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this.

>Get a local dev job.

lol even 8 years ago lots of local jobs here were hipster startup bullshit

>>934390

They've evened out alot now. Its more like an office job.

Not bad advice. I'll add

>buy land ASAP

>have multiple things on the side for income; sell yoir own work, farm/garden, invest if that's your thing.

>avoid debt, if you can't pay cash do not "buy" it. There is no such thing as "good debt" it's a kike lie.

>live within your means, avoid having multiple expensive habits/hobbies

>money and stuff isn't everything, every dying I spoke with always said they regretted working so much and not traveling more in their youth. Take time for yourself

>>934423

>Traveling

What a faggot. People who have to travel every where are pure cancer. They're people who lack roots and culture so they turn every where else into a tourist trap. Local people seeing local area is good but fuck anything beyond that. Those types of people are cunts.

>>934392

There will always be people with a get quick rich scam. This is just the modern version because of what OP described. The people in charge of the cash have no idea what they're doing so every 2 bit promise is invested on so no one misses the boat on the next big thing. With sites like Fark > Digg > Reddit happening where one disappears and another becomes huge over night randomly everythings worth betting on until you run out of imaginary money from the stock market.

>>934423

>>934387 (OP)

I'll add

>don't ever labour for free with open source projects, that's a solid way to burn yourself up without gaining a dime and signaling to potential employers that you will do things that benefit them for free even if not hired

>when sizing small-mid-sized potential company to join, spy very carefully what kind of people are working there via LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook to dodge current year poz hellholes

>aim for long careers at large corporations but don't ever hesitate to jump ship if promises to you are broken

>don't ever jump ship if next job is not completely secure deal

>only accept the amount cold hard cash and other benefits given as signs of your value to company, everything else is lip service

>>934387 (OP)

That company CEO you described must be a scammer. This is typical of shitcoin scams with talentless, easily fooled, or even non-existent employees.

>>934523

>y-yes-ss goyim, slave off for corporation and write more proprietary software

>>934818

>muh dik

>Here is a 1 billion dollars for your startup

>>934490

Fuck off faggot I am quoting hard working men that sacrificed everything for family. People that did travel a great deal solely for work. They all say the same things.

>wish I would have worked less

>wish I would have seen x and y

>wish I would have taken more time for myself and family

>I basically worked all my life for money I tried to trade for my health

The only people that "travel" in the faggot sense are trust fund fags

>>934827

No, he's right, anon. I don't know the fuck why, but normalfags always travel a lot. Funnily, they never travel to other European countries, only brown/yellow countries probably to increase their cosmopolitan power level.

You have to see the face of a coworker when they ask where you go during your vacations, and you tell them that you won't go anywhere.

>>934387 (OP)

Don't forget IoT, or is that meme falling out?

>>934841

Yeah, their process is

>Pays thousands of dollars to visit sunny third world country X

>Never leave their resort

>We did X!

Find any boomer, and they'll tell you the year they "Did Europe".

>>934423

>>buy land ASAP

This is honestly one of the best things you can possibly do. I make serious passive income just renting out property I own, and at any time I can convert them into actual money if I need or want to. I can also trade for other property. The only real downside is the extremely high up front investment. The only way you can do this is after you've already made lots of money or if your family has assets to begin with.

Obviously don't get into debt. Either buy the whole thing upfront or don't buy it.

>>935316

>IoT has gone the way of the 3D printer

Am I EVER going to be able to download 40k minis off the deeptubes onto my table?

>>935047

>Either buy the whole thing upfront or don't buy it.

Or use the banks to your advantage by sacrificing a bit of profit for very little risk. It is too bad those sweet sweet subprime lending rates are harder to come by though.

>>935316

What happenend to 3D printers?

>>934387 (OP)

Why don't you make OP even longer you faggot?

>>935498

3D printable firearms scared the bootlicking faggots that love being slaves.

>>935316

I am glad the wearable tech meme has nearly died. Even though "smart watches" are still around, the really shitty products like Google Glass are well and truly dead. Remember 3D TV? Another crappy product that was hyped beyond belief, yet demanded by no one.

Unironically great thread, thank you OP

>>935316

Well IoT is basically botnet nor normalfags, which is futuristic.

3D printer became a new hobbyist community for fun, so meh.

Cryptocurrency can still be used for crime, so it still stands, smart contracts are fucked.

Deep Learning is already used by Googs and Fagbook, so >>>/machinecult/

I just want money. I have a job at a big company and I do literally nothing. Show up for work once a week and pretend I'm doing shit. How long can this last for?

>>935930

>Until you leave your comfort zone and take on a high risk venture.

>You hang around learning to become a corporate climber.

>You are exceptional at what you do, and thus can demand your big corporation shell out handsomely to retain you.

>KYS until you spawn as a richfag (repeat as necessary)

>>934523

>muh open source is labor meme

>muh open source is communism meme

>etc

>>>/pol/

this shit isn't even relevant to /tech/. it doesn't even make any sense. it's like saying you are getting scammed for having hobbies instead of spending all your time working / spending the money you earned at some shitty restaurant

>>935940

>I'm an open source plumber

>I do it for free

>I plumb for the love of the craft, not for money

>Plumbing's been my hobby since grade school

>All my plumbing tools are of my own design

>Looking to volunteer on your toughest plumbing tasks

>>935943

okay

That doesn't mean that another open source plumber could charge people for his work.

>>935940

Are you that polish communist kid who can't read? Your greentext is completely wrong.

>>935945

You can't realistically charge for open source software unless you set the price equal to the total amount of units you expect to sell (difficult to estimate), forcing your customers to enter into weird cooperative purchases.

>>935985

Clarification, make that FOSS software.

>>935940

>>>/leftypol/

We need a NatSoc software license based on GPL

>>935985

You can charge for your development though just as what a plumber would do for his service or a mechanic for his.

>>935985

Set the expected unit quantity to 1 and charge the amount it costs to develop that 1.

>>936130

Please guys, gather your friends and buy my $100,000 video game!

>>936156

That is exactly the logical outcome. If it costs $100000, then the price to pay should be $100000. I have a protip: it's perfectly all right to reuse free software as part of your own software. If there are libraries that already serve some of the needed functions, you can greatly reduce the cost of development.

>>936156

That's how crowd funding works. And it works perfectly fine for video games.

>>935985

The dominant revenue model for open source, Red Hat for instance, is selling support for a "free" "product". You know, the old IBM business model from the 1960s.

Open source literally has a built-in incentive to make everything as opaque and user-hostile as possible.

>>936175

>And it works perfectly fine for video games.

lol

>>936175

That's absolutely asinine, and it doesn't WORK for most software products, because otherwise it would be the most common model. It results in a high risk of no one playing your game at all, and missing out on millions in revenue if your game becomes the next best thing (which you cannot always anticipate). Why shouldn't you be rewarded for creating something a vast number of people clearly want?

Try applying your commie logic to other areas in life, and see how ridiculous it actually is.

>>936167

Horrible concept. When a customer is willing to part with their money for a product, you want to make that transaction occur as quickly as possible. Telling them to leave and join a cooperative is laughably stupid, and you will never see that person again.

Too many people here are getting economics lessons from Richard Stallman's blog page. In reality, if you're selling software to home users, your customer is going to be a normie that does not care about freedom, they want it to work, and want you to fix it if it doesn't.

If you're selling to high-end software to a very small number of engineering firms, you charge a premium to recoup your development costs, and you keep the source close to yourself, lest some enterprising Jew decide to run your out of the market. For instance, there would be no incentive for a company like WindRiver to release a FOSS VxWorks.

>>936233

>>936309

There have been dozens and dozens of successfully crowdfunded video games. And then there are early-access projects which fund their development by selling access to test builds. You can dislike the concept as much as you want, but it is being used and it works.

>>936349

And how many of these crowdfunded games are GPL?

>>936349

Just like star citizen right?

>make engine GPL

>make assets purchasable

>???

>literally profit

Why don't game companies go the OMW route? You can still profit by selling the built game with the assets, while having the game source code free (assets aren't required to be free/libre).

>>936430

Do you want to program for free? No one is stopping you.

>>936433

You still need to program the game code, and the assets can pay for the engine. It's win/win.

>>936438

You got it backwards. The programmers can get paid for their hard work and the artists can not get paid for their hard work. That's a win-win.

>>936318

It's the same concept that all of humanity has used ever since the birth of money. People don't care about freedom because because people are trained to think like this. This trained behavior comes from the owners of proprietary software. This way works for everything else in business. It is your own prejudices that stop yourself from accepting it.

If you're selling high end software, then sell it for the full price. When you've made your sale, you've already made your profit. At that point, you start your work finding a new customer to write their new $100000 project.

>>936413

>>936406

Did you know that the patron model of financing works of art has existed for millennia? This "crowdfunding" is a modern continuation of an ancient practice.

>>936510

Yeah, Patrons produced work for private citizens, like Medici bankers, it wasn't owned for the people. In any case, the question was concerning crowdsourced GPL games, know of any?

>>936495

>It is your own prejudices that stop yourself from accepting it.

Me, and pretty much everyone else who enjoys making money from the software they create. Best of luck to you on your GPL route. Let /tech/ know when you make something great, I'll help distribute it freely for you.

>>936524

I'm on crack, that should be:

Patrons commissioned work for themselves, for their private benefit. The artist received credit and got to enjoy practising their craft. The artist also did non receive any distribution rights, that went to the Patron. I'm not sure why you think your analogy applies here.

>>936526

This type of economy still exists today. When someone pays a company to build a house, they benefit from the house for themselves. It happens everywhere, not just in art. We call it "contract labor".

>>936530

I don't dispute that. We're talking about FOSS software here though. Specifically that which is imbued with a GPL type right to redistribute. It'd be odd if the builder got to choose how long you lived in the home.

>>936531

Usually with contract labor, the end product is relinquished to the holder of the contract. Why would someone write out and pay for a contract that limited their use of a product?

>>936539

I know right, but if you talk to the GPLtards (and I do like GPL, to a limited extent), they believe all the person purchasing the labour should relinquish the rights of redistribution. To be clear, their own "use" isn't limited (their rights to decide how it is used by others is).

>>936540

If someone contracts work on a product, the person buying the contract receives all rights to the product. Do you agree with this?

>>936544

They ought to, and they ought to control the redistribution rights. Would you not agree with that?

>>936525

I have no problem selling GPL software. My secret is to sell the software for the cost of producing the software and then add a profit margin on top. My starting price for any of my titles start at $30000.

>>936440

My god, you're fucking retarded. If you sell a game at retail price that somewhat satisfies (cost of dev) = (expected sales) x (retail price), then both the artists and the devs get paid.

>>936591

(of course, you add profit there too)

>>936584

Could you even maintain a straight face as you type that?

>>936606

Of course I can. It's called selling your time as a programmer. I sell GPL software because I sell my time as a programmer.

>>934490

>People who have to travel every where are pure cancer. They're people who lack roots and culture

Bingo. Muh travel and muh global cattl- I mean citizen people are cancer.

Its no wonder why young people are getting tattoos and piercings. Its because they lack an identity and are trying to feign one.

>>936510

That doesn't change the fact that most of crowdfunded videogames get abandoned halfway through or """released""" with less than a third of the promised features.