1d2394 No.13584169
>>13584152
>no WWI Total War
>would probably play like fucking Empire if it came out
7c20a3 No.13584243
>>13584152
Hey look, it's *not* the globe. I'm hungry.
f2df00 No.13584252
>total wa wa 2 map is literally 5 times the size of the original
>they want to put the two together anyway
Why. Athel Loren would be like 1 zone.
98d549 No.13584267
>>13584152
Don't we already have two threads for Total War?
>>13584252
>He doesn't to launch a crusade from Bretonia in to Naggarond and Lustria to remove knife ears and fur jews
95a9ff No.13584277
>>13584152
I don't understand. Why wouldn't the whole "earth" be The Empire? Doesn't the Empire of Human take up like 30 million solar systems or something like that?
9e4a57 No.13584339
>no Old Testament: Total War taking place between 1000~500 BC featuring Babylon, Egypt, Israel, Canaanites, Phillistines, Assyria, Persia and early Greeks
>champion units like David and Goliath
>Israel has a "Senate" system, which is God
>if Israel listens to God, gets bonuses in war
>if Israel disobeys God, gets penalties
'Rise of Persia' is the closest thing we have, but that mod is fucking dead. v3 is never coming out.
5a10b9 No.13584853
>>13584169
> trench warfare
> heavy artillery and armour
it touches my war boner itch, however, like some other anon said, it wouldn't really be that good as a TW game
5a10b9 No.13584864
>>13584277
I don't know man, I know literally nill things about warhammer lore
5a10b9 No.13584874
>>13584267
>Don't we already have two threads for Total War?
other /total war/ is bump locked, and the other thread is more about shitposting on warhammer
6590b9 No.13584889
>>13584277
Warhammer fantasy and warhammer 40k are two separate universes*.
*Maybe not
5a10b9 No.13584895
anyway, serious game related question over Attila
playing as the great migrators, when do you settle? is it worth it?
from what I could gather the roving bands are cheaper and quicker to build stuff (limited by growth), however their buildings are much lower output compared to the fixed ones,
and thus, hordes are nice but very expansive to maintain an elite army, so they can also be vulnerable to stronger armies if you're trying to keep only garrison forces
but likewise, having mobile cities you can keep on the move, trying to avoid enemy death stacks and sacking your way to whatever
479547 No.13584896
>like the fist one
>pirate the new one
>play as the lizard dudes
>shit's alright. havin' fun I guess
>time to cast the next to last rune spell or whatever it's called
>5 chaos legions spawn randomly nowhere near my troops
>rats pay and spawn huge army next to my capital
>elves pay and spawn a dragon army next to the rats
>alt+f4 uninstall.exe
the game isn't that bad, but this mechanic is really retarded
0bc502 No.13584915
>>13584896
Did you not garrison armies at the ritual sites? The combined forces of a fully developed garrison and a good army are easy autoresolve wins.
55f9df No.13584918
>>13584896
it pays off to wait to complete the ritual until you're overpowered as fuck because their isn't really a time limit and the ai will fuck with each other to prevent other rituals from completing
479547 No.13584928
>>13584915
I expanded too much so my armies are spread out. if I garrison my armies and chaos spawns at the edge of my territory then I lose everythin up to my capital. I'm considering savescumming
>>13584918
I would wait, but the elves are in the lead. I need to catch up.
what happens when they complete the ritual before me?
dd641e No.13584952
>>13584277
That's warhammer 40k, in warhammer fantasy (or just "warhammer" seeing as it came first) humans aren't really united at all, I dont think they are even the dominant species. They do still have an emperor though.
ef230c No.13584960
>>13584889
It's pretty clear that they're separate now, I think. It used to be that the 40K universe was a world inside a wizard's crystal ball and that the fantasy universe was a planet trapped in a perpetual warp storm but they quietly stopped talking about it.
On topic, Europa Barbarorum is really good. I thought that
>muh historical accuracy
would make it tedious to play but they actually managed to make a compelling mod with solid gameplay. Buildings are really expensive so you need to choose where and what to develop carefully. Units are expensive as fuck too compared to the base game so you can't just spam units. My only issue is that the AI players get high command generals for free. Even my veteran of a dozen battles only has 3 command stars. Still, it's not like I've lost a battle yet.
741c1a No.13585008
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13584960
Some of the old lore that hasn't been specifically retconned has heavily implied that the two universes are the same in some manner.
Its unclear how, since magic in warhammer is nothing like psycher powers in 40k. And 40k orks know instinctively how to make guns and advanced tech, something regular warhammer orcs do not.
There is definitely some kind of connection.
16e038 No.13585015
>>13584252
Provinces of the combined map were leaked, they only removed provinces in Southlands and I think in Naggaroth, Old World is still the same size plus Skavenblight.
4b1aba No.13585023
>>13584152
>click on Phoenix guard
>no sound
fucking CA cutting corners thinking we won't notice
e95556 No.13585031
I'm really hoping the Mortal Empires update can be cracked.
70ae2f No.13585066
>>13585023
Eh? It works fine for me
>>13585031
Really worried about that, especially if it can't and other companies notice and start getting ideas
e95556 No.13585079
>>13585066
Yeah, because you have to have both games to get the update, so how would you crack that exactly? Wouldn't both cracked game versions have to be both updates to the last patch? WH1 still hasn't received the Norsca crack yet. The mortal empires update looks great, but I'm still not giving a dime to these greedy kikes at Sega/CA.
Damn shame too, if they weren't such greedy cocksuckers they would probably get more sales.
4f1096 No.13585080
>>13585008
It's called the warp and that's all there really is now. In older campaigns you could get bolters and other 40k weapons as rewards because Chaos wanted to win so badly they cheated. I think it is safe to say that they are separate completely now that the Great Horned Rat is Chaos god of what I don't fucking know. It's really retarded
741c1a No.13585094
>>13585023
They work fine for me too.
They speak with all the quotable lines you'd expect from quality voice acting for this unit. Really fits their character.
5a10b9 No.13585112
>>13584960
>>13585008
isn't 40K just warhammer 40 thousand years in the future
then it makes perfect sense of so much stuff being different and species evolving
e95556 No.13585117
>>13585112
No shit you dumb faggot.
5a10b9 No.13585123
>>13585117
>dumb faggot
I am the one getting called dumb for just pointing the obvious?
032231 No.13585129
>>13584169
>>13584853
I think Napoleon total war has a Great War mod. Artillery is overpowered as hell and the AI is too dumb to move away from it, so basically you're getting the most authentic WWI experience possible.
ef230c No.13585139
>>13585112
No, 40k is explicitly the real world 40 thousand years in the future. Warhammer Fantasy actually takes place in an entirely ficional realm.
4f1096 No.13585148
>>13585129
I still have it installed on my game. It's fun as fuck watching 3 entire armies get mowed down by 15 units of machine guns while they desperately scramble to get a usable formation that won't blast half of their forces away with friendly fire.
e95556 No.13585157
>>13585129
>>13585148
Never played this mod, is it worth it just to play the German empire?
4f1096 No.13585222
>>13585157
I don't know if it's still being worked on, but from what I remember, the campaign is a little buggy as the ai will zerg rush with conscripts and the pathfinding is kind of fucked. I use it mostly for custom battles.
43a5b4 No.13585321
I like Warhammer and I like Total War, I don't like Total War Warhammer.
9e4a57 No.13585336
>>13584960
On EB, with giant empires you often need to disband some starting units that cost way too much.
Carthage for example, you're losing money because of upkeep. So you have to either disband some navy or elephants.
Besides that, excellent mod. Only 270's BC kids will remember this.
76dfdb No.13585949
People in the last thread were talking about mortars and howitzers in Empire being OP, what mods were you using? At release they could completely destroy a line infantry unit before it could get across the battlefield, but then later they got nerfed. I tried Empire again recently and the mortars wouldn't be able to take out a single enemy unit in a siege before time ran out. The shrapnel shells were also completely broken, and would just fly over the heads of the enemy.
061a00 No.13586014
>>13585949
Darthmod of course
Percussion shots can still route line infantry in one or two solid hits and if something walks into a cloud of quicklime it can easily kill more then half the unit. If you're just using one or two mortar batteries, use more. Also, if they're placed at odd angles it'll sometimes cause the shot to go way over or way under.
6d7a87 No.13586381
>Ikit Claw
Great job at not including the best absolute madrat.
cc757e No.13586389
>>13585023
Aren't Phoenix Guard supposed to be silent?
cc757e No.13586412
>>13585079
If this was a historical title I'd agree with you. But every race is unique in ways that requires a lot more work to implement than normal. This is why the DLC whoring doesn't really bother me a much as it normally would.
5a10b9 No.13586984
>>13584895
serious question though, anyone?
feels like barely anyone actually played attila
061a00 No.13587112
>>13586984
Tried it, didn't like it. Felt like a shell of what it could be and what other Total War games are. I think I actually disliked it so much at the time I straight up refunded it.
5a10b9 No.13588217
>>13587112
>Felt like a shell of what it could be and what other Total War games are
really? this is one of the most challenging and in-depth campaign TW game I've seen so far
literally, I begun as one of the great migrators, everything was all good and dandy raiding and pillaging around,
however when I finally decided to settle down my economy went down the drain and I'm now facing constant rebellions, not to mention the threat of romans around the corner
16e038 No.13588260
>>13588217
Either grab somewhere defensible like Iberia or Britain or stay running around raiding shit until Attila shows up and everyone starts throwing everything at him. Britain is the best place to get since once you secure the isles no one can touch you otherwise places next to the mediterranean are the ones you'll want to settle since during the campaign you'll get ice age events that will drastically drop food production of everywhere else.
cd4af6 No.13588295
>>13585080
>Great Horned Rat is Chaos god of what I don't fucking know. It's really retarded
Unless they want to take away the disease aspect of Nurgle and give that to ratboy and just make Nurgle a pure death god then it really doesn't make much sense.
dde040 No.13588446
>>13584152
lol, looks like someone tried really hard not to make a map of the world. Warhammer universe is gay as fuck and for fags. Total war is best when it's historical
5a10b9 No.13588789
>>13588260
I've settled in the Iberia peninsula, specifically, the corner of Galicia
I was able to raid pretty much every roman city on the way there, they are hard at first but as soon as the huns everyone starts to pile up against them
still its good to try and avoid their stacks, otherwise it would be certain death, managed to pile 25k that way
still when I finally went to settle, got a whole province, but the even then massive public order, food, religion, plus foreign buildings penalties where piling up
nearly got dead between revolts and romans armies gangbang,
only a few years later I was able to stabilize it and start getting some financial security,
still its one of the coolest features in campaign I've ever seen in TW, it totally changes the overall scheme of things
and for some reason I just can't stop playing it
4f1096 No.13588891
>>13588295
I don't question it. I stopped paying attention after they released End Times because of how stupid it became. "Oh no! Slaanesh has been kidnapped even though he/she/it probably enjoys the attention so we must start a civil war between loyalist demons and Khornate/the retards who like Archaon demons! But wait! THERE'S SIMGARINES! FUCKING WOW! ALSO, ALL OF THE ELVES ARE ONE RACE AGAIN UNDER THE TRUE PHOENIX KING(tm) MALERION(tm)! WOAH!"
5bc6d4 No.13588898
>>13584243
study cartology, come back.
these maps are purposefully distorted to highlight different features, such as cities ports rivers islands and bays. a ship carryied many maps for many purposes
2064b9 No.13588920
>>13584960
>>13585008
I could be wrong but I think I recall some fluff in RT days implying that the Warhammer world was a planet in the eye of terror.
It's about the only way I could see all the races on ne planet anyway.
d7f675 No.13588957
>>13584339
>1000~500 BC
Cave men era?
ca050d No.13588966
>>13585015
yep, here is a leaked map with all the provinces
9e4a57 No.13589252
>>13588957
Are you retarded?
81f0d9 No.13589300
>>13589252
Maybe he's just not white or asian.
5e5938 No.13589348
>>13585008
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME YOU CUCKS, HOWEVER IT IS IMPLIED THAT THE WARP SOMEHOW LINKS EVERY REALITY TOGETHER AND THE OLD ONES ARE IN FACT THE SAME OLD ONES FROM 40K
From the top of my head, imperial troops from Warhammer Fantasy finds KALDOR DRAIGO inside a Nurgle controlled part of the warp. Also just as some kind of easter eggs some skaven contact a Eldar Craftworld after raiding a lizardmen city and finding a device.
5e826b No.13589373
>>13589348
sources? are they from the End Times Novel?
2f1bfc No.13589402
>>13588966
That sucks.
I kinda wished to see Chaos Dwarves, orge kingdoms and nippon in WH3.
4f1096 No.13589456
>>13589348
I thought it was confirmed that the "silver knight" that was seen in the Warp was a Storm Eternal or whatever the fuck those not-Ultragroundmarines are.
5e5938 No.13589493
>>13589373
Yes it is.
>>13589402
They justified the squish as diversifying gameplay, turns out freakish huge continent just limits what factions you end up fighting on the early rounds, also if the leak is true they kept the chaos wastes so it seems we are using this map for wh3
>>13589456
If I am not mistaken it was Matt Ward that wrote that bit and it`s no secret he loves Kaldor Draigo, the description is ambiguous enough so we will never be sure.
4f1096 No.13589521
>>13589493
The squish can also be justified in that there is no naval combat unless they are planning that for the third game, but that is highly unlikely so travelling from Nippon to Ulthuan would take a bakers dozen worth of turns with high risk low rewards as autoresolve is always fucked in Total War.
2092f7 No.13589665
>>13588898
OP's picture is a map of the Warhammer Fantasy world, not ours
5e826b No.13589838
>>13589493
Was it Legit (Heard it from my Friend) that Malekith Did Nothing Wrong and that The Previous Phoenix Kangz cheated using magic, He got burned not because he had evil intent but because he got scared of not being a good leader and Dark Elves existance was justified because the phoenix kings were all not worthy and as punishment for putting pretenders on the thrown and it was ok for Malekith to genocide his own people then millennium later they just slap his wrist and became phoenix king
741c1a No.13589862
>>13589838
Yeah, apparently Malekith was a pretty nice guy after all and the thousand year civil war, kidnappings, enslavement, trying to sink the entire continent into the sea out of spite when he couldn't win the war, millenia of murderraping everyone, chaos cults and all that stuff, it was just a misunderstanding, so only the unreasonable elves would hold any kind of grudges over that…
dd641e No.13590122
>>13585080
I thought the the korned rat was nurgle? or is that just clan pestilence smoking one too many mushrooms with the night goblins?
dd641e No.13590129
>>13589402
oh they will come soon anon, As DLC
23fb3a No.13590149
>>13590122
Early lore had the Horned Rat "nibbling at the edges of Nurgles realm" implying he was trying to take over Nurgles place as Chaos God of disease. Later lore makes clan Pestilens seem more like Nurgles 5th column in the Skaven, Pestinlens being the cause of both Skaven civil wars and responsible for causing the Skaven population to collapse via plague every time it gets too big, thereby reducing the number of worshipers to give the Horned Rat power.
1d2394 No.13590175
>>13584853
I beg to differ, but either it would concentrate its scope only around Verdun's area so it makes sense that hundreds upon hundreds of soldiers lose lives over there, or it was a big World War kind of map with regions coupled as a concept to individual cities, so you can for example take possession of Strasbourg as Germany but, unless you specifically won against the French, the Alsace region would still fall within their influence. I also thought that cities could be divided into leisure cities (to drive the economy, build a spy network and overall to function as neutral zones for non-aligned countries), industrial cities (to recruit mechanized units instead of plain infantry) and tertiary cities (so research, diplomacy etc. would find their cores there) and most of the building construction would be centered around rebuilding what gets destroyed as well as managing technological advancements rather than stuff like religion or law. It could also provide a bigger challenge with a cap to how many troops each region would be physically able to output and it would give troops from varying races but administered by a single country more variety.
>>13585129
Name?
eb69db No.13590198
>>13584152
>> Do you like Warhammer?
I used to like i.
Then aAge of Shitmar happened and GW basically killed it.
Can't even give a shit about CAs game thanks to their incredible jewery.
741c1a No.13590231
>>13590198
But anon, Warhammer I was based on the old Storm of Chaos campaign, not endtimes or age of sigmarines
16e038 No.13590392
>>13588789
I feel Attila was really underrated because people still were sore over Rome 2, the game wasn't perfect but captured the apocalyptic feeling of the era really well.
5e826b No.13590404
>>13590392
only annoying part is that AI rarely Colonize which leads to a wasteland late game
c75895 No.13590414
>>13590404
There are mods that make the AI settle desolated regions.
5e826b No.13590426
>>13590414
true, but there are still cases they rarely venture out and get said Settlements
c75895 No.13590505
if we're on the topic of attila, is there a way to pirate the DLC's and have them run on a legitimate steam version? i bought the game ages ago while it was on sale for cheap, but never bothered to even install it since i figured without any DLC it would be a pile of shit
1e05b1 No.13590544
I see you guys always talk about campaigns but I never play the campaign, I just set up custom battles and imagine a story in my mind. Am I exceptionally autistic?
5a10b9 No.13590601
>>13590544
>Am I exceptionally autistic?
yes
>>13590404
>that AI rarely Colonize
I don't think that is entirely true, colonizing is expensive but not ''that' 'much
and if it was too cheap, there would be nearly no point on razing it at all
besides that, very few factions to burn it to the ground, and the only that benefits from it is Attila Huns I've think
what should actually happen is that the uprooted tribes to travel do desolate places where they can grow a bit and settle (I've seen it happen)
what really is annoying as fuck, is that looting earns more money than sacking in most instances,
and that rebels usually take over a lot shit due to the rampant low public order and the AI inability to deal with it
f50240 No.13590665
>>13585008
>And 40k orks know instinctively how to make guns and advanced tech, something regular warhammer orcs do not.
While orks and orcs are indeed not the same thing, I should point out that there is a such thing as feral orks in 40K.
3f11d0 No.13591905
>>13590365
Well it seems like it wont be long now if the thread on twc is to be believed
741c1a No.13593018
>>13590665
If they where 40k orks, wouldn't they reproduce at an insane rate, overrunning the whole planet in a matter of a few years at most, and more pressingly, as the ork population grows, shouldn't mekboys and the like crop up and the orks start to develop tech of their own, far beyond what a medieval society on one continent could ever hope to control?
Where are the bigger squig variants that crop up where orks are?
Also, what is the 40k equivalent of a black orc?
5a10b9 No.13593193
> barbarian slave girl
> + morale and attack to commanding force
this is lewd
0b0e57 No.13593200
>>13591905
wtf are those graphics dude you can play much better games by ca they released like this year
4f1096 No.13593295
>>13593018
The only reason Orcs haven't overrun the planet is because of retconned lore about them needing to reproduce with their BGC. Yes, you heard me right, there was at one point, female Orcs. As for a Black Orc equivalent, wouldn't that be Meganobz?
e9235f No.13594290
>>13584895
WHY THE FUCK IS THE IBERIAN BROWN?
2092f7 No.13594322
>>13594290
Carthaginians shouldn't be blacks either
ff1853 No.13594338
>>13594290
>>13594322
So are the Persians and Egyptians. Shit map tbh.
e9235f No.13594509
>>13594338
Fixed after 9,001 hours in MS Paint and half as much in GIMP.
e9235f No.13594538
>>13594509
Just realize the original still has some paint problems. Here's a better one. Also, decided to make the Arab a bit darker.
5e826b No.13594554
>>13594538
If Only Sassanid Empire Kicked Mohammed's Ass then Islam wouldn't have risen
5a10b9 No.13594561
>>13594322
>>13594290
>>13594338
amazing that nearly always racism is following by a strong display stupidity
e9235f No.13594580
>>13594538
Okay, think all the errors are fixed.
e9235f No.13594600
>>13594561
You nigger faggot, you don't have to a "racist" to get upset when history is presented ahistorically. Iberians are Germanic, Nubians are close to Egyptians and are both red (not to be confused with the Nubi, who are black), and Carthaginians were a Semitic people, not fucking niggers like you.
6c8c2c No.13594724
>>13594561
go back to cuckchan you faggot
597c57 No.13594729
>>13585129
I hate how much everything fucking costs in that game.
>>13585222
>still being worked on
lol no it's been in 5.1 for years now and there's been no word from the author
046810 No.13594760
>>13594561
Are you talking about yourself?
5e826b No.13594764
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
any anons playing Darthmod mod for Napoleon, How do you enable Embed related, Because said mod removed march songs
597c57 No.13594857
>>13594764
In the launcher under sounds
5e826b No.13594900
>>13594857
ok, thanks anon
4c0db3 No.13594914
>>13594633
Thank you for correcting the record ;) . We wouldn't want to misrepresent history now
6dfdca No.13595348
>tfw no mesoamerica themed total war game
The Medieval II expansion doesn't count
e9235f No.13595376
>>13595348
>doesn't count
Why not?
001de7 No.13595436
>>13595376
because it's an expansion. Frankly, a game centered around that area and time period would be quite lacking in unit variety and strategic capabilities
6dfdca No.13595446
>>13595376
I want the entire game designed around it and I want it designed with the benefits of modern hardware
597c57 No.13595457
>>13595348
Fucking hated that Stainless Steel removed the Americas from the map.
6dfdca No.13595462
>>13595436
>Frankly, a game centered around that area and time period would be quite lacking in unit variety and strategic capabilities
It really would not be. The second image in >>13595348 alone shows a huge variety in gear and armnants for Aztec troops from Tenochtitlan, there's a similar amount of variety for other kingdoms and empires in the region, though we have less records of what they were for others, but still a decent amount.
I can dump more pages from that book that goes over different troop types and military gear, though it describes more about what they wore moreso then what they did or how they were used in battle (since unfornately none of our primary sources really go into detail about mesoamerican battle tactics and organization, only military organization in terms of ranks and equipment).
There's enough variety for sure, though the gameplay might need to be redesiend with some mechanices replaced or changed due to the lack of calvery (since there were no beasts of burden or horses in the region). It's not well known, but Mesoamerica actually did have siege towers (you can see one in a maya mural at chichen itza), so siege weapons and platforms are still do-able.
Let me know if you want me to keep dumping.
e9235f No.13595470
Are the killing animations that noticeable in Empire/Napoleonic total war? From videos it looks atrocious.
e9235f No.13595472
>>13595470
Also, of the two, which should I get/is there a huge difference between them?
6dfdca No.13595487
>>13595462
Pic of the siege tower in the mural. It's a bit hard to see but it's in the lower right
I'm heading to bed since it's 4am but if people want more info on aztec/mesoamerican troop types and shit I can dump more stuff/link to resources tommorow
fd91de No.13595633
597c57 No.13595641
>>13595470
They're fucking horrible. Fort battles are unplayable since units will be stuck doing kill moves for 30 minutes.
If you try to use cavalry to mop up retreating enemy units you have to babysit them so they will keep attacking the unit. They will only attack one enemy unit in a kill move and then do nothing else unless told.
e9235f No.13595663
>>13595641
So why is it recommended on /v/'s wiki? And I assume the later games (like Shogun 2) are better?
597c57 No.13595680
>>13595663
>So why is it recommended on /v/'s wiki?
dunno lol
>Shogun 2
Same engine, same problems. No amount of polish can cover up the fact that units will only fight 1 on 1. So even if a 200 unit Samurai regiment is surrounding 5 Yari Ashigaru only 5 Samurai will fight while everyone else sits around.
71b2c4 No.13595682
>>13595348
Basically Maya/Inca/Aztec + Ancient aliens.
e9235f No.13595689
>>13595680
So wait until they decide to use a new engine then? That's a shame. I was looking forward to playing Shogun 2.
e9235f No.13595699
>>13595682
The ayy kangz should be a tongue-in-cheek DLC, like Blood Dragon or something.
a2a978 No.13595711
>>13584152
>> Do you like Warhammer?
No damage sponge heroes are gay and don't belong in total war.
e9235f No.13595726
What is the difference between the first and second TW Warhammer game? Why are they making a sequel so soon?
>>13595711
Faggot.
597c57 No.13595774
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13595726
>Why are they making a sequel so soon?
7fc4eb No.13595790
>>13595726
He's not wrong, you know.
e9235f No.13595807
>>13595774
Well, obviously. But why Warhammer? People already spent $100+ on the first one, and TW is mostly played by people who don't typically fall for these tricks r-right?. Do they really expect people to fork over another $100+? There's hardly a difference between the two games I'm willing to bet.
6dfdca No.13595814
>>13595682
>inca
>mesoamerica
The incans were andean m8, they were as far from the aztecs as rome is from baghdad.
e9235f No.13595818
>>13595790
They don't belong in TW I agree, but they're not gay.
be0c02 No.13595900
So, for Wawa 1 & 2, Is the Steel Faith mod good enough, or is there any mod that should be recommended to play? Im curious.
7fc4eb No.13595924
>>13591905
>using pikemen
How can you stand them?
I can't think of a more annoying unit type.
Also, nice Pergamon.
I was thinking about playing it when the new patch comes out.
fc56f2 No.13596152
>>13595924
>How can you stand them?
I dont really,
I just needed something to soak up arrows while I was fighting Pontus and Armenia and they did pretty good since they could actually block those fucking cataphract charges without losing half the regiment
>nice Pergamon
Thanks
They have it pretty nice in the beginning since Egypt only has 1 full stack near their region which usually gets half depleted by taking Sardis from the Seleukids and their other settlements only have minor garrisons (had at most 4-5 units+general) which can be taken easily and make some pretty penny
The only annoyance you have really are the Galatians who try to sell themselves as mercenaries to you, which are not worth it (in terms of units, the extra upkeep and its actually one of the requirements for one of the reforms to kill 8 or so stacks) and will become a rebel stack next to Pergamon if you decline their offer
7fc4eb No.13596189
>>13596152
I figured you'd be fighting Egypt early on, since you're allied to the Seleukids.
I don't think they can even recruit anything from most of those towns on the southern Anatolian coast.
I also found it really annoying that the AI can sometimes get a full garrison for free (scripted) when you besiege a city after only one turn, but I haven't been playing the newer versions a lot. I'm just waiting for 2.3.
Is there any way to get real heavy cavalry as Pergamon through reforms?
fc56f2 No.13596261
>>13596189
>Is there any way to get real heavy cavalry as Pergamon through reforms?
Yeah the second reform (the one that requires you to kill Galatians) gets you Hetairoi and I think Hippeis, but thats the heaviest cav you are going to get without taking in Persian auxiliaries
7fc4eb No.13596285
>>13596261
Oh well.
At least I get something.
The rest of the roster is pretty good, so it's fine.
5a10b9 No.13596656
>>13594600
https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-10-28/im-white-barcelona-los-angeles-im-hispanic
> I was born and raised in Barcelona, (U+200B was here)(U+200B was here)in northeast Spain, and although I had never given much thought to this matter, I always thought I was white. With dark Mediterranean features, but white.
> Genetically speaking, we Spaniards are a mix of the different civilizations that have settled in the Iberian Peninsula throughout the centuries: the Visigoths from northern Europe, the Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans from the Mediterranean region and the Moors from northern Africa.
why are people so fucking afraid of being related or having nigger ethnicity?
ther eis literately nothing wrong with it, afaik only americans can be this fucking racist
>nigger faggot
I'm actually french+german, but thanks
5a10b9 No.13596723
>>13595348
I've said it before and will say it again,
< Total War Colonization(?)
not specifically mesoamerica but the whole region during the early colonization period
this way you could get some native american action, age of sailing ships, heavy cannons, very early gunpowder warfare
and the map could spam all the way from north to south america
5a10b9 No.13596739
>>13595689
just fucking play the game, shogun2 is a good one to start though
empire is the first one of the new engine so its the more clunky one, with each new title it got more and more polished
741c1a No.13596743
>>13596656
Why should we have to rewrite history books and lie about our ancestors and culture, just to satisfy your need for political correctness and white guilt?
>>13596723
How would you balance Mahuacatls and padded clothing against steel armor, swords, guns and cannons, let alone all the diseases that devastated the vast majority of the natives? Seems to me like it would be heavily in favour of the europeans no matter how you try to balance it…
dd641e No.13596752
>>13596743
simple, make it so that colonials have to wait for reinforcements from across the sea until they have established a proper colony. Also make the natives really good at ambushing.
fc56f2 No.13596802
>>13596743
>balance
Make natives have combat bonus in the jungle+ easier for them to ambush and higher number of men per unit (native clubmen 250 men as opposed to spanish Rodeleros who have like 160 or 120 men)
The factions that try to colonize either have to wait for reinforcements with a Rome 1 Senate system where you need to do missions to keep the Crown happy or else they cut support which leads to PO malus, diminished morale for the troops and less income or have an EB style building and recruitment system that needs big monetary investments to get unit production started and have some sort of special fog of war for them
5a10b9 No.13596850
>>13596743
>Why should we have to rewrite history books and lie about our ancestors and culture,
that's the point, Spaniards are a culture of very mixed ethinicity, they're more commonly brown than white, just fucking embrace it, it what makes them unique
>How would you balance Mahuacatls and padded clothing against steel armor, swords, guns and cannons, let alone all the diseases that devastated the vast majority of the natives?
I've guess that's the point, like fall of the samurai, the natives would need to have a vast advantage in numbers
and besides that, the heavily armored and trained european units would be elite and very high upkeep, the challenge would from they arriving with literally nothing and conquering the caribbean (and also fighting other europeans)
I've guess it could play very similarly as Civ:Col
you arrive at the new world with nearly nothing, settle, have to rely on trade and resources from the old world, juggle with the other colonies, natives and piracy, until you are strong enough to declare independence and survive
741c1a No.13597103
>>13596850
> they're more commonly brown than white, just fucking embrace it
How many spaniards do you actually know?
Have you ever been there?
Spain is only brown when compared to nothern europeans. Compared to even latin americans, they are all incredibly white.
And those moors you claimed made them brown? Those guys where more of arabic than anything remotely subsaharan. Just look at contemporary depictions of moors, pics related.
Not exactly something anyone would mistake for nignogs.
5e826b No.13597137
>>13597103
anon, they're bait WE WUZ KANGZ/SPANISH AND SHEET. though greatest mistake is their Colonies
If Only Spain Genocided us.- flip
09b9b9 No.13597358
>>13597103
anon… for fuck sake..
you were the one who got triggered by >>13584895 because some factions where depicted as slightly brown
as if you were afraid of getting a little tan
this is mental retardation, there is a difference between skin color, ethnicity and culture
just because someone is slightly tan doesn't mean they're implied niggers…
not that it matters anyone, wether you're a nigger a white you're dweeb worhtless shit like anyone else
3cb083 No.13597445
>>13597358
I think you are mixing up ID's faggot, I never even commented on >>13584895
And considering just how emotional you seem, I would even think that the only one of us who is triggered here, is you.
Why don't you just go back to >>>/leftypol/ and leave the adults here to our debate?
26199f No.13597962
Just a friendly reminder that in Rome 1 you can give retinues from one general to another. I guess you can do the same in Medieval 2 as well.
6f24b4 No.13597990
So I never played a Total War game before. I have Rome sitting on my drive but I never booted it up. As a person with decent experience in conventional RTS what an I in for?
d3b40c No.13598406
>>13597962
Can confirm. You can only do it with some retinues however.
>>13597990
Rome is pretty great, but it's pretty far removed from a conventional RTS. There's no base building for one. If you like empire building then you'll like it. Don't expect Civilization though, the focus is on the combat (it's in the name after all)
85ad46 No.13598684
>>13596850
>they're more commonly brown than white
Incorrect unless you have a very loose definition of "Brown"
t.somebody who has been to Madrid twice
73beea No.13599924
>>13596743
>How would you balance Mahuacatls and padded clothing against steel armor, swords, guns and cannons, let alone all the diseases that devastated the vast majority of the natives?
The same way it was balanced in real life: Logistics, infrastructure, and numbers, as >>13596752, >>13596802 and >>13596850 say
The idea that the Spanish just came in and curbstomped everything due to superior technology is a myth: Obviously this was a factor, but it was vastly outweighed by the fact that the spainish were low in numbers, did not have the benefits of knowing the terrain or resources around them, and did not have dedicated supply lines or the logistics/infanstructure a traditional army would have, especially since Mesoamerican armies actually typically fought in numbers larger then armies in europe: armies in the hundreds of thousands wasn't uncommon, and contrary to the preception that they were just savages in the jungle, many groops had dedicated organized armies with command structure and the sort of supply lines and logistics you'd see in europe. (Also, most of the spainish switched over to native fiber armor due to the climate and it's suprising effectiveness anyways, and there are a few spainish accounts of Aztec spears, atlatl darts, or other stone and perhaps copper weapons doing damage to steel armor)
What allowed the Spanish to be successful despite this is the native geopolitical situation being unstable, to where many native groups allied with the spanish to overthrow the aztecs (the spainish were actually entirely defeated and surrounded by th Tlaxcalans fairly early on, and were only not finished there due to their choice to spare and ally with them) and therefore giving the spanish access to actual infanstructure and supply lines as well as a much larger amount of infantry, as well as causing aztec city states to erupt into civil wars, and as you say, diseases.
So, basically, give native groups larger numbers and more actuall support, territory, and cities/supplies, and make the colionizers have to make due without that, but with stronger actual units/soldiers and needing to actually use diplomacy to get the natives to fight each other and ally with yourself. Diplomacy has always been a waste of time in total war, this would give it a reason to be used
0e543e No.13601439
>download Shogun 2 mod called Morning Sun
>it adds China and Korea
>it actually seems to work
>crashes on turn 10
Guess it's back to Medieval 2.
aad1ee No.13601649
>>13597990
TW is basically General and Commander simulator from the strategic, and tactical point of view. Everything else plays a very minimal part, diplomacy is just a suggestion, since you can break any treaty immediately after, Towns and cities are already there for you, and can't ever get completely erased, and the tech trees and base building is incredibly minimal.
Expect to learn about things like hammer and anvil strikes, pincer maneuvers, and feint retreats. Once you get online expect to learn about noob boxes, kiting, and elephant, spartan and cataphract spams.
de2fca No.13602340
>>13594561
And there is nothing wrong with racism you nigger cunt.
954dbe No.13603390
>>13595726
Nothing, I uninstalled WaWa2 after just playing a couple of battles because it's WaWa again with less content and runs worse. It's just the same game, I didn't even notice any interface or controls improvements like the curved paths orders.
5ce64f No.13603422
>>13603152
>>13603160
Butterlord is looking good
2f3d8a No.13603431
>>13599924
>Mesoamerican armies actually typically fought in numbers larger then armies in europe: armies in the hundreds of thousands wasn't uncommon,
i hope you copypasta't that from some shitty internet forum posts and you're not really retarded enough to believe this crap.
09b9b9 No.13603535
I may be spend too much time on these replays
09b9b9 No.13603564
>>13603535
motherfucker, firefox is sperging out because of the concat
d74c8d No.13603598
>>13589402
They might. The combined map is a DLC for WH2, it's not WH3.
>>13584267
>pepe race
>fur jews
You have been misled, anon.
d98676 No.13603904
>>13603841
Time to wait for a direct dl link
>THIS RELEASE IS NOT SAVEGAME COMPATIBLE
Fuck
08433d No.13603909
>>13603904
Whats wrong with torrents? And EB has never been save game compatible with an update.
d98676 No.13603949
>>13603909
>Whats wrong with torrents?
Nothing
Its just that the dl-speed is going to be shitty since its newly released and everybody is downloading it
08433d No.13603988
>>13603949
But 600kb/s is fast for me
d98676 No.13604022
>>13603988
>>13603988
I feel ya
Getting ~600kb/s too
East German countryside internet sucks
7df722 No.13604031
>>13604022
South-west German countryside here, it's not much better. 750 kb/s.
08433d No.13604040
>>13604022
>>13604031
Which one of you is using utorrent?
08433d No.13604060
>>13604047
Hello fellow fredditor xD
35b58b No.13604075
>>13604047
get new reaction images you use the same 3 all the time
ccdaa8 No.13604110
>>13604060
>>13604075
Damn, the flood is even worse than I though
09b9b9 No.13604130
>people playing medieval 2 are deutschlanders
I'm not surprised
09b9b9 No.13604518
I'm basically a ffmpeg wizard now
d98676 No.13604668
Interesting trait the Lusitani get
d98676 No.13604900
>>13604861
They need to double check some of their stuff
09b9b9 No.13605341
>>13604668
what seem to be the problem mate, don't you enjoy a good sauna?
but wasn't basically a roman thing?
86fb91 No.13606066
>>13604307
what did youtube mean by this?
cd3c28 No.13606136
>>13584889
>fantasy
>>13584952
>fantasy
>>13584960
>fantasy
>>13585139
>Fantasy
>>13589348
>Fantasy
>>13589665
>Fantasy
Age of Sigmar™, there is no "Warhammer Fantasy"
3cb083 No.13606234
>>13606136
No, its the old 8th ed Warhammer Fantasy the Total War version is based on. None of that End Times or Sigmarine bullshit here.
0f7f37 No.13606521
>>13606136
>implying anyone with a brain actually gives a fuck about Age of Shitmar
If the god damned ground marines don't show how GW doesn't have any good ideas left then I don't know what will.
09b9b9 No.13607159
>>13606136
every warhammer is fantasy
tw warhammer is fantasy tw…
506f91 No.13607182
>>13606066
So, could people report videos that use "straight, white male" as literal hate speech?
caba7d No.13607646
>>13605341
>don't you enjoy a good sauna?
No
I´m really weak against heat
Any temperature over 20°C makes me sweat alot
>but wasn't basically a roman thing?
IIRC Saunas were a finnish thing
462fe6 No.13608561
Playing stainless steel but I'm retarded what faction should i choose?
78becb No.13608601
>>13608561
play as England since they're the easiest faction to start with
ec5323 No.13609123
I horded as the Boii and migrated to rejoin my cousins in Galatia, now one of my FMs works as a mercenary for the house of Ptolemy.
Also I really appreciate the new raiding feature.
bfee47 No.13609162
Does EB actually change the game balance of units/mechanics so its more fun to play or is it just another one of those mods that just bloats the game with a gajillion different versions of hoplites/barbarians that are effectively the same and factions up the ass so that when ending your turn it takes several minutes to resume?
09b9b9 No.13609269
>>13607646
>IIRC Saunas were a finnish thing
nah… these were the famous roman baths, warmed up by coal
I think finnish did the natural warm waters by outside thing
ec5323 No.13609445
>>13609123
I think I would have preferred him to have died while serving as a mercenary so I don't have to pay the upkeep on his bodyguard tbh
caba7d No.13609506
>>13609123
>Also I really appreciate the new raiding feature.
How does it work in comparison to the old one?
3cb083 No.13609614
>>13609445
Isn't this the kind of shit you have one of your assassins quietly take care of?
09b9b9 No.13610846
>>13609506
so… give us the quick run down on why the fuck play this mod
does it really add that much to the game, or is it just what you can play on your potato machine?
>>13609506
caba7d No.13611028
>>13610846
Do you seriously not know about the autisimo ultra deluxe mod that is Europa Barbarorum?
Yes it adds a fuckton of stuff including, but not limited to traits, units, building system(s), an entire AOR system and you get an entire wall of text what happened during that year
and no I dont play it because I got a toaster
a8ccf5 No.13611107
>>13611028
EB is fucking ridiculous after like 2 turns in you are fighting STACK AFTER STACK AFTER STACK. Eternal wars of attrition for small territory. I liked just modding rome with just AI mods and Terrae Expugnae for the expanded map and more factions(also you get the correct egyptian army)
For another mod that's pretty good was "Le Montee D'Lempire" for Napoleon total war. It really changes the game and fixes alot of the problems with the combat in that game.
caba7d No.13611208
>>13611107
>after like 2 turns in you are fighting STACK AFTER STACK AFTER STACK.
Yeah thats kinda a problem especially as a barbarian faction when you lose like 5k gold per turn, but same thing could be said for Roma Surrectum II where you can recruit entire stacks in just 2 turns even in the early game
The only other historical mod I really liked for Rome 1 was Rome Total Realism since its EB lite and IIRC is based on the Extended Cultures mod
>La montée de l'Empire
Never played much of Napoleon TW but I remember that mod being pretty good
Speaking of Nappy: Is that Great War mod still being worked on or has it met its death?
73beea No.13612541
>>13603431
It's true, though. Go look up the numbers of the combatants during the final siege of Tenochtitlan, for instance: The combined Tontac and Tlaxcala army that helped the Spanish had 100,000-200,000 soldiers, and the defending Aztec force was 200,000 - 300,000 men strong. The Aztec army that conquered Coixtlahuacan had 200,000 troops, and the army that conquered Tutupec had 400,000. There's also another that I forgot the exact campaign for that there was said to be an army of 700,000 people, but that and perhaps the Tutpec number are obviously exgaggerrated, but given that even for the battles we have numbers from for the Spanish are 100,000-300,000, clearly that as much really did happen.
It seems excessive, but it becomes less so when you consider that one of the forms of tribute Aztec controlled city states owed the empire was manpower during campaigns and all men had mandatory military service, so the "load" on any given city from it's inhabitants being used in war was diffused throughout multiple cities, and said cities were about as populated as european ones.
Also dumping more stuff from >>13595462 while i'm at it
73beea No.13612550
>>13612541
>The Aztec army that conquered Coixtlahuacan had 200,000 troops,
Should be noted this is 200,000 combatants and another 100,000 supplymen/porters, which, again, seems excessive but makes sense in light of how Tributaries were expected to contribute in times of war and given that there were no beasts of burden to help transport supplies.
d89344 No.13612589
And here I was just having a laugh with my friends of how Total War is reddit garbage.
73beea No.13612592
>>13612541
Also, in scan12.jpg is says that the Tlaxcalans joined cortes after Cortes defeated them, but as far as I know it was the opposite: The Tlaxcalans had surronded and defeated the spanish, but two of the Tlatoani (basically kings) of Tlaxcallan city states got the Tlaxcalla general to spare them.
48a12d No.13612602
Here's the map and legendary lords for mortal empires. It comes out on the 26th and will hopefully be cracked soon after.
48e4b1 No.13612623
>>13612602
How is it gonna get cracked though if you need both games to get the update? The first game is still missing the Norsca update, which would have to be cracked again by CPY, STP, or Codex, and I'm pretty sure none of them are working on it.
>that map
Looks small as hell to be honest, the old world map is so fucking boring and bland, they should have just combined both maps without cutting it off, but muh technical reasons.
d89344 No.13612625
>>13612602
Why does anybody believe that Mortal Empires can fix a game that has no strategy, diplomacy or a functional AI to begin with?
26199f No.13612673
>>13611208
Does EB 2 have 0-turn recruitment?
ec5323 No.13614378
>>13612673
Its running on Med2, so it has the recruitment slot system instead of Rome's 1 turn system. During the seasons of summer, spring and autumn you'll only have 1 or 2 recruitment slots open that you can use. But during the winter, these can double or triple in size as historically the production and storage of arms in times of war took place in the winter. Also the number of recruitment slots you have (and what units you can even recruit) can depend on the government type of a settlement.
Using the Roman Republics government system as an example, after conquering a region outside of Italy the player has to set up the Pacificatio Regionis. This government type essentially represents a rudimentary form of military occupation. It offers no recruitment options, very few building options and only provides a small bonus to law. From there the player can either choose to set up a Civitas Libera (Free City) or Provincia Romana (Roman Province). The Civitas Libera enables the recruitment of a special character known as a client ruler. Essentially he acts like an FM, but is not apart of the family and his name is drawn from the local population rather than a Roman name. This type of government enables local recruitment with a very slow refresh rate on units, and has 3 free upkeep unit slots. The autonomy held by those in the region gives them a 10% bonus to happiness, but a result of this means that Western Mediterranean Polities (the culture group the Romans belong to) isn't going to grow as a majority. Also since the settlement is essentially a tributary state to the wider Roman Republic, they would have to pay a grain tribute every year or so. So the farming output of the settlement is lowered, meaning less growth in the city. Should the client ruler die, the player has to 'demolish' the Civitas Libera government and rebuild it again to be given another client ruler. During this time, unrest can become a serious issue, so the death of a client ruler means a period of instability and uncertainty for the population and so the player may want to garrison the city with faction troops so as to avoid any revolts. The Provincia Romana is a type of government which is meant to represent Roman authority over the province. But before the Marian reforms, it doesn't offer any recruitment options and has to be garrisoned with troops from Italy. After the Marian reforms, auxiliary recruitment opens up for that province. As well as that, it makes the option for building colonies available. Colonies represent the active measures the Roman Republic took to settle provinces outside of Italy with Romans, through land grants given from military pensions and government sponsored "migrations". They help in converting a provinces culture to Western Mediterranean Polities up to a certain point and can either provide a bonus or a penalty to public order depending on the culture present. As a result this opens up a few limited recruitment options for the Cohors Reformata and the Antesignani. Also keep in mind that colonies can be built in Italy before the Marian reforms.
97e04b No.13615925
>>13594561
What the fuck has happened to this place? I want to puke. Never come back retard.
3cb083 No.13616489
>>13612602
So many missed opportunities.
>No gelt or volkmar in other empire states
>No Todbringer in middenland start
>No Kemmler in mousilon or Red Duke
This starting position could have been interesting.
>Azhag starts in Black Gorge and not somewhere more interesting
>No Ungrim Ironfist in Karak Kadrin
Could have been a nice change of pace for a dwarf faction to start primarily fighting undead and dealing with the empire instead of greenskins
>No Grombrindal in Karak Zorn or Kraka Drak
Either could have been interesting changes and a Kraka Drak campaign could have been a fun challenge for gluttons for punishment.
>None of big chaos invasions start in Naggaroth.
Couldn't they easily have made a start for Sarthorael over there with the goal of marching south and sticking it to the lizards or invading Ulthuan?
Other things I would have liked to see would be playable Vampire Coast undead, a beastman horde in Nagaroth and playable orc factions in either lustria, southlands or grom the paunch in Ulthuan.
I guess they didn't really mean it when they said they where going to move around some of the old lords…
09b9b9 No.13616595
>>13612589
>laugh with my friends
here is your (you), and don't be silly pretending you have friends…
48a12d No.13617558
>>13616489
The are planning on changing many Old World LL starting positions later.
ec5323 No.13617872
you have 10 seconds to tell me why you aren't playing EB2
86fb91 No.13617874
>>13617872
because eb1 is better and finished
63c0fd No.13617959
>>13617872
because I´m taking a break after the shitshow that was my England conquest and the slog that was my Gaul conquest
a4759e No.13618020
>>13617872
Is it still an unstable mess? Every save I've played always gets to the point where it crashes on a certain turn.
a0f8bb No.13618078
>>13617872
Because Rome 1 feels a lot better than Med 2. I don't know why, something puts me off about Med 2, it's a great game, no doubt, but I don't like it so much.
09b9b9 No.13618381
>>13617872
those are very well done shields
I'm not playing however, because even a single of those shields would max out the game resolution
2583f8 No.13618437
How long do your battles usually take? I find mine drag around 10 minutes each.
f2b01a No.13618990
>>13617872
It's not finished. I'm going to wait for it to be 100% finished, instead of 75% that it is currently.
f00325 No.13627270
>>13617959
why would you blitz everybody before turn 150?
f4f29d No.13629801
>>13627270
Britannia was undefended and has a region which makes like 5k gold from mines alone
As for Gaul: I saw how both factions there were spread thin from conquering new regions and decided that now was the best time to conquer them
Now I´m just taking some rebel regions and probably attack Massilia and them turtle the fuck up will Rome is busy fighting Epirus
09b9b9 No.13634398
> take these walls men
> then takes their lives
> then take whatever you will
> their wives, their slaves,
> THEIR BOOTY
09b9b9 No.13634451
man, I do fucking love watching some o these replays, they so fucking cinematic
if you take out the music and the sports narrator, do some proper editing they could be pretty damn good
09b9b9 No.13634975
I just noticed that most of the TW eventually come to be released for linux too (all but the newer wawa)
it even makes me want to buy, but holy fuck nearly 200 buckaroos for a game with whole dlc package
can anyone attest if they work on linux, with which drivers?
6454a7 No.13639776
>>13616489
It shouldn't be hard to mod the starting placement. Not splitting up the old factions was a bit lazy though, yes.
a4759e No.13640160
>>13617872
>download
>uninstall 2.2b
>install 2.3
>crashes at turn 20
That's why. How do you fucks manage to play this for any amount of time? My saves are always getting memed on with guaranteed turn end crashing.
28b155 No.13641452
>Can't right click enemy units
WOW
788237 No.13641545
3cb083 No.13644890
>>13643484
You need to micro the fuck out of your cav, bring a ton of it and make sure you cycle charge like a motherfucker.
Heavy cav is not for fighting in the meat grinder, its for shocking your enemy into panic. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking your cav should stick around after a charge and always get them clear if the enemy tries to surround them.
6170bc No.13645174
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Some Mortal Empires campaign footage.
f00325 No.13645356
>>13640160
why don't you post the problem lad instead of complaining about it?
does it crash after you do something specific, like constructing a certain building or recruiting a unit? or is a crash that repeats even after loading continuously on turn 20? what faction are you playing? are you alt tabbing?
check the logs folder in mods/EBII, and just check everywhere you can think of where you might be able to find a crash log
a4759e No.13645718
>>13645356
With 2.2b it was usually an issue with whatever was happening at that turn, as in I could reload a save (the saves that didn't crash when I attempted to load them) cancel all constructions, recruitment, and movement and it would still crash at whatever turn that save decided it didn't like. Furthest I got was turn 140, average was ~30.
I've made a fresh install of MTW2, patched it to 1.5, redownloaded EB on the off chance there was an issue with the download, and slapped EBII 2.3 on, but haven't gotten a chance to play it yet. Hopefully one of these will fix my issues.
>check the logs folder in mods/EBII, and just check everywhere you can think of where you might be able to find a crash log
https://pastebin.com/3DiLicRx I figure there's an issue with portraits or ancillaries.
09b9b9 No.13648125
>>13643484
their pikeman seem to be good, let your infantry engage with the enemy and flank them with cavalry, if they manage to get a back charge its pretty much done
a4759e No.13648379
>>13645718
>finally get the time to play
<wrong disk inserted
>try the other disk
<wrong disk inserted
The 1.5 patch must've broke it. Maybe this install will work.
ef5763 No.13648468
>>13595348
You should try this game anon.
f00325 No.13649106
>>13648379
did you get it working? from what i understood from the crashlog it seems like all the items under the [data.missing] tag are all vanilla med2 items. the game is trying read from the vanilla game rather than the mod and can't find shit. eg, the mesoamerican portraits for witches, heretics, inquisitors, princesses etc. these aren't included in EB2. its also trying to load up the norman and saxon faction icons from the vanilla game campaign menu that acts as a little prologue. im pretty sure this is all standard stuff, since they're all [warning] tags as well and im sure it happens to everyone elses game versions but nothing is ever recorded in the crash logs since it doesn't crash.
it could be save file corruption as well. if you alt tab the game a lot it can cause save files to shit themselves. even just doing it once can fuck things up.
a4759e No.13649483
>>13649106
>from what i understood from the crashlog it seems like all the items under the [data.missing] tag are all vanilla med2 items.
Yeah, that's why my thought was to attempt the 1.5 patch.
I've got it playable now, so long as I ctrl+s before ending turns. Up to turn 50 and no unavoidable end of turn crashing.
6170bc No.13654793
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Dwarves are looking pretty fucked for the Mortal Empires patch.
ccdaa8 No.13654837
>>13654793
>Implying they weren't fucked before
They've been getting the short end of the stick forever now
bc7d15 No.13654861
>history based vydia
>put high fantasy cancer on it
ccdaa8 No.13655819
>>13654861
>There are still fags autistically bothered by this when an historical title is in the works and these two franchises suit themselves like a glove
09b9b9 No.13655940
>>13655819
which historical title is in the works? so far I've seen only hearsay
ccdaa8 No.13656019
78becb No.13656047
>>13656019
>Fall of the Samurai Like Historical Title
Basically it might be Russian-Japanese War or boxer revolution
ccdaa8 No.13656142
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13656047
"we have recently been looking at ways in which we might get back to historical content before we release the next major historical Total War"
78becb No.13656176
>>13656142
sorry anon, i thought it automatically refers to this article and its statement
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-total-war-saga-announce-blog
"If you liked Fall of the Samurai, and the kind of gameplay we delivered with it, then you’re going to enjoy what we’ve got planned for our first Saga title."
2cc593 No.13656180
>>13654861
>Fucking Warriors Orochi!
f5ddc1 No.13660476
>try to unite Yurop under the banner of the Holy Roman Empire so we can great a new European world of progress
>constantly on the verge of collapse with rebellions, slavic barbarians raiding and the eternal war against Byzantium
78becb No.13661419
>>13660476
remember anon, never give up Do it for Uncle Adolf
affd25 No.13661445
>>13661419
DO IT FOR HITLER
09b9b9 No.13662655
>>13660476
pretty much why every major empire attempt failed…
> rome, HRE, the reich and etc>>13660476
a7001d No.13669196
These fleets appear in the most random spots
09b9b9 No.13670422
>>13669196
>random
>at land
were you expecting them to build ships at sea?
ccdaa8 No.13670460
>>13660476
>Roman Empire
>410<
>Eastern Rome
>Empire
411636 No.13671269
>playing warhammer for the first time as empire
>archaeon event happens
>stacks coming from north that I can easily dispose of if I station a few armies there
>they just keep coming
how the fuck do I get them to fuck off forever
b826c2 No.13672097
>Mortal realms is out. Sweet
<You need to have BOTH games to download this.
I have both games, so no problem for me, yet I can find this shit very jewish. Goddammit, CA.
>>13671269
I think that you had to destroy all the stacks (Lords itselfs included) in a period of like 20 turns, for the Chaos Storm to end.
6170bc No.13672338
>>13671269
Need to kill all the legendary lords. Archaeon, Sarthurial, Sigvald, and Kholek.
9ae019 No.13672819
isn't this shit programmed on Warscape too?
ccdaa8 No.13672908
>>13672819
>Believes CA can't fix Warscape because it has hardcode
>The same devs that have the fucking engine source code
Keep spreading misinfo likely spiuted by a Redditor trying to gain karma son.
Next you'll tell me Master diffciulty in S.T.A.L.K.E.R makes you deal more damage to NPCs.
ccdaa8 No.13673077
>>13672996
>makes me wonder why they ever bothered making warscape.
Because the old one lwas old as fuck, ooks like shit and has shit basic animations?
Medieval 2 is a top tier game, but all I said still holds true, you know this as better than I do.
3cb083 No.13673151
>>13672996
Because they needed an engine that could handle tons of musket fire well for Empire and Napoleon, with less emphasis on brawls and melee, so it got flashy synchkill animations and shit too.
Then some exec got the bright idea to just repurpose the warscape engine when they made shogun, and people liked the flashy animations, atmosphere and style so much CA figured they'd be better off polishing off the warscape engine for every new game instead of making one that can handle melee as well as the engine they used in Rome 1 and Medieval 2.
Damned shame.
I still miss the big siege battles from Medieval 2. It was so much better when you could plan where to hit a city as an attacker, with diversionary assaults on one side of the city to draw the defenders there while sneaking in troops on the other side to open a gate, or laying ambushes and layering your defence to hold off several stacks of angry mongols trying to storm your city.
Don't even get me started on the kind of fighting you had to go through to dig a full stack of defenders out of a Citadel with 3 layers of walls and defences...
Just look up some of Pixelated Apollo's medieval 2 sieges if you don't get how great they where.
09b9b9 No.13673671
>>13672908
>makes you deal more damage to NPCs
wo nice throwback son!
>>13673151
>Then some exec got the bright idea to just repurpose the warscape engine when they made shogun
you don't really know much about game development, do you kiddo?
1da04b No.13675002
I KEEP GETTING CURB STOMPED IN MULTIPLAYER HOW DO I PLAY THESE SHITTY DWARVES
6a6717 No.13675978
>>13675002
Git gud, and dwarves suck
3cb083 No.13677010
>>13673671
I understand perfectly well that its cheaper to reuse warscape than make a new engine, but warscape is nearly 10 years old and was never ideal for what its been used for ever since Napoleon.
And not only is the engine dated, but it was never designed for mass melees, but for musket firefights, and the engine has shown it in every game since, with unit collision issues and units blobing up in melees ever since.
f2b01a No.13677241
>>13677010
No matter how bad or dysfunctional games CA makes, dumb fucks like people in this thread are still going to keep buying them.
09b9b9 No.13678449
>>13677010
anon let me explain you something… with each new game iteration they slowly improve the engine where its needed while reusing most of the source code
and basically every software out there does the same, simply because reinventing the wheel most of the time takes unnecessary effort (welcome to windows with decrypt code from the 90s)
and have you actually played the latest historical titles to complain out of your ass so much? the last one, Attila had rock solid mechanics and really fuckin balanced combat
seriously what are you expecting? even the latest major triple A rpgs like fallout or skyrim have serious clipping glitches, and that is only with a handful of entities in fight at the moment
if you're asking for realistic edge detect and animations for thousands of units running at the same time, your computer would melt to process that, vydia isn't real life….
40699a No.13678484
>>13678449
Yes , blah blah blah.
But they had an engine that did it a lot better in Medieval 2 more than 10 years ago.
5b37cb No.13678615
>>13678449
I almost believed you until you mentioned Bethesda games in a good light. Next time use waifu games and weabs will come out of the woodwork to defend you.
09b9b9 No.13679614
>>13678484
>engine that did it a lot better in Medieval 2
did they really, are you sure you're not just nostalgia fagging?
because I've played it and remember, the melee rumble being just people bumping into each other, and the siege battles literally being the queue simulator from hell (ladders, getting up and down walls)
>>13678615
>you mentioned Bethesda games in a good light
I literally said that those games and full of glitches, and that's a good light for ya
go back to your dank meme squad will ya
3cb083 No.13680100
>>13679614
Are you sure you have actually played TW's from before atilla or are you just retarded?
From your history in this thread its painfully obvious you don't know jack about Rome 1 or Medieval.
>hurr durr, Medieval sieges are just storming walls with ladders
Quot erat demonstratum
Not bothering with siege towers for storming defended walls. Not shelling the walls with artillery to open gaps you can assault and clearing infantry from the walls in advance, not tunneling under the walls to bring them down no matter what the defenders might do.
Nope, the ladders are surely the only way…
That you are using bethesda as a positive example of development only shows the true extend of your staggering level of utter stupidity.
Please do mankind a favour and kill yourself before you accidentally procreate.
6170bc No.13684433
So I've been playing a Steel Faith Mortal Empires campaign as the High Elves on Hard. Holy fucking shit, the Chaos invasions are ridiculous. When Archaeon finally arrived, there were at least 10 stacks of Chaos armies placed right on my doorstep to the north and south of Ulthuan.
09b9b9 No.13685007
>>13680100
>Nope, the ladders are surely the only way…
that's not what I've said jackass, your point on the engine is that i made melee combat ass, what I've said is that it was pretty much worse ass
>That you are using bethesda as a positive example of development only shows the true extend of your staggering level of utter stupidity
I didn't say that either, stop projecting your shit stupidity
3cb083 No.13687828
>>13685007
>it was pretty much worse ass
You said it was worse BECAUSE sieges where just waiting around for your troops to scale ladders.
An observation that betrays just how poorly you understand how sieges in Rome 1 or Medieval 2 worked.
Your observations of how melees worked in the old engine are similarly overly simplistic.
Its obvious you have never spent much getting to know either before writing them off, since you are most likely some little millenial twat who thinks Atilla is teh greaetast evar because its the first good one you played.
deb203 No.13687887
>>13585023
>>13586389
Yes they're are which is why I'm worried that nigger was baiting.
d87a84 No.13688021
>>13675002
How do you usually build my man?
deb203 No.13689731
Well I've been looking at the steam discussion board for the Mortal realms and it turns out that the Chaos invasion is utterly fucked.
The waves of Chaos ignore all other factions and track you specifically down meaning endless waves of 20 unit armies howling for your blood.
0f5c74 No.13689859
>>13586412
I don't even think Norscea had a tabletop army so CA literally built them from scratch off of lore and a few models I think.
78becb No.13689883
>>13689731
its true, playing as the High Elves when chaos invades around turn 155 all of them zerg rush towards me. Though if you want them to attack other factions make sure you have Vassals not military allies
deb203 No.13689950
>>13689883
They have a mod that outright removes chaos invasion, I would consider it better alternative because I imagine when you start to actually conquer the map others will wage war due to great power penalty.
78becb No.13689983
>>13689950
Great power is a massive bitch with mortal empires since your allies soon will kill you and the only ones loyal would be your vassals
3cb083 No.13690833
>>13689983
Diplomacy in Mortal Empires, like the Vortex Campaign has one important trick to it.
AI factions like you more, the more your agents fuck other other factions they don't like.
Simple to use in practice, as I try to get as many wizards stealing research from enemies that I can, and each time you do, all factions that dislike or is at war with your target, will like you more. In my last mazdamundi campaign I had a +870 standing with everyone but the darkelves and the skaven I had wiped out. That was from a group of skink priests who had been working for 50-60 turns constantly stealing research every turn.
So if you want to get on the good side of, say the dwarves, send a ton of agents after the orcs, if you want the empire to like you, sick the agents on the undead factions and so on.
78becb No.13690851
>>13690833
ok anon, i'll try that ana thanks
ac690e No.13691010
>>13584152
>Kingdoms on Ind
>Nippon
>Araby
5f9729 No.13698630
FYI to those of you playing Med 2 on a good PC, in the medieval2.preference.cfg you can set unit_detail to "highest" and it will remove the sprite draw distances all together.
Make sure to save and set to read only after though to make sure changes go through. Not sure if it works the same with RTW
9c1fab No.13699305
Currently playing Attila on very hard with the franks.
Have an easy time to be honest, thankfully, my germanic barbarian bros are not prone to treachery, even on Very Hard.
5398db No.13699534
>>13677010
>unit collision issues and units blobing up in melees
wow just like every fucking total war
f7cdec No.13700389
>>13684433
>Holy fucking shit, the Chaos invasions are ridiculous.
Like it should be, the end times happened for a reason m8.
9d3db7 No.13702579
>would probably play like fucking Empire if it came out
78becb No.13702741
>>13702579
Anon are you talking about the new Total War Game that CA claims it has same gameplay as Fall of the Samurai?
3cb083 No.13703467
>>13702741
The article only mentioned Fall of the Samurai as an example of the kind of scope they are going for. With it being about one specific war instead of an entire era. Like Napoleon compared to Empire.
The article also said the next historical game like that would be based on Rome 2, like Atilla was. Probably going to be about some roman civil war or other. They had so many so its impossible to narrow it down, but if I was to guess I'd think its was that kerfluffle about Mark Anthony and Octavian. But there's too many options to be sure.
78becb No.13703585
>>13703467
>Rome II with scope of Fall of the Samurai
Don't know if i should be afraid but remastered Alexander the Great?
since Attila = Rome: Barbarian Invasion
Alexander = Unrevealed total war game
df60da No.13706695
Since there's currently no crack for Mortal Empires, is there any way to make II playable; i.e. to avoid watching all of my cities destroyed by doom stacks?
Stationing armies anywhere doesn't seem to work because they just spawn further away.
78becb No.13708937
>>13706695
anon you can bait them into spawning into one area by leaving one settlement defenseless (No walls and tier 1-2 settlement) then move in 5 or more of your armies to easily kill the stacks
79b0c8 No.13709243
>>13590392
Attila has a climate change mechanic in it that made me uninstall it. I was enjoying the hell out of it until I learned about that. Who wants to build an empire, only for every single thing to turn to ice?
The Middle East was prosperous because of climate change, not covered in fucking ice!
78becb No.13711381
9c1fab No.13712035
>>13709243
I don't think the climate change goes to the Middle east, in fact, Middle east has the heatstroke mechanic.