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>>938553 (OP)

It isn't a theory.

They have press releases on these things.

Did you just slide in here from facebook and don't have a clue.

Current iteration is called Prism.

They don't need to sit there monitoring all day every day, it just feeds through their data centre, right from the internet backbones. Checks for keywords, standard patterns, it isn't hard to do.

Everything is logged, that's even in the laws. None of it is secret, you must be absolutely clueless. Housewife or young teenage girl?

Any resources on how they deal with ssl, gpg, or the like. I find that interesting from a purely cryptographical standpoint. I can't think of any way you could mass collect that sort of stuff without using hardware backdoors to go around it.

>Not synthesizing your own hardware

>>938559

They don't hence the quantum stuff.

>>938553 (OP)

>>938553 (OP)

>why'd you leave the keys up on the table ==you wanted to==

>here you go, make up another fable ==you wanted to==

It’s called the Talpiot Program or Operation Talpiot. Now, may I please have my forskin back?

I was denied secret clearance based on my posting history here so yes sweetie, everything is botnet

>>938553 (OP)

That is a big part of why they are currently failing. They collect so much data they have no way to sort through it for the valuables. That is where Big Data and AI will be put to use.

>>938559

Anything they can't crack easily gets archived until they can. For most people this doesn't matter because statue of limitation laws are up before that.

>>938605

Bareback? Or did they just look through your browser history?

>>938569

>I don't think you trust

>In my self-righteous suicide

>I cry when angels deserve to ==die==

>>938641

>Bareback

No I use foreign non-logging VPNs, proxychains, and tor not sure how they found out I posted here but because ISIS once had a board here you're disqualified for governmental work unless you're 1 in a 100 million and they need your skills that badly

>>938559

of course they "mass collect" encrypted data retard they collect everything. the question is whether they have the capabilities to break it later on-or now-if you are dumb enough to buy the quantum breakage scare. those who do follow this field of research know the answer is most certainly they do not (yet) although there are whispers of functioning quantum entanglement data xfer protocols. standard computing even super/HPC cannot break strong encryption. period.

>>938673

I'd have an easier time thinking they got a trojan on your computer somehow than breaking all that. Makes me want to apply for a job to see what they say.

>>938719

Ok faggot. Take apart an modern automatic transmission from a 2017 Ford with no manual whatsoever.

>>938553 (OP)

3PLA MOSSAD MI(numbers)

>>938673

You probably left out the most important part about DNS logs. You should change the DNS in the WAN DHCP/Static (in the WAN setting) not in the LAN (router local or localhost)

It could also be that your ISP uses a fake gateway so you can't fucking change your DNS..

>>938689

E-waste is ignored thanks to (((UN))).

Also the massive spyware programmes are made so they can ID the cattle goyim. You know, they're even forcing these new self-administered 'implant-based' telemetry for medical devices now.

They're clearly grooming the goyims for the iCattle ID implant.

>>938556

>>938679

Again, you guys keep saying modern CPUs have backdoors and shit. It should be trivial for them to go into any computer and steal data, yet they don't. They rely on forcing people to give their passwords for encrypted drives, zero-day exploits and social engineering.

>>939264

I'll explain it to you faggot, in a court case you have to reveal how you obtained evidence because illegally obtained evidence is not admissible so using the backdoor as evidence in court would not be allowed and lets say they gain a warrant to use the backdoor there would be public outcry because of the CPU backdoor so what do they use the backdoor for? The backdoor is used to gain intel and thats it and if it is required (((they))) will deploy conventional method of surveillance to catch you. In a country of 300million people is hard to spy on each single person with conventional methods so they use the backdoors to find out who to spy on but keeping your harddrive encrypted and using a more secure OS (libre linux over windows) will make sure you dont get butfucked in court but it wont guarantee Israel wont have your data although I'm yet to see evidence that CPU backdoors are being used but that is because of the original point (((they))) dont want you to know.

>>939089

>>939145

You're both faggots I can take anything apart it's getting it back together again still working that's impossible.

>>939264

> It should be trivial for them to go into any computer and steal data, yet they don't.

You are too clueless to be posting on this board. Go read up on Snowden leaks, OPSEC, and plausible deniability.

>>939275

>>/pol/ posters writes like a 5 year old, without any punctuation

>namefag

>/pol/

>thinks a retard deserves punctuation in a reply

You shouldn't be posting here either namefag.

>>939267

I would have told the dumbfuck to RTFM. You're too kind anon.

>>938673

ISIS had a board here?

>>939147

You don't already have an electronic chip in your ID card? We in Yurop have, and I think it's the only choice now, so when I'll (I won't) renew my state brand, I can't take the one without electronic bullshit.

>>938553 (OP)

it's known that phones are littered with some of the worst software/firmware you fuck. if you think you can deal drugs on social media and not get caught, you're fucking retarded

>>939310

Yes it is called >>>/cia/ since the cia is the same thing as ISIS.

>>939267

>>939280

You do know that Wikileaks released to the public a bunch of tools and exploits that the security agencies use to obtain data, right? Those tools would be unnecessary if they could literally push a button and gain access to the PC, smartphone and WiFi network of pedophile number 65 in their list, and that data would also be illegal and inadmissible in court.

>>939398

The fire rises

>>938553 (OP)

So the neural network botnet learned how to post on /tech/, huh?

>>939144

not used for that. it would be deployed in black budget space & military programs to allow high command to circumvent conventional communication networks within a project that are operated by regular engineers or potentially viewable/interceptable by the public. rumored to have been used in some of the mars missions.

it's just about low-hanging fruit.

don't run windows.

don't run unsolicited javascript.

you're untouchable unless you're specifically targeted.

and if they want you, they get you.

it's simple.

>>939264

Most targets are not high value enough to warrant state-level intervention, which as >>939267 pointed out, would end up being counterproductive to their goal of full spectrum surveillance. Or, there is some (((reason))) why they don't step in, so for most criminals and even some high level terrorists, these backdoors are never utilized you may recall the manufactured MSM circus over the FBI's muscling of Tim Cook to supply a backdoor to the San Bernardino shooter's iphone Also, there are zero days, and then there are backdoors that haven't been scandalized to the public yet. Guess what category most zero days end up falling into. Actual zero days end up taking an astonishing amount of man hours and expertise to construct and/or uncover, which of course means state-level resources (see stuxnet and the iranian nuclear program), and really just end up being fully offensive campaigns comprised of a collection of exploits and techniques rather than one magical ring-3 vector.

>>940210

If you want to protect yourself and use mainstream software and get 0day'd you only have yourself to blame. Again, I'll say it's about low-hanging fruit. If they want you they'll get you no matter what. This isn't about a slippery slope. You are in control about how much you give them (at least if you're on 8ch/tech it's a given that you are paranoid/mentally ill enough to understand the value/cost ratio.)

>>940210

As soon as a zero-day exploit gets to the public then it's not a zero-day exploit, just an exploit.

And that is my whole point. It makes no sense for them to waste man-hours reasearching programs and operating systems for security bugs and developing tools to exploit them; if they could just hit a button and make IME broadcast the target's location, connect to a wireless connection, write spyware to the RAM and send the unencrypted contents of the HDD anywhere, regardless of the user's operating system or hardware. The same thing is theoretically possible with phones since the modem firmware is always proprietary.

Of course there is surveillance. Of course they gather data illegally of both citizens and non-citizens of the US, both in the US and Europe; but I find hard to believe they can literally control any hardware remotely and access any database they want to.

>>940210

>>940222

(You) (Need to chill out)

>>940222

It's a separate processor that's always active (provided there is a source of power connected), runs a MINIX3 fork, has the highest privilege levels (well above your OS), and is designed for remote administration. What's so hard to believe that cianiggers can use it to access any modern Intel system? If legit sysadmins are using it to manage their infrastructure, what's to stop people with top-secret clearances who have access to all the relevant Intel details from doing the same? The fact that you're not on their radar doesn't mean your hardware isn't already compromised out of the factory. It also doesn't mean that police and FBI have access to the same details, so they have to rely on Windows 10 spying or use exploits like regular plebs. And even the cianiggers can't do much about systems that don't have Intel ME, but exploits will still work.

>>940222

You have a childish conception about how these exploits work and what they are used for. Go back to lurking.

You forgot jews from intel holding all the good toys for themselves, and you get 10% increase in performance.

>>938605

That'd be really spooky if it were true that they ever told you why you were denied clearance.