[–]▶ No.919356>>919360 >>919395 >>919471 >>920047 >>920165 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
> searching "ubuntu iso usb"
> find the official™ tutorial: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-macos
> it unironically suggests "Install and run Etcher™"
> https://etcher.io/
> https://github.com/resin-io/etcher/releases
> Etcher-1.4.4.dmg 77.4 MB
> 77.4 fucking MB
> for a fucking ISO-to-USB writing utility
Guess what technology does it use? It's Electron™.
Why it even had to be created if there were existing alternatives which did not use Electron™?
Will it be possible to use a system-provided Electron™ for deduplicating so that at least it's not burdening the download size and disk footprint of every shitapp written with it?
Or is it the end of desktop computing as we know it?
▶ No.919360
>>919356 (OP)
Where did the file go? I am 100% sure I attached it.
Mods please fix the opening post.
▶ No.919395>>919415 >>919536
>>919356 (OP)
It's a shit application for shitters, there is a bifurcation where shit people have pretty programs made in a day with bloated libs and people who bother to learn the beauty of simple tools you "command".
Major linux distros are now normalfag tier, we both know to use dd, if you want someone to learn in a non shit way point them to OpenBSD and tell them to run "man afterboot"
▶ No.919409>>919417
Silly PC poorfag, us OSX users won't touch your cruddy, old and ugly "commando lines"; we have superior hardware which allows us to utilize sleek, modern apps built with the newest and most advanced technologies.
Get a job, maybe you can afford a new MacBook Pro that doesn't choke on modern Web Apps, unlike your dinky little chinkpad
▶ No.919411>>919431
Feel free to write your own. :^)
▶ No.919415>>919421 >>920145
>>919395
>using dd
bad idea, also wastes rest of space on USB. Most importantly, it requires an iso prepared as isohybrid with a valid boot image for your respective platform (PC-BIOS, EFI x64, etc.). Most current ISOs are, but not all.
Unetbootin or whatever should work fine. Also don't be a faggot and don't fall for the GPT USB drive meme. UEFI spec dictates implementations must boot MBR disks just fine Only Shitdows refuses to boot from MBR disks in UEFI.
▶ No.919417>>919431 >>919464 >>920154
>>919409
umm... I have a macbook pro and I use the command line all the time! OwO
▶ No.919421>>920218
>>919415
>using dd is a bad idea
>use Unetbootin
▶ No.919431
>>919417
he was just really bad at trolling the Internet.
>>919411
what to use for GUI then? Qt?
should be cross-platform and free, too.
▶ No.919464>>919466
>>919417
This makes you 9000 times more disgusting
▶ No.919466
>>919464
which part? my cuteposting, having a mac, or using ed?
▶ No.919469>>919520
when will chrome become an electron app?
▶ No.919471
>>919356 (OP)
I use it for Windows when I have to. Since Windows is already bloated and insecure, I don't see why not to run apps that are too.
▶ No.919498>>920017
Why not just copy the iso directly to the disk? Unless it's not a live disk which 99.99% are what is the point of a middleman program?
▶ No.919520
>>919469
It already is. It's literally based on the same chromium base as all electron apps
▶ No.919536>>919538 >>920041 >>920047 >>920059
>>919395
>use dd
Don't use that over-engineered malformed piece of bloat. Just use cp.
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▶ No.920017
>>919498
but will it boot?
▶ No.920041
>>919536
>over-engineered
DD is not over-engineered, it's things that it was engineered for are extinct. So don't fucking bullshit at tool that's been there for 45 years
▶ No.920047>>920051 >>920064 >>920302
>>919356 (OP)
What's the problem? Yes, Electron is shit, but this is the kind of program you start once in a blue moon, use it for its one purpose and then quit it again. Performance is irrelevant, and if it helps someone unfamiliar with the terminal to make an Ubuntu boot stick that's a plus. Someone who uses etcher probably would not have been able to get a bootable USB drive any other way.
>>919536
Will cp make the USB stick bootable? No, it won't.
▶ No.920050>>920150 >>920183 >>920302
Rufus is still the king of USB boot disk creation.
Too bad it's shitdoes-only software.
It will be a good day when someone ports it.
▶ No.920051
>>920047
>Will cp make the USB stick bootable? No, it won't.
It will. Try it.
dd is a generic data redirector. It's not a tool for making USB sticks bootable. If you can do it with dd, you can do it with cp.
(I'm sure there are images that are flaky enough to require extra work, but they won't work with dd either)
▶ No.920059>>920062 >>920152
>>919536
>dd
>overengineered
Mate, i could write a dd clone in an hour
Its the perfect tool for a number of different use cases. That's not overengineering, that's good engineering
▶ No.920062
>>920059
It is handy for some things, and that post wasn't entirely serious.
But it feels silly to use a tool that can convert to EBCDIC to perform a task that could be accomplished by cat < image.iso > /dev/sdX, and its interface is weirdly non-Unixy.
▶ No.920064>>920086
>>920047
>Yes, Electron is shit, but this is the kind of program you start once in a blue moon, use it for its one purpose and then quit it again.
Tell that to the legion of mouth-breathers using Atom.
▶ No.920086>>920088 >>920139 >>920162 >>920302
>>920064
You seem to know about these things. How did they manage to make VSCode an electron application and yet a match in performance to sublime text?
▶ No.920088>>920097 >>920139
>>920086
>a match in performance to sublime text?
it's not.
▶ No.920097
>>920088
How did they make with such a performance difference to atom and every other electron-based editor though?
▶ No.920123
I'm sticking to emacs and dd instead of these nu-programs.
Yeah I know, emacs is lame, but it's a thing if you're a developer.
▶ No.920139
>>920086
>>920088
I use VS Code and sadly even though Atom feels slower, ST still feels quite a bit faster than VS Code.
▶ No.920145>>920218
>>919415
>also wastes rest of space on USB
literally who cares
>Most importantly, it requires an iso prepared as isohybrid
Just install syslinux and run isohybrid you fucking faggot. This is literally a non-issue.
>Unetbootin or whatever should work fine.
Literally shoot yourself
▶ No.920150>>920318
>>920050
no. dd or dd for windows.
don't fuck with that non-portable shit.
<FUKIN USE DD FOR EVERYTHING!
▶ No.920152
>>920059
Write it in c or rust faygit.
>Inb4 HURR DURR IL DO IT IN VB 8XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>xd
▶ No.920154>>920174
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>>919417
I have a thinkpad T500 and i wanna turn it into a hackintosh on one of my hard drives so i can see what a ""Proffessionaly Developed"" FreeBSD ripoff looks Ａ Ｎ Ｄ Ｆ Ｅ Ｅ Ｌ Ｓ Like.
グハ委ベ へ ド ケィ
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▶ No.920156
>919356
It's pronounced Itscher
▶ No.920162>>920171
>>920086
VSCode is a faster electron-based IDE than Atom, but I wouldn't say it matches Sublime. The only reason VSCode isn't a slow memory hogging wreck like Atom is that VSCode is developed by Microsoft, and it utilizes it's own in-house text editor that Microsoft developed.
▶ No.920165>>920304
>>919356 (OP)
>WAAAAAAAA MAC SOFTWARE IS BLOATED
No shit. Go sperg somewhere else.
▶ No.920171
>>920162
ms text editor
breaks my code. have to rite a program to port it to ms format. I'ts a pain in the ass and aught to be illegal.
▶ No.920174>>920177
>>920154
For a proprietary OS it's pretty comfy uwu. I mean I'd probably not use it if I had a choice, as it's likely very botnet, but still if you have to use a nonfree OS, i'd take this over Windows any day of the week.
Just be sure to get Homebrew so you can have a package manager.
▶ No.920177>>920180
>>920174
>not using the best one
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▶ No.920183
>>920050
what about Easy2boot?
▶ No.920218>>920305
>>920145
The iso itself needs to be hybrid, you retard.
If there's no valid MBR or GPT inside the boot image in the iso, your computer won't boot from the iso. For example Ubuntu versions prior to 12.10 won't work with dd. So don't just go assuming dd will always work.
>>919421
As explained earlier, dd is a bad idea because there are some isos which won't work with it.
I personally don't use any USB creator software. I just copy the isos to a folder, then write entries in grub.cfg to mount an iso in a loopback device and provide paths to the kernel and initrd in the iso
▶ No.920302
>>920047
>but this is the kind of program you start once in a blue moon, use it for its one purpose and then quit it again
And it still takes a shitload of disk space even when it's not used, and it needs a lot of traffic to be downloaded.
>>920050
>Windows only
>>920086
>a match in performance to sublime text
didn't happen
▶ No.920304
>>920165
it's cross platform, nothing specific to mac
▶ No.920305>>921969
>>920218
>I just copy the isos to a folder, then write entries in grub.cfg to mount an iso in a loopback device and provide paths to the kernel and initrd in the iso
what if your computer doesn't have GRUB?
▶ No.920318>>921959 >>922016
>>920150
dd doesn't work for everything.
▶ No.921959>>922031
>>920318
Like what?
I'm genuinely curious.
▶ No.921969
>>920305
The administrators of these computers are on their own.
▶ No.922016>>922031
>>920318
just because you need to RTFM and specify the block size or other doesn't mean you need a botnet to do it for you.
▶ No.922031
>>921959
Windows shit. XP and NT don't work outside of bullshit hackery.
>>922016
>RTFM fixes Windows quirks
Truly >>>/g/
>Windows is shit
Windows makes me money.
▶ No.922118>>922121
dd is the standard tool. However, this might be good for people that cannot use the CLI.
▶ No.922121
>>922118
It literally takes a few seconds to copy and paste shit from a tutorial into the terminal. You're dense.