/tech/ - Technology★

>how Arch is 'simple' again

It's not, cuz systemd.

Install void linux. Much more lightweight than arch bloatware and doesn't lack something as simple as an installer gui, nor does it have memed.

>>>/g/

>>944938 (OP)

The """Simple""" part means that it's supposed to follow the UNIX(R) Way(TM) and ship packages without unwanted modifications and dependencies. Arch installers (except LARBS) and all spin-off distros, like Manjaro, are total AIDS cancer.

TL;DR

Install Gentoo. It's much more Simple and Lightweight (and Sane!!) than Arch

>>944948

I agree that Debian is a good distro, but Ubumtoo is a shitty botnet.

>Release upgrades break your system

>Repositories aren't managed very well

>Retarded names for repositories

>Not all packages are maintained properly (only the ones that Conditional cares about get attention)

>Installs a lot of unnecessary (and unwanted) bloat

>>944938 (OP)

If you want something that's elegant (to use) try NixOS. It's a declarative OS that doesn't waste your time and doesn't result in a total mess of an installation.

>inb4 systemd

GuixSD

>>944938 (OP)

>Installation needs me to manually set up files to configure keyboard layout, locale, timezone, hostname, filesystem table as well as installing the base system and format the disk to begin with instead of using an installer to do this for me in under 3 minutes.

Boo hoo. Arch installation is dead easy if you can read the wiki page with the installation instructions, and you have the option to customize anything you like. For example, I'm not aware of any Linux installer that lets you set up cryptsetup/LUKS with custom choices for algorithm and key size. But when installing Arch, you can choose any custom options you like for your FDE setup.

>>944964

>Arch installation is dead easy

Never said it wasn't easy. It's all about lost time (and making mistakes, which everyone does, that's why you automate it.)

0/10 for reading comprehension

TempleOS

>>944943

The big thing Void's installer lacks is support for setting up encrypted filesystems, but you're right otherwise. It really is like a saner Arch.

>>944964

>cryptsetup/LUKS with custom choices for algorithm and key size

I heard using AES/Twofish/Kuznyechik encryption algorithms exposes the system to rubberhose cryptanalysis. The rule of thumb is to keep the data out of your system if it can get you killed.

>>944938 (OP)

>durrr why is this software lacking bloat, it's totally bloat ware guys, just look at all this lack of bloat! Why can't they just add bloat so it's not bloat ware anymore?

>>944948

>need a desktop gnu/linux?

<Install Gentoo

>need a server gnu/linux?

<Install Gentoo

I fixed that for you.

>>944955

> GuixSD

Is that production-ready, or is it just a meme/academic exercise?

>>944989

I am not >>944955 but the answer is No.

>>944948

>poobuntu

>debian

You meant Devuan, right? The pretty much only equivalent to both.

Otherwise use gentoo, unironically. It's way ahead of any other distro in terms of comfort.

>>945006

Devuan is a meme distro by people who don't realize sysvinit is still fully supported by Debian.

>gentoo

>unironically

>>945047

>devuan

>muh sysvinit is supported by debian/systmed is not botnet and it doesnt show in software that's not part of systemdick-project

>gentoo

>unironically

<unironically thinks gentoo is shit and systmed is not on it's way linux/systemd/*

Who paid you?

>wahhhhh its hard

Arch isn't made for niggers like you. Go install Ubuntu.

arch is a meme, faggot

is a shitload of bugs and incompatibilities. only bainlets+manlets wannabes and half-educated niggers use it.

>>945047

Gentoo, dead seriously.

>>944938 (OP)

Arch users think they are are 1337 h4x0r5 because they have to choose how to partition their drives and then modify some config files.

>Arch teaches you Unix really works

They are plebs who need a wiki because they're too lazy to read manpages and need copypasta to get their systems working.

At least, that is what I discovered from every Arch user I've ever met. They are actually afraid of Gentoo.

>Why the fuck is Linux such bloatware now a days?

Newfags. Once the oldtimers die out free software will be pure garbage.

>>944973

>I'm retarded please rape my gay mouth suck suck

Do you realize your door can be lockpicked or bruteforced in a matter of seconds? Better leave it unlocked from now on.

>>945002

>>944989

I use it daily and would say yes, but ymmv

>>945089

How do you expect to run a real server on a rolling distro?

>>945124

Look at yourself my gay. Why are you such a self-hating gay?

>>944938 (OP)

It's 'simple' for the developers. After all, if you cared about user experience you wouldn't be using Arch in the first place.

>>945090

This.

And the wiki is shit.

>>944938 (OP)

>systemd

Debian (((Code of Conduct)))

What distro would you install in the computer of someone not /tech/?. I was thinking of Solus and it looks great but maybe there's another good option I'm missing.

>Ubuntu

no

>>945421

windows 10 home

>>944952

>without unwanted modifications and dependencies

SYSTEMD

>>944952

>without unwanted modifications and dependencies

PULSEAUDIO

>>944952

>without unwanted modifications and dependencies

UDEV

>>944952

>without unwanted modifications and dependencies

DBUS

>>945441 (You)

>>945442 (You)

>>945443 (You)

>>945445 (You)

That's how they are upstream. They don't modify packages and add those dependencies.

>>945450

They don't, instead they are taking a really long cock pushing out the "lightweight, flexible, kiss" trademark which they themselves created.

also

>The end of i686 support

>>944952

>install gentoo

Funtoo