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 No.933823>>933824 >>933849 >>933883 >>933886 >>935804 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

I've began a list of who are the adversaries we face in technology for freedom of use of our computers and freedom of speech for communities.

Freedom of use of our computers and electronics who uses computers.

Gorverment:

I won't do them all because it's enormous so I'll do the fives eyes in this case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

Canada:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies#Canada

UsA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community

UK:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_intelligence_agencies

Australia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Intelligence_Community

New Zealand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_intelligence_agencies

Other than these see this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies

Globally all cellphones in general:

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/12/remotely_eavesd_1.html

Hardware manufacturers and assemblers:

Nvidia

TLK

https://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/webcrypto-next-workshop/papers/webcrypto2014_submission_25.pdf

BSD license used.

AMD-GPU

Requires proprietary blobs to work:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-FW-UVD-VCE-VCN-Update

>Intel

ME

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

BSD licensed Minix3 used.

TXT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Execution_Technology

SGX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Guard_Extensions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_execution_environment

>AMD

PSP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processor

Secure Execution Environment

http://www.openvirtualization.org/open-source-arm-trustzone.html#TrustZone-6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_execution_environment

>Allwiner

Violating the GPL

https://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations

TrustZone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#Security_extensions

>Qualcomm

QSEE

https://bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/04/exploring-qualcomms-secure-execution.html

https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-14/materials/us-14-Rosenberg-Reflections-on-Trusting-TrustZone.pdf

>Cisco

Collaborates with secrets services by installing/enabling backdoors.

https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/internet-privacy/snowden--the-nsa-planted-backdoors-in-cisco-products.html

>LENOVO

BIOS spywware:

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2984889/windows-pcs/lenovo-collects-usage-data-on-thinkpad-thinkcentre-and-thinkstation-pcs.html

>HP

backdoors

https://www.infoworld.com/article/2611419/data-security/hp-admits-to-undocumented-backdoors-in-two-separate-storage-lines.html

Keylogers

www.bbc.com/news/technology-42309371

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/keylogger-found-in-audio-driver-of-hp-laptops/

>Dell

Backdoors

https://www.zdnet.com/article/hidden-backdoor-account-found-in-dell-network-security-software/

>Huawey

Communist spying

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/chinese-company-installed-secret-backdoor-on-hundreds-of-thousands-of-phones/

>Samsung

Backdoors

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/replicant-developers-find-and-close-samsung-galaxy-backdoor

>D-Link

Backdoors

https://www.itworld.com/article/2705284/data-protection/backdoor-found-in-d-link-router-firmware-code.html

>TPLINK

Backdoors

https://sekurak.pl/tp-link-httptftp-backdoor/

>TESLA

Backdoors

https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/09/tesla-flips-a-switch-to-increase-the-range-of-some-cars-in-florida-to-help-people-evacuate

>Lovense

Spying

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/10/16634442/lovense-sex-toy-spy-surveillance

>SONY

Service: TV

Backdoor/spying

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16727319

 No.933824>>933846


 No.933846>>934357

>>933824

>As for free speech communities what do we have ?

<we

Explain what you mean by "free speech".


 No.933849>>933866 >>934358 >>935860

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>>933823 (OP)

>BSD license used.

GNUtards are the real adversaries


 No.933866>>934395 >>934559

>>933849

If you paid attention to the FSF's license guidelines, or, say, GNU itself, you would know the FSF has nothing against permissive licenses. Intentional abuse of an inappropriate license, on the other hand, such as a permissive license for a large, end-user-facing codebase, is just as abusive as distributing data with no license.

However, I will say this: take for example CopperheadOS, released under creative commons. Technically it's open sauce, and by extension free software, but it isn't libre. A license like that makes people disinclined to do anything with that software, including its original author, who gave over the copyrights to Copperhead for some Godawful reason when all reasonable ends to collaboratively editing the software could have been encompassed by a free license is an example of this abuse. In this case--and the case of many other seemingly copycenter projects–it's not a glamorous choice to use a more permissive license in a competitive ecosystem, where you can at least have the means to explicitly define what your collaborators can do to your work, even if you have low self-esteem/are desperate and can't stand up for yourself and tell them exactly what you want from them via the GPL.

It's so disingenuous when open source pretends like they're free software knowing fully well that they're lobotomizing themselves just to please their employers. There's a whole generation of engineers who simply can't advocate for libre software because of the technical limitations of open source logic.


 No.933883

>>933823 (OP)

>>Lenovo

>>Huawei

More like all chink companies

Next time include all kike-owned tech companies


 No.933886

>>933823 (OP)

>cuckflare

>google

>facebook

>twitter

>SF Bay Area hax0rs


 No.934357

>>933846

>Explain what you mean by "free speech".

No legal/governmental actions to stop or censor what someone says.


 No.934358>>934359 >>934395

>>933849

There is a difference between a observation and a causation, you are accusing OP that he said that the BSD license is bad while there is no such line.

In my opinion it's getting redundant that permissive licenses are often used by corporations to have control of other peoples computer without consciousness from the supposed owners of these functions.


 No.934359

>>934358

>causation


 No.934395

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>>933866

>>934358

>GPLtards in my thread

u have to go


 No.934539

Everyone that glows


 No.934559>>934814


 No.934610>>934814 >>935492

Pottering

FBI/CIA/NSA/etc.

Disney,MPAA,RIAA,etc.

My Dad

EU Article 13

FCC

ISPs

Anyone with an encrypted Wi-Fi AP

Car manufacturers

LexisNexus

Advertisers

Metallica


 No.934814>>934816 >>935492

>>934559

A comment on that thread suggests that glow-in-the-darks were possibly involved.

>>934610

>Metallica

They're irrelevant since the early/mid-90's.


 No.934816>>935489

>>934814

>They're irrelevant since the early/mid-90's.

They killed Napster in the early 00s.


 No.935489>>935559


 No.935492

>>934610

>Pottering

That's community or personality section.

>FBI/CIA/NSA/etc.

>Disney,MPAA,RIAA,etc.

>EU Article 13

Isn't article 11 or 3 a problem too ?

>FCC

>Advertisers

These should be classified has "legal" adversaries.

>Car manufacturers

Hardware

>ISPs

Both hardware and legal.

>>934814

>A comment on that thread suggests that glow-in-the-darks were possibly involved.

Which one ?


 No.935559

>>935489

lawsuit.


 No.935561

Redditards and faceberg users. I also blame web technologies for inviting too many low skilled programmers into the field, so we end up playing to the lowest common denominator. For proof of this, you only need to see how popular Atom is.


 No.935804

>>933823 (OP)

<tech review websites

>written by Markoff Chains

>review about A concludes "A is pretty good"

>review about B concludes "A is bad, B is better"

>on any type of technology that has existed for 120 years so it's not like B was just so good that A suddenly looked bad. also this happens on every review on said website

>writers are not even qualified to write about the technology they are reviewing. use faulty stats and testing methods

>entire purpose of website is to get ad revenue and have you click their affiliate links. therefore the only bad review they'll give is, "this product was slightly less than what we expected, but was still very good"

<media websites (music news, game news, tech news, movie news, etc)

>written by Markoff Chains

>entire purpose of site is so guy can make a living from his retarded website, as opposed to providing any useful information

>why would you even visit these

<recipe websites

>entire purpose of website is to get ad revenue and have you click their affiliate links (for ingredients and tools)

>post the same 5 recipes every century and pretends they're new

AND

This is why the "ad blocking debate" (normalfag talking point #5617256172658) _does not fucking matter_. There are almost no websites that even deserve to exist. Most of the good stuff has no ads in the first place or was only done as a hobby. If you're able to make a living from your website, chances are it's such consumer garbage, that it's absolutely useless. Basically the only good stuff you can get for free is hobby stuff, which usually has some user friendly pages with little-to-no CSS or JS, or academic literature, which is sponsored and doesn't need ads (and ads wouldn't provide enough money for the equipment/manpower anyway).


 No.935813>>937622

The design of shitty fucking tech news sites like Toms Hardware.

>run by paranoid neckbeard "sysadmin" DRM-in-the-throat faggot

>blocks "bad" IP addresses and has been doing so since early 2000's (for example once in a while a Tor exit node will be blocked so you'll have to change nodes, and my home IP was blocked before too for some reason)

>blocks archive.org

>blank space in the middle of the article because you didn't enable JS to see 5 words written in a tweet

>blank space in the middle of the article for "An error occurred. Try watching this video on www.youtube.com, or enable JavaScript if it is disabled in your browser.", but at least you can copy the link into youtube-dl

>saving pages in the browser fails for some reason (not sure if intentional; can be worked around with archive.is and the download zip feature)

>requires JS to view content such as some images and tables

>click tiny "next" button 26 times to read the entire article, not that you'd read anything other than the opening paragraph and 5 comments before closing the page anyway

now look in contrast look at Anandtech (also have no idea what they talk about, but much less harmful web design)

>"print view" to see entire article on one page

>all comments button to see all comments on one page

>still probably has jewtube and twitter shit though


 No.935857>>935859

>litterally one company mentioned in china


 No.935859>>935862

>>935857

>litterally one company mentioned in china

>communist spying

>the rest are companies in capitalist nations

>not capitalist spying

Nice attempt at obscurity department of homeland security.


 No.935860

>>933849

Damn right son.


 No.935862>>935881

>>935859

With China its guaranteed, with USA companies there is at least a (even now) history of corporations not cooperating with the government.


 No.935881>>935889

>>935862

Every one knew in the communism era that the Прадва was wrong; what makes the USA worste than communism is that americans believed WSJ and others well telling the truth.

You're in the eye of the tornado yet you don't see it.


 No.935889>>936579

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>>935881

>what makes the USA worste than communism is that americans believed WSJ and others well telling the truth

>You're in the eye of the tornado yet you don't see it.

Lol anon Americans hate the media and think they are all liars. Have you never actually talked to an American?


 No.936579>>936580 >>936581 >>936670

>>935889

Edgy autists aren't representative of the entire population.


 No.936580>>936678

>>936579

>Edgy autists aren't representative of the entire population.

You have never talked to a normie have you? American approval for media is at an all time low.


 No.936581>>936678

>>936579

Mainstream news being a joke has been a thing for decades. Stop being retarded anon and stop doubling down on being wrong


 No.936670>>936678

>>936579

You have to talk to people outside the big cities. But even in cities, not everyone is identical, and you'll find NRA members with nice gun collection who despise the media. I even met a tow truck operator who had so little trust in the bankers that he only invested in gold and cows. There's lots of different people in the US.


 No.936678

>>936580

Approval is low but the dumbfucks keep watching.

>>936581

They're not in on the joke.

>>936670

I never said they were impossible to find.


 No.937212>>937214 >>937396

Everybody is an adversary, except the GPL.

Note that I am in no way a communist, or remotely a leftist, but I have swallowed the Stallman redpill because I recognize Stallman is a student of history, he took a shitload of it at Harvard and realized it always repeats itself and they will absolutely do whatever they can to create dumb terminals that deny us any kind of freedom and spy on everything we do regardless of the regime in charge left or right wing.

The tide turned recently with webAssembly, imagine a world without app stores or desktop apps. You can just push a proprietary binary through the browser and all your computation is done remotely through the """cloud''' meaning spying. There is some interesting shit going on right now with PeerTube, and even the Hurd, you can combine NetBSD rumpkernels with the Hurd to run on hardware and use their drivers. It's less ideological than regular GNU projects but I understand why they are ideological, holy fuck is the future frightening and Stallman saw it all back in the 1980s.


 No.937214>>937217

>>937212

>is done remotely through the """cloud''' meaning spying

Daily reminder that the GPL3 has nothing to do with server side programs and protects you in no way.


 No.937217>>937223 >>937396

>>937214

> and protects you in no way.

Yes the GPLv3 doesn't protect for SERVER side programs (except when the server is located on your own computer). The AGPLv3 covers that specific problem.

Note that the GPLv3 covers DRM and tivoization problems.


 No.937223

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>>937217

Only thing the GPL protects against is good software ever being written.


 No.937396

>>937217

The AGPL doesn't cover spying at all.

>>937212

Didn't Stallman go to the MIT though?


 No.937486>>937488

Throw the jews down the well.

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>>937486

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# breitbart

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 No.937489>>937490

>>937488

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 No.937490>>937512

>>937489

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 No.937510

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 No.937512>>937538

>>937490

You do realise that ISP's can just redirect IPV4 adressess to another website via ICAAN IP reassignment, right? For example if I were the NSA or (((ICAAN))) and I wanted to MITM cuckchan without being noticed I could ask all ISP's I control to redirect all it's IP's to one the NSA controls. From there I use my government controlled SSL provider that browsers trust by default, verisign and globalsign, to passively MITM traffic without any being the wiser unless someone not under my control points out the IP's are different. But if someone did that I would just shill against them being stupid and falsely accuse them of idiocy for noticing the wiles of such action. Like trying to kill them such as snowden or making false claims like it is the ISP's fault such a thing happened. Listing the IPV4 ranges is not as useful as listing all their SSL certificate hashes and what to avoid, such as verasign and globalsign certificates.


 No.937538>>937544

>>937512

That list is about improving the internet experience by removing MSM content, Israeili CDN's, other advertising and a couple scurilous sites. I've add a few sites like this one to a hosts file. My goal isn't to avoid the NSA, at all. Sure, my ISP could still conceivably redirect or inject traffic to or from other addresses but I don't use their DNS and treat the DSL modem as a hostile device. I haven't seen any evidence of them doing that and don't believe it would be transparent. Even if they would do it, and I can't at the moment imagine why they would considering some of the pitfalls, as it would require altering the routing tables of a number of routers, and well designed endpoints; I believe it would be noticed by myself and others. Anyway, when I want to browse more securely I use tor or i2p rather than rely on soley on SSL.


 No.937544>>937551

>>937538

>but I don't use their DNS

Doesn't matter, at the ISP level you can put in a IP redirect at the IPV4 level. So say most DNS server direct an ip to 8.8.8.8. If you avoided most dns server and used one at 1.1.1.1 you could still be redirected to the one at 8.8.8.8 at the ISP level even though you, at the IPV4 level, have connected to 1.1.1.1.

>I haven't seen any evidence of them doing that and don't believe it would be transparent.

I have witnesses a few ISP's do this such as connecting to mega.nz in the USA if you use a proxy in the USA. At a national level there is a firewall/ISP redirect in the USA to block them from getting to mega's file sharing service. Not a problem if you are in new zealand though :>.


 No.937551>>937554

>>937544

True, but I use my own DNS, not google or cloudfare's either. I'd not heard that about mega or used them.

host mega.nz

mega.nz has address 31.216.148.10

mega.nz has IPv6 address 2001:67c:1998:2212::10

mega.nz mail is handled by 10 mail.mega.co.nz.

curl ipinfo.io/31.216.148.10

{

"ip": "31.216.148.10",

"city": "",

"region": "",

"country": "LU",

"loc": "49.7500,6.1667",

"org": "AS24611 Datacenter Luxembourg S.A."

It looks accessible to me from the USA. You made the point about noticing. A DNS redirect wouldn't effect me unless propogated by the root servers. Even so there has been some piratebay spoopiness lately so I switched to http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/ the pirate bay onion for now, which is very nice.


 No.937554>>937558

>>937551

Well someone here is being fucked with because an american whois company reports mega.nz as https://archive.fo/vapZg

>ns_name_01: nsnz1.mega.nz

>ns_ip4_01: 103.244.183.5

>ns_ip6_01: 2405:f900:3e6a:1::103

>ns_name_02: nslu1.mega.nz

>ns_ip4_02: 31.216.148.11

>ns_ip6_02: 2001:67c:1998:2212::11

>ns_name_03: nslu2.mega.nz

>ns_ip4_03: 31.216.148.13

>ns_ip6_03: 2001:67c:1998:2212::13

>ns_name_04: nsnz2.mega.nz

>ns_ip4_04: 122.56.56.216

>ns_ip6_04: 2403:9800:c020::43

And your reported IP of 31.216.148.10 ain't on the list. So either you are being MITM'd, this whois company is reporting false data, if I used a proxy in said locality then I could be MITM'd, or we are both being MITM'd and don't know mega.nz's true IP. And there's your smoking gun that IP redirects not only exist, but happen to be used to MITM websites with SSL traffic.

>but anon the IP's are similar and are for the nameservers

But not the same, just like 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 are similar but not the same.

Just be aware of fuckery like this when your proxy's ISP is owned by a (((hostile government))) intent on your death or subversion. Get a better proxy tbh.


 No.937558

>>937554

Dude, this isn't evidence of a MITM. You did an ns lookup so you got their name servers. Mega has 512 ip addresses at that ASN in addition to however many they have in NZ. It's just normal CDN shit.


 No.937622

>>935813

Tom's Hardware's current editor is (((Avram Piltch)))




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