

>>13642968

still looks better than any other game sadly, what a shame an integrated gpu used in laptops is outputting better gwaficks than a titan xp

>>13642963

>(38) + (11)

>>13642975

>he defends Uncharted

CUCKED

>>13642958

been here since /ebola/ was above pol and v, and long before /wx/ and /hebe/ got shoa'd. can you tell me what "summer" that was newfriend?

>>13643060

you're a self-admitted nigger, you don't even know what meta means. go back to reddit, they miss you there.

>>13643186

>real record***

>(1) MORE FOR YA!

>>13643183

>i have to cherry pick images because i cant find anything that directly blows uncharted 4 out.

cmon nigger, step it up. the picutres i posted look way better than any of the 4 you posted.

>>13643186

>being this hopeless

>being this new

>being this homo

take your pills anon

>>13643294

those arent bullshots. theyre from the "photo" mode of the game. theres tons more like it. "the order 1488" has the same shit. hence why i said post videos, since pics mean little.

>>13643267

whatever you tell yourself to make you feel better about being buttblasted by newfriends on the internet

>samefag gave up when I went to fix lunch

wew.

>>13643338

>1st pic

Damn that looks terrible. GTAV looks better than than that shit.

>>13643459

and graphical technology barely developed over those years it seems.

Only because it was supported far longer than the Wii or 360. The ps3 had the worst launch but because it was supported for 4 years longer than the other 2 it got the most in the end.

>>13643533

But how many PC only AAA games are there even? I can't think of any.

>>13643575

well, the big PC games are garbage like LOL, DOTA, WOW, and some RTS/SIM games. everything else is a multiplat. but i just think its interesting that the best looking games currently in the industry are developed for a low powered console.

people blame consoles for holding back PC graphics, but i think the average PC gamer theyre considering before making a pc game and those average pc gamers play minecraft, candy crush, farmville, and the above mentioned and probably on low powered hardware. why would they bother pushing the PC envelope? last pc game to try to do that was crysis, and the game became a joke because nobody could run it… except myself at the time until they did the dx10 upgrade that made it so i couldnt set anything to "ultra"

>>13643533

>>13643482

>>13643575

>>13643644

>Hes samefaggign again

>You will never be this pathetic

Have an RTT faggot

>>13643700

Also:

>he defends sony

>calls others casual

Consolefags are the definition of casual champ.

>>13644041

>What is a VPN?

WE

>>13643644

>everything else is a multiplat.

Exactly, and you still don't think that consoles are holding graphics back?

>but i just think its interesting that the best looking games currently in the industry are developed for a low powered console.

Because those are the games with the money being poured into them, and all those games while struggling on console look better run better on PC granted that you might need a monster pc because most games coming out nowadays are unoptimized pieces of shit

>>13644065

>Being an absolute retard.

>>13644083

>Being an absolute retard.

I don't defend shit tier practises and pretend like consoles don't hold tech and graphical power back because AAA shit publishers want only the normalfag audience and cut corners everywhere anyway.

Heres how a a PC focused game made by 50 turkroaches with a shit tier budget and no publisher looks like.

>>13633078

>>13633551

This exactly. CG was supposed to help special effects, not make them worse.

Also, do you guys remember robocop's theme song?

>he is a robot

>he is a cop

>he is a ro~bo~cop

Good times