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So the trailer for this new film about the deep, dark web came out a few months ago (its recently become more popular), and it looks cringey as fuck to anyone who knows even slightly what they're talking about when it comes to the dark web, or computers, or even just common sense.
Everything in this trailer is stupid.
From the film's tor browser clone "river browser" having to span itself over fourteen different nodes to access its sector of the dark web (on the river network I guess. You know, "tor" actually stands for something, it means something. What the fuck does "river" mean?), to how the villain whose supposedly this genius hacker person carelessly leaves his laptop in a coffee shop (and gave his user account the most suspicious username ever), to how this moron who works in a coffee shop somehow managed to get into this guys account either because it wasn't password protected (some hacking genius this guy is) or that it was so easy to crack that even this coffee shop moron could crack it, to why the fuck is this genius hacker person accessing the darkweb on his host operating system which is none the less a mainstream operating system that is likely to catch a virus, e.c.t.
So this all got me thinking about something which has been bothering me for quite a while now. Why do most people not know shit about the darkweb?
As far as Computer Science goes, it's relatively simple to understand.
But you always hear people, especially online, talking complete bullshit about it.
I see it in my school a lot where you have these stupid kids boasting about how bad-ass they are because they downloaded the tor browser (again, on their fucking host operating system. If they actually get the balls to browse the dark web properly their computer is going to break in like five seconds).
I actually showed one of the students in my school that I had downloaded the tor browser. He was terrified because he thinks that the browser itself is illegal and that just accessing the dark web is illegal.
It got to the point where he actually tried to bribe me to delete the tor browser.
So back to my main question. Why do people not know shit about the dark web?
So yeah, now that's out of my system, do you guys have any .onion links or link lists you could share?
["Unfriended Dark Web" Trailer] i iedadafe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XenTM_C9fxM
▶ No.952608>>952667 >>952843 >>953368 >>953381 >>953627
>Why do most people not know shit about the darkweb?
Why would they, anon? It's not like they're PEDOPHILES, am I right? Everybody knows that PEDOPHILES are the only ones who want to hide their online activity. Anyone who isn't a PEDOPHILE has no need to know about the evil, PEDOPHILE-enabling dark web.
▶ No.952626>>952635 >>952639 >>952863
>>952595 (OP)
To be fair, didn't the owner of Silk Road get taken down due tp retarded opsec on his part? It's not that inconceivable that le darkweb hackerman could be a retard who thinks le darkweb is all he needs to protect his identity.
▶ No.952635>>952639
>>952626
He was likely framed, it wouldn't take much for a group of well connected corrupt federal agents to get someone to have incremenating evidence posted to public forum and have the date modified.
Several agents from different agencies were charged after the case for trying to flee the country with hundreds of thousands in cash while hundreds of bitcoins were missing. And then there's the issue with the fake IDs that were probably purchased by the agents and sent to their patsy in order to incriminate him. The story about an assassin that was hired(another fed agent) was so far fetched they ended up dropping that story.
The whole thing was a massive shitshow and 8chan was a participant as the judge had his information posted here.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/02/notorious-8chan-subboard-has-history-wiped-after-federal-judges-doxing/
▶ No.952639
>>952626
>>952635
He had an FBI agent working directly within silk road. She would later go on to work for Silkroad 2 and fuck everyone there as well.~
Is OP 12 as well as a faggot? Any movies or TV series involving tech are always completely wrong. Hollywood hacks don't understand tech and just write shitty stories based on the memes of tech.
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▶ No.952665>>955386
NEWSFLASH
Movies and broad mainstream culture at large takes few tiny bits of every niche cultural corner to bastardize and make point out of (how this cultural corner went too far away and that they need to keep it more to mainstream).
They also take everything and make it more extreme for normie mind to actually look at.
But even in that deep deep sea of lies there are few little bits of truth here and there. Those things might call someone that seeks truth over to our side?
Overall, it is dumb to be mad over something a jester does. His job is to make fun of everything and entertain. Just "do what thou wilt" and be a 23 year old boomer and take a sip I guess. Life is a pussy, finger her.
▶ No.952666
let me guess, they see a bunch of CP and le darknet markets and the end of the world happens. when normies see this shit tor will become illegal and we will all have to use google chrome with a google plus account
▶ No.952667>>952679 >>952835 >>954300
>>952608
Most of Tor traffic goes to pedo sites tho, there was some research
▶ No.952675>>952677 >>952679 >>954300 >>955463
>>952595 (OP)
All you need to know about the darkweb.
1) Created by the US Navy
2)Has drawn the attention of every Government on Earth for the illegal content it once held.
3) Said governments ass raped it, and got rid of basically 95% of the content.
4)Still slow as fuck
5) The average image board, if it survived, was posted to a minimum of a year or two ago.
6)Nothing in the wiki even works.
7) Its fucked and pretty much useless for now.
▶ No.952677>>955482
>>952675
You're honestly better off, not using it.
Not because it is evil, but because it is like a giant wasteland of "fucking nothing".
If you use tor, use it to make your traffic anonymous, don't use it, trying to find any form of tor based content. The tor network and all of its hosting is basically a a nuclear wasteland of nothing. Sure you might find some guys blog for 4 years ago, but nobody gives a fuck about that, now do they?
▶ No.952678
>>952595 (OP)
The only thing worth browsing TOR for was HackBB.
They nuked the fuck out of it as well, from what I could tell. All the links, even in the hidden wiki, for hackbb no longer work.
▶ No.952679>>952680 >>952878
>>952667
You are remembering it wrong. Do some of your own research first, next time.
>>952675
It's not useless. In fact, I am using it right now. (OK, technically I'm using an onion service to post this but it's not very dark.)
▶ No.952680
>>952679
Like I said, you are using it, but you aren't really getting "tor exclusive" content. Just a mirror of a clearnet shitposting site.
▶ No.952835>>952844 >>952878
>>952667
If that was based on the amount of data, I could believe it. You can download a whole lot of text for a few dozen pictures.
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▶ No.952843
>>952608
i know this is just satire, but it's sad some really think like this.
>be faggot in encryption free earth
>be Mr. C, Team Leader in LA
>have to send/discuss company secrets for project to some faggot colleague Mrs. K in NY via email
>introduce random faggot slurping data from inbetween nodes
>random sells info to whos
>the whos launch identical product
Only way to stop this is to live in a police state. It's funny how privacy rights can sound like white noise until you lose them.
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▶ No.952863>>952903 >>952969 >>961325
>>952626
That thing about opsec was most likely parallel construction, and proof that Tor is compromised.
▶ No.952878>>952906 >>952928
>>952835
And? How would you evaluate normal internet traffic? By informational value of media?
The fuck you talking about? Network congestion and ammount of data being put through any given net is the only real evaluator because network speed is a factor people pay for. And big hosting companies pay for amount of data their sites put out.
The fuck you talkin about willis?
>>952679
>nu-huh
Yu-huh
▶ No.952903>>952968
>>952863
Without proof, that looks like backwards logic
▶ No.952906
>>952878
You could keep an eye on the activity of the site by counting the requests it receives.
Even better you could be checking the ratio of requests to data transmitted and get a better image of what's going on.
▶ No.952928>>952986
>>952878
Your argument was about the average guy using .onion sites, not hosters.
If you intend to profile people using the darkweb, you'd be better off evaluating activity along the lines of (time spent on-site based on activity log)*(Multiplier based on average time spent with material from site (for example, how long an average pedo faps to an archived CP-pic multiplied by (filesize dled/average archived single CP pic)) to account for activity-heavy but data-light sites like forums and vice-versa as well as CP sites.
Just because I download a few episodes of 1080p anime a day doesn't mean I spend a hundred times more time watching anime than writing on imageboards.
▶ No.952968>>952975
>>952903
eh, they use a backdoor, identify him, frame him.
not that impossible
▶ No.952969
>>952863
Asante of the shroomery denies it being compromised though. He said it's only been involved in one unrelated case about divorce in the courts.
▶ No.952975
>>952968
The problem is that you're assuming a very surprising thing (tor being compromised) to explain a mostly trivial thing (one guy getting caught),: without evidence to justify that, it's nothing but conspiracy wankery.
▶ No.952981
the silk road guy was v& because he used his email on the clearnet once
▶ No.952986>>952989 >>953008 >>953189 >>954300
>>952928
Nibba you braindead
I said "most of Tor traffic", I never said anything about Tor users. Just saying a statistical fact that Tor is used by and for MOSTLY pedoshit. And the ammount of data mostly used by Tor is pedo stuff. So in conclusion, if your Tor network spends petabytes transfering pedo material and few kilobytes transfering text connected to privacy concerns and whistleblowing, what do you think what Tor supports more? What is conclusion here?
▶ No.952989>>953007
>>952986
>Nibba
>a word used by white people who are afraid of saying nigger
kys
▶ No.953007
>>952989
>not realizing it I used it ironically to express white type of reserved ressentment and calm anger
Nigger nigger nigger nigger
Happy?
Glupkoooo taj mali lutak vozi auto praviiiii
▶ No.953008>>953127 >>953189 >>953205
>>952986
Notwithstanding your stupid halfchan reaction image, notwithstanding your brain-dead white, teenage suburbanite prose, you are blatantly lying.
You want to talk about statistical fact? Are you referring to the statistical knowledge that you're clearly blowing out your ass? Or are you talking about the facts you clearly don't have? I've run a Tor node for almost a year, and I have the quantifiable knowledge necessary to reasonably infer that less than 3% of Tor traffic is for hidden services. 97% of Tor traffic, over three standard deviations, is for clearnet.
▶ No.953046
> If they actually get the balls to browse the dark web properly their computer is going to break in like five seconds
Holy fuck, a retard is you.
▶ No.953057
>>952595 (OP)
similar flick to one about 5 years ago with a similar name that was never published. 2¢ script
▶ No.953127
>>953008
How do you know that information though? Does exit nodes also participate in exchanging data through rendezvous points?
▶ No.953137
You're all cancer and you need to be +18 to post here. Your movie is irrelevant and shitty. Go live stream your suicide on "muh darknet", faggots.
▶ No.953189>>953205
>>952986
My conclusion is you're retarded or propagandizing.
>>953008
Thanks for running an exit node. There was another study that showed popularity of various onion sites, and illicit content was another small fraction of that 3%. In other words, CP on Tor is about as prevalent as CP on clearnet.
▶ No.953203
>>952595 (OP)
>The Purge
>Happy Death Day
Yep, it's gonna be shit.
>why do normies not know about the dark web?
Why should they? There is no content there that interests them. Whatever they want is indexed by search engines.
The fame of the dark web was not given by the normies, mind you. It truly has illegal content and everyone who refers to it, both inside and outside of it, exaggerates it's contents.
▶ No.953205>>953387
>>953008
>>953189
Exit nodes are not used when a onion site is visited, though.
▶ No.953368>>953374 >>953843 >>955388
>>952608
but thats not wrong
>block TorPedos on 8ch
>no CP is ever spammed again
of course we know CIAniggers do this to scare us away from tor and prevent us from posting anonymously but you cannot deny tor has a foundation in pedophilia.
▶ No.953374
>>953368
What? Tor users have never been able to upload images on 8chan. Just post text.
▶ No.953381>>953414
>>952608
>Tor users have never been able to upload images on 8chan
It's a board-specific setting. /tech/ blocks image posting for tor users, but some other boards do not.
▶ No.953387
>>953205
He is braindead idiot that larps online for replies because he is lonely
Just let him be
▶ No.953414
>>953381
>It's a board-specific setting
No it isn't, it's site wide. It's been that way since the HS was first introduced years ago. I've been using the hidden service since the vanity address began with fullchan (then hotwheels leaked the private key in IRC)
▶ No.953439
>If they actually get the balls to browse the dark web properly their computer is going to break in like five seconds
Just disable FBI's javascripts, you dunce
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▶ No.953843
>>953368
it was funded by the navy.
remember goys, it's better to browse over cleartext than to assimilate with TORPEDOS RIGHT?
▶ No.953923>>955401
i hate you all:
Clear web
>everything listed within a search engine (google and shit)
Deeb web
>everything excluded from a search engine (putting 8ch on the 2 page of google search, yeah, that is a thing)
Dark net
>everything behind seven walls of wizards
▶ No.954300>>955422
>>952986
>Tor is used by and for MOSTLY pedoshit.
Nope. Degenerates mostly can't be bothered with soemthing like installing Tor (let alone configuring it to access CP, which is mostly on the clearnet so you don't need Tor to see it, and largely requires JS so you couldn't see it with a proper Tor configuration anyway).
>statistical fact
Thinking something is true doesn't turn it into a "statistical fact".
>the only use case for not being a cuck with no security is whistleblowing
>nibba
gas yourself
>>952675
Well since you used a meme term like "darkweb" we can't know for sure what you're talking about, but Tor works perfectly fine, especially on websites that aren't broken as fuck and require 50 sequential roundtrips to view a 1 paragraph article. If you want muh 1gbps connection go install chrome on a windows machine and don't bother setting up Tor.
>>952667
oh good point, let's continue to pretend to no nothing about Tor because that's for pedos XD
>all these faggots who post retarded claims about Tor without knowing anything
fuck off. this is a board for people who are competent in da computer
▶ No.955386
>>952665
Hey! Wanna listen to nickelback in my honda civic while we drive to jack in the box? That would be so sick dude.
▶ No.955388
>>953368
No shit? Something that enables anonymity has enabled people who cannot indulge in their fetish safely without anonymity?
Mind=blown
Here's your mindblow in return. Pedophilia is not rape.
▶ No.955419
>>952595 (OP)
OP, for a thrill you should watch Nerve. I think you'll enjoy it's interpretation of "the dark web" and "open source"
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>>955427
old news but thank you
▶ No.955463
>>952675
>wiki
The hidden wiki is a fucking joke, all the links are broken and the site is a cesspool of infighting and general autism. It's only used by summerfag normies who hear about it on le creepypasta youtube channel deep web stories part 44
▶ No.955465>>960643
Tbh it's better that disinfo is out there about the deep web, it creates a barrier that prevents normalfags from accessing it.
▶ No.955466>>955510
Considering the hidden wiki is a dead normalfag infested cesspool we could make our own hidden service wiki. I'd do it but I'm retarded with opsec, if anyone is interested we could get some people together and make it happen
▶ No.955482
>>952677
literally used tor as a kid to bypass parental controls on my parents router, kek
▶ No.955507>>955509
>>955401
>Tesla Experiment Plans
>Broder's Engine Plans
>Paradigm Recalescence
>Geometric Algorthymic Shortcuts
>Nephilism Protocols
>Gadolinium Gallium Garnet Quantum Electronic Processors
>WW2 Experiment Successes
>Josef Mengele Successes
And down the rabbit hole I go.
▶ No.955509
>>955507
How about trying to understand how lightnings work
▶ No.955510
>>955466
>Considering the hidden wiki is a dead normalfag infested cesspool we could make our own hidden service wiki
How is it bad? Also there seems to be two of them.
http://kpvz7ki2lzvnwve7.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
▶ No.955523>>955826 >>960649
What happened to NNTPchan? It seems to have completely disappeared of the face of the interwebs.
▶ No.955608
Lack of users, difficulty of adding nodes would be my guess. It had a couple bad nodes ruin it for everyone last I heard.
▶ No.955826
>>955523
That's too bad, it was a unique concept.
▶ No.960479>>960480 >>960649
>>952595 (OP)
Most people don't know anything about computers or the internet. Your stores about TOR and the kids at school reminds of a two I have
>there was this kid who would walk around the hall and almost never talked to anyone, one day I talk to him and soon he start telling that he is a HACKER and how he goes on the "dark web" all the time and this one time he got an email from the FBI telling him to stop. I ask him some question's like "If you are this hacker that you say you are, what is the function of an IP address?" and more like that until he walks away.
>There where these two kids talking about net neutrality and how it may be gone soon and your isp will bock all sites and you have you will have pay to go to every site you go to them I tell him "If they bock every site can't you get pass it by using something like TOR,I2P,FreeNet or a VPN" he looks confused and the tells me that all that will be illegal so I respond saying "It was not illegal before net neutrality" he ignores me. A few days later I'm talking to him and tell him I use TOR and he says "What if that?"
▶ No.960480>>960483
>>960479
Wow sport, you are so worldly for knowing how an IP address works. Tor too? Wow!
▶ No.960483>>960484 >>960486
>>960480
You obviously missed the point of his story.
▶ No.960484
>>960483
You're obviously too impressed by a teenager on an imageboard. His story is of the garden-variety "normalfags are stupid, lol" variety.
▶ No.960486>>960499
>>960483
I did as well ?
What is the point ?
▶ No.960512>>960515
the funniest part about it all is that to the uninitiated WE are the dark web
▶ No.960515
>>960512
Seeing the image above while reading your post gave me a laugh.
▶ No.960643
>>955465
Didn't hear last news about Tor Project and Mozilla converging? Soon when normies will click "new private window", Firefox will connect to Tor automatically.
This also means more stress on the network and dial-up speeds once again.
▶ No.960649
>>955523
There is one node I know about:
http://oniichanylo2tsi4.onion/
Some i2p boards use it too.
>>960479
If net neutrality gets repealed, any ISP can go full retard and rightfully block all traffic except what they want, then bribe users and Internet services for access permissions. This will include Tor, VPN protocols and i2p because their traffic signatures are not whitelisted or all Internet destinations besides Google are blocked.
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▶ No.961325>>961338 >>964944
>>952863
His specific way of using Tor is compromised: public hidden sites are easy to bust just by listing the top N IPs by traffic and then seeing who correlates best with the timing of page refreshes. It's parallel construction, though not because of covering up eavesdropping but because statistical correlation doesn't meet a proper standard of evidence.
▶ No.961338
>>961325
Did your prepubescent mind come up with that garble? Official documents say that Ross Ulbricht did not isolate his web server completely in Tor. FBI scanned internet for his captcha page which was served by third party in turn IIRC on http port and voila, this is how they got his server IP. What happened next is they contacted the local police in Iceland where data center is located and asked for IP addresses ever connected to that server. Turned out, dumb nigger used a fucking V P N service to connect to his own very secret darkweb server. Not Tor, a VPN service from some CIAnigger company. The rest of this case is pretty self-explanatory.
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▶ No.964636
>>952595 (OP)
That's a lot of text that you typed just to say "LMAO I know how tor works, sekrit Klub amirite? XD"
▶ No.964944
>>961325
>seeing who correlates best with the timing of page refreshes
thats not how it works skiddo
>statistical correlation doesn't meet a proper standard of evidence.
thats not how it works skiddo
>It's parallel construction
thats not how it works skiddo