/tech/ - Technology★

>>991419 (OP)

>How safe is Discord

Not at all

>Are they recording and keeping everything I poast forever

Yes

>Does deleting messages just hide them from me,

Yes

as safe as picking needles off the ground and sticking them in yourself

>>991419 (OP)

It's not safe at all.

>>991419 (OP)

if you ever learnt the restful api meme, just because it says DELETE as it's response doesn't mean you delete it, most likely it archives the message and deletes it a lot later usually five to ten years.

According to a representative on reddit:

(note: trust at your own will, /tech/ does not)

>Are they recording and keeping everything I poast forever?

Allegedly voice chat is only used for transmission, never otherwise stored.

Also:

>"Messages are stored on our servers in google cloud and are encrypted at rest".

I have assumed that means Google can do analytics on them, as they didn't clarify when asked whether they are encrypted before transfer.

Useful links (trigger warning!!!1! : reddit.com )

https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/9bzaqd/i_requested_my_personal_data_package_discord/

>Staff 1: "I was super concerned by this post, because we do delete all content when you delete a message."

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/9plaz1/discord_privacy/

(non-staff replies)

>If you delete your messages, they will still exist on a cached version of their backups. It will take a certain amount of time in order for the cached versions to get replaced. No one but Discord would know that amount of time.

>If you deactivate, it will stay the same and your data is still there. The safest way is to delete everything you've ever sent and wait - say 3 months or so and then delete your account.

>Your messages won't be deleted if you delete your account. You would have to go through each message yourself and delete them, which, unless you only wrote a handful of messages, will be impossible without some API abuse (and probably getting the account disabled by discord anyways).

Another consideration: check the bots in servers. Some of them retain messages.

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html

>>991432

>Your messages won't be deleted if you delete your account. You would have to go through each message yourself and delete them

Just like reddit lol.

Thanks for your input, doubleposter. That was very helpful.

Over Tor (with Proxifier, transparently with pf or iptables, or with Orbot) with fake info in the boxes? Moderately safe.

>>991419 (OP)

>How safe is Discord?

Who is your adversary?

As a general rule for software these days, if it's something the mainstream public uses en masse, it's botnet. It really isn't just a (((coincidence))) that these seemingly random pieces of software suddenly and spontaneously spread like wildfire in their first few weeks. Especially something that simply reinvents the wheel - Discord reinvents IRC and Teamspeak, for example. (((They))) can afford the marketing budgets to buy armies of shills, the best advertisement spaces in normiespace, and so on forth. Honest /ourguys/ don't have that kind of infinite money, so their stuff tends to be more obscure.

>>991440

People who don't like white nationalists.

>>991419 (OP)

My friends convinced me to download the application once and I found it very unsettling that it detects which game your running to display it to friends (kind of like Steam, but you don't have to launch it from the application itself).

So it inspects the processes running on your computer, which is should be a huge red flag for most people. It's spyware for that feature alone, let alone comms.

>>991458

Per

>>991436

it has a process logger.

>>991458

>which game your running

*you're

>>991461

Was reading that link just now. Fantastic write-up. Just lending my personal experience and ultimate conclusion.

>>991419 (OP)

discord says outright that it records everything that goes through it. I run a 8ch /k/ and /pol/ discord and i tell everyone who comes in that. We've had discord staff come in and tell us to 'calm down' before and a couple other interactions with them, they never seemed to care about content until it broke their rules (or bandwidth cap lmao)

The only actual problem we've had with them was when they changed the policy to ban gore and didnt tell us, almost deleted out server. Im kinda worried their gonna ban politics too but that would kill a lot of their community servers so I'm not sure they would do it, since they didnt after Charlottesville and it was organized at least partly on a discord server.

There are also tons(TONS) of Q-worshipping boomers on various discord servers that make for some extremely easy shitposting

>>991612

To me, them disclosing that they collect information at least gives the user (somewhat)informed consent. Even though it's kind of hidden in the privacy policy, its not hard to get the gist that they don't want to catch a lawsuit but other than that give 0 shits about what you post.

They are also extremely quick to remove pedophiles from the platform, so that's a plus

>Are they recording and keeping everything I poast forever?

Yes, just like 8chan and everything else

>>991434

On top of all this, discord uses Facebook for analytics. If you watch the traffic from your app you'll see regular calls to Facebook. They pull data like your phone's model, battery life, length of time between opening the app and closing it, and I believe SSID of your wireless network as well.

>>991776

don't see anything related to fecebook in uMatrix (when using web version)

>>991776

>They pull data like your phone's model, battery life, length of time between opening the app and closing it, and I believe SSID of your wireless network as well.

most of that is not private to begin with, or worthless

ITT "Let's tell kids not to use progress and keep using shitty IRC that's even more unsafe than discord in 2019."