181c12 No.13556197
Red Alert will be 21 years old this month
Red Alert 2 will be 17 years old this month
Red Alert 3 will be 9 years old this month
How does that make you feel anons?
81e1db No.13556221
Wait, RA3 is seriously almost 9 years old? My memory must be getting worse with age, I thought it wasn't as old as this.
181c12 No.13556238
>>13556221
Aye it is. Maybe you are just getting old anon?
aec92d No.13556255
>>13556221
Jesus thanks for pointing that out, now I feel old too. Also saw a friend play that recently, it's like they saw the ridiculous silly of Red Alert 2 and tried that, but married it to an utterly sub-par RTS, and one that doesn't even trust you to play by having another AI controlled player help you out. Also cluttered visuals and ridiculous units. Probably more I could rattle off if I saw more of it.
66beb2 No.13557823
35176e No.13557837
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Anyone else exciting for this> coming out never ever
9e3f23 No.13557898
>>13557837
I thought it got released ages ago? Or are they updating it? Wish we got that Cryengine C&C game an autist was developing, it looked good
87b1f5 No.13557917
>>13556197
>C&C 95 isn't drawn
>Original Red Alert isn't either
>MFW
We need a mod that merges The first two into one and then increases the number of players per map to 20 or 30. Or maybe a STALKER mod where you go around abandoned cities and tiberium fields fighting mutants and either GDI or Nod, depending on who you side with.
9e3f23 No.13557930
>>13557917
>STALKER mod where you go around abandoned cities and tiberium fields fighting mutants and either GDI or Nod, depending on who you side with.
That was going to be the C&C MMO
451160 No.13559599
>>13559484
>story telling will never be this good again
9e3f23 No.13559889
>>13559484
When we make /v/ whole again!
2f75c0 No.13559915
Angry because EA took 8 years to make RA3 and still managed to fuck it all up
9cb20f No.13560600
>>13556197
I've been playing Mental Omega campaign missions recently and I can't get over the fact that so few RTS games in the past 17 years were able to reach this level of quality. Off the top of my head the only post-RA2 RTS game that I felt was up to par was the first Company of Heroes.
49bfbe No.13560636
>>13560600
>MO campaing missions
You mean the trial-and-error bullshit or the actually fun and well-thought out ones with actual basebuilding? Cause i recall half the Allied campaing being
>Oh, you want to explore the map? Here, have wolfhounds/railgun/tesla/dogs instakilling tanya
or
>Oh you don't know how to abuse turret firing priority? Have fun trying to deal with them with this pair of SEALs
Or the fucking black forest escort mission, fuck that shiiiiittttt.
9cb20f No.13560661
>>13560636
I've been playing the Yuri missions, most of which are plagued by the same sort of bullshit you're talking about, but the basebuilding ones are pretty good. There are a few non-basebuilding missions that are well-designed but they're exceptions to the rule.
49bfbe No.13560731
>>13560661
Honestly i found the Russian campaing, barring Episode 2, to be in overal better than Epsilon or Allied. Mostly because of LatinConfed missions minus The Alamo, that is.
One thing that i find about MO that redeems all the shit mentioned previously would be the CoOp campaings, since most of them either give you actual bases or a big enough squad that you aren't in any actual danger of having them die instantly to some bullshit placed behind the FoW. They're actually quite fun to play and are expansive and packed with action all the way through.
68f933 No.13560830
>>13557823
>>13559484
I don't think any RTS would work for a game night. C&C Renegade, on the other hand…
Can you still run classic Renegade? Renegade X was neat but something about it felt "off" compared to the original. The hit detection was the worst I've seen in any online FPS.
49bfbe No.13560914
>>13560830
C&C Renegade supports for 32v32 players and more and is still quite active despite its age, with usual 20v20 skirmishes at highprime time saturday on Rencorner/Marathon. The only problems would be server hosting and distributing a pirate pack for the game.
cc4b82 No.13560928
Fuck, Red Alert 1 took my gaming virginity. I didn't know what I was doing half the time but I had a blast regardless. Back then, I haven't even understood English language so every game had that mysterious vibe to me.
323717 No.13561317
>>13560636
Twisted Insurrection suffers from the same issues. Seriously what is it with modders thinking that Commando missions are the best thing since sliced bread?
>>13560914
The Red Alert and Tiberian Sun mods for the game are standalone.
68f933 No.13561352
>>13560914
Awesome, I loved Renegade. I'll look into it this weekend, I might be able to host sometime.
c7107b No.13561658
8c4369 No.13562001
>>13560914
Renegade has not aged well.
68f933 No.13563570
>>13562001
You haven't aged well.
9cb20f No.13564024
>>13560731
I dropped the Soviet campaign at the Alamo mission because I got tired of having to micro Morales around a bunch of dogs I couldn't see, especially since his rifle takes like three minutes to reload
49bfbe No.13564240
>>13564024
It would honestly have been so much better if you had a small squadron of teslatroops or pyros flown in along Morales. He's the only Commando unit in the mod that's subceptible to human/dog wave tactics despite the faction that he comes from, he's basically balanced around that fact since he's primairly a long-range anti-tank/building unit, rather than a anti-infantry one. Which is okay, because Soviets never usually have that kind of firepower and even less l.confed which gets outranged and outgunned in every equal-resources tank engagement there can ever be in multiplayer, specially since Buratinos suck so much dick at their role when compared to the alternatives.
However, sending him on a ridge plagued with a thousand dogs with nothing to save from except his rifle? It is the epitome of idiocy and whoever designed the map should kill himself. It dissapointed me because it actually looked like an actual basebuilding map out of the box but theeeen you're stuck with microing Morales and checking every 5 minutes to see if your MCV hasn't been airstriked/warhawked to oblivion by units bypassing your defenses, it's just plain tedious and boring.
3b03e6 No.13566644
We need a Hentai mod for a C&C game.
5301b3 No.13567071
>>13566644
Then go and make it, Dubsman. Or pay the Japs to do it for you.
e60c86 No.13567354
>>13556197
I've been meaning to get into C&C for years now but never got around to it.
How should I start guys? Play them all from order of release or are there ones that should be skipped?
ae0719 No.13567404
>>13564240
>units bypassing your defenses
holy fucking shit this
You can't just put a group of units/defences to guard something in this game and go micromanage something else, they will get overrun in seconds by fucking infinite spam AI bullshit.
ddd164 No.13572336
>>13559484
IN THE NAME OF BANE!
4cbfb6 No.13572749
>>13567404
>>13564240
that's why you play online, playing rts offline is lame.
d6c9d5 No.13572881
Kane lives in death. C&C4 was a GDI smear campaign.
49bfbe No.13573154
>>13572336
The GDI hotheads sought to destroy me, but they have only made the fire stronger!
c5b7ae No.13573842
I wish I'd had the foresight to order some of this shit back when Westwood was alive.
ae0719 No.13573867
>>13572749
>just play multiplayer bro
>balanced singleplayer is for scrubs
c5b7ae No.13574023
>>13567354
Play them all except C&C4, you can get the first two for free (legally) with fanpatches installed on C&Cnet.
dc770c No.13574163
>>13573867
playing against ai sucks, what is the point of outplaying a computer in a strategy game?
49bfbe No.13575240
>>13574023
>two
The first three. C&C95, Red Alert and Tiberian Sun are all freeware. https://cncnet.org/
>>13567354
Since the series was bought by EA, consider pirating the rest, you won't be paying the actual devs if you buy the last decade collection, C&C3 or Generals on Origin. You're better off buying a game from Petroglyph like Grey Goo or sending a mail letter to Frank K. instead if you're into that sort of thing.
As a sidenote, some people say RA3 is a black sheep in the Red Alert family of games, the same way C&C4 is for the tiberium series. Mostly because of its art style, the micromanagement hell with all the deployable units, the terrible forced-coop campaing and the lore rape implied with soviets somehow adquiring a chronosphere and killing eistein despite losing two world wars, yet allies still having it as a super weapon.
Even so, it's still a fun game and although not as good as RA2, it's not bad to try it out after you're done with the rest of the games.
622a08 No.13575299
>red alert 3 is nearly a decade old
c5b7ae No.13576286
>>13575240
Oh, wasn't aware it was all three. That's nice.
9e3f23 No.13577616
C&C Shitposting Tournament when?
530f6c No.13577896
>>13557837
Speaking of this, how long til fans revive the series? Fangames are the hot new thing now, so where's my dedicated C&C fans to make a badass new title to rival the best of the official titles?
Really dropping the ball here, C&C fans.
49bfbe No.13578246
>>13577896
There are mods that are pretty damn good at expanding the series such as Twisted Insurrection, but i believe they can't make an actual new C&C game because of EA's grip on copyrights. Maybe if an entirely new setting is formulated with very similar mechanics, but then you lose the charm of having GDI and Nod beat the shit out of eachother for world domination.
Also i believe Petroglyph already attempted this with the 8-bit armies series, but there's almost no story to it, the artstyle is indieshit and it kinda had a multiplayer focus too.
bfc55e No.13578270
>>13577616
When we all agree that GDI did nothing wrong.
c52298 No.13578940
So where are all the CnC mods being stashed anyways? There is a bunch of overhauls I always wanted to try out.
fe814a No.13578958
>normalfag entertainment inc
bfc55e No.13579185
>>13578958
You need to leave. Clearly you have no appeciation for RTS.
49bfbe No.13579696
>>13578270
GDI did everything wrong though.
From being unable to supress media when they know that Nod controls it, to having a terrible infantry and artillery doctrines that extends to abusing tanks and aircraft, to being the sole reason on why Nod even has nuke capabilities and being left behind with a super weapon that takes too long to recharge to be of any use except singular targets and so on. They couldn't even protect Germany from Nod encirclement until the Commander decides to stomp around and wreck shit in there.
>>13577616
Does anyone even play online anymore?
I know there's a lobby in cncnet for C&C95 but last time i saw it was either only modded survival maps with a thousand waves of mammoths or russians kicking everyone who wasn't part of their group.
I don't even want to suggest TS because of mammothMk2/disruptor carryall and bomberspam bullshit and Nod being so terrible at anything that isn't buggie+artispam, unless there's a certain mod to use here?
OpenRA is obviously out of the question because of their retarded engineer nerfs and soviet yakspam meta.
5cfcbf No.13579725
>>13559889
>anon lives!
wew
b518e6 No.13579745
569533 No.13580233
>>13579745
fuck off castle rusher
46519b No.13580323
>>13578270
GDI is a fucking joke though, their only real accomplishment is not getting completely curb-stomped by Nod.
4199eb No.13583545
Nod are Serbs
GDI are Kebab
Go figure.
ecf00f No.13583572
>>13583545
It's the other way around though. And you forgot about Forgotten, who are Albanians.
4199eb No.13583578
>>13583572
>Slavik
>Not a Serb
Wew.
9e3f23 No.13583781
>>13583572
Forgotten are cleary gypsies
4b6fef No.13583919
>Red Alert 2 will be 17 years old this month
9e3f23 No.13583923
Found full version of OP's image. What amazes me is this goes from having decent taste to shit taste rather quickly.
57af81 No.13583982
>Command & Conquer (1995)
Gulf/Vietnam war atmosphere with media propaganda.
Industrial techno/electric funky music. The game just oozes 90's.
GDI campaign has you liberating Europe, with the final battle in Sarajevo and the destruction of the Temple of Nod, killing Kane.
Nod campaign has you taking over Africa. The campaign ends with hijacking the GDI Ion cannon and using it against one of four western landmarks (Eiffel Tower, the White House, Brandenburg Gate, or Houses of Parliament) to be vapourized by the Ion Cannon strike, dealing a crippling blow to GDI's image and capability.
>Red Alert
Prequel of Tiberian Dawn (C&C95).
WW2 on steroids. Einstein creates a time machine to go back in time to kill Hitler, only to create a far worse situation as the Soviets grow unopposed and steamroll Europe. More great and orgasmic soundtrack, arguably the greatest music in the C&C franchise. Because of Einstein meddling with time, WW2 now has helicopters, GPS and all sorts of late and sci-fi technology.
Allies are Europeans - no Americans in the game.
Stalin dies no matter what campaign you play. He either gets found in the rubble by the end of the Allied campaign, or he gets poisoned and usurped by Kane at the end of the Soviet campaign.
This game is a huge "Fuck You" to both /pol/ and /leftypol/, love it.
I especially like the commando missions in the first 2 games, or just a handful of units (and no base) to make do. It's some covert operations shit.
>Tiberian Sun
Sequel to Tiberian Dawn, post-apocalyptic world. Tiberium encroached all over the world, dark, gritty, edgy and ambient music. Best live cutscenes in the franchise, with great acting and a deep plot that really sets GDI and Nod apart.
>Red Alert 2
The last good C&C game until EA killed off Westwood and tarnished the franchise by making mediocre (Generals) or steaming piles of garbage (RA3/TW/TT) games.
Sequel to Red Alert, set in an alternate timeline (Tiberian Dawn is the canon sequel to Red Alert).
West installs a Soviet puppet to keep them in check, puppet turns against them and invades America by complete surprise, from all sides. The intro is fucking amazing and it blew my mind as a kid.
Different from RA1 in that it's extremely cheesy and self-aware as opposed to gritty and dark, but it pulls it off well. If Advance Wars was an RTS. Many original and unique units, concepts and ideas. The music is generic and the cheesy acting is sometimes cringe, but the gameplay is fantastic.
This game is pure fun and entertainment, and a good ending to C&C.
4b6fef No.13583990
>>13583982
Pretty much this
But i would argue that Generals still is somewhat decent and kane wrath is not that bad
57af81 No.13584011
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>>13583982
[cont]
>Gameplay-wise:
RA2 > TS > RA > TD
>Music-wise:
RA > TD > TS > RA2
Frank Klepacki is a fucking god.
>Story-wise:
TS > TD > RA > RA2
>Graphics/Visual representation:
RA2 = TS > TD > RA
TD went for photorealism, liked that better than the goofy giant infantry look in RA1.
>>13583990
Generals is a good RTS game on its own, but it's not a C&C game.
Shares nothing with the RA or Tiberian universe and introduced completely different gameplay mechanics and elements.
It basically didn't need the C&C title slapped on it, EA just did it because muh brand.
Generals came out during the "War on Terror" Bush era and Iraq war, making use of current political events to sell the game. The stereotypes are over the top and funny though, gotta give it that.
4b6fef No.13584025
>>13584011
>>Gameplay-wise:
>RA2 > TS > RA > TD
Tbh i wish OpenRa devs would bring all the C&C games to the same level mechanically and modernize them, like add unit tabs, modernize UI etc…
But they are lazy niggers and its not gonna happen in this decade
57af81 No.13584039
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>>13584025
That wouldn't really work.
TD and RA1 run on the same old engine.
TS and RA2 run on the same engine.
Just play the games as intended, and stay away from OpenRA. It's garbage and fucks with unit prices.
Get the freeware games from cnc-comm.com / CnCnet, fully patched and fixed for modern systems.
Only RA2/Yuri's Revenge has to be torrented somewhere.
9e3f23 No.13584041
What the fuck is it with Japan and Kane using a toothbrush?
4b6fef No.13584149
How about we play some RA2 trough gameranger this weekend?
81e1db No.13584172
>>13584071
The Desolator is probably my favorite soviet unit in terms of lines. Though the aloha snackbar truck is also good.
4b6fef No.13584204
>>13584172
Mine is Tesla trooper
5e864e No.13584208
How would the C&Cfags (or RTSfags in general) feel about small and fun tournaments that are held every so often on weekends?
81e1db No.13584212
>>13584204
I guess if you like rubbing your shoes in lotion.
4b6fef No.13584215
>>13584208
Im up for it as long as it is pirate friendly
57af81 No.13584233
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>>13584172
The RA2 competitive meta was fun to watch.
>Soviet Iraq is the best faction (muh desolators)
>everyone sends out dogs early to scout
>ballsy players attempt sneaky engineer rushes
>economy is rolling, both players crank out a fuckton of tanks
>micro-managing tanks, using desolators to clean flesh
I liked playing as France because I'm a turtler (deal with it) and liked those huge ass tower turrets.
5e864e No.13584237
>>13584172
Agreed, Desolators are so fucking top tier. Especially if they come in blue
>>13584212
>rubbing shoes in lotion
Great, not im never going to unhear that and laugh everytime I use mike pence troopers
>>13584215
Of course it would be. If anyone has any ideas, suggestions or recommendations please post them over here >>>/radcorp/3121
7d57d3 No.13584338
>>13559484
>BROTHERHOOD!
>WE ARE WHOLE AGAIN!
<cuts to view of room with about 20 dudes in it who are medium impressed at best
>2D screen without cameras on it
>Kane "looks down" at the dude getting his throat cut with the plastic knife
embarrassing, tbh
49bfbe No.13585011
>>13584039
>RA2 and TS have the same engine
Last i saw, RA2's engine allowed for way more than what TS's could handle, including being able to spot units behind tall buildings, the interface bar, unit groups and the toggle-use Waypoint system, it din't require that you hold ctrl+alt to set factory dropoff points, etc.
>>13584233
From what i remember of the RA2 meta, it was all spam dogs because they could instakill every infantry unit, are super cheap, fast and can take some tank shots as well because they were technically infantry too, build aircraft as fast as possible as Allied and airstrike the enemy WF/oretruck while spamming tanks or as Soviet spam as many rhino tanks and flaktracks with engies/desolators/terrorists as you could. It was a shitshow because once you leveled a tank to Elite rank, it could instakill nearly every unit or defense it fired upon, barely anyone abused IFVengie rushes but they were still quite effective.
If you're worried about balance other than "dude just spam more tanks", check out Mental Omega. Game's balanced around actual mixted unit compositions and Allied airgame isn't as broken as it used to be.
>>13584149
>gameranger
Dude. No. https://cncnet.org/yuris-revenge
9cb20f No.13585212
>>13573842
That's a pretty fuckin nice collection. Seeing all the old boxes really makes me long for a time when videogames weren't shit
>>13578246
I was sort of annoyed that they chose to hop on the 8-bit bandwagon instead of just making a new campy IP
>>13578270
>literally supporting the globalists
>>13583982
>This game is a huge "Fuck You" to both /pol/ and /leftypol/
wow man are you one of those centrists you must be really smart and above it all
Also, although it's never explained in any detail, it's probable that a universe without Hitler would still see the rise of fascism, especially given a literal Communist threat to European stability. the only difference is that it would be closer to Francoism or perhaps something like Austria's Fatherland Front, rather than Hitlerian National Socialism
57af81 No.13585227
>>13585212
Conservatives are not on the center, so no. I'm not a centrist. I'm on the right. :^)
The real right-wing, not the /pol/ LARPing "alt-right" aka the extreme fringe.
0d4615 No.13585358
>flac versions of tiberian sun & red alert soundtracks exist
>both are missing songs & don't include expansion tracks
WHY WHY WHY HWY WHY WHY WHY WHYWHYHYWHYHWYHYWHY
4b6fef No.13586168
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Since this is RTS/C&C thread
New game from Petroglyph announced
e33422 No.13586194
4b6fef No.13586232
>>13586194
Just like last 2 games Petroglyph released, i have absolutly 0 hope for that game
eb0b55 No.13586306
>>13585212
>smart and above it all
Honestly yeah. Nothing is worth dying for in this world except maybe your kids if you have them. Not that you should, just die alone. Whats so hard about that?
I've never really wanted to belong to anything and can spot hypocrisy a thousand miles away so no dice Nazis.
ae3298 No.13586340
>>13586168
At first watching the trailer I thought that it was gonna be another try at that MMORTS they seem to dream about, but it looks like its still a regular RTS which is nice. Normally I'd be somewhat excited for unit customization but unfortunately every time I've seen that done there's always a best combination of unit designs that everyone uses which defeats the purpose.
87b1f5 No.13586363
>>13586340
Heh, they used the same suits as space suits in Firefly.
>>13584208
Sure
ae3298 No.13586401
>>13586363
Apparently everyone picked from the same warehouse of props back then.
9e3f23 No.13586413
>>13586401
There is actually some truth to that. Pretty much every action movie of the 80's and early 90's used guns from the same warehouse.
e60c86 No.13586915
>>13575240
>>13574023
Thanks anons, will download the first freeware lot tonight. Cheers!
b3acc3 No.13587780
>People told me to ignore RA3.
>Finally get around to playing it a few months back
>had a grin on my face the whole time I played it
Honestly I like all the stupid & campy shit in the single player, like the mission where you have to kill the the Japanese Emperor then he busts out in a mech suit. Not the best C&C game by a long shot but I had fun. The sound track wasn't too bad either.
>>13578246
Well Renegade X happened without a hitch & a bunch of stand-alone mods exist, EA seems to be pretty lax on fan games provided you aren't trying to make money off it.
>>13578940
Most can be found on ModDB.
65653b No.13587799
>>13586413
Oh, really? That's interesting.
db00e2 No.13587806
>>13586401
Just realised he has a pulse rifle from Aliens
49bfbe No.13587896
>>13587780
IIRC, the sole reason why the unreal tournament Renegade X mod was even allowed to be completed was because it was assisted by former devs from the EA team that were supposed to make an actual sequel to Renegade– IE the Tiberium FPS that was cancelled because of C&C4 flopping. Otherwise, they even said it would have been C&D' without having that kind of contact with EA.
That said, you're probably not wrong. It could be possible to make an entire C&C fangame with custom assets and an entire new story as long as it's freeware and hopefully open source, too. It's just a matter of having a dedicated team of autists go at it.
c5b7ae No.13589156
>>13585358
Check Klepaki's site.
>>13585212
>That's a pretty fuckin nice collection. Seeing all the old boxes really makes me long for a time when videogames weren't shit
Westwood used to have a catalog of collectible shit you could order from, there are copies floating around but I never bothered to save one.
5224e5 No.13589214
>>13586168
I want to like what they are doing, but everything they do seems so uninspired and lacks impact. Even red alert 3, the piece of shit that it is had some residual character left.
e2d724 No.13589229
>>13583923
Nothing is entirely wrong with the first row, second row gets questionable though.
>Fallout 3
Atleast she's a enclave fan.
>The Divsion
How?
a54812 No.13589727
Who all the shittalking aside, Generals is perhaps the best for multiplayer out of any C&C game.
4b6fef No.13589744
>>13589727
I think you spelled out Yuri Revenge wrong
a54812 No.13589765
>>13589744
>Yuri's Revenge
>Implying it doesn't boil down to a few meta tactics and autistic screeching beyond comprehension if you dare take the Yuri faction
It just isn't. Zero Hour offers much more variety and options without full on screeching.
569533 No.13589782
>>13589765
While generals is truly fun it tends to run like arse even on modern day rigs. Something about the game engine.
a54812 No.13589784
>>13589782
Well they did call it the Sage engine :^)
5cfcbf No.13589815
>>13556221
>RA3 is seriously almost 9 years old?
What?! I tried to forgot that wack game.
5d9a1d No.13589840
>>13583982
>This game is a huge "Fuck You" to both /pol/
>Hitler get's killed
>Everything gets much worse
What did he mean by this?
5d9a1d No.13589849
>>13585227
You'll be far right in 20 years, anon don't worry.
Unless you backpedal like most conservatives.
>Of course I oppose people marrying animals! This is nothing like the child marriage issue a decade ago. The conservatives who opposed that were narrow-minded bigots!
4b6fef No.13589855
>>13589765
>much more variety and options without full on screeching
>No Aurora, King Raptor and Nighthawk or kick
c7328a No.13589856
>>13583982
>This game is a huge "Fuck You" to both /pol/ and /leftypol/, love it.
I don't browse /leftypol/, do they unironically like Stalin and Lenin?
>West installs a Soviet puppet to keep them in check
>puppet turns against them and invades America by complete surprise, from all sides.
lel, imagine Trump being a Russian plant who turns against them and attacks Russia from all sides.
4b6fef No.13589861
>>13589840
>Everything gets much worse
>Futuristic tech, space exploration in '70, advanced prism, tesla and chrono technology
What did he mean by this?
569533 No.13589872
>>13589861
In C&C tech always grows retardedly fast. It's not 1:1 with reality.
49bfbe No.13589975
>>13589861
Russians actually get to nuke several European cities without any qualms. They also invade Greece, Germany, Austria and Findland, among other countries with little to zero resistance unopposed until the Allies get their shit together. This is on both campings.
The fight is also much worse than actual WW2. The advance in tech being so ridiculeous that they manage to produce, en mass, Tesla Coils which instantly fries tanks and their crews in a single ZAP, flamethrower/napalm is widespead in its use without any sanctions, russians still employing human wave tactics against entrenched Pillboxes or Artillery battalions except they do it on every single engagement, etc.
>>13589765
If you truly want balance just try out Mental Omega. Nearly every unit is useful to have and use in one way or another and Yuri is actually balanced against Allied and Soviet factions now, they also don't have ranged no-cost repeatable engineer Yuri that can capture buildings as a Commando anymore. Just consider banning foehnfags and their starcraft infantry spam fetishism.
4b6fef No.13589988
>>13589975
>Nearly every unit is useful
9e3f23 No.13590033
>>13589855
How can fags fail so hard against Chairforce General? He is literally one of the weakest Generals in the game who can be rushed so fucking hard and easily.
ed8dfc No.13590081
4b6fef No.13590089
>>13590081
GENTLEMAN ITS A NUCLEAR DEVICE
4b6fef No.13590106
>>13590089
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACT IF WE WANT TO LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD
65653b No.13590144
>>13590106
T-T-TIE-TIE-TIME IS RUNNING OUT
569533 No.13590297
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13590144
>>13590106
>>13590089
>>13590081
The new one ain't bad either. It just lacks vocals.
57af81 No.13590319
>>13589849
>let me tell you what your beliefs are
Ok kid.
57af81 No.13590324
c84800 No.13590379
>>13573842
There was a Red Alert collector's edition that I bought when I was a kid and had spare money from a Christmas.
It came in a silver-grey box with a way-oversized Large t-shirt for size 10 me, the music from Red Alert and maybe Counterstrike.
I remember getting confused as fuck when everyone started raving about Counterstrike about a year later.
But that's a real fucking neato collection.
9e3f23 No.13590402
>>13587799
Yup, wish I could remember the name of it though. Looking for it now all you get is links to gunlaws and imfdb. Probablly would be able to find it if you looked at the credits of each movie. Remember kids, this is why you should save and archive everything
49bfbe No.13591084
>>13589988
>he doesn't spam conscripts
They're $50 each and can still kill GIs and initiates easily. Plus, they're supposed to be used in tank/flaktrack formations where they soak up rounds like it's nothing.
>doesn't know that mortar quads outrange base defenses and deal huge damage to vehicles
Just pair three of them behind your Jaguars and you're golden in any tank engagement that doesn't have to deal with Chinese or Last Bastion bullshit.
>doesn't know that robot tanks are the only way for Allies to have a chance against Yuri in tank engagements when they're employing Adepts/Elites
I mean, asides from spamming dogs, which costs like 200 and die instantly to gatlings. Or suiciding airforce to a wall of gatlings. Fuck gatlings in general. They also outrange adepts and can soak up enough shots from AT infantry to do their standard role perfectly, and are a great bonus to have when you're Pacific Front in a naval map because you then have floating AI.
They're literally floating buggies with laser shotguns that can't be mindcontrolled, what else can you ask for?
>he doesn't know 4 bloaticks are enough to destroy a powerplant or a barracks
They also count as infantry tanks because if one of them dies, every other one heals from its acid cloud.
9e3f23 No.13591111
>>13587806
Other version of the pulse rifle is from Space:Above and Beyond
c5b7ae No.13596644
>>13590379
Do you still have it aon?
c41ce2 No.13596738
27c10d No.13597414
>>13589988
>not using Robot Tank on island maps
I am guessing you were dumb enough to constantly let the enemy destroy your power
7a7121 No.13608962
AK-LOLI-SEVENS FOR EVERYONE!
fe6ff0 No.13609670
Can we please take a moment to point out how fucking retarded GDI actually is, especially around the time of Tiberian Dawn and Tiberian Sun?
GDI
>Has backing of world super-powers in dawn
>Relies heavily on Tank spam tactics and airpower against a faction that has strong anti-armour defenses and anti-air
>Defenses consist of a Guard Tower with a machine gun and a Tower with missiles that are ineffective at close range
>Artillery is virtually non-existant taking the form of an MLRS system that takes a while to become available and infantry are somewhat of a joke
>Entire army moves at the pace of an iceberg
>Fastforward to Second Tiberium War
>Despite introducing some fixes to infantry it's business as usual, indicating they've learned absolutely nothing from last war
>Don't even have artillery till the Firestorm Crisis
>Their base defenses are component towers that you have to specialize
>Contain no heavy defenses at all
Meanwhile with Nod
>Have a well balanced and mixed rapid reaction force
>Have access to artillery early
>Have elite infantry units that can fuckup a base cheapily and quickly
>Utilize sneak attack units
>Defenses are highly effective
>Fast forward to Second Tiberium War
>Maintain their well balanced and mixed rapid reaction force
>Develop an effective Air Force
>Dial their sneak attack arsenal up to 11 with tunneling units
>Introduce heavily armoured cyborgs to their infantry forces that can heal in Tiberium while giving out a beating
>Base defense is effective against both infantry and vehicles
>Retain heavy defenses and introduce stealth generators for their base
>Developed weapons to take advantage of and weaponized the enivronment.
>Clearly have taken lessons in their wars with GDI
Seriously how are the GDI the winner of any war with Nod? GDI seem to win despite their incompetence?
4c1a10 No.13609700
>>13609670
GDI
>Cool color scheme
>Badass aircraft
NOD
>bunch of retards wanting to become tiberium mutants abominations
I think that the victor is clear here
afc1a4 No.13609707
Makes me feel like I should go look for my copy of Red Alert.
fe6ff0 No.13609717
>>13609700
>GDI: Badass Aircraft
Yeah they are pretty badass, especially when they are burning up
>Nod: Retards wanting to become tiberium mutants
I think you are confusing divination with becoming an abomination.
In any case, spotted the GDI agent.
4c1a10 No.13609772
>>13609717
>In any case, spotted the GDI agent.
>Not being an agent of global peace and prosperity fighting against world terrorism
NOD terrorist spotted
1c54aa No.13609784
>>13609772
>GDI, global diversity initiative
DOWN WITH GDI!
4c1a10 No.13609803
>>13609784
That was left-handed!
fe6ff0 No.13609817
>>13609772
>Implying we don't bring the technology of peace
GDI warmonger spotted
4c1a10 No.13609847
>>13609817
>technology of peace
Kane Akbar to that brother
fe6ff0 No.13609858
Reminder that only Nod cares about victims of GDI aggression!
010b46 No.13610121
Does GDI have cute lolis?
No?
Well, that's too bad.
fe6ff0 No.13610149
>>13610121
Nod will make anime real.
a424bf No.13610215
>>13609717
butt window NOD girl!
fe6ff0 No.13610243
>>13610215
Wondering how long till someone remembered her.
ab9f77 No.13610715
>>13610215
>>13609717
Why the Dead Space Armor?
2fffcc No.13610783
GDI is my favorite because I like my mechs to be bulky and destructive, but NOD is the cooler choice the same way that Nazis are. Unrivaled style and good taste in uniforms.
4c1a10 No.13610815
>>13610715
Because artist is a huge pleb and he decided to draw a generic heavy sci-fi armor instead of putting a little effort
12ae61 No.13610819
>>13556221
That's because RA3 has that garbage "New Shit" vibe to it. However many years go by, you still think of it as a crappy new cash-in on an old classic.
fe6ff0 No.13613518
>>13610783
Should have seen the planned C&C MMO designs
c894d7 No.13614522
>>13559484
PEACE THROUGH POWER
39fcd0 No.13616835
>>13614899
>New York is nuked
The world would be so much better.
14737b No.13617128
>>13556197
>Tiberilim Sun
Tiberian
1eba05 No.13617313
fe6ff0 No.13630079
So anons, C&C 3 Westwood edition would have had GDI, Nod, Cabal, Forgotten and Scrin as playable factions. How does that make you feel?
4c1a10 No.13630351
>>13630079
Indifferent, playable fractions are one, having interesting story and campaign i another.
i think its good that cabal didnt get included, it had it time, forgoten might have been interesting especially as a 3rd (4th) force in campaign
Generally i would prefer more units, maybe generals system like for generals zh and better story, also not scraping TS units
07da05 No.13630546
>>13574163
Gotta get your feet wet, if you can't beat the AI then you're not going to stand a chance against players.
4c1a10 No.13630639
>>13574163
Autism
i loved building pretty bases and huge armies in RA2 in skirmish as a kid
010b46 No.13630910
>>13630079
If Tiberian Sun had enough development time, it would have had GDI, Nod, Forgotten and in the expansion Cabal as fully fledged factions each with unique units and strategies, plus a campaing that isn't half-assed to shit. Meanwhile C&C 3 would have been the end of the series instead of [REDACTED].
I'm just dissapointed in the turn of events leading to this. Such wasted potential.
ede328 No.13640010
>>13574163
AI is hard to balance. Easiest and dirtiest way is to simply give it infinite resources and shit. They may perform "intended gameplay" with perfect precision but there are often loopholes in AI programming that can be abused or some other cheese tactics like (WC3 example saw it in my recommended once) immediately sending worker to build towers near AI base which AI has hard time removing without heavy losses. In original CnC AI was allegedly non-existant, AI would send units to attack you with paths determined by static scripts. AI would always use Airstrike on your northernmost building. Build a wall with single well-defended opening and AI will attack through it instead of trying to destroy less-defended part of the wall.
fe6ff0 No.13643072
>>13640010
I still remember COH2 AI making about 80% of all units and tactics worthless due to the fact they could see through fog of war and stealth units.
b7bd2e No.13651013
d9a633 No.13651703
>>13643072
What, COH 2 AI does that?
ab85ad No.13660853
>>13590297
Red alert soundtrack is better.
f5a4b6 No.13661044
>>13651703
Yes it does. If you utilize any Commanders who's focus is stealth or ambush tactics you are pretty much gimping yourself.
d9a633 No.13661414
>>13661044
does it continue to do that shit till this day?
9a943b No.13661647
>>13661414
Yes
Which is why Spearhead mod is considered essential
479d7d No.13672774
Reminder that at some point in your life you may have actually fought against John Cena online.
fe6ff0 No.13672815
>>13672774
>Talks about RA3
>C&C3 footage
Triggers me everytime.
9c2404 No.13672817
>>13575233
>>13575241
>>13575230
>>13575228
The quality of these is really good. Do you have a dl link for the whole soundtrack? Anything from Yuri's Revenge & Firestorm? I mostly have gamerip quality tracks and a few higher quality versions but not all.
479d7d No.13672911
>>13672815
Yeah, that's always confused me as well. It was probably filmed before there was any RA3 gameplay footage available.
fe6ff0 No.13672992
>>13672911
They used raw trailer footage of C&C3 though
18412f No.13673464
>>13586306
>Nothing is worth dying for in this world
>except your kids if you have them
>not that you should
You sound like a nihilist and a hedonist. If you don't have something you'd be willing to die for, you likely have nothing to live for.
9c2404 No.13673875
>>13672817
>>13589156
I've looked at his site and it seems like it has everything and more, too bad you have to buy it through itunes. Something interesting I guess is that his tiberian sun soundtrack actually lists some tracks I've never heard in the game so thats neat.
4f617a No.13673937
>>13556197
something always bothered me.
Were Volkov and his dog (Chitzkoi) robots? or just trained soldiers?
73c142 No.13674001
>>13673937
Trained Dog Soldier Robots.
5b4601 No.13674282
>>13610715
It's the Black Hand Stealth Armor from Renegade, TWD era technology.
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth_soldier_%28Black_Hand%29
5452cd No.13674294
>>13673937
Volkov was a war veteran converted halfway into a cybernetic enhanced commando due to his injuries. Chitzkoi was full-on robot dog.
9c2404 No.13678904
>>13672817
>>13673875
>Look through hundreds of torrents, literally every single one is either an old gamerip or missing half of tiberian sun's & red alert 2's tracks
>FK's site actually has the newer versions of the tracks but only available if you go through some iShit to buy & download it
This is too cruel. TS & RA2 have such amazing soundtracks and yet there is nobody at all who has ever bothered to upload the newer higher quality versions of the tracks or if they have they're always missing the ones from the expansion. What gives?
0ee775 No.13684840
>>13678904
Same reason why most versions of the game don't even have cutscenes.
fe6ff0 No.13693005
I have a question anons, who is dumber. The Allies or GDI?
f3ad60 No.13693246
>>13693005
The soviets.
>Have the worst tank doctrine of all the factions, with NO ANTI INFANTRY VEHICLE except V2 launchers, which are hilariously terrible against infantry swarms, or Tesla tanks which also have the same trouble of refire rate and are only avaible later on in the game, where infantry are already irrelevant.
>have the worst air force out of all factions, Yaks not being able to clear out infantry cost-effectively and with so little ammo that they have to resupply after a single strafe run, meanwhile MIGs are an overpriced single-rocket memeplane that can't into anti-tank roles and get wrecked by allied AA in just a single strafe run
>have decent infantry, however they either all die to Allied rangers, artillery, their own flamethrowers exploding in a fireball ten times larger than a Nod flame tank or by their own Yaks attempting to do CAS
>Defenses inefficient, features heavy anti-infantry flame throwers that get outranged by the classic Allied light tank spam, meanwhile Tesla towers can't one-shot medium tanks and die faster due to no armor, despite being incredibly costly.
>Campaing is trainwreck. Backstab after powergrab after purge after insurgency after infiltration by spies, while overextending their resources into Europe, causing the Commander to be a babysitter for their army.
>At the end of the war, despite "winning" and conquering Europe, have their leader executed by Kane and have their army rot in pieces only for GDI to pick up them up and commence the slavshit tankspam cycle once again just a couple years later.
<or alternatively, if RA2
>STILL have no dedicated anti-infantry vehicle, except Terror Drones which die to dug-in infantry anyways
>worser infantry overal compared to the last war, no flametrowers now but rather walking jihadists who plant bombs on everything around them
>Still shittiest airforce, now with blimps. But at least they get a helicopter as an artillery piece, right?
>V2s downgraded to uselessness, a single static anti-air defense being able to defend against two for half the price
>Get backstabbed by Yuri and have half their army mindcontrolled, to the point where they have to destroy plenty of their bases in Russia because of it
Yet they still somehow are able to win the space race against USA and their Mammoths/Apocalypse tanks are radical, even if impractical.
At least GDI were smart enough to retrofit Rangers into Humvees for their fight against Nod.
6b0da9 No.13693836
>>13693246
Nice analysis, anon.
fe6ff0 No.13701532
>>13693246
Nice writeup anon.
62f3f7 No.13702513
I've seen both of them in t
fe6ff0 No.13708096
Any good Halloween maps anons can recommend?
2c7e29 No.13715718
>>13556197
Whose the QT supposed to be in Generals?
7d7c81 No.13716120
>>13708096
The giant ants missions from RA1?
f14efc No.13717078
>>13716120
>Giant Ants missions were meant to be somewhat canon, meant to be the formation of GDI
b7c8a3 No.13717144
>>13678904
you're looking for this.
c17400 No.13718349
>>13584338
>dude standing in front of some colored wall with no map or weather on it
>still pretends to point at a map with weather on it
of all the autistic things to complain about