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>infowars.com being taken down
Alex Jones was right.
▶ No.955803
how the fuck is it being taken down if I can access it ?
they just changed the site
▶ No.955807>>955845
>mock people saying it's the Jews
>get attacked by the Jews
▶ No.955809>>955816
That's fake news. I visited infowars.com right now.
▶ No.955816>>955817
>>955809
this is what the infowars.com looks right now disinformation jew
▶ No.955817>>955832
>>955816
Yes that's right, Infowars.com is available right now. What are you talking about?
▶ No.955822>>955824 >>955834 >>955878 >>955992
Call me what you want but I just don't care about fascists getting deplatformed.
▶ No.955823>>955992
Is funny their definition of abusive behavior includes "silencing someone else's voice", then they go do it.
▶ No.955825>>955992 >>956045
>>955824
The left never championed free speech, they championed their own speech. They aren't interested in letting you speak only that they themselves aren't censored.
▶ No.955832>>955833
>>955817
I'm guessing their host dropped them, and they've switched to some less capable provider with a leaner site. Apparently his site was down for several hours earlier in the day.
▶ No.955833
>>955832
he says they are being DDOS'd
▶ No.955834>>955835
>>955822
>Alex "It's everyone but the Jews" Jones
>fascist
Anyway which jew did he pissed off that cause all this, I haven't been paying attention to infowars.
▶ No.955835>>955836
>>955834
his ex wife was a jew
▶ No.955836
>>955835
Which is exactly why you don't marry a jewess. Jones married two so just imagine the hell he's been through, poor guy.
▶ No.955837>>955844 >>955847 >>955865 >>955876 >>955877 >>955881 >>955927 >>955931 >>955995 >>966780
>/pol/ defends rights of companies to discriminate against whomever they (hopefully gays and da jewz) want because freedom
>/pol/ screams when a company discriminates against them, as is their freedom
▶ No.955839
IT'S BACK!
CUCKFLARE BTFO!
NAZI CHICOMS ON SUICIDE WATCH!
https://www.infowars.com/
▶ No.955844>>955850 >>955995
>>955837
>oy vey you can't discriminate against niggers or faggots
<but don't you dare say a word when I discriminate against you, fascist!
▶ No.955845>>955859 >>955875
>>955807
>violate TOS by spreading slanderous lies about people, pushing shitty scam products, and insisting parents of dead kids are actually just liars and demons
>somehow surprised when nobody wants to host your content
▶ No.955847
>>955837
>>/pol/ defends rights of companies to discriminate against whomever they (hopefully gays and da jewz) want because freedom
/pol/ is a bunch of cringey retards now but I think you're pulling shit out of your ass with that one
▶ No.955850>>955856 >>955857 >>956002
>>955844
>bad consequences because of your actions is the same as bad consequences because of the way you were born
▶ No.955856
>>955850
>implying people are born faggots and not raped into it
>implying niggers dindu nuffin dey was good boy
>implying Alex Jones isn't Alex Jones because that's the way he was born
▶ No.955859>>955860
>>955845
Clearly that's why and not because he's a beacon for the alt-right. Unlike PETA and Greenpeace who mix in their slanderous lies with actual terrorist acts.
▶ No.955865
>>955837
>not baking a cake for a faggot is the same as not letting that faggot speak at all
▶ No.955875>>956079
>>955845
>violate TOS by spreading slanderous lies about people, pushing shitty scam products,
Are we talking about Alex Jones here or your average tabloid rag that's on every newstand throughout the western world?
They're censoring Alex Jones because it's obvious he had a huge impact on the past election and is effectively countering their propaganda. During his presidential campaign Trump was a guest on his network.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/remember-when-donald-trump-appeared-on-alex-jones-infowars-1.5443723
And an interesting extra tidbit from that article
>Mere hours before, though, Trump suggested to Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro that the post-election string of anti-Jewish bomb threats and cemetery vandalisms could be a false-flag, perpetrated by Trump opponents to make the president look bad.
>A 19-year-old Jewish Israeli-American named as Michael Ron David Kadar, was arrested in March in Ashkelon, Israel and charged with responsibility for "dozens" of the threats. He was suspected of threatening over 2,000 different institutions in the US, Canada, the United Kingdom, New Zealand, and Australia including the Israeli Embassy in Washington, the Israeli consulate in Miami, schools, malls, police stations, hospitals and airlines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Jewish_Community_Center_bomb_threats
▶ No.955876
>>955837
You obviously misunderstand the issue, their contention is that discrimination towards certain classes is a "hate crime."
▶ No.955877
>>955837
You misspelled joos, trannynigger.
▶ No.955878
>>955822
He's not a fascist, you're unironically brainwashed. Sad.
▶ No.955881>>955883 >>955884 >>955902 >>956083
>>955837
what if i want neither? fascists and commies are both cancer, so are all other authoritarians. i want freedom of speech and more of it
▶ No.955883
>>955881
There's no place for a middle ground in current year. Wars tend to end badly for nonaligned people, doubly so for civil wars.
▶ No.955884>>955886
>>955881
Freedom of speech is an underdog thing so you have to keep switching sides if you want it.
▶ No.955886>>955896
>>955884
Endorsing someone's right to speak is not the same thing as endorsing what they speak.
▶ No.955893
dig NS infowars.com +short
robin.ns.cloudflare.com
merlin.ns.cloudflare.com
gee whiz
▶ No.955896
>>955886
That's nice, but any group with massive power isn't going to let you speak freely, it doesn't matter who they are or what they stand for. That is the nature of power and how power is maintained. You have to side with the underdog if you want to speak your mind.
Maybe you are now aware that the promotion of free speech in the '60s by the same people who now say freeze peach and 'deplatform' was just to undermine power? Or maybe not. But it's again time to undermine power and promote free speech.
▶ No.955899>>956006
It's because his rhetoric becomes somewhat relevant if you substitute the word 'jew' for the word 'globalist'. (Which many people are starting to do.)
Anyway, why contain it. The more unfairly he is persecuted the more people will push back against it. Let their anger spill out into the real world. Let the sound they make rattling their cage serve as a warning to the jew that we are a mere word away from making their perverted holocaust fantasy a reality. Aquinas spoke of the "city on the hill" but we will not build a city, we shall erect a temple and ascend its' steps to become gods!
▶ No.955902>>955904 >>955905 >>956094
>>955881
pic related
If a PoC, LGBTQ+, or female reacts negatively to something you say it is his/her/xir RIGHT to beat the shit out of you and/or get you fired from your job.
▶ No.955904>>955907
>>955902
There is no law that gives people the right to violence for dissenting speech. Boycotting a business for dissenting speech is legally allowed.
▶ No.955905>>955906 >>956333
>>955902
>le nerdy can't-draw-for-shit guy xD
For a moment there I thought you were seriously making that retarded "not freedom from consequences" argument.
▶ No.955906>>955925 >>955991 >>956016 >>956071 >>956123
>>955905
Free speech doesn't imply freedom from consequences.
▶ No.955907
>>955904
>is legally allowed
Not if they're based in Israel.
▶ No.955925>>955937
>>955906
>Free speech doesn't imply freedom from consequences.
▶ No.955927
>>955837
>Mixing the right to select the right person for the job and saying what you want to say.
▶ No.955931>>955940
>>955837
Real hot take maybe you should have posted it on /pol/
▶ No.955937>>955946
>>955925
The fact that the church was the state in historical contexts doesn't have any meaning for today's free society. In a free society, people are welcome to speak their mind and people are welcome to feel offended from that speech. People are free to boycott businesses and call for firings of people with dissenting speech. A business who capitulates to the demands of a mob deserves to have a boycott as well.
What people aren't allowed to do is to commit acts of violence as a consequence of being offended.
▶ No.955940>>955996
>>955931
/pol/ would just delete it for being clueless.
Leftists have this idea that the right wing is being hypocritical with support for discrimination and that if they point that out minds_blown.jpg. But what's actually happening is they support discrimination and are mad that they aren't the ones discriminating. It's a consistent position, the same one that the commies held before they had the power to discriminate, and minds will remain intact.
Meanwhile, captain fedora will mumble "checkmate" to himself and waddle off for some pocky, never realizing that the nazis and commies both think he's a moron for not understanding the game.
Also, the game.
▶ No.955946>>955948
>>955937
It's some top shelf horseshit they've fed you as they've ensured unequal protection in law. Minorities, women, hate speech, etc.. They talk as they do now because they feel confident that consequences can only be felt by their enemies.
▶ No.955948
>>955946
>they've ensured unequal protection in law
I don't believe this is true. It is a fact that there is no law that supports unequal protection for speech.
▶ No.955967
Oy, vey! The goyim are realizing that the alt-right are a bunch of kike lovers that never named the (((✡))), (((we))) must do something!
▶ No.955991>>955997
>>955906
So I guess you won't mind if a website bans you for expressing an opinion they don't like.
▶ No.955992>>955996 >>956169
>>955822
I think it says a lot about you that you need to resort to a ridiculous euphemism like "deplatforming" for censorship to try to justify your support for it. You know why this is bad. That's why you're resorting to a word game to avoid admitting it.
>>955823
SJWs are really big on that kind of hypocrisy.
>>955825
Fuck off with the revisionist history. Just because there are crazy SJWs on the rise now doesn't mean the whole left was SJWs back then. The Free Speech Movement struggles of yore believed very strongly in "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." To quote Noam Chomsky, "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all." The whole idea was that people should be allowed to share objectionable and disagreeable ideas with one another. There's a reason why back in the day organizations like the ACLU defended the free speech rights of Nazis.
▶ No.955995
>>955837
>>955844
>Both sides of the isle is made up of the EXACT same type of people
▶ No.955996>>956002
>>955940
The core part of the right ideology is there is a "them" and an "us". It's not hypocritical for someone who values white people to want to discriminate against non-whites. It's completely within their ethics system and not a problem. The problem leftists see is they cannot view the world outside of their own ethical system. They cannot understand why someone on the right will defend whites while telling everyone else to fuck off in the same situation. They don't want equal treatment, they want special treatment for their ethnic group.
>>955992
Are you seriously quoting Noam Chomsky at people you little kike? The left never cared and never will care for free speech. It's a universal policy where as the loser you appeal to fair play but as the winner you don't need to appeal to it. This is how politics always works, it always has and always will work that way because it's the way human minds work.
▶ No.955997>>955999
>>955991
I don't mind that at all. I do not support websites to being forced to hold speech that they disagree. They can choose to hold that dissenting speech or not, it is not my responsibility to run those websites. What I support is that people taking responsibility and starting their own space to discuss ideas. What I don't support is people who maintain their own space being forced out of their speech because it isn't politically correct. If someone's speech is outright libel and slander, it is the responsibility of the rest of society to argue with speech about what's so wrong about it.
▶ No.955999>>956004
>>955997
The problem is these websites are not private companies working on their own. They're often intertwined with the government to the point where it's hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. If you believe in free speech then you need to define what free speech is in this grey area of industry.
Is Facebook a public space now that so many services use it or require it? If I have to fill out google captchas to get to a government contact form is google now part of the government or not?
The issue you have when you claim it's a private company is that it's clearly not a private company. It's in a blurry area between public square, government sponsored soap box and private data mining company. Until you can split this to be a 100% private company you can't simply say it's a private platform who can ban any one they want.
A good example of this is the local police use of Twitter. If I wish to stay informed on local traffic problems or warnings in my area I need to use Twitter to do it. If I get banned from Twitter because I say fuck niggers what happens then? I just got cut off from a government service I cannot get in any other way. Is that acceptable because it's a private website or is it an official government website which I should be able to access?
▶ No.956002>>956010
>>955850
>justifying censorship as a "consequence"
>calling political censorship because you didn't like what they said a "consequence"
Really now?
>>955996
>Are you seriously quoting Noam Chomsky at people you little kike?
Have you ever even read Chomsky?
>The left never cared and never will care for free speech.
I'll take Blatant Lies for 1000, Alex.
>This is how politics always works, it always has and always will work that way because it's the way human minds work.
The world is a big place. Any time some idiot claims to have figured human nature out he is just projecting massively onto society at large.
▶ No.956004>>956010
>>955999
>Facebook
Not a public space no matter how many public services make use of it. If your government service only accepts contact through Facebook, then I would question the government about why this is the case. If Facebook is one avenue of contact out of a range of avenues, then there is no problem.
>Google captcha
This is not a public forum where speech is held. Only robots are prevented from passing the captcha lock.
>Twitter
Not a public space. Nobody is required to have a Twitter account to see public Twitter feeds.
▶ No.956006
>>955899
Not that there have been kings..
GODS!
▶ No.956010>>956011
>>956004
>Deny everything and bury your head in the sand.
Great answers. Just deny everything and avoid the points being made of the government and private social media companies being a grey area.
>>956002
Have I read the jew who claims he's anti establishment while being funded by the establishment? Why yes, yes I have.
The people you claim cared for free speech are now the people in power. It's those people who are denying the right free speech. It's a constant cycle you can see all throughout history. The weaker calls for fairness because it has no other way to attack a stronger opponent. If fairness is given then they switch sides and the people who claimed to want fairness continue to power grab and shut down the losers. But you wouldn't know this because you can't even see through Chomsky's bullshit.
▶ No.956011>>956013
>>956010
I don't see any grey areas. I only see black and white in this instance.
▶ No.956013
>>956011
Then you're an idiot. There's no way around that fact.
▶ No.956015>>956017 >>956019 >>956027 >>956053 >>956067
On the first image we have Juan Requesens. He publicly opposed the government of Nicolás Maduro.
Consequences of exerting his free speech rights:
>he was charged with treason and plotting to murder the President
>he was imprisoned illegally
>nobody knows where he is right now or if he's alive
>the last video where he is seen, he looks several kilograms lighter (most likely due to starvation and sleep deprivation), he is drugged, beaten and covered in feces; speaking incoherently
>his friends and family are being harassed by the police and government zealots
On the second picture we have Alex Jones. He said the parents of murdered kids are trans-dimensional actor Jews attempting to take away all the American guns to rape children; causing a bunch of said parents to be harassed by nut-jobs.
He also said the basement of a pizzeria was a satanic, cannibal tunnel/sex dungeon that connects with the Democrat party headquarters and some random comedian’s house. The owner and employees of said pizzeria where harassed and the pizzeria itself was attacked by a crazed gunman who believed this bullshit. The pizzeria doesn’t even have a basement, which makes the entire thing a straight-up lie.
“Consequences” of his free speech rights:
>some websites decided they no longer want to host his content
You’re a bunch of whining little bitches. Alex is not being persecuted by his lies nor is he being imprisoned or harassed. Youtube and Facebook don’t want to host his content and Twitter suspended his account for a week. That’s it. His freeze peach hasn’t been violated.
▶ No.956016>>956018
>>955906
Incorrect. That's the entire point of free speech.
▶ No.956017>>956021
>>956015
>A social utility that monopolises public discourse arbitrarily decides that it holds moral authority over the people who use it, in perpetuity and without representation.
You know what to do Americans...
▶ No.956018
>>956016
No it's not. There is no law forcing people to be happy with other people's dissent, that people are required by law to not be offended by speech. That's the meaning when you define free speech to mean "free speech has zero consequence".
▶ No.956019>>956028
>>956015
It's funny how lefties completely lie about what Alex Jones said.
Shall we discuss the people the US government has kidnapped and tortured or do we just ignore those because they're not some brown mud person? Would you like to discuss MK ultra or is that off limits?
▶ No.956021>>956022 >>956080
>>956017
>A social utility that monopolises public discourse
Which one? Google, Facebook or Twitter? In what way are those "monopolizing public discourse"? Alex can publish shit on his website, on Voat, on Pawoo, Neocities, 4chan, 8chan, SMS, Telegram, or even yell into a megaphone (not that he would even need to.)
Those websites are popular, but they're not "monopolizing public discourse." Holy shit the amount of mental gimnastics you do.
>arbitrarily decides that it holds moral authority over the people who use it
They hold the authority to host or not to host content submitted to their websites. The same way a random restaurant holds the authority to attend or not a guy without shoes and shirt.
>in perpetuity and without representation
Yes, or you do not believe in private property? Are you implying Facebook, Google and Twitter should be nationalized? How socialist of you.
Furthermore, if americans cannot distinguish between companies, the government, free speech and laws; there's something fucked with your society and education system and you've got far more to worry about than the Youtube videos of some schizo.
▶ No.956022>>956026 >>956028
>>956021
When 99% of the public discourse happens on social media it's monpolizing it. Do you ignore how many news stories come out of social media now? Is the president using it as his primary communicate platform now public enough for you?
▶ No.956026>>956029
>>956022
Nobody is forcing anybody to use the big social media places. If I don't like those platforms, I will start my little newsletter and distribute them in my neighborhood to spread my message. If the president is saying something that affects me, my acquaintances are most likely to tell me.
▶ No.956027>>956028
>>956015
>He said the parents of murdered kids are trans-dimensional actor Jews
>Jews
Ummm sorry but no sweetie.
▶ No.956028>>956029
>>956019
>It's funny how lefties completely lie about what Alex Jones said.
<everyone I don't like is a leftie sjw jew dindu nuffin nigger XDD
The reason I chose a Venezuelan as an example of free speech being violated was so a retard wouldn't come assuming I was an evil trans-dimensional transexual Jewish communist. Of course you cannot see shit outside of "I'm good and everyone who disagrees with me is evil."
>Shall we discuss the people the US government has kidnapped and tortured or do we just ignore those because they're not some brown mud person? Would you like to discuss MK ultra or is that off limits?
Has Alex Jones been kidnapped, tortured and/or subjected to inhuman and unethical experiments as a result of his freeze peach? No, he hasn't. The only consequence of his retarded "theories" is that some private companies don't want to host his content anymore. Everything else is whining.
>>956022
>When 99% of the public discourse happens on social media
Where does that number even come from? If, and even IF, it was true; that's not Facebook's responsability. People can, and should, discuss shit outside of it.
Thankfyully it's not because people use instant messaging and real life meetings to discuss shit more often.
>it's monpolizing it
No, it's not. Something becoming popular it's not monopolizing something. Even implying this is beyond retarded. This sounds like something an edgy "socialist" teenager would say.
>Do you ignore how many news stories come out of social media now?
Do you ignore that it shouldn't be that way? Did you ignore all the campaings against Facebook for its usage of targeted ads and filter bubbles to feed whatever bullshit they're paid to feed their users, without verifying anything? Do you ignore that Facebook and Twitter are NOT news source and that people should be responsible enough to not use them as such?
>Is the president using it as his primary communicate platform now public enough for you?
The President should not use it as such and he doesn't have to. He chose to. Any objections to his actions should be directed towards him and not Twitter, because they're not responsible of who or what is published there. Otherwise they'd have to crack down even harder on Alex and all the other bullshitters.
What you're proposing -that companies should be nationalized and/or controlled by the goverment once they're big enough- is a retarded and socialist idea (redundant, I know.)
>>956027
The "Elite." Sorry.
▶ No.956029>>956033 >>956043
>>956026
Someone else being required to use it to inform you by proxy is still someone else using it.
>>956028
It's funny how obvious you people are. It's not even the terrible memes you post but your entire speech patterns show your true colours.
You're clearly from /intl/
▶ No.956033
>>956029
>You're clearly from /intl/
I don't even know what that board is. I only frequent /tech/ and /hisparefugio/.
But hey, nice to see your only retort is "you're a le ebil jew cummunist!"
▶ No.956034>>956038 >>956103
What does this have to do with /tech/?
▶ No.956038>>956040 >>956070 >>956082
>>956034
Nothing. This is a political thread about infowars and censorship.
▶ No.956040
>>956038
I agree fellow /tech/ poster.
▶ No.956043
>>956029
>Someone else being required to use it to inform you by proxy is still someone else using it.
What other people choose to do with their time is not my problem. If I know that they choose to subscribe to the president with Twitter, then I'm sure that his crazy antics will pop up in our interactions.
▶ No.956045>>956057 >>956063 >>956230
>>955825
>The left
Please define this group.
▶ No.956053>>956069
>>956015
>Censorship is okay as long as other people are being censored harder
Kill yourself. That is simply not how free speech works.
▶ No.956057>>956069
>>956045
Anyone that thinks the democratic party is center rightwing.
▶ No.956063
>>956045
The gay community.
▶ No.956067
>>956015
>The pizzeria doesn’t even have a basement,
And Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
>But Alefantis quickly won over the Food Network star during his visit to Comet Ping Pong.
>Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce --- we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.
https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/
▶ No.956069>>956093 >>956230 >>956258
>>956057
The Democratic party is center right. Your "left" politicians would be persecuted if they were in a left country.
>>956053
On the first photo there is a guy whose free speech right was attacked. On the second photo we have a guy whose videos are no longer hosted by YouTube. That's the point, what happened to Alex Jones is not censorship.
Hell, Alex Jones was suspended 7 days by Twitter, yet the Infowars account is still functioning. You guys are a just whining.
▶ No.956070>>956072
>>956038
>tech jews censoring wrong think isn't /tech/
▶ No.956071
>>955906
Almost but not quite.
>Say something someone doesn't like
>Other person will discuss opposing view
>Maybe something comes out of it
That's the main idea.
But what we have right now:
>Say something someone doesn't like
>Physical retaliation from another person, swatting, etc
That's a crime.
>Say something someone doesn't like
>Get reported, censored, deplatformed
The soy way.
▶ No.956072>>956077 >>956082 >>956192
>>956070
You've convinced me. What does Bill Gates eat for breakfast? What's Torvalds's favourite sex position? Those are tech related too.
In fact, television is digital now and that's tech, so let's make a thread about Game of Thrones.
Moron.
▶ No.956077>>956181
>>956072
>What does Bill Gates eat for breakfast? What's Torvalds's favourite sex position? Those are tech related too.
Exactly. Now write algorithm to determine Torvalds' favorite sex position from data available on LKML/other sources and post results here.
>In fact, television is digital now and that's tech, so let's make a thread about Game of Thrones.
Good idea. Post some screenshots and make thread about recreating VFX from scratch using OpenGL.
▶ No.956079
>>955875
>Are we talking about Alex Jones here or your average tabloid rag that's on every newstand throughout the western world?
Yeah, you'll notice those things have their own avenues to publish. Alex Jones can do the same. You are not entitled to service from YT, spotify, or any other online service.
▶ No.956080
>>956021
>Holy shit the amount of mental gimnastics you do.
Because I have to compensate for pindick brainlets like you.
If you haven't figured out the collusion between these platforms to promote a common agenda and the simple fact that, between them, they have monopolised their own domain of what comprises "discourse" social media then you might be better off finding some windows to lick clean rather than posting here.
▶ No.956082
>>956038
>>956072
go back to /g/ you fucking faggot
▶ No.956083>>956230
>>955881
Politics are just methods to manage the society in the best way possible (assuming you defined “best”). Both “right”, “left”, “center”, “25%” or whatever want you to think that there are “sides” to take but that's because they’re political ideologies: their solution to everything is to rewire the human brain to fit their morals. All ideologies are just (((their))) psyops.
▶ No.956087>>956122
There is no point in arguing with the left about free speech. They will ether invent new language or alter definitions to fit their actions or they will tell you outright they just don't give a fuck. Besides, it doesn't really matter if they agree or not, because even if they were onboard with passing some laws or trust busting, it wouldn't have a lasting effect. You can't solve a technical problem with a political solution, at least not in the long term. These tech giants are snakes with more money than god, no matter what the law says they will find a way to do what ever they want. The only solution is to create decentralized platforms which are resistant to censorship and manipulation. Unfortunatly that is the easy part. The hard part is popularizing them among normies so they aren't occupied solely by conservatives concerned about getting the alex treatment, violent extremists, pedophiles and the occasional schizophrenic.
▶ No.956093
>>956069
Ah yes because right wing means whatever the left thought 20 years ago. You know how fucking left wing republicans are?
▶ No.956103
>>956034
I admit this thread is turning into /pol/ trash with some idiot SJWs whinging about "denying people speech isn't censorship" (it takes a special kind of orwellian doublethink to achieve this mindset), nu/pol/tards whinging about jews and leftists (fuck off, retards), and other shitposting morons who think they are on >>>/g/ or shit (go to >>>/g/ already and stop shitting up /tech/), but digital free speech is a time-honored /tech/ concern. If you think the EFF and EPIC, for instance, are not /tech/-related either then you have a poor understanding of the interplay between politics and technology.
▶ No.956121
>>955798 (OP)
>infowars.com being taken down
They never claimed infowars.com was being taken down, you false flagging, scarecrow-constructing kike.
▶ No.956122>>956128 >>956160
>>956087
>advocating to kill millions of people is acceptable
>however suppressing my speech is not
gets my noggin' joggin'
▶ No.956123
>>955906
I don't agree with what you have to say about freedom of speech and would like to shoot you for it. You should find this acceptable, as it is a consequence of your speech.
>Do you wish to continue? [Y/N]
▶ No.956128>>956130
>>956122
>creating decentralized media platforms is genocide.
did you reply to the wrong post or something?
▶ No.956130>>956137
>>956128
<There is no point in arguing with the left about free speech. They will ether invent new language or alter definitions to fit their actions or they will tell you outright they just don't give a fuck
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▶ No.956137>>956140
>>956130
>pointing out the lefts habbit of sophistry is supporting genocide.
▶ No.956140
>>956137
No but putting words in my mouth because you can't properly refute the original statement is. Do not reply with bullshit, I won't reply next time.
▶ No.956160
>>956122
I agree. Advocating for communism has no place on the internet. Millions die every time.
▶ No.956169>>956188
>>955992
>The Free Speech Movement struggles of yore believed very strongly in "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
The hippies of the 60s and 70s are the professors of today. If they believed in freedom of speech so much back then, how come they're teaching their students that free speech is racist now? The answer is simple: they never believed in freedom of speech. They pretended to when it was advantageous to them, and dropped the act when it became advantageous to their enemies.
▶ No.956181
>>956077
>Exactly. Now write algorithm to determine Torvalds' favorite sex position from data available on LKML/other sources and post results here.
this but unironically
▶ No.956188>>956191 >>956193 >>956211 >>956222 >>956239 >>956294
>>956169
Again, hate speech =/= free speech.
How many fucking times do we have to tell you authoritarian fucks before it sticks? Calling a PoC the n word IS A CALL TO VIOLENCE. FULL FUCKING STOP. Brandenberg v. Ohio will be overturned in our lifetime and all of you fascists will be imprisoned thanks to our web crawling prowess. It's not "edgy" to be racist, its violent and bordering on domestic terrorism. If I have to hear another one of you rationalize this hate speech I'm going to blow my fucking brains out. Enjoy the last 5 or 10 years you have before jail time.
▶ No.956191
>>956188
>I'm going to blow my fucking brains
you should do it right now you faggot porch monkey worthless coon nigger
▶ No.956192
>What's Torvalds's favourite sex position?
i'm pretty sure he doesn't get pounded in the ass by niggers on a regular basis unlike
>>956072
▶ No.956193>>956196
>>956188
The Supreme Court rules against you, hate speech is free speech. If I tell a nigger to shoot me and he does that's not my fault. Words should be fought with words, not actions. Its not really hard to understand.
▶ No.956196
>>956193
In fact "hate" speech is the only kind of speech that free speech is useful for since speech that everyone agrees with doesn't really need protection.
▶ No.956197
I hope all of you have been downloading all the wrongthink material you know of from sites like youtube. We're going into a crazy new world. We should probably have a thread listing other important things to archive, and as much as I hate it for bias, wikipedia is one of them. Last time I checked it's an 18gb download.
▶ No.956211
>>956188
This is a pretty good shitpost. Have a (You).
▶ No.956223>>956228
who the fuck cares? fuck infowars, biggest fucking liars on the internet aside from maybe some left-wing shit.
▶ No.956224
infowars exploits people's paranoia to sell their shitty products. i hope they fucking die, i treat them the same as buzzfeed
would you be upset buzzfeed was taken down? of fucking course not
▶ No.956228
>>956222
fucking shat myself
>>956223
you can dismiss whatever you want that way
That's the very only reason why it matters. We all know that infowars is pile of shit.
▶ No.956230>>956250
>>956045
Any one who subscribes to any form of modern mainstream politics and anything left wing of that is a good start.
Defining the entire left is impossible because it's so splintered, everyone claims to be the true communist and all the others fake.
>>956069
If you believe in equality then you're a radical left winger by any sane definition.
>>956083
Except for the people who base their ideology on biology and getting optimal functionality out of the human condition.
▶ No.956239
>>956188
you are a nigger.
▶ No.956250>>956260
>>956230
I believe in equality under the law and equality of opportunity. I don't believe in equality of outcome.
▶ No.956258>>956261
>>956069
>It's not censorship as long as people can be censored much harder.
Kill yourself. That is simply not how free speech works. Having your content blocked and deleted is still censorship.
▶ No.956260>>956272
>>956250
Which is still an extreme left wing position. Right wing believes in an us and a them. It believes in hierarchies where the people at the top have more responsibility to balance their increased power. A man of good character who makes 1 mistake should be punished less than a man who repeatedly makes that same mistake.
Equal opportunity again is extreme left wing. I only have one son so I wish to pass my estate and my title to him. If it's equal opportunity then my son cannot inherit anything from me since that is unequal in my son's favour.
You think you're "classically liberal" but what you are saying is "I wish to dismantle all hierarchy and traditional behaviour. I wish for the foreigner to be equal to the native and that a family should not be allowed to pass anything on to their children nor make decisions which favour themselves over others".
You are so extreme left wing you don't even understand how destructive you are to nations. You're a prime example of how well the communists have brainwashed people over the decades because you consider it noble to put others before yourself which will ultimately lead to your own replacement and eventual death.
▶ No.956261>>956263 >>956292
>>956258
There is nothing wrong with censorship from a private company. Just don't use them to do your communication.
▶ No.956263>>956267
>>956261
Same goes for government censorship. Just vote for someone else if you don't like having all contrary opinions censored. Oh, you lost again because only your adversaries can get their word out? Too bad.
▶ No.956267>>956268 >>956271
>>956263
Yes and if you don't like your goverment move quit that one and go somewhere else. If you don't want to be censored I would reccoment the USA because we have actual free speech.
▶ No.956268>>956270
>>956267
And prison camps like Guantanamo Bay for people who say things the government really doesn't like. And experiments on the general public like MK Ultra to find how best to brainwash people.
Yea, you have freedom of speech as long as you don't say anything the government wants to silence.
▶ No.956270>>956275
>>956268
Yes, I remember Alex Jones when he was detained to Guantanamo for exposing government conspiracies ... oh wait, that never happened.
▶ No.956271>>956274
>>956267
>if you don't like your goverment move quit that one and go somewhere else
Just leave the country if you don't like it. Oh you're white and no one will take you in because you don't have a piece of paper? Not our problem. White people must have 50 years experience at skilled labor plus 10 year degree from an (((accredited))) institution because we only want the best! If you're a brown asylum seeker you can come in and get on welfare though because we don't want to be racists
▶ No.956272>>956275
>>956260
>If it's equal opportunity then my son cannot inherit anything from me since that is unequal in my son's favour.
I don't understand what is your idea of equal opportunity but I don't think that is the same as my idea. Equal opportunity to me means meritocracy: if you have the skills, then I will choose you to work in this job. Equal opportunity means ignoring race, gender, sexual orientation and religion and focusing on skills and ability to work with other people.
▶ No.956274
>>956271
Just wanted to add to the various shills in this thread: Your attempts to control discourse aren't working and will never work on folks with common sense. It's obvious that the powers that be are attempting to disarm and get rid of free speech in America. They want us all living in a country sized prison.
Us decent people just wanted to live our lives, raise families, and earn a living. But you couldn't leave us alone and let us form pockets of decent society within this hell hole. So now we're armed and becoming radicalized and fed up with footing the bill for all the niggers, spics, and mud you've imported. We're sick of being unable to walk down the street without seeing degeneracy everywhere and being told to love it or leave it. Keep this in mind when you're facing the firing squads. You drove us to this and we have no other choice. Your fault for pushing too far too fast and taking away the video games and television. Now you've got an entire generation that used to play FPS games buying real firearms and training with them. You turned up the heat too fast and now the frog has jumped out of the pot and armed himself.
▶ No.956275>>956279
>>956272
Your stance contradicts it's self.
I have 1 job on offer. It's head awesome guy who does stuff. I have a choice between hiring my son or running an interview and then picking the best person for the job.
You cannot have meritocracy and be fine with me giving giving my son a job. They contradict each other. So you're saying dismantle the traditional family structure and give the job to other people who aren't my bloodline.
And just because I feel like bullying you.
Sex matters. You don't hire a 28 year old woman who is about to get married over a 28 year old guy who is about to get married ever. The odds of the woman ending up pregnant and quitting in a couple of years is sky high compared to the risk of the man quitting. Only an idiot would ignore sex when hiring people because men and women are clearly unequal and vastly different animals.
I'm not going to bully you on race, homosexuals or religion because it's not worth writing an essay on. But you're incredibly dumb if you believe these things to be non-issues.
>>956270
Nice strawman. At no point was Alex Jones mentioned in my comment. You said the US has "actual free speech", I proved the US doesn't have free speech. I only have to prove the US does restrict it's citizens speech and abuses it even once and I've disproved that you have free speech.
▶ No.956279>>956280 >>956293 >>956295
>>956274`
>>956275
>You cannot have meritocracy and be fine with me giving giving my son a job. They contradict each other.
Now this is a strawman position. Since you believe that these are dichotomies, you'd be correct that they are contradictions. I don't believe these are a dichotomy. I actually believe that it is possible to give a job to your family under meritocracy. If you give a job to your son while more qualified people applied for that job, that is not meritocracy, that's nepotism. Nepotism isn't illegal and it isn't immoral and it isn't important to me.
> So you're saying dismantle the traditional family structure and give the job to other people who aren't my bloodline.
Another strawman position. Equal opportunity in employment has zero connection to the promotion or destruction of the family structure. Connecting these issues is a non-sequitur.
>Only an idiot would ignore sex when hiring people because men and women are clearly unequal and vastly different animals.
I don't ignore sex at all. All I have to do is prove how one person has a higher merit than another person. Risk is always inherent for everything, men don't have a lower risk of failing to work in two years because of a new baby in the family. A man quitting in two years is equally as likely as a woman quitting in two years because that's what freedom is.
>race, homosexuals or religion
Muh meritocracy. If you can do the work with everyone else in the job, then I will consider you. If you can't work with everyone else, that is objectively less merit.
▶ No.956280>>956281
>>956279
>arguing semantics because you got BTFO
and you wonder why no one takes you serious.
▶ No.956281>>956283 >>956293
▶ No.956282
Sam Hyde just got the boot off youtube for violation of community guidelines
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuFlctNwFfnzjDC5UzB6fFQ
Who's next?
▶ No.956283>>956284
>>956281
Keep digging that hole. Those tactics don't work anymore on the normalfags and they certainly aren't going to work with me. You have no argument so you've resorted to bringing up irrelevant bullshit because you can't argue against free speech and free ownership of guns.
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▶ No.956285
>>956284
Not an argument :^).
▶ No.956292>>956296 >>956306
>>956261
>Censorship is okay as long as it's private companies doing it.
Kill yourself. That is simply not how free speech works. The ideal of free speech is about the free and open communication of ideas, and the underpinning of these protections is that people must have the right and ability to express disagreeable and objectionable ideas. Agreeable ideas need no such protection. Whether a public or private body commits censorship is largely immaterial.
Inb4 some idiot thinks the first amendment of the US constitution is the end-all be-all definition of free speech. It is not a definition of free speech at all. It's a piece of legislation and as such only reflects the government's duties and responsibilities towards it (ie. staying the fuck out of the way).
▶ No.956293>>956300 >>956359
>>956279
> A man quitting in two years is equally as likely as a woman quitting in two years because that's what freedom is.
It really isn't. That's like saying smoking and not smoking gives you an equal chance of lung cancer because people who don't smoke some times get lung cancer.
Equal employment is destructive to the family structure on multiple levels.
>Women working lowers the overall demand for workers due to more of them
>This lowers the income average since women don't value higher pay as much as men making them cheaper to hire and lowering overall wages through excess supply
>This means it's impossible for a single income to support the average family home
>This forces more women into the work place further devaluing the income
>This lack of parent in the home means strangers now raise the children through day care and school
>This means family values aren't passed on as parents spend less time with their kids than the government does
>Family meals are no longer wholesome because parents work full time and no one is there to cook the meals, it all has to be fast as everyone is tired.
>House is now much dirtier because there isn't a full time care taker for the house. Families instead use very harsh cleaning solutions for quick fixes which end up making their kids have allergy problems.
>Community is now weaker because the mothers aren't arranging local events together. This means kids aren't getting the same social interaction with their family and neighbors building up the family connections which lead to kids hooking up to form new families in the community. Creating a cycle of family and tradition being one and the same.
>Increased competition in the job market through almost double the work force + outsiders being brought in means it's no longer viable for 1 family to be tied to a company where father and then son work.
>This means people are competing for jobs across the entire country at all times
>Local jobs go to outsiders who aren't part of the community and end up fracturing it when too many outsiders arrive
>These outsiders have moved away from their own communities and so broken their family ties
>Instead of having family and community to support them they use strangers to do so
>This increases the size of the government and non-family based structures who then pressure any one family orientated into doing the same thing
>Kids entire lives are sacrificed on the pyre of getting more money to keep up with the outsiders doing the same thing where you live.
>If the man doesn't play this same game hypergamy will kick in and the wife will leave him for a richer man and deny him access to his children
>Man is stuck between sacrificing his family or losing his family where he will still be forced to pay for children he may never even see.
I could go on more but you're promoting feminism which is nothing but dismantling the family unit no matter how you measure it. Economic and social attacks on the traditional family is what you promote. You wrap it up in leftist terms and you feel like you're on the moral high ground. All the single mothers, all the drug addict children who never knew their parents have you to thank for you. You're a vile human being who's only purpose in life is to tear down everything and then claim how much better it is to be living in filth. You're utterly disgusting and you're too damn ignorant to even see the puke stained wrappings you wear like a king's crown
>>956281
and just because you're a smug little twat.
>More cars on the road due to two working parents
>More traffic causes more pollution.
>More damage to the roads
>Longer travel times so less time with the family
>More repair work so costs more money and that means the family has to pay higher taxes and can invest less in it's self.
>More roads need to be built for the increased number of cars which is also more tax money.
>This destroys more of the landscape (and communities who live in those areas are disrupted by noisy/dangerous roads so end up moving away) which increases the pollution and lowers natural areas for people to go
>Lack of exposure to nature increases mental health problems including depression and anxiety
>Women working just made a massive influence on every sphere of health
<but my equality
Butt fucked faggot.
▶ No.956294
>>956188
>How many fucking times do we have to tell you authoritarian fucks
You're the authoritarian fuck, look at yourself, trying to control how people speak. Calling someone a nigger or a cunt or a dick or a douchebag or a cracker is not a call to violence. Calm down and look at yourself.
▶ No.956295
>>956279
> A man quitting in two years is equally as likely as a woman quitting in two years because that's what freedom is.
You're literally insane. Like psychotic.
▶ No.956296>>956297 >>956299 >>956366
>>956292
If anything freedom of speech need more legal protections not less. I think discrmination laws should include political and other statements, it should be illegal to fire someone for the political opinion whatever it is, as long as you're not literally calling for people to get killed. There is literally no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to fire you for your religious views but should be allowed to fire you for your political views.
▶ No.956297>>956366
>>956296
Additionally this would embolden people of kinds of different ideas to actually engage and talk to each other instead of being scared shitless of becoming unemployable because youre too right wing or too left wing or too critical of a certain part of government or whatever
▶ No.956299>>956366
>>956296
I wonder if an esoteric hitlerist could get fired by a commie company for being a nazi since that's just part of his religion. Of course, the law only cares for the big religions, small ones get no legal protection.
▶ No.956300>>956307
>>956293
Your posts are useful because there are always newfags lurking that haven't woken up. Don't hold out hope that you'll change that faggot's mind though as he's too far gone. He has the entire knowledge of the human species at his fingertips and he chose to believe the propaganda and mass media instead of using his critical thinking skills to seek out the truth. He's the definition of Yuri's useful idiot and he'll continue to spread the filth until the day he dies. His only concern is to appear like he's smarter than everyone else in the room.
▶ No.956301
>be CNN
>host people presented as authorities who consistently tell people that Mike Brown was shot by a racist cop while he was on his hands and knees with his hands up begging for mercy
>intercut these segments with tear-jerking documentaries about legitimate racism from history
>Literally results in multiple riots, multiple people killed, millions in damages, etc..
>Video of blacks marching down the streets looking for white people to attack
>Half the country now believes in a mass conspiracy of every judge, lawyer, cop, authority and victim of crime to persecute blacks for no reason
>Cops literally have to go into hiding now after shooting someone regardless of how justifiable because mobs surround their homes
>Livestream show blacks screaming in cops faces that they're going to rape their children and kill them but every news station reports "peaceful protesting"
>lol who cares? Alex Jones' speech is violence!
▶ No.956306>>956308 >>956312
>>956292
If someone sends me a letter and I decide not to open it, am I violating the sender's right of free speech? This is directly anagolous to what we are talking about over the internet. The sender was able to exercise his right by writing the letter. Just because I don't want to open it and share what's inside with other people, it doesn't mean I'm violating their write to free speech.
▶ No.956307>>956310
>>956300
It's most likely one of the trolls raiding 8ch right now. But he gives me a soap box to preach from so let him do it.
▶ No.956308>>956311
>>956306
If I put a telephone down on the ground and you try to use it on a Tuesday without paying for it then is that violating your free speech?
I think not!
▶ No.956310
>>956307
No, castigate him as hard and as much as possible lest these faggots will stay here permenently.
▶ No.956311
>>956308
What if it's Wednesday?
▶ No.956312>>956317
>>956306
This is nothing like that. A more accurate example would be someone sending a letter and some random guy at the post office reading it and deciding to toss it into trash because he didn't enjoy reading it's contents. I wish your ISP would have done that to your post, so people wouldn't waste their time on your obtuse nonsense.
▶ No.956317
>>956312
Yours would be the case when the ISP or some other part of the network throws away the packet. We are talking about the case when it is recieved by the target, but they choose to ignore it or send you back a packet of their own.
▶ No.956331>>956335
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▶ No.956333
>>955905
Same reason they deplatformed stefan m in NZ after he proved the aus abo to be a conniving group of money grabbers, he mentioned how the noble savage would abort and abuse upto 50% of their young and also mentioned the very HIGH rate of hearing loss among abos , fastforward not even a week the Aus govt now plans to give more million$$$$$$ to abos whos kids go deaf from ABUSE. Laughable really.
▶ No.956335>>956336
>>956331
Alex Jones just cannot catch a break. Even 8/tech is censoring now. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
▶ No.956336>>956338
>>956335
You're wrong. Multiple threads that discuss the exact same thing need to be culled to the one thread. When that one thread reaches its limit, that's the time when it is good to start a new thread.
▶ No.956338
>>956336
It's a joke you god damn autist.
▶ No.956359
>>956293
So what you're saying is that women shouldn't work because you want your dinner ready and your house clean, therefore women shouldn't be free to pursue a career and should stay at home.
This is authoritarianism at its finest. No wonder why other websites don't want to host your bullshit.
▶ No.956366
>>956296
Religion is usually something passed through family. Religion is family values, it's tradition, it's culture. The fact that a supposes conservative doesn't seem to understand this, being a platform you should be supporting, is mind boggling.
Politics is just an opinion, not an inherent part of you, and it's a reason why it shouldn't be protected. Other reasons why protecting political views is retarded: people would lose the ability to protest against politicians or their platforms, people would lose the ability to piblicly denounce politicians, politics discussions would be warped into a minefield of possible jail time.
>>956297
Discriminating based on political views when employing is already illegal on some States.
>>956299
Nazism is not a religion and it never will be. Also, for something to be legally considered a religion it has to be accepted as such by the government. This is to avoid cults to become untouchable by the justice and also to prevent some idiot from saying "murdering is my religion you can't prosecute me!" And such.
▶ No.959402
They're not "taking it down". It's just that they're downsizing.
▶ No.966780
>>955837
>/pol/ screams when a company discriminates against them, as is their freedom
>implying alex jonestein is /pol/