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I just tried windows 10 and holy shit it's really impressive how the pajeets could fuck up as much as they could, it's probably the worst OS i have ever used i would prefeer running FUCKING! WINDOWS VISTA!!!! over this 200$ shit.
How could anyone willingly use this?
How can Pajeetsoft™ not be bankrupt yet?
▶ No.917385>>966276
Completely agree. As I said in another thread, this is by far the most antiuser piece of software I've used in my whole life. Between the lack of customizability and the "dumbing it down" it's amazing such a software isn't widely derided.
▶ No.917386>>917435 >>918043 >>942135
I torrented it and found it to be decent enough in a VM. You can modify a good majority of the shit features including the requirement for the firewall to be on and it hogs the shit out of the memory. In strict performance terms it is miles ahead of Windows 7. Windows 8 is better but it doesn't play well with KVM in my experience so I avoid it. It also has the added bonus of the new DX version which is nice if a little useless.
▶ No.917387>>930905 >>963357 >>965459
It's not going away as long as all the relevant software is exclusive to Windows.
>inb4 muh vine
▶ No.917398>>917403 >>917459 >>917564 >>918043 >>918089 >>918169 >>918994 >>930737 >>949093 >>962643 >>966432
It's the best post-XP O/S that Microsoft has put out. The complaint sounds like you didn't use any features and just immediately started trying to disable all of the cruft it comes with (which is 98% possible to do, as pain in the ass as it is). Actually using it and getting shit done, however, it a breeze. Really snappy, too.
▶ No.917403>>918031 >>919311 >>930935 >>933410
>>917398
>there are faggots unironically using Windows 10 on /tech/ in the CY+2
Next thing you know he'll be telling us how it doesn't really spy on you if you spend the entire weekend hacking the registry.
>it's really good and snappy if you disable the botnet features
>it's usable if you don't update it
>the GUI isn't bad if you modify everything about it
Cucks will work this hard to unbotnet Windows and then turn around and tell you setting up *nix is too complicated.
▶ No.917405
i have like folder with 1000 things to do just so i can stop Windows 10 from communicating with its servers and doing things out of my control
its insane
THIS WAS NOT A PROBLEM WITH EARLIER WINDOWS VERSIONS
Microsoft BACKPORTED telemetry with updates to them
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▶ No.917430>>918501 >>949126
>>917381 (OP)
>How could anyone willingly use this?
>How can Pajeetsoft™ not be bankrupt yet?
M$ approach companies/cities/government not hooked on M$ phonics and offer them a sweet short term deal. Management is stupid and just want to show how much profits they are making for the company and get their fat promotions. But what they've done is setup the company to get fucked by M$ without lube in the long run. They don't care tho. They can just hop to another company.
▶ No.917435>>918494
>>917386
>willingly installing win10 instead of anything
literally why tho. that OS serves no purpose. do you have some driver from the year 2022 that only works on win10?
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▶ No.917458>>917462 >>917466 >>919168 >>933334
>>917394
Wangblows Vista was shit due to pajeet tier coding, the OS itself was somewhat usable once they fixed all the bugs and called it Windows 7 by Microshaft standards.
>>917454
Startingly accurate.
What'll Windows 11 be?
A series of goy-carrying glass cubes hanging over a street in Tel Aviv?
▶ No.917459>>919311
>>917398
It looks like dogshit (flat design is cancer), and every upgrade manages to be utterly broken.
▶ No.917460>>917464 >>920475 >>932260 >>965904
I know that feel. I have Windows 10 installed for vidya and every other time I turn it on it spends half an hour updating god-knows-what meanwhile the whole machine is blocked and you're not even supposed to restart, that also happens when powering off although not as often, not to mention it's slower than my Linux on a much cheaper non-vidya laptop. I'd probably go crazy if I had to use it for work.
▶ No.917462>>918994
>>917458
>What'll Windows 11 be?
There won't be a Windows 11, the panopticon prison aka Windows 10 is final destination
▶ No.917464>>917598 >>920475 >>945717 >>962643
>>917460
>I'd probably go crazy if I had to use it for work.
Anyone here who uses Windows 10 at work because that's what the company went for? How does the IT department approach the botnet antifeatures and other bullshit like the updates causing obstructions at random times? Is Server 2016 a similar kind of disaster?
▶ No.917466>>918994
>>917458
It's almost certain that Windows 10 will become a "cloud" OS within the next 5 years or so, the computer will only have some bootstrap code (basically extended firmware) initializing I/O and network, and will boot straight to botnet. Similarly, Office 365 will be the only version of MS Office, and Windows Server will probably be discontinued and merged into the Azure platform.
▶ No.917473>>917478
A few weeks ago I had to install Windows 10 for someone, it was like traveling from a first-world country into a war-torn shithole. Just getting the damn key to register with the key server took us an hour because if you made just one mistake the entire installation process got fucked. And of course in order to get your (((free))) student key you have to sign up for like five different services. A few days later I installed Kubuntu on my new PC, it was like therapy: everything was so smooth, simple, friendly and never got into my way, no key, no web services. It's just a fucking installer for crying out loud, how can you fuck up something that simple.
>>917381 (OP)
> How can Pajeetsoft™ not be bankrupt yet?
People need software X, and software X is only available for Windows, so that's what they use. Furthermore, Windows comes preinstalled on pretty much any PC you can buy. And of course there is the case of a Microsoft representative coming to demonstrate their new products with two suitcases and leaving with only one suitcase.
▶ No.917474>>917481
Unfortunately I use windows 10 because I need visual studio for study and because I Can not administrate my own computer. (it's shame)
This system fuck my hardware so hard and sometimes I ask myself - why?
▶ No.917478
>>917473
OH, free student version
This problems is just begin!
Updates like nightmare. I gave up, actually.
Hope you're more lucky than me
▶ No.917481
>>917474
>I use windows 10 because I need visual studio for study and because I Can not administrate my own computer. (it's shame)
I got a similar situation. just get a T500 and put pirated windows 7 or vista on a second harddrive in the ultrabay, and encrypted linux on the main drive. Unless your school is 100% facist they should let you bring your own machine.
▶ No.917497>>917504
>>917381 (OP)
>tfw haven't had to interact with a windows machine in 18 months
>tfw job is windows free
>tfw home computers run debian
I don't even miss it. It's like some foreign world to me now and I'm happy about it
▶ No.917504
>>917497
>18 months
My streak was like 4 years up until around now. Hadn't even touched a windows computer until last week. Feels good man.
Of course, when you're back at using windows for whatever reason it just sucks. Terribly.
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▶ No.917564>>919311
>>917398
>It's the best post-XP O/S that Microsoft has put out
>The complaint sounds like you didn't use any features and just immediately started trying to disable all of the cruft it comes with
>(which is 98% possible to do, as pain in the ass as it is)
>Actually using it and getting shit done, however, it a breeze. Really snappy, too.
▶ No.917585>>917880
I was actually a loyal and long-time Windows user up until like 3 days ago, but I am now officially sick of Microsoft's shit. And it's one thing in particular; really two problems in tandem that make it really bad. I like using as little CPU/memory as possible. so for example, I'm thinking that using the built-in virus scanner thing would be the most efficient.
But there's a problem: every fucking time I walk away from the computer, the thing revs up like it's decoding video or some shit. It's either the aforementioned Defender thing, with it's automatic scans that you can't turn off, or Windows trying to install some "modules", I'm guessing updates for modern apps. The result of Windows trying to do both is that EVERY time the computer is idle, it's doing some shit.
Since this kind of behavior (from the outside, without using system monitoring tools or anything) is nearly identical to bitcoin miners, in my eyes, Windows can be talked about in the same category as malware. It makes your hardware do shit you don't want it to do. I just got too pissed off one day and installed Linux Mint in an afternoon. It's been pretty good so far.
▶ No.917594
>>917381 (OP)
>I just tried windows 10 and holy shit it's really impressive how the pajeets could fuck up as much as they could, it's probably the worst OS i have ever used i would prefeer running FUCKING! WINDOWS VISTA!!!! over this 200$ shit.
To be fair, Vista really wasn't that bad after SP1 as long as you had a machine that could actually handle it.
▶ No.917598>>917601 >>917935 >>930913
>>917464
>How does the IT department approach the botnet antifeatures and other bullshit like the updates causing obstructions at random times?
AFAIK you can disable all that crap in the enterprise version.
▶ No.917601
>>917598
Yeah, that is one thing Microsoft is good at, I'll give them credit. They love to make money beyond all else, so they KNOW pissing off the enterprise and China is a bad idea, so they bent the knee for them. Everyone else gets the shaft, though.
▶ No.917741>>917867
>>917381 (OP)
My workplace uses Debian on all its computers. I haven't touched a windows computer in years. I haven't touched a crApple in decades.
>How could anyone willingly use this?
Normies are afraid of Linux for some reason.
▶ No.917867>>933509
>>917741
What does your company do?
▶ No.917876
>How can Pajeetsoft™ not be bankrupt yet?
That's the power of monopoly and patents. Once you have control of the market you can do anything you want.
▶ No.917880>>917928
>>917585
Ah, the eternal perils of svchost also known as Microsoft Telemetry Compatibility service.
To be fair Ganoo/Loonix can rev up the CPU at times toowhen using btrfsbut it's nowhere near as bad as Kikebongs.
Also idle RAM usage on Linux is consistently <1GB even on a "bloated" distro whereas wangblows 10 would never go below 2GB even on a clean install.
▶ No.917883>>941608
>>917454
Make Windows 7 a sideways house.
▶ No.917886>>917887 >>917932
> I like using as little CPU/memory as possible. so for example, I'm thinking that using the built-in virus scanner thing would be the most efficient.
no, fucklord. the most efficient thing is to run no antivirus at all. if you ever _do_ get some malware or the system seems slow, just reinstall it. even without malware the system will eventually be slowed because of all the bullshit that all the proprietary software you installed does
▶ No.917887>>917932
>>917886
s/reinstall it/reinstall the OS
▶ No.917928>>918029 >>918994 >>965435
>>917880
>Also idle RAM usage on Linux is consistently <1GB even on a "bloated" distro
I know man. I'm specifically running Mint KDE 18.3, and that shit boots at like 400mb. It's cray.
BTW, I am also running btrfs, so what in particular causes it to tax the system? I'm assuming that the computer sitting around and doing nothing is not one of the triggers.
▶ No.917932>>918994
>>917887
>>917886
Well exactly, the answer is to probably not fuck with Windows at all.
But if you're wondering where I got the idea from, Security Essentials was actually the shit in the XP days. It used barely any resources, was industry competitive, and you could SCHEDULE SCANS and shit. When I heard Windows 10 had it included, I was excited. Then later disappointed.
▶ No.917935>>918167
>>917598
Not all of it. And no one even cares they just happily suck Microsoft's cock
I've worked in IT for several companions
▶ No.917943>>917949
>>917381 (OP)
well, what they did do right is no screen tearing, which is something i seem unable to get rid off on my gentoo meme machine. Any suggestions?
▶ No.917949>>917959
>>917943
What GPU do you have? What DE are you using? Are you using a compositor?
▶ No.917959>>918033 >>919121 >>920456 >>956059 >>969118
>>917949
i switch between internal (intel) and nvidia (nvidia-driver), I got a laptop on which I want to save battery sometimes.
I use kde and i3 mostly. KDE's compositor for intel and nvidia sucks ass imo. Nvidia is worse tho. Turning internal compositor off and enabling Compton gives me weird black lines next to the opened windows on both internal and nvidia. Compton also seems to have some problems correctly displaying shadows. If this and the previously mentioned problems are related idk.
i3 has no internal compositor, so I also use Compton to save me from the v-sync inferno a little. The problem is with scrolling faster than average, it starts to tear a little bit, but everywhere... The point is: I seem unable to configure it right or Compton lacks the features it needs, since I just want it to wait until it fully rendered and can do the animation without making my eyes bleed.
I fucked around some with my settings, but the annoying thing is I don't understand what I'm doing. One time I had some config in Compton that would stop emacs from refreshing its screen every so often. Which increases my dissatisfaction & envy on how beautifully its done on wangblows.
fyi since the configurations for nvidia and intel gpu arent the same I aliased a command to enable either one depending on the one I'm using. I could post config if ur interested
▶ No.918029>>918994
>>917928
Btrfs has automated FS scrubbing/repair that pops up for a few minutes every 5 hours or so at least that's what it does on my end.
Is the webbum I uploaded earlier corrupt or is it just 8ch being 8ch?
▶ No.918031>>918037 >>918090
>>917403
>there are faggots unironically using Firefox on /tech/ in the CY+2
Next thing you know he'll be telling us how it doesn't really spy on you if you spend the entire weekend hacking about:config.
>it's really good and snappy if you disable the botnet features
>it's usable if you don't update it
>the GUI isn't bad if you modify everything about it
Cucks will work this hard to unbotnet Firefox and then turn around and tell you setting up Otter Browser is too complicated.
▶ No.918033
>>917959
>nvidia
Found your problem. Switch to nouveau or GNOME.
▶ No.918037>>918095
>>918031
But it's based on chromium. How does one e.g. disable http2 or the performance apis? There is a reason Tor uses Firefox as a base.
▶ No.918043>>918087 >>918494 >>919311
You're right, OP. I went back to Windows 7. I don't have an upgrade path when support for it ends in 2020.
>How could anyone willingly use this?
Win32
>>917386
You can't install Windows 7 on the latest CPUs without twiddling with the install media.
>>917394
It is if you compare it to Vista with SP2. You're right otherwise.
>>917398
There's lag from when you press the start button and the menu appears. That single fact is enough to accurately put it among the shittiest of all OSs.
▶ No.918085
If you're not activating a KMS-capable edition against a VLMCSD virtual machine (WITH vlmcs.tcp.localdomain SRV record pointing at said VM's IP), you're pleb-tier!
▶ No.918087>>918480
>>918043
>You can't install Windows 7 on the latest CPUs without twiddling with the install media
>not knowing about wufuc.exe
c'mon anon.
▶ No.918089
>>917398
back to cuckchan /g/ with you poojeet.
▶ No.918090>>918095
>>918031
That doesn't really work. An about:config can be altered easily by editing your user.js, and their are multiple projects dedicated to authoring and maintaining user.js's, all for different ends. It's as simple as cloning a GitHub repository, and updating can be updated with a simple cron job even with custom changes. A lot of security is a matter toggling the security alarm before the burglars get in, so automating that process, and having those features actively maintained by people who are willing to put in the research is incredibly valuable. But I digress; security is much different than privacy.
The latter is also misinformed. There's an entire ecosystem of chrome tweaks for Firefox, and they can all be extended by your userchrome file, which is a one-time thing.
The difference between Firefox and other browsers is that the former can be extended in simple plaintext and saved in a GitHub repository, whereas most browsers want to be extended on a per-profile basis and are typically not as featureful.
You are right about privacy. A user.js isn't going to redeem Firefox's built-in telemetry, and fuck Mozilla. Which is why I eagerly await the new IceCat. For the record, though, security and privacy are two separate things, although they often go hand in hand.
And I don't really think Otter is a good project to bring up in a discussion about viable browser solutions. It's not even valid in the category of actively maintained browsers.
▶ No.918095>>918098
>>918037
Otter browse doesn't implement http2. That was only added to chrome in 2015, Otter Browser was forked from the 2013 chrome and http2 is not mentioned in the changelog or anywhere in the github. I don't know about the performance API's honestly.
>>918090
Merely talking about firefox from a privacy standpoint. Also IceCat is not really that much better I have heard. I havent done any tests on it myself though so I cant really talk about it. Anyway there are lots of maintained windows 10 registry files (I think thats how this works? Sorry I don't use win10) that supposedly disable the spyware. Of course that wont turn off google analytics on the addons page, but whatever.
I agree with both of you about Otter Browser not being good to bring up to make my point. I just thought it was funny how you could replace "windows 10" with firefox in that statement.
▶ No.918098
>>918095
Sorry that post is unclear, when talking about the addons page I meant the one in Firefox. I dont know if it's been changed but this is what I mean:
https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785
▶ No.918167>>918421
>>917935
Just out of curiosity, what CAN'T you disable?
▶ No.918169>>919311
>>917398
Just use linux or openbsd then, seriously.
For getting shit done, those os's are way snappier.
▶ No.918197>>918227 >>918230 >>918994
they'll run out of money and die eventually. i give em 5-10 more years max.
▶ No.918227
>>918197
>megacorp
>running out of money
hahahaha
▶ No.918230
>>918197
They'll run out of competent employees long before that happens.
▶ No.918233>>918494 >>920893
I tested it out in a VM the other day. Immediately bombarded with some loud cunt pumped up to max volume which was ear shattering on my shitty head phones. Then once I unticked all the ""optional"" botnet settings and got into it I kept getting constant spamming notifications from the same cunt that screamed at me before in text form like that old paperclip tip guy from whatever OS.
just use mxlinux instead/10
▶ No.918287>>918994
Shitdows 10 sure is easy to set up:
>here, download these 3 totally safe batch/powershell scripts, and these 3 .exes from some random website to "disable/remove" telemetry (which keep changing every version release)
>here, just paste this in your group policy and run gpupdate.exe
>here, run these .reg files (they're safe, promise)
>go into settings->privacy and disable everything. you have to do it manually because it can't be scripted
>oh, and also you have to disable driver download and remote assistance on Control Panel->system->advanced settings, oh, and also...
>I forgot to say it's actually impossible to turn off cortana (SearchUI) and ShellExperienceHost
>I hope you don't mind Windows 10 Home (most common version bundled with PCs) can't really turn off updates group policy doesn't work
>also remember to enter settings to periodically make requests that your data be deleted from Microsoft's servers
All of this cancer and more, just to get to USE your computer.
▶ No.918421>>918703
>>918167
There's still data sent when configured for maximum autism you can just tell it to send less
even then there's no way to audit the code and check if the disable settings are just placebo
▶ No.918475>>918479
>>917394
Its worse than ME, by far the worst OS Microsoft has ever produced by a country mile and more.
I'd rather use MacOS and I used to hate that thing.
▶ No.918479>>918535 >>918994
>>918475
MacOS? What's wrong with MacOS?
▶ No.918480>>919003
>>918087
>https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc
>Written in C, the best programming language.
was this written by someone from /tech/?
▶ No.918494>>918994
>>917435
Gaming. Wine is shit and I don't want that crap on my base install anyway.
>>918043
This is a vm so you can just a different CPU model that is supported. Since VM performance without passthrough tends to be shit it's hard to notice the difference versus using your host model.
>>918233
You really need the pro or enterprise version and know going into it that without modifications it doesn't matter what version you have it will be shit. Basic Win10 is like hell.
▶ No.918499>>918500 >>918505 >>918994 >>920060 >>965413 >>965911
What the shit? Win10 is by far best Windows ever made and this coming from someone who used Linux exclusively for many years.
>finally KDE-tier window snapping
>finally scroll-hovered-content-without-changing-focus
>finally virtual desktops
>finally proper notification centre
>finally expose view
>finally a store
>finally properly multilingual
>powershell isn't half that bad
>windows subsystem for linux ftw
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▶ No.918501>>918871
>>917430
>M$
wow it's like 1999 again and everyone in the internet is 12
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▶ No.918507>>918510 >>918994
>>918505
>package management and automatic updates to applications are bad when M$ does it lmao
▶ No.918510>>918513
>>918507
Nice cuckchan filename
▶ No.918519>>930916
>>917381 (OP)
>botnet
>inconsistent UI
>made by foreigners working for peanuts compared to the rest of the industry
>muh "frameworks"
>150 million lines of code
>muh store
>must pay money for full development suite
>muh gaymes
Frankly anybody running Windows in this day and age deserves their shitty experience. Even Linux is more newb friendly at this point.
▶ No.918535
>>918479
Nothing. Its I don't get it. Why do people hate it?
Granted PPC OSX was closer to NeXTSTEP, bit its still fine
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▶ No.918703>>918817
>>918421
>There's still data sent when configured for maximum autism you can just tell it to send less
Are you sure that's the ENTERPRISE and not pro version?
▶ No.918817>>920456
>>918703
LTSB
It's the only version that's tolerable and it still sucks ass
▶ No.918870
>>917394
It is. Vista wasn't even that bad unless you were running a toaster
▶ No.918871>>918969
>>918501
It's a valid sentiment, considering Microsoft IS a corporation, and corporations only exist to create profit. That's not necessarily a bad thing until said corporation is in a place like Microsoft, where there is no adequate competition, so Microsoft, concerned only with profit, is "too big to improve," meaning it has no incentive to improve because it won't result in more profit when everyone is using Windows anyways.
▶ No.918969>>918988 >>920060
>>918871
Microsoft has improved a lot precisely due to competition, not only Windows but Office and others.
There was a time when WinXP was so horrible Mandrake with KDE as default was actually much better than it was, and OpenOffice was legit on-par with Office 2003. Now LibreOffice doesn't stand a chance against Office 365 with few exceptions such as formula editor and epub creation. Pidgin was hellova better than MS Messenger at being MS Messenger and Ekiga was way better than Skype. Both not anymore (and Messenger is dead).
Now GNOME has been a mess for a while and only KDE can effectively compete with Windows on desktop, but every major distro defaults to GNOME, so there goes that. OS X is main competition now. All the best features of KDE are now in Windows 10 anyways, even direct communication to contacts in form of People that's ripoff of Telepathy framework but works better. I don't feel like missing out now at all on Windows side, and I ceased using Windows altogether for years when Win8 hit.
MS clearly reacts to competition all the time but that competition isn't there like it used to be. Linux ecosystem is falling behind. Doesn't help that pic related. Yet I don't even need those since bash from github's git for Windows exists, at least haven't found reason yet. But they exist.
▶ No.918988>>919080
>>918969
What you consider improvement, and what I consider improvement, are different things. I think Windows has actually gotten worse, rather than improved.
▶ No.918994>>918996 >>918997 >>919311
>>918197
>>917381 (OP)
>How can Pajeetsoft™ not be bankrupt yet?
MS will probably team up with Canonical or RedHat, and start infecting GANOO+Loonix with pajeetware. They just need to create the next SystemD.
>>917394
At least Vista didn't get more bugs and become worse and worse with each new update, unlike Botnet 10. Vista also had better GUI and less lag (probably because it had less botnet)
>>917466
>>917462
But perhaps MS will start selling ""Premium Support"" for Botnet 10, and continue just providing security updates (and updates to their spyware) for regular version of Windows 10?
t. eri
>>917398
>O/S
Your bait is just too niggerlicious.
Also, some old games refuse to work properly on Windows 10
>>917507
But what about malware?
>>917932
Yeah, Microshit Security Essentials used to be good when it first come out, but it quickly become almost useless as it couldn't (and still can't) detect anything
>>917928
>>918029
I wouldn't use btrfs, if you don't needs its features (you know if you need them). ext4 is also more stable FS.
>>918287
then next """Feature Update""" will undo all your changes. because MS knows what's best for you and your data :^)
>>918479
bad GUI (imo), still no proper package manager and why not just use GNU/Linux or *BSD? What advantages does MacOS have over Linux or *BSD? Zero, imo.
>>918494
>Wine is shit
B-But it depends on the game
>>918499
>finally a store
What's so great about an app store??
>finally properly multilingual
All additional languages are deleted during feature updates and Botnet 10 may or may not re-download them automatically.
>powershell isn't half that bad
PowerShill is slow as fuck.
>windows subsystem for linux ftw
If you want to use GNU/Linux, then why not just install GNU/Linux??
>>918507
Nice baits, paid shill(s).
Forced botnet updates aren't a good thing, even if you like Windows and MS app store thing is just awful.
▶ No.918996>>919004
>>918994
I wouldn't mind seeing a linux distro removed of all GNU utils and replaced with MS utils.
▶ No.918997
>>918994
>bad GUI (imo), still no proper package manager and why not just use GNU/Linux or *BSD? What advantages does MacOS have over Linux or *BSD? Zero, imo.
I wasn't talking about OS X or macOS or whatever it is now.
▶ No.919003
>>918480
That's just a minor jest. The entire internet has always been full of C evangelists.
There's some emoji there too but i don't have a font for it. So i may be missing some important information
▶ No.919004
>>918996
Same, I don't think its possible to fuck up more than GNU has.
▶ No.919080
>>918988
Wow, you sure convinced me now!
▶ No.919089>>919141 >>920456 >>948799
Let me guess: you're an utter faggot and didn't install Enterprise LTSB 2016 + Ancile.
what did I win?
▶ No.919121
>>917959
Personally have no screen tearing in gnome-shell and xfce, but I have screen tearing in plasma with an amd gpu.
If I use opengl with kwin i have no screen tear but kwin dies often wehn alt-tabbing, with xrender there's no crash but there's screen tearing.
▶ No.919129>>919140 >>919146 >>919150 >>919151 >>919165 >>919287 >>965413
I agree, but every modern OS sucks - because the standards suck. GNU/Linux sucks; It's really just as bad as Windows. The only redeeming feature of GNU/Linux is that it's free software, and it's hardly redeeming because the codebase is so complex. Also, Mac OS X is a proprietary piece of shit system made by a company obsessed with locked down overpriced paper computers.
Most people only like GNU/Linux because it's not Windows, and because if it's FREE (not that it has to be FREE or FREE but it can be FREE and FREE), it must be good, ...right? Remember kids, GNU's Not Unix, and that's somehow a good thing.
Welcome to a world where the maintainers of software dash towards a monolithic system where you're forced to use inelegant bloated software like systemd, dbus, udev, udisk, dconf, gconf, pulseaudio, ifplugd, avahi, polkit, udev, network manager, consolekit, udisks, upowerover (guarantee 99% of GNU/Linux users here use one or more of these). The problem with the Linux ecosystem is that nobody cares about elegance, it just has to work.
The kernel programmers are incompetent, the userland programmers are obsessed with ideology and the users are now right in the middle of a vendor lock-in, of the type they wanted to escape by moving to GNU/Linux. How long before those who develop software for GNU/Linux (e.g Lennart) screw you over? Not long. Ignore all the people defending something just because of its license and because it's "not Windows". They're just as deluded as the faggots on /v/ who use Windows. You're retarded if you think you're "superior" because you use GNU/Linux over Windows, or vice versa.
▶ No.919140>>919142
>>919129
>guarantee 99% of GNU/Linux users here use one or more of these
I use gnee/loonix daily and I use none of these.
Rate my Autism
▶ No.919141>>919176
>>919089
>my shitty OS is only good in this given version
▶ No.919142>>919155
>>919140
You are a hero. (Unless you have them installed and just don't use them, in which case die.) But, please tell me you don't have anything like Firefox/Chromium/apache on your system.
▶ No.919146>>919153
>>919129
I use GNU/Linux because it's free. Free software is good because I will always have the freedom to change any part whenever I choose to do it. If I feel one part is inelegant, I can choose to change at any time I wish. When the software is free, there will never be vendor lock-in.
▶ No.919150
>>919129
no Windows 10 is actually a whole new level of aids. i've hated the fuck out of Linux for 15 years and also have been saying Windows is only slightly worse, but Windows 10 is not in the same boat
▶ No.919151
>>919129
>like systemd, dbus, udev, udisk, dconf, gconf, pulseaudio, ifplugd, avahi, polkit, udev, network manager, consolekit, udisks, upowerover
I have none of those except udev and dbus, and it's still shit. only 1 or two things i have even "need" dbus. even without udev linux would still be shit
▶ No.919153>>919161 >>919278 >>920090
>>919146
Exactly the kind of GNUtard delusion I despise. Why do all of you ape the cadence/writing style of Stallman...? Do you think this makes you seem more sapient/sagacious? Guess what: it makes you sound like an inculcated cult member. Anyways, please show me the replacements for the software I listed that you wrote yourself. After all, you have the freedom (sic) to do it - right?
▶ No.919155
>>919142
I don't even have any of them installed. Unfortunately I still have furryshits installed(esr52 won't be """uprgrading""") because I need to access certain pages for university.
I plan on making my own "distro" soon so that I can completely remove the gnu part of my system. The only thing holding me up is deciding how I want to do package management. pkgsrc seems alright but there are some other tools which I like more.
▶ No.919161
>>919153
The reason why anybody should replace their software is because that software doesn't achieve the necessary functions. If the software achieves the desired functions, why should the software be replaced? I have never felt the need to replace any of the free software I use. I have had instances where I have modified them to better achieve the functions I desire.
▶ No.919165
>>919129
>How long before those who develop software for GNU/Linux (e.g Lennart) screw you over?
▶ No.919168
>>917458
>Wangblows Vista was shit due to pajeet tier coding
▶ No.919176
>>919141
<my shitty OS is only good in this given version
>not knowing it gets kernel updates
whatever version i'm on now isn't the version i installed.
▶ No.919278>>919285 >>920091
>>919153
This. When I was a child, I rambled the same nonsense. How many apps have I written as a "happy hacker"? None. How many contributions over years to other projects? About 70, most which were rejected for not matching vision of project lead. So much for that "fixing what I don't like" argument if you need to apply same patch every release, verify it works and compile every time. And you have to do that when libs and releases elsewhere move forward. It's incredibly tedious. It's all utopia on paper, that's the reality.
Right now I'm not writing one line of code for free. I don't have to, people pay me to do that. And every hobby project I do is explicitly closed source just in case I can make money out of it at some point and most importantly I don't have to battle the project leads and lesser minions ever again on mailing lists and bug trackers, coding is fun again!
▶ No.919285>>919292
>>919278
>How many contributions over years to other projects? About 70, most which were rejected for not matching vision of project lead.
This isn't an issue about the free software movement but an issue about the individual software projects. Nothing in the free software movement requires people to cooperate with other people. The requirement is that people who wish to cooperate are not restricted by any single developer or distributor.
>o much for that "fixing what I don't like" argument if you need to apply same patch every release, verify it works and compile every time. And you have to do that when libs and releases elsewhere move forward. It's incredibly tedious. It's all utopia on paper, that's the reality.
Matters of convenience and user investment cost are not the concern of the free software movement and I have no problem stating the reality of all software: the cost of freedom and responsibility is inherently not cheap. Software doesn't grow on trees, you don't plant a software seed, wait six months and then harvest a software plant afterwards; somebody has to take the time to write software line by line. This is reality of every piece of software in existence regardless of whether the software is free software or non-free software. I am not advocating that free software is more convenient than anything; sometimes it is and sometimes it's not. What I'm advocating is that users will always have the freedom to modify their software.
>Right now I'm not writing one line of code for free. I don't have to, people pay me to do that.
You are confused to believe that free software means "no money is allowed for software". This is false. We encourage everybody to earn a profit selling free software at any price the customer will bear.
▶ No.919287
>>919129
I want AmigaOS to become FLOSS already.
▶ No.919292>>919293
>>919285
>"happy hacker" and "fixing what I don't like" are just what we use to fool people in don't take it literally goy haha
the post
▶ No.919293>>919298
▶ No.919298>>919299
>>919293
Your flaccid rambling wasn't argument.
▶ No.919299>>919309
>>919298
You're a big argument
▶ No.919309
>>919299
Yes. I'm always right.
▶ No.919311>>919344 >>919982 >>920477
>>917403
>>917459
Never had a problem with the upgrades, in fact, they've pushed out some really great features, e.g. WSL and NFS mounting.
>>918043
I've never experienced the lag you're talking about. I have a simplified start menu and am running bare metal, though, so YMMV.
>>918169
I don't disagree, which is why I use GNU/NT (pic related).
>>917564
>>918994
Stuff that Just Works: multi-monitor with mixed DPI and scaling, hot-switchable GPU drivers for the 2 internal and 1 external graphics cards I'm using, and hardware acceleration in the browser (no Linux browser has this). I'm unironically saying that Windows 10 Pro is the best desktop O/S available right now. I've also got a 26-core Xeon, ProxMox hypervisor for headless heavy lifting. Linux has its place, I just don't want its glitchy ass desktop experience ruining my day, making me write scripts and do workarounds for basic shit that comes for free (and better) in Windows.
>muh botnet
I just don't fucking care anymore. I'm running Intel chips, I'm screwed anyways.
▶ No.919344>>949888
>>919311
>I just don't fucking care anymore. I'm running Intel chips, I'm screwed anyways.
t. defeatist
▶ No.919982>>920054 >>920060
>>919311
>Stuff that Just Works
>I'm unironically saying that Windows 10 Pro is the best desktop O/S
>I just don't want its glitchy ass desktop experience ruining my day, making me write scripts and do workarounds for basic shit that comes for free (and better) in Windows
Go away, shill. Nobody will believe your shit.
▶ No.920054
>>919982
>believe
Facts don't care about your beliefs.
▶ No.920060>>920087
>>919982
He's right you fucking shitbrain faggot. You fucking moronic freetards are one reason why I don't miss Linux at all. One of the shittiest possible associations on planet.
t. >>918499 & >>918969
▶ No.920087
>>920060
>wahhhh
>muh community
good, go suck the microdong
▶ No.920090
>>919153
>people will install windows 10 and copy/paste this as an argument
▶ No.920091
>>919278
lol kill yourself
▶ No.920456>>920458 >>920543
>>918678
>>919089
>>918817
>Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB
>on a desktop
<requires volume licensing agreement
<no updates; 2-3 year release cycle
<won't get Windows Subsystem for Linux until 2019
<designed for POS and device controllers
Nope. Windows 10 Pro, then run a simple Powershell script to uninstall the built-in apps.
>>917959
This post gave me PTSD. There's greener pastures waiting, friend.
▶ No.920458>>920477 >>920481
>>920456
I just recently started learning PowerShell and man is it significantly better at doing what a scripting and command language is supposed to do, and that's automation of the OS. You can easily format output by piping to formatting cmdlets for example. As opposed to "MUH UNIX WAY!" which was apparently trying to re-create C as a scripting language
The only thing Linux actually objectively does do better than Windows is the *nix way of "Everything is a file" is a lot simpler than the Windows way of "Everything is an API" especially when it comes to driver interfaces, but that's literally all I can think of. Freetards like to boast about DE autism but at the end of the day that's more or less superfluous
▶ No.920459>>920463 >>920497 >>930867 >>941658
I just want Poettering out.
It got so bad SystemD proved Stallman's definition of free software is incomplete, because SystemD managed to not only control its users, but also control the users of other programs even though it technically qualifies as free software.
It's literally a proprietary invasion of free software and its users are cultlike, they probably go jedi mindtricked.
I might just fucking swap to some BSD derivative because I just want to have a working shitpost machine without built in CIA-Niggers.
▶ No.920463>>967591
>>920459
If you do switch, do note that browsers like Firefox/Chromium depend on poetteringware. SeaMonkey doesn't (for now) - try Lynx/w3m/Links+/NetSurf too.
▶ No.920475
>>917460
>>917464
>mfw using debian + xfce at work
▶ No.920477
>>920458
Agreed on all points. I've been doing the reverse, learning Bash to automate interactions with my virtual machines. >>919311
It's better than old-school DOS batch, but that's not saying much. It's an annoying feeling to forego proper use of data structures and revert to string manipulations for everything. It's hard to resist the urge to write it all in Python; I want to avoid the startup times.
▶ No.920481
>>920458
How to do batch file handling in PowerShell hooked to external program? I'm still using bash to do my imagemagick and ffmpeg tricks where it's dead simple.
▶ No.920497>>920510
>>920459
but anon, nobody forces you to use sysemd ^<^.
you are free to install whatever init manager you want.
▶ No.920510>>920513
>>920497
I'm precisely against systemd because I am not free to install a different init manager.
I don't care about GNOME being garbage because I can just install any other DE or WM I want and it'll sit in its corner being shit by itself. If I want to remove GNOME from ubuntu I can just uninstall it with apt, for instance.
I care about SystemD and other assorted poetteringware being garbage because the choice I do have is using a different distro entirely if I want to use an alternative to it. And poetteringware still fucks me over because it keeps becoming a hard dependency on things I do care about for no reason other than Poettering wanting his shit forced down everyone's throat, and few distros are stepping up to it.
▶ No.920513
>>920510
Well you have access to source be a happy hacker fuck Micr0s$h|t fuck evil Pötering yay GNU ¡viva Stallaman! stop complaiing lmao haha ^___^
▶ No.920543>>920579
>>920456
>minimal googling
You motherfucker. I hope you die in a pool of your own vomit. Any fucking windows error consists of a retarded hexadecimal number without explanation, which when you look it up, you're met with a myriad of retarded generic solutions like sfc /scannow, chkdsk, reformat and reinstall, system restore, etc.
Also after god knows how many fucking years Winders STILL CAN'T GET A GODDAMN PROPER DARK THEME (my eye doctor told me to avoid bright colors), and high contrast fucks up input fields. Microshaft even went out of their fucking way to remove theming from their newest OS, requiring 3rd party crapware to re-enable it.
What's worse, Microshaft admitted their own fucking forced updates can trash your system. If that's not the pinnacle of shit I don't know what it is.
Fucking gas yourself shill
▶ No.920579>>920587 >>930803 >>930916 >>949093 >>965413
>>920543
<msdn.com, search for "0xc000021a Windows 10"
<gets a specific list of troubleshooting steps, written by an 8x Microsoft "MVP"
How is this harder than troubleshooting a Linux boot loop or BSOD? The particular error code you posted has to do with missing system files, so yeah, stuff like `sfc /scannow` is totally appropriate.
Also,
>not making incremental backups using Macrium Reflect, or even just Windows restore points
Absolutely pleb tier. Drop off your computer at the closest Geek Squad, or better yet, sell it and buy a Mac.
>my eye doctor told me to avoid bright colors
>refuses to spend $10 on Window Blinds
Your eyes are worth more than that, and its not a lot of money for a really nice piece of software. Not everything in life is free; some developer worked hard on that software.
>Microshaft even went out of their fucking way to remove theming from their newest OS
I doubt that. They do provide a "Dark Mode" which darkens all of the built-in modern Win10 apps, but legacy stuff like the file manager will need some low-level tinkering. You could hack it yourself by replacing certain .dll files, but it's safer (and worth it) to just pay $10 for a piece of software that does it for you (and provides a platform for theme creators).
▶ No.920587>>920588
>>920579
>You could hack it yourself by replacing certain .dll files, but it's safer (and worth it) to just pay $10 for a piece of software that does it for you (and provides a platform for theme creators).
I want unironic shills to leave.
▶ No.920588>>920893
>>920587
>spending money is bad
Do the math. Figure out how much your time is worth per hour, multiple it by the number of hours you'll spend fixing a bootloop caused by a corrupt .dll, and then subtract it by $10. That's how much you profited by buying the software up front.
▶ No.920861>>920862 >>920878
x86(_64) Motherboards without ME (or equivalent), Windows versions older than 10 and systemd-less Linux distros have all one thing in common - that their days are numbered, and that their relevance is expected to plummet anywhere past 2020.
▶ No.920862
>>920861
>that their relevance is expected to plummet anywhere past 2020
It's pretty lowish even now. When someone in $CURRENT_YEAR says "I'm going to get a laptop and dual-boot Windows and Linux on it" there's more than 80% chance that the laptop will have ME, the Windows installed will be 10 and the Linux installed will have systemd.
▶ No.920878
>>920861
anti-systemD and freetard approved distros were never about market share anyways. I mean , there's probably more of them than there are BSD users, how the fuck are BSD devs so motivated? Oh right, because companies actually give them attention because their non-cuck license attracts companies so it keeps them going
▶ No.920893>>920943
>>918233
Their notifications are SHIT out of the box. Seriously. I want an OS that doesn't get in the way. I want shit to only annoy me when it is URGENT, not when there's some minimal shit happening on the background. MS has always done this, but somehow W10 is worse with it. FFS, it stops everything when UAC kicks in, and low battery signal goes straight to the forefront. Fuck that.
>>920588
Man I thought /tech/ was too irrelevant of a board for shills to come here.
▶ No.920943
>>920893
>I want an OS that doesn't get in the way.
OpenBSD + dwm
▶ No.920944>>920993
>>917381 (OP)
>a calculator that takes up 3/4 of the screen with no option to put it back to normal
>everywhere touchscreen interface garbage for normies that alienates power users
What's not to love?
▶ No.920946>>920990 >>920998
I only run Windows in a VM and it's still scary looking at how aggressively it's trying to rape the user. It feels like one of those horror sci-fi movies where you have a virus contained in your biohazard lab but there's still that tension that it's going to break free at any moment.
▶ No.920990>>920993 >>921004
>>920946
jesus fucking christ
I've been Winber (windows sober) for almost three years now.
So glad.
▶ No.920993>>921078
>>920944
This. Any calculator app without a splash screen is a hackjob excuse of a program.
>>920990
Literally have to use Win10 for work. JUST.
▶ No.920998>>921003
▶ No.921003
>>920998
fiddler showing fiddling.
▶ No.921004>>921078 >>921093
>>920990
>I've been Winber (windows sober)
I physically cringed just now
▶ No.921014
>>917381 (OP)
I would ALMOST run osx over this shit. that's how bad win10 fucked up.
Still not buying mac though.
▶ No.921078
>>920993
>Literally have to use Win10 for work. JUST.
Does it atleast pay well?
>>921004
>I physically cringed just now
so what's the next step of your master plan?
▶ No.921093
▶ No.921109
>>917381 (OP)
By tricking millions of retards in to installing the windows update. All of whom regret it, but are too stupid to figure out how to go back to their old OS.
▶ No.930737>>949093
>>917398
lolno
ME > 7 > XP >>> the rest
▶ No.930803
>>920579
>recommending anyone to geeksquad
I hope you enjoy random folks exploring your computer for malicious activity or CP in the name of protecting freedom.
▶ No.930867
>>920459
Or just install gentoo. That not a meme anymore.
There is voidlinux etc..
A shit tone of alternatives.
▶ No.930871
This thread is full of /g/ migrants who can't adapt themselves to the culture of this board.
So they simply reject it, and try to prove to everyone how elitist we are, and how using windows is totaly fine.
They seem to not understand, that since it's closed source, unselecting anything, or twerking with registry will not change anything if Microsoft have decided your computer will be theirs.
Now, if you work in the industry, if you're a programmer, and you still spread your ass to be fucked by it, it just shows how much of a faggot you are.
These people are faggots. They have weak minds, weak will. They're ready to destroy everything to make everyone agree with them. Just get the fuck out of here. Go use your windows somewhere else. You can use every single piece of placebo you can, with stolen powershell, or with vim inside gui, you'll all still be faggots.
I actually don't even care you exist; you're just mindless like a lot of others, like animals, but don't shit on my fucking board.
▶ No.930894>>930930
nOS >>>>>>> Windows 10
Release date: Fall 2021
Watch this space.
▶ No.930905
>>917387
Hey kid, here's a nickel. Buy yourself a web browser, the only piece of relevant software that 99.999% of people need.
▶ No.930913
>>917598
No you can't. Just some of it.
▶ No.930916>>930933 >>930953 >>931359
>>918519
>150 million lines of code
How fucking big is the W10 source with that many lines? Several TB?
Is that why it's never been fully leaked?
>>920579
>Windows problem
<search for a fix
<have to sift through hundred of bogus windows optimizer ads and Youtube tutorials made by 12 year olds
<solution: "lel jsut reinstall <X>/download this ebin Windows cleaner/run sfc scannow adn ten reboot xD"
>Linux problem
<search for a fix
<find forum entries for a bunch of different distros
<narrow it down to the specific package/application that is likely to be causing the issue based on reading prior posts
<find some more specific forum entries for said application
<read the manpage to make sure the forum isn't full of shit
<edit some config files via CLI, check the terminal output afterwords to make sure everything werks as intended
<???
<werks
▶ No.930930
>>930894
$<[[nos]]->GUI->*.
$<[[threading]]->*.
$<[[network]]->*.
$<[[iteration]]->while.
$<[[timer]]->set_interval.
;;-> Simple IRC Client
This uses asynchronous and threaded code to create a simple GUI
application (an IRC client).
<-;;
to_gui: $->Channel(string).
to_irc: $->Channel(string).
irc_async := %({{ async }} ->
socket := await $->new_socket {"irc.freenode.net" 6667}.
$->while {%(bool -> true) %(->
data := socket->read_line!.
has := await data->with_timeout 100
has?? to_gui->send data->read.
to_chan->has_data!?? await socket->send await to_chan->read_line!.
)}.
).
irc_main := %({{ thread }} ->
irc_async!->wait_for.
).
gui_main := %({{ thread }} ->
window := $->new_window {
default_size = [640 480]
resizable = true
children = [
$->new_box {
orientation = horizontal
on_create = %({@this} ->
this->pack_start {
$->new_text_view {
editable = false
monospace = true
wrap_mode = word_char
on_create = %({@this} ->
$->set_interval {1000/60 %(->
to_gui->has_data?? (
data: string = to_gui->read_line!.
this->get_buffer!->append data.
)}.
)
}
expand = true
fill = true
}.
this->pack_start {
$->new_text_input {
on_activate = %({@this text: string} ->
to_irc->send text.
this->set_text "".
).
expand = false
fill = false
}.
}.
)
}
]
}.
window->waitForClose!.
).
open to_gui.
to_irc->open!.
irc_thread := $->newThread irc_main.
gui_thread := $->newThread gui_main.
gui_thread->join!.
WATCH THIS SPACE
▶ No.930933>>955800
>>930916
Windows 10 is too big to fit on any consumer-grade hardware, so when you need a special component or driver, it has to go install it from Microsoft's servers. That's why it's always updating shit and making you restart your computers.
▶ No.930935>>932141 >>949093
>>917403
I trust a reverse engineered program more than I trust open source unoptimized garbage.
▶ No.930953
>>930916
Microsoft doesn't reward Windows developers who optimize code, make things faster, reduce code complexity, etc. They reward people who make stupid features that Microsoft thinks will sell more copies of Windows.
▶ No.931359
>>930916
>Windows problem
What you just described was you searching for game cracks circa early 2000's. You old broke piece of shit, well done.
▶ No.932093>>933431
I really like Win10 honestly, applications work really well and actually close when you close them.
▶ No.932141
>>930935
>reverse engineered program
Windows 10 can be updated when they want, and so include whatever spyware they want at any time
>REVERSE FUCKING ENGINEERED
Go back to /g/.
▶ No.932144>>932363
lol latest Win10 update just removed the ability for Powershell to uninstall default applications (which it fucking calls "apps" like it's a fucking mobile device, *SIGH*) and, of course, reinstalled all the fucking applications you previously removed.
If you're a normie and have Win10, your computer doesn't belong to you. It belongs to Microsoft.
▶ No.932152>>933072
>>917454
accurate
I tried Win3.1 in a VM and it surprisingly tried to turn my CPUs to toast, maxing them out continually. I'm guessing it was some discrepancy between the 64bit CPU emulating an 8bit.OS. Or I was blind and missed some setting.
▶ No.932260
>>917381 (OP)
Because this >>917460
They shilled for that porpoise with the new DirectX but is not even needed
>New system new everything is soo good we are going to force you to use it!!!!11
>>917394
It is
▶ No.932363
>>932144
>works for me
Filed under PEBCAK.
▶ No.933072>>933130
>>932152
http://www.scampers.org/steve/vmware/ - WQGHLT, of course. Same reason you need Rain for 9x.
▶ No.933083
I like how it constantly thrashes your hard drive for malware but never finds Windows 10. Bonus points for creating a new partition so it fucks up your bootloader on an "important" update.
▶ No.933105>>933109 >>933112 >>933431 >>941609 >>965914 >>965962
The only problem I have is performance suffered so fucking hard on w10 at the cost of what looks like compatibility and functionality cause it does 'just work' unlike basic fucking Ubuntu. My shitter PC runs windows 7 2x times better then my better PC with w10. You need a really beefy computer to make windows useable.
▶ No.933109
>>933105
win7 no updates after win10 master race
*flop sweat*
▶ No.933112>>933166 >>933360
>>933105
<it does 'just work'
Bullshit.
>relative buys SSD, wants winders 10 on it
>HDD already has Winders
>install on SSD; everything goes smoothly
>Boot from SSD, get error about winload.efi missing
>no information or instructions on how to fix issue anywhere
Yeah, just werks, alright.
My hunch is Winders expects boot files on an EFI partition, but is too retarded to make an EFI partition on a new drive and tries to use the existing one on another drive.
Since partitions are apparently too complex or some shit and things must 'just werk', users don't get any choice and this shit happens.
▶ No.933166>>933188
>>933112
>Windorks 10 FAILED to stop me from borking the partition config
>BTFO Windopers XDDD
▶ No.933188>>933364 >>965958
>>933166
I had to REMOVE the HDD, and then INSTALL Winders to the SSD to make it work. What kind of shitty OS requires you to remove all other hard drives for installing?
Pic related is your face when you don't know how to read..
▶ No.933334
>>917458
there's vista bugs in windows 7 though. like if you mouse over the close button in device manager it will start spazzing out and keep blinking
▶ No.933357>>933510
Last decent Microsoft OS was XP.
Before that, I used 3.1, 95, 98, ME, and NT. Used 8 & 10 after XP.
Have been using Linux distros for the past 2 years.
Kept my Windows 10 to run Adobe Photoshop, Lightroom, and AfterEffects though because Wine seems glitchy.
I use MXLinux now as my main workhorse and I love it.
Trying to find an older laptop right now to run Kali off of. Not going to run it off a USB drive. No. Full install onto an SSD.
I run everything now off of SSDs.
▶ No.933360
>>933112
Stupid Pajeet - just run a straight image over - HDD to SSD through USB. Use Acronis.
▶ No.933364>>933388 >>933570
>>933188
You just don't know a shit about computers. What happened is your UEFI config was still pointing to old location of Windows bootloader. Would have happened with any OS.
Allowing leftypol sure drops quality of entire 8chan as it leaks retards to other boards..
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▶ No.933410
>>917403
>there are faggots unironically using Windows 10 on /tech/ in the CY+2
I have to correct you here. It's CY+3, that is, three years after 2015. 2015 was the most current year because it was the year that Justin Trudeau was elected and gave his "...because it's 2015!" response when asked why he used affirmative action to staff his cabinet. 2015 was essentially year zero, making it CY0. 2014 would be CY-1, I suppose.
▶ No.933431
>>932093
Tell me how much they pay you.
>>933105
>The only problem I have is performance suffered so fucking hard on w10 at the cost of what looks like a BOTNET
fixed that for you
▶ No.933509
>>917867
Idk about the Debian guy but my company uses centos on 700+ workstations and a lot more servers, a handful of things are dependent on windows servers but I barely have to touch those flaming shitpiles. There's a few windows and OSx machines, I hate windows 10 with every bone in my body. It's actually better than 7 performance wise but they fucking ruined everything about the UX in order to push their botnet crapware. I want the performance of windows 10 in the ease of use and streamlined, admin-friendly beauty of XP/7
▶ No.933510
>>933357
MX Linux
fuggin great DDDDD
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▶ No.933570
>>933364
No. Both Winders installs appeared in Winders's boot menu. Both drves were connected. Old one worked, new one didn't (missing winload.efi). So I removed the HDD, installed to SSD, and it worked.
What baffles me is the install on the SSD didn't create the EFI and MSR partitions. Why the fuck did MS think this was a good idea? Also fuck having to boot Winders to enter UEFI (99% of computers have all the fast boot shit enabled for cutting a massive 3 seconds off boot time)
▶ No.941292>>941296 >>941297 >>941340 >>945600
Apologies for blogposting in ancient threads but I need to vent:
>be student in STEM
>switched to loonix some years ago
>feels comfy, getting used to it
>read about all the win10 shit going on
>lmaoing @ poor windows 10 users
This was until some weeks ago...
>be writing thesis for my degree
>need to use some engineering framework suited for windows only
>already know that I'm gonna hate this, but no alternative
>get a PC from Uni with win10 and all needed software for my project
Holy shit, /tech/, how can that OS be so annoying and user unfriendly compared to win7?
>annoying animations all over the place
>ok, disable them all, fair enough
>notifications every few seconds
>turn them off, too
>butt ugly font rendering with washed out edges and random pixels all over the place
>wasn't that completely fine back then??
>getting severe eye cancer lookiing at the new win 10 font
>control center scattered all over the place
>wasted space everywhere
>sometimes "new" context menus with even uglier font and even more whitespace
>cancerous color scheming, no transparent icon backgrounds in the start menu available
>no legacy scheme anymore
>sometimes clickable buttons don't do anything when clicked, yet not grayed out
>wanna turn PC off; only options: "Update and Shutdown" or "Update and restart"
>who told you to download any updates anyway, fucker?
>need to install them, pray that this won't break my system as I'm using some special drivers for some special hardware
>restarting and updating with no progress bar or any indicator at all
>still praying
>boot into system again, mysteriously not fucked up
Maybe it helps that this is the Enterprise version on LTSB. I can't even imagine what the normalfag version is like.
Every time I see some old dialog like the old system settings panel, I really fucking miss win7. Crisp fonts, little wasted space, no "everything flat" ulgliness, no forced updates, no forced rebooting...and back then I thought win7 was bad...
/blogpost
▶ No.941296>>941301
>>941292
It's funny how a few years ago windows users laughed at linux font rendering, but now it's completely reversed.
>lol kek lmao he must install infinality font patches and edit fonts.conf to make his fonts bearable
>windows 10 comes along
>fonts look worse than on linux before freetype got better
>no way to fix it except to shell out for HDPI 4K screen to hide horrible hinting
>good goy buy windows 10 compatible displays and devices your monitor is obsolete and not windows 10 ready
▶ No.941297
>>941292
>butt ugly font rendering
>compared to loonix
wat. They do fonts really well. Compare Win10 and open sores:
https://unicode-table.com/en/
▶ No.941301
>>941296
Yeah, I'm on elementaryOS and the fonts are just absolutely perfect. Can't tell about other loonix flavours, though.
I could totally imagine that they want to force people onto high DPI screens. (((Enabling))) some sales, you know...The joke is that on the (low DPI) screen that I use with 1080p the old segoeUI font looks perfectly sharp even in 9pt (old control panel) whereas the font in the new "settings" abomination even at size 14pt (or so) looks absolutely horrible.
▶ No.941340>>942113
>>941292
>I hate configuring my O/S
>I prefer Linux
???????????????????????
▶ No.941519
You buttfaces DO realize that you can make a live WIn7 usb?
Just sayin.
▶ No.941608>>965413
>>917883
This right here.
Newfags are only bullying themselves by not being aware of how windows 7 is still a huge downgrade from windows xp, which is an achievement given how windows xp loved to either freeze for no reason or bluscreen.
▶ No.941609>>941623
>>933105
>You need a really beefy computer to make windows useable.
Is it not obvious enough?
OpenBSD's latest release runs on toasters from the time when 256MB of RAM was the norm. At 1080p (higher resolution = more RAM) it takes 55MB of RAM with the default window manager, and again if the machine is from the 256MB days the processor and whatever GPU it has are more than enough to drive the interface and accompanying basic utilities.
On windows' latest release we're looking at an OS that will eat 1 gig and a half of RAM by itself and by the time windows update decides to barge in a 2GB RAM system won't be able to hold it, nor will its CPU.
I can only wonder how much of that is operating system and how much of it is the US government mining buttcoin to fund its wars for Israel.
▶ No.941613>>941615
>try windows 10
>oh its not bad
>it freezed and blue screened twice while installing
>still loads bloatware that i dont feel like finding if its good or bad
im gonna try it for a month then switch to a linux distro for wardriving.
windows is garbage its not even worth learning the command prompt
▶ No.941615
>>941613
>it freezed and blue screened twice while installing
I can only imagine what your Pajeet build looks like.
▶ No.941623>>941629
>>941609
I almost threw my work computer out of the window this morning trying to figure out how to disable Windows Defender. It was eating up, literally, over a gig of RAM running some antimalware shit constantly. There's absolutely zero way to uninstall Defender - they baked it into the OS itself (like Cornada or whatever it's called). Even with administrative privledge I cannot change Windows Defender from "auto-start" to "manual start" . I'm so fucking done with this garbage I swear to christ.
▶ No.941629>>945721 >>965950
>>941623
You can technically disable windows defender with some group policy fuckery but then after a while it just enables itself again.
I have some tard relatives who can't live without windows so I did all the jazz I could to try to minimize the botnet as much as possible, which included disabling windows defender. They were the kind of person that will be completely unable to use a desktop if the start menu button isn't the windows symbol.
I told them to ask me to do it if they want something installed, and I installed everything needed to do every regular desktop task. I basically installed a free software program or replacement for anything they might want to do. Libreoffice, vlc, imageglass, paint.net. That stuff.
After a week one of them complained windows defender wasn't letting them run any program (some windows smartscreen fuckery that complained every time they tried to open anything), after another week another one of them complained their hard drive wouldn't stop spinning at max speed, which I discovered also was windows defender reenabling itself. At this point I already knew what was going to happen and gave up, I gave them the bullshit excuse of "that's just how computers are".
▶ No.941650>>941654 >>941656
We can just hope that this pajeet garbage-tier of an OS will go down and never come back. I suppose that some ex microshit employee still keeps the source of windows 2000 and we can start over from there as an open source project. The problem could be that with windows completely collapsing by some automatically installed update, the world wide food supply chains also collapse and we will starve to death, ricing our loonix machines.
▶ No.941652>>941754
>>917381 (OP)
If you had the time, patience and sufficient bad taste to do this, could you please run a performance test against Windows 7? At least so that we can see if the claims of better performance are actually true.
▶ No.941654
>>941650
That's why we rice linux my man.
So when society collapses we have a lifetime supply of rice.
▶ No.941656
>>941650
There is hope ReactOS will not stop development
▶ No.941658
>>920459
Void Linux and Artix are systemdicks and pulseaudio free.
▶ No.941754
>>941652
At this point, I genuinely don't care if windows 10 has faster or more efficient performance than windows 7. The entire design is anti-user. Even with administrative privledges, you can't uninstall their bloatware like the Xbox app. Think about how much disdain you'd have to have for your users to design an OS that forces you to have an Xbox application on your computer that you are not allowed to delete, even as admin. It's really not about performance but resepect for the end user.
▶ No.942113
>>941340
All I did on Ubuntu was install video card drivers and tweak wine to run some DX11 game.
▶ No.942135>>985417
>>917381 (OP) official shitposting thread
<Agreed
>How could anyone willingly use this?
The power of marketing, a lot of people actually think the updates they have done to this are actually necessary or useful
And people like this dont help
>>917386 >>917394
>In strict performance terms it is miles ahead of Windows 7
..How? everything i have tried to work there in compression is slower and the fake closing of things and fake shutting down of the system are just placebos for speed
▶ No.945600>>945605 >>965413
>>941292
>click shutdown
>it works
sorry I dont want to type ~sudo get shutdown manager kernel every time I go to bed
▶ No.945605>>945728
>>945600
>Wangblows
<click shutdown
<it installs updates for 2 hours
<power it up again
<it keeps installing updates for another hour
<have it run throughout the day
<work into the night
<Suddenly, "You're Computer needs to install important updates and will restart in 5 femtoseconds"
>Meanwhile on Ganoo/Loonix
<boot up distro
<distro checks for updates
<[X] Number of updates have been found, click here to install/run [CLI commands] to install updates
<don't install updates
<click shutdown
<shuts down
Even better is when a Wangblows update fails/crashes/experiences a power failure midway through it referts to a restore point and removes niggabytes of half-installed updates to preserve system integrity, but on Linux all you get at is a broken package at best or at worst a fug'd critical config file/setting, and even then you can easily revert to an earlier filesystem snapshot with btrfs and such.
▶ No.945617>>945879
▶ No.945679>>965915 >>965916
>>917381 (OP)
>How can Pajeetsoft™ not be bankrupt yet?
It has shifted it's focus away from selling copies of Windows and put a big focus on selling GNU/Linux service. Microsoft calls its GNU/Linux servers "Azure". The company I work for took Microsoft's sales bait, and my employer is moving a large portion of its previously self-hosted GNU/Linux applications to Microsoft's GNU/Linux servers. The company I work for is large, and I'm just a lowly software developer, so my strong opposition to the company's move onto Microsoft-owned GNU/Linux servers was largely ignored. A couple of people responded to my written concerns by arguing against me. One of these guys revealed himself to be a former Microsoft employee by starting his reply with, "When I was at Microsoft..."
▶ No.945717>>945834 >>945863 >>955259 >>955811
>>917464
I replaced Windows from my work computer with GNU/Linux.
Before I joined a big corporation, I was always disgusted by the response I got from friends when I suggested that they get rid of Windows and install GNU/Linux on their work computers. My friends would tell me, "I can't. It's a company computer." Fuck that shit. It's the computer you have to work on daily, so make it best suit your optimal productivity.
When I became a corporate lackey, I followed my own advice. Now when I friends they can't install GNU/Linux on their company computer, I tell them to shut the fuck up, because I did it.
I replaced Cisco AnyConnect with OpenConnect, replaced Skype For Business (a.k.a. Microsoft Lync) client with Pidgin + the pidgin-sipe plug-in, and replaced Microsoft Office with LibreOffice.
First, I spent a couple of months quietly observing all the programs in Windows that I was expected to use. Next, I found replacements for each program. Finally, after some testing with a dual-boot setup, I wiped Windows from the computer and completed my move to GNU/Linux.
Most people I know work best on GNU/Linux systems. I'm a better and happier worker when I'm not constantly aggravated by Microsoft's forced updates. When I turn my computer on in the morning and Microsoft's updates make me late for an audio conference with managers and bosses waiting for me, I get pissed.
Wiping Windows from your work computer, even when company policy forbids it, is following the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law. The company has rules in place because it wants you to keep company data secure, so use encryption. The company wants you to do your assigned tasks and fulfill your job functions with timeliness and good quality, so deliver that, but with an operating system that doesn't drive you insane.
It's been nearly a year that I've been using GNU/Linux at work. So far, it has gone undetected by my bosses even though I'm not hiding it in any way. One of these days, when it is discovered, if I get fired for using GNU/Linux at work, I'll take my ball sadly and go home without a fuss, but I'll toot my own horn a little here: I tend to go above and beyond what is expected of me at my job, much more so than my coworkers, so the company would be losing a pretty good worker.
▶ No.945721>>945847
>>941629
>disabling the anti-malware protection on normalfag relative's PC
>because he totally needed those 80-100 MBs
You deserve all the bullshit that comes your way.
▶ No.945728>>945755 >>946203
>>945605
>Automobile
<stuck in morning traffic
<dangerous; #4 most common cause of death per year
<change the oil every 3k miles
<runs on gasoline
<requires license, insurance, smog checks
>Bicycle
<can take the bike lane
<get to 7-11 on the corner in like 3 minutes
<keeps me in shape
<change a flat tire without a mechanic
<no gas required
<no license required
It's also a great co-worker icebreaker to discussing environmentally-friendly initiatives that we can all undertake as individuals to make the world a little less burdened with our presence.
▶ No.945755>>945855
>>945728
<no license required
oi m8 can I see your wheel licence?
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▶ No.945834>>945870 >>962960
>>945717
As much as they appreciate your extra work, they're not going to appreciate the liability due to your deviation from expected procedure. If something goes wrong and they find you've deviated from the procedure, they're going to hold you liable for the damages.
▶ No.945842>>945861
>How could anyone willingly use this?
They don't. Most normies checked out of Windows when it randomly shut off to update to Windows 10 and deleted all of their baby photos in the process. The few who still hung on after gave up when Windows would randomly reboot to apply updates. Normies use smartphones, tablets, and chromebooks now as a direct result, it is impressive that MS has lost most of the consumer market in as short as five years.
Anyway, MS did it because they don't care about consumer computing. They want to be an enterprise-only business where all their customers sign onto juicy tech support contracts along with their product. They don't care if picky private customers walk off because they can't get as much money from them.
▶ No.945847>>945986
>>945721
anti-malware shit slows your PC down and introduces vulns, fucktard. you have no idea how that industry works. it's literally webdevs who think they are scientists because they opened something in IDA Pro and saw a socket() function call and a string saying "lol this is malware". in practice all the idiots who get malware have it regardless of whether they run antivirus
▶ No.945855
▶ No.945861
>>945842
>They want to be an enterprise-only business
But that's easier to do if all the cattle are used to their products and only their products.
That's how they dominated the desktop PC market, people grew up using windows and windows only to the point where they simply couldn't adapt to anything else to save their lives until smartphones became a thing and desktop PCs became irrelevant.
▶ No.945863>>945873 >>945885 >>955261 >>955308 >>965917 >>965919 >>985397
>>945717
IT guy here. As much as I fucking hate windows, you better not actually install linux on your work laptop. I'd immediately disable your accounts (not that you can login anyway) and send an email to your boss telling them all the extra work you caused me for no reason. I'd have to re-image your laptop at the minimum which means at least half a day of lost productivity for you at the minimum, costing the company money.
▶ No.945870>>946127
>>945834
>If something goes wrong and they find you've deviated from the procedure, they're going to hold you liable for the damages.
I'm prepared to take that fall without a fuss. The fact that I fulfill my job functions well is something for me to take personal satisfaction in. If I'm fired for my blatant disregard for the letter of the law in favor of the spirit of the law, I'll accept the blame, justified or not. I'll be sad and I'll miss the pay and benefits, but at least I'll have some remaining pride to buffer the impact.
▶ No.945873>>945880 >>965918
>>945863
How the fuck does re-imaging take half a day.
▶ No.945879>>948828
>>945617
It's not there yet, but fuck me if the devs haven't been making a lot of progress since they migrated the code to GitHub
▶ No.945880>>945881
>>945873
Hell I've seen it run overnight and not be finished in the morning. Old as fuck hardware running the pxe server, asstons of machines being imaged at the same time, any number of things.
▶ No.945881>>946128
>>945880
Oh yeah not to mention that as soon as you login to the domain, it'll get hit with thousands of updates that require a bunch of restarts.
▶ No.945885>>945886 >>965931
>>945863
>I'd have to re-image your laptop at the minimum which means at least half a day of lost productivity for you at the minimum, costing the company money.
More engagement from the desktop/laptop folks is exactly what I want. I'd love to have a discussion about the user's four essential software freedoms with those guys. I hoped for such a discussion with the desktop/laptop engineers when I requested permission to install GNU/Linux a year ago. They brushed my request off and said it would never happen. I'm ready to fall on my sword for principle and for the small chance that it will make my bosses and coworkers think about why I did it. And maybe they'll rethink the policy. It doesn't matter that they don't change their minds, only that they thought about it seriously, even if for just a split second. I hope I leave an otherwise good impression when I'm gone, perhaps even a little fondness for the dolt who was always eager to volunteer himself to take on more work and did a pretty good job.
▶ No.945886
>>945885
My manager's previous job was detailing cars at a car wash. My company decided it was a good idea to hire him as IT manager for some reason. The local vice president who is above all of us managed to misspell the name of the city we work in on a powerpoint he gave to the COO. You're clearly smart enough to understand to keep your head down, so maybe that's what you should do.
▶ No.945986
>>945847
I worked a tech bench for years and dealt with fallout from retards such as yourself every day. The PCs that get malware infections are, 99% of the time, not running ANY protection software, or their 1337 h4ck3r family members disabled it or the update process from running in the background to save those tens of megabytes. Also, you don't seem to be familiar with the detection methods implemented.
▶ No.946117>>946119
Used 95 > 98 > ME > XP > Vista and am currently on 7. I'm about to be shoehorned into 10 for proper coffee lake support on the new build I'm putting together, so tell me /tech/, how bad is it really, and to what level can I unfuck it to at least resemble a 'classic' gui modded 7?
▶ No.946119>>946121
▶ No.946121
>>946119
Came on one of the new sony vaio PCs I was gifted as a kid.
▶ No.946127>>946174
>>945870
Being fired is the least of your worries. You should be worried about your damage costs that affect any part of the business whether it be internal processes, external business relationships, or customer business. Their insurance company is going to go after you personally and if you don't have the millions to cover liability damages.
▶ No.946128
>>945881
Good old Windows and its restart to update system.
▶ No.946174>>946241
>>946127
The first thing I ask when I commit to an action like this: does it significantly increase the risk of hurting others? I've thought long and hard about this one. Based on my observations, and the observations of several of my closest coworkers, I'm providing better security on my work computer than what the company's desktop/laptop engineers provide, so I'm actually helping in a small way. My conclusion: no, I'm probably not endangering anyone else. I can proceed.
The second thing I ask myself: does this significantly increase the risk of hurting myself? Maybe.
Since there is a potential that I'll be hurt in the end, I also ask, is it worth it? My conclusion: yes.
▶ No.946203>>946215 >>946615
>>945728
Going further with this the Cyclist and his bike would be covered in varying amounts of ramshackle armor made out of kevlar, chobham and mahogany wood all autistically arranged as to not collapse in on themselves while the Automobile would have 20 stickers for airbag regulations printed on the side of the dashbag but the airbag itself requires a subscription-based loicense else it won't fire in the event of an accident.
The Automobile itself would appear shiny and futuristic from a distance but when you get closer you see it's just repainted parts from various decades glued together by duct tape, loose screws and chemical substances of indeterminate origin all arranged in a way that makes repairing the damn thing a nightmare while voiding 12 warranties and breaking multiple intellectual property laws because the EULA said so.
▶ No.946215>>946615
>>946203
>the dashboard itself is just an inflated bag with cheap chinkshit LCD screens pretending to be manual instrumentation glued on, and the steering wheel is a remote with an accelerometer+gyroscope wirelessly connected to the steering assembly
▶ No.946241>>962479
>>946174
I don't doubt that your way is better. It doesn't matter to a judge whether your way with Lignux and your service is objectively superior, what matters is where the lawyers can prove liability. I can assure you, your work as as an IT expert does not override hammer of liability because that liability will point towards you.
▶ No.946615>>946643
>>946203
>>946215
>resorting to the absurd in order to construct a metaphor supporting Linux
▶ No.946643>>971091
>>946615
>he doesn't know about the BSD/Tank
>he doesn't know about the A E S T H E T I C 400bhp Amigamobile with manual transmission
▶ No.948736>>948822
>finish build
>install windows 10 pro
>candy crush and mickey mouse all over my fucktarded touchscreen tablet gui start menu
Why is this allowed?
▶ No.948799
>>919089
Ancile is old and wonky, and I don't think the project is even active anymore. It's easier to switch the OS.
▶ No.948822
>>948736
Because we killed the man who tried to save us.
▶ No.948827
>>917381 (OP)
They make 99.91% of their revenue from enterprises. All enterprises have to migrate to Windows 10 by 2020 IIRC since Pajeetsoft and Shintel (to be fair, AMD probably also) colluded to not support Windows 7 automatic updates at a hardware level.
▶ No.948828
>>945879
I should install ReactOS on my work laptop and say that I'm running Windows 2000 on a VM.
▶ No.949093>>949095
>>917394
It is.
>>917398
Kill yourself you fucking shill.
>>920579
>shilling Windows Blinds
Get the fuck out you ni/g/ger.
>>930737
ME is usually considered an awful edition of Windows, dude.
>>930935
>shilling closed-source this badly
Get the fuck out. >>>/g/
▶ No.949095>>949106 >>949113
>>949093
Nobody cares about muh open sores. Aren't you supposed to be browsing this page with an email reader, richard?
▶ No.949106>>949111
>>949095
>hating on open source this much
Are you one of those /pol/ idiots that hates marxism so much you hate open source software just for being voluntary, communal efforts?
Anyway, you sound like the kind of idiot that doesn't code, so, get >>>/out/?
▶ No.949111>>949116
>>949106
Unlike you autistic faggots, I don't assign moral status to what the creator of code decides to do with it.
▶ No.949113>>949118
>>949095
>Nobody cares about muh open sores.
>on /tech/
Nigger, you best be joking.
And try not to post like a SJW ("muh open sores" is more than a little reminiscent of "muh freeze peach").
▶ No.949116>>949118
>>949111
This moron was claiming that he trusts Windows 10 closed source more than open source "unoptimized garbage." It's the most retarded fucking shilling I've read kek.
▶ No.949118>>949125 >>949132
>>949116
Which is a retarded stance to take, but in the general case, there is no moral benefit to open sores.
>>949113
>implying your little autist board is significant, statistically or otherwise
And i'll stop using that term once you stop lionizing people like RMS.
▶ No.949125>>949130
>>949118
The benefit to open source is that someone else can look at your shit and go "wow this shit would be so much better if..." and then make something better out of it. That shit happens a lot in the open source community. Of course the opposite also happens, where people fix what wasn't broken, but then you can just fork whatever they didn't rape (or help yourself to delicious open source drama). The thing about open source is being able to look at how your shit runs and having the option to change it how you want and then share your changes, and having them do the same and so on.
The other benefit of open source is that compiling your own software can produce a binary better optimized for your computer's architecture than precompiled shit. The speed boost is real, esp. when a recompile remedies a shitty bottleneck.
▶ No.949126
>>917430
That's what happened at where I worked at! So THAT explains it. They are straight abandoning SCCM now.
▶ No.949130>>949135
>>949125
>The benefit to open source is that someone else can look at your shit and go "wow this shit would be so much better if..." and then make something better out of it.
Theoretically, yes. But in the real world, the maintainers close your request with a curt response, leaving you to maintain a side fork if you like your change (i.e. a significant maintenance burden).
Or, more likely, nobody's actually looking at that code in the first place despite its importance and proliferation (see also Heartbleed).
And don't even get me started on the sorry state of documentation in open sores land. At least in enterprise, there's generally someone being paid to do that kind of shit so it actually fucking gets done.
▶ No.949132
>>949118
>implying your little autist board is significant, statistically or otherwise
So where the fuck are you from, son? Reddit? Halfchan? Do tell.
>And i'll stop using that term once you stop lionizing people like RMS.
/tech/ is not a hivemind, dude. I'm not one of his fanboys, although I do think he's done good work (GPL3 being a more debatable thing though). And most of that idolizing shit is pretty tongue-in-cheek, afaict.
But in general, yeah, people do like open source, because people here tend to be programmers and tinkerers, and that's what open source does best: let you reprogram and tinker.
▶ No.949134>>949148 >>962956
>>917381 (OP)
It's an abomination. Got my laptop stolen a few months ago and had to buy a new one. Of course it came with Windows 10 and of course it's even shittier than I initially thought i was. Everything is distracting and counter-productive, would it be the random "hints and advises" on the login screen, its constant hunger for data mining ("do you like this desktop image? Yes/No"), "Cortana" "helping" running you through the installation process like you're some retard, or its backward file management:
>Double clicks a file
>I don't know how to open this, do you want to browse the online store?
>No.
>Okay, pick one of these common applications to open this type of file.
>It's none of them, show me more.
>Okay, here are some more installed on your computer.
>It's none of them, let me browse for applications.
>Here's the browse button, I'll drop you wherever I feel like it, have fun.
>Search for the program, double click the item and HoFuckIForgotToClickAlwaysUseThisApplicationInTheFuture.jpg
>Has to do the whole stuff all over again.
Why not take up to five steps to do something that previous versions of Windows managed to do in one? It's so fucking painful to use I regret buying that computer. I still have the off-line desktop and an old on-line laptop running Linux; It was sufficient. I didn't need a fancy new computer that bad. Publishers, Steam and DRMs disgusted me from video games. Why did I buy this thing. I turned it on maybe three times for the past six months.
▶ No.949135>>949140
>>949130
>Theoretically, yes. But in the real world, the maintainers close your request with a curt response, leaving you to maintain a side fork if you like your change (i.e. a significant maintenance burden).
And then you hop on IRC and get one of them to take another look at it and approve it, or if they're fags you just post up your fork for other people to use if they want and at least enjoy the fact that your shit runs better than the original software did.
If it was closed source the whole thing generally gets pre-empted from stage 1 because you didn't get to redo source code. Maybe you hacked up a binary or executable, but that shit is even less likely to get integrated into the official software by devs.
▶ No.949140>>949148
>>949135
>And then you hop on IRC and get one of them to take another look at it and approve it,
And get banned for harassment.
>or if they're fags you just post up your fork for other people to use if they want
And spend the remainder of time rebasing that change on their releases, assuming of course they don't go out of their way to ruin my fork.
You live in a magical dream world that assumes OSS is a meritocracy and that people have unlimited time. Neither of those are true. That dream was doomed the moment its roots were put down in academia, and modern political sensitivities are trying their hardest to drive nails into its coffin.
>If it was closed source the whole thing generally gets pre-empted from stage 1 because you didn't get to redo source code.
Except this kind of green-field "Hey, wouldn't it be nice if.." type hacking is very, very rare. Nowadays, you join up with some project that has a thousand unaddressed bugs and requests on an issue tracker and pick something there. You only have to get shit you spent a bunch of time on rejected, making your effort meaningless, before you decide to never do that again.
▶ No.949148>>949150
>>949134
Just install Linux/Unix/minix3/OpenVMS/whatever, man. Your PC has windows 10 cancer to the point that you already refuse to use it, so replace it with something else already.
>>949140
>And get banned for harassment.
Then they're fags and it's an interesting question what was so appealing about their software in the first place. Usually these types don't produce good software so why were you even wasting time on it in the first place.
>And spend the remainder of time rebasing that change on their releases, assuming of course they don't go out of their way to ruin my fork.
If it's worth it to keep updating for every edition, sure. If your current version does what you need best anyway or you'd rather make your own changes than update, go ahead.
>You live in a magical dream world that assumes OSS is a meritocracy
Not all OSS projects are the kind of cancer you describe, though.
>That dream was doomed the moment its roots were put down in academia, and modern political sensitivities are trying their hardest to drive nails into its coffin.
Aren't those academia types pretty much incapable of real programming? How is their software worth bothering with in the first place anyhow?
>Except this kind of green-field "Hey, wouldn't it be nice if.." type hacking is very, very rare.
Nah, still happens loads.
You just sound like you've had shitty OSS experiences (github-related, I imagine - SJWy types and fags of all stripes really seem to congregate there) and somehow gotten burned on the entire idea of open source because of that, which is a little over the top to me.
▶ No.949150>>949876
>>949148
>Usually these types don't produce good software so why were you even wasting time on it in the first place.
See, there's that subtext again that good means free of SJWism. SJW entryism, if not SJW mindset, has infected a number of legitimately good projects and tools.
>You just sound like you've had shitty OSS experiences (github-related, I imagine - SJWy types and fags of all stripes really seem to congregate there) and somehow gotten burned on the entire idea of open source because of that, which is a little over the top to me.
You're not wrong, but getting involved in most other mediums is a waste of time. You won't be noticed (yeah, yeah, I know, egocentric as fuck, but OSS contributions are good resume fodder) or make any kind of a difference on Joe Blow's project-specific phabricator instance.
I want to work on a team on a project like this, but I want that team to be free of faggotry. So far having no luck.
▶ No.949876
>>949150
Point taken on the entryism.
If you just want a github alternative that's going to be SJW-free, I recommend https://gitgud.io/. It's the gamergate gitlab, and SJWs think of gamergate as the devil (plus they're obsessed with SJW purity tests) so it's likely to stay SJW-free for a long time.
When it comes to building a resume, I'd sooner recommend switching back to www.sourceforge.net, an oldie but a classic. They stopped bundling adware cancer into their installers after sourceforge and slashdot were sold to a new owner (who immediately removed the adware and made it clear they will never re-implement that). Slashdot community overlaps fairly strongly with sourceforge community and is also largely anti-SJW (they view SJW shit as undermining meritocracy and a fucking nuisance). Overall there's still a massive amount of well-respected projects on sourceforge and SF still carries strong name recognition.
But I would stay away from github, yes. You run into too many SJWs, incompetents, and other parasites if you're not controlling the project yourself (and even then they will try to inject themselves), so it's not worth investing serious programming time and effort into. Programmers want to code, not deal with drama and other completely asinine shit.
▶ No.949888
>>919344
>le defeatist xD
Opinion discarded
▶ No.951884>>951886 >>954875
>>917381 (OP)
As much as windozefags keep denying it, Windows right now is really shit. It's downright inexcusable from any poinnt of view.
I unironically switched to Gahnoo/Linux just because I couldn't stand Windows anymore.
▶ No.951886>>951898
>>951884
>It's downright inexcusable from any poinnt of view.
It's by far the least shitty Os avaliable, which makes the entire excusable/not excusable distinction pointless.
Even if you use your Os only to make a political statement, you have macOs which is so proprietary it's only sold coupled with certain hardware and won't run well if at all on other hardware, and a large amount of Linux flavours that succumbed to systemd and similarly inexcusable power plays.
▶ No.951898>>951973 >>952033
>>951886
Unbelievably low-IQ post.
▶ No.951973
>>951898
Incredible post-IQ post.
▶ No.952033
>>951898
If you have to make such a pointless comment, at least sage
▶ No.954875>>954876
>>951884
Yeah it's mostly vendorlock keeping people on Windows these days. Usage is falling off pretty hard and the new OSs are cancerous in entirely too many ways.
▶ No.954876
>>954875
>the new OSs
Just to be clear, I mean the new Windows OSs. Windows has always been cancerous yet it's gotten way the fuck worse as of late.
▶ No.954893>>954894 >>955581
I've been spoiled enough to use linux at my first full-time programming job and sidestep our incompetent helpdesk by being able to install my own programs and fix my own problems.
We've been acquired by a much larger corporation. Despite claiming they wouldn't make any large changes in the first two years, they've started gimping windows and mac users immediately by placing checks for certain actions on each OS. For mac users this means waiting 15-30 minutes for a helpdesk ticket to be resolved each time administrative privileges are required. For windows this means disabling flash drives, requiring an argument with helpdesk to install any software, and soon any action using admin privileges will demand an explanation(or abort if it's a blacklisted action) and potentially take a screenshot/video to log what the user was doing when they used that action. When they find out many devs have jumped to linux to avoid these limitations and the instability of the software enforcing them, I expect bad things will happen to my machine.
I'm currently working to get my resume, portfolio, and connections together to abandon ship when this happens. Even if the next job limits me to windows or mac, I can at least look for something with a slightly higher wage to compensate.
I know eventually all small businesses will either be destroyed or acquired by larger ones with barriers to entry preventing new competition from popping up. I just hope I'll never see this in my lifetime.
▶ No.954894>>954953 >>955808
>>954893
Why are so many users here pathological liars?
▶ No.954953
>>954894
Because it's far more efficient/sensible to lie than it is to speak the truth in the current world.
▶ No.955259
>>945717
If this is true, I admire your spirit. As long as using GNU/Linux on your work PC makes you more productive, go for it. If merely using a different, albeit superior tool to do your job eventually gets you fired, who cares. Principles still matter for some people.
However, not to give you false hopes, but in my experience if an employee gets a lot of shit done, and done well, his boss will think twice before firing him regardless of the supposed reason unless he's retarded.
▶ No.955261
>>945863
If you're that worried about your company "finding out", just install Linux on a USB drive and boot from it.
You don't have to rely on a shitty Windows host (which you would still have to deal with in case of a VM) and it will go undetected if they, for any reason, inspect your computer.
▶ No.955581
>>954893
Yeah there's definitely an added benefit in running Linux in how it avoids corporate red tape and helldesk. Most of the time if you run Linux helldesk will tell you you're on your own, which is exactly what you want.
▶ No.955800
>>930933
which is reason alone to not trust it. It's a shame that because of this, we will probably never see a 10-lite even though people may intend to make one. They want to turn everyone into a panopticon of fat-thin clients.
▶ No.955808
>>954894
>Make a blogpost about my boring life
>Someone thinks it's interesting enough to call a lie
Thank you for the compliment, anon.
▶ No.955811
>>945717
I'd fire you out of a cannon.
▶ No.955841>>955842 >>955854 >>955994
I'm actually glad that windows 8 and 10 were failures. It might actually force people to finally abandon microsoft, and if they don't they're punished with having to use windows all the time.
▶ No.955842
>>955841
windows 8.1 was kinda comfy tbf
▶ No.955854>>956116 >>962488
>>955841
> It might actually force people to finally abandon microsoft
Windows 10 has more users now than all of GNU/Linux and Microsoft is next in line behind Apple to become the 2nd trillion dollar company. I know this is an inconvenient truth for you but don't assert false premises and spread conjecture even further, the average IQ of the internet is being brought down low enough without you.
▶ No.955864>>955911
Microsoft's bullshit with Windows 10 was one of the factors that resulted in the end of active development of Classic Shell by its original developer.
▶ No.955911>>962958
>>955864
I can't believe anyone can even remotely tolerate how 10 looks and feels.
▶ No.955994>>956183
>>955841
>I'm actually glad that windows 8 and 10 were failures.
By all objective metrics they weren't, stop lying to yourself.
>It might actually force people to finally abandon microsoft
Far less popular changes (see UAC) did not manage to do that, and the Linux community is too high and mighty to seize such an opportunity.
▶ No.956059>>956062
>>917959
The proprietary nvidia-driver has well-known screen tearing issues. Your options include either switching to the free nouveau driver or enabling the nvidia DRM kernel mode setting. Detailed instructions can be found on the Arch-wiki, and you need a somewhat recent version of the driver. I however noticed, that this, although getting rid of all my tearing, added quite a bit of lag, which should be considered if you play video games or stuff like that.
▶ No.956062>>956116
>>956059
sounds like windows is still better for gaming then
▶ No.956116>>956185
>>955854
>Microsoft is next in line behind Apple to become the 2nd trillion dollar company
I thought Oil giants were the highest valued companies?
The fuck happened?
>>956062
>what is amdgpu
>what is RADV
▶ No.956183>>962941
>>955994
People overwhelmingly preferred to stay on Windows 7. The only reason Windows 10 got the adoption rate it did was through its extremely zealous forcible installation on Windows users of previous editions.
▶ No.956185>>956390
>>956116
>I thought Oil giants were the highest valued companies?
Walmart alone is worth more than many state-run banks in terms of market capital. Have you been living in a cave for the past 10 years?
▶ No.956390>>962248 >>965460
>>956185
>Walmart alone is worth more than many state-run banks in terms of market capital
>mfw it's real
The absolute state of modern economics makes me wonder what would happen to the western consumer industry at large if someone were to blockade the South China sea.
▶ No.962248>>963705 >>965460
>>956390
Chaos. Part of the beauty of globalization is that the troubles of a country halfway across the world can really fuck your economy locally. It's one of the reasons why Trump never went after China over currency manipulation like he claimed he would.
▶ No.962479
>>946241
OY VEY USE WANGBLOWS OR YOU MIGHT GET SUED BY THE JEWDICIARY
▶ No.962488
>>955854
>more apple users than ever
>more linux users than ever
>most normies use their phones (NOT WANGBLOWS 10)
gonna need a citation on that
▶ No.962643
>>917394
It is.
>>917398
Fuck off shill. Windows 10 blatantly advertising itself as spyware was the biggest reason I decided to give Linux a try.
>>917464
>How does the IT department approach the botnet antifeatures
Most IT managers don't give a shit. Several other IT people I talked to said there was nothing to worry about and that they trust (((Micro$oft)))
>and other bullshit like the updates causing obstructions at random times
Shit breaks constantly. While my boss hates that we have to rely on weird workarounds to disable only some updates, he still insists on upgrading everyone from 7 to 10 in order to be "up-to-date".
Unfortunately upgrading to Windows 10 is seen as the best upgrade for businesses partially because it has the furthest EoL date of any available Windows OS meaning an upgrade isn't necessary for a longer period of time, and to a lesser extent because it's still legally free (if you have the upgrade installer). Personally I'd rather deal with XP's security holes than Windows 10.
▶ No.962941
>>956183
What normies "prefer" (more accurately what they say they prefer) is irrelevant.
They got the win10 upgrade, and only a statistically insiginficant minority rolled it back, moved to another os, or protested in an unusually vocal way.
Normies have so many unstated or falsely stated preferences that half of economics had to be redone yo account for that, and the normies that were unable to reproduce the experiments on stated preferences couldn't believe it.
▶ No.962956
>>949134
>actually booting a new laptop before putting own OS on it (even Windows)
opinion discarded
▶ No.962958
>>955911
at least it doesn't look as bad as Vista and on (aside from maybe the mobile-first bullshit in the start menu)
▶ No.962960
>>945834
lol shut the fuck up pussy
▶ No.963357
>>917387
Wine work though.
▶ No.963705>>965460
>>962248
Wouldn't crashing Chinkland into early 20th century warlordism or some shit massively benefit the few remaining Western Industrial facilities?
There are still a number chip fabs and plants very much capable of outputting average consumer goods across Europe and North America, though they're used for manufacturing surgical instruments and other high tier non-consumer stuff these days.
▶ No.963781
Who else here /windows3.11/?
▶ No.964147>>964552 >>964571
Just switch to Temple OS guys
▶ No.964552
>>964147
No TCP/IP stack. An OS that can't get on the internet is nothing more than a toy.
▶ No.964571
>>964147
There's bad news on further updates.
▶ No.965413
>>918499
Is this bait? I think this is bait.
>>919129
>GNU/Linux sucks; It's really just as bad as Windows
Except ganno is actually fucking usable
>>920579
>RUN fsck MANUALLY
>Run 'fsck /dev/sdb1' manually
>Please run fsck manually
gee i wonder what you're supposed to do
>>941608
This. I like older vidya games so I unironically use Windows XP on a separate machine sometimes and it's so much more bearable. Even 9x is better than 7+classic theme
>>945600
Are you retarded? Have you ever used a modern Linux distro?
▶ No.965435
>>917928
tell me about it, my ganoo(slash)loonix main machine sits around 100MB idle with X running, there was a screenshot, which sadly i don't have anymore of a guy who had <30MB usage in xorg
▶ No.965459
>How can Pajeetsoft™ not be bankrupt yet?
Because W10 was the breaking point for most people. It's only been three years, normies are still merging over to andriod and Google who despite having their own issues make a better product/service. Nobody sane tolerates ads on their machine, not even ultranormies who can't understand why Office365 locks them out and wants money while Google Docs is totally free. MS can't compete and people are moving.
It's a slow process though, it'll be at least ten years for it to happen. But it has begun, be sure of that.
>>917387
People don't do "software" anymore, they do apps, in particular free ones. This is where MS gets fucked because despite all their attempts to put on a fresh coat of paint everything they offer is subscription based whereas Google is almost totally free. On a pure economics level, Google has the cheaper service therefore they will win the most customers.
MS would have to literally make Office totally free to change this, but they are never ever going to do that because of how profitable it is. See the problem? And the more time that goes on the more schools, workplaces, and governments will wonder why they're paying all this money for MS products that don't work with their phone whose apps are free.
▶ No.965460
>>956390
>>962248
>>963705
You all don't understand how industry chains work. China is America's dumpster, part of a ring of dumpster countries that operate as subcontractors for giant companies that sell shit at Walmart. If any individual acts up operations are transferred to the others and life goes on. If not China than India, if not China and India than Mexico and Brazil, etc.
This is what globalization is all about.
▶ No.965904
▶ No.965911
>>918499
Way to reveal your /g/
>finally KDE-tier window snapping
wow
>finally scroll-hovered-content-without-changing-focus
wow
>finally virtual desktops
wow
>finally proper notification centre
wow
>finally expose view
wow
>finally a store
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>finally properly multilingual
wow
>powershell isn't half that bad
wow
>windows subsystem for linux ftw
wow
▶ No.965914
>>933105
unbelievable
'just werks' was first said about ubuntu
this, from someone who hasn't even seen ubuntu
▶ No.965915
>>945679
they are a reseller
they never were a software company to start with
▶ No.965916
>>945679
they never used their own systems for development servers to start with - it was always SCO on their networks
▶ No.965917
>>945863
> IT guy here
wow you're in I.T. you really know how to install things?
▶ No.965918
>>945873
cos he's a qualified windows engineer
this 'IT guy here' prick
▶ No.965919
>>945863
>IT guy h
way he says it
'im a marine' fuck off you janitor
▶ No.965931
>>945885
Doing god's work anon
▶ No.965944>>965995 >>971223
>windows XP and below - mainly Bill Gates
>windows Vista - Bill and Ballmer
>rewritten from scratch but still pajeetish code sphaget
>couldn't run properly due to consumer hardware not keeping up with the binaries
>enabled file indexing the whole fucking drive which made it dead slow and UAC turned on by default causing permission problems
>64bit testbed
>windows 7 - Ballmer (Bill left the OS scene)
>it is actually just Vista but they rebranded it 6.1 = 6+1 = 7
>they just piled over shit on the existing vista install thus making it more bloated than vista but feels less bloated due to:
>disabled UAC and file indexing and others "AKA vista bugfix"
>remade the Aero blur and dwm to be less laggy
>people think it's faster but it's just that they're using modern CPUs that aren't such dogshit during the time
>windows 8+ - By some Indian successor
>it is actually just Vista but they rebranded it 6.2 = 6+2 = 8
>but at least it had huge improvement with the graphics/vga stack
>windows 8.1 - who?
>fixed the damned apps and win update bugs
>then they offered free dataminer botnet 10 upgrade to all "start menu" tantrumers
>windows 10 - who?
>"muh start menu is back on track" - not a lot of improvement aside from dx12 exclusivity and other built in ads and up to date spyware
▶ No.965950>>965955
>>941629
If you actually disable a lot of stuff including windows update there is a chance that windows update will leak memory like filling up your RAM entirely.
I had it tested on windows vista and 7.
Just go to blackviper for a quick debloat but if you're trying to make your idle like 200MiB then you should also disable shit like
>event viewer
>debugger, drwatson, event loggers, core/crash dump
>task scheduler (proceed with caution)
this is what reenables your widnwos defender or even windows update.
there's even tons of customer experience improvement program and telemetry hiding in there and some can't be disabled (like the combo box is greyed out) unless you are as good as me to be able to log in as NT kernel account but I didn't do it, I just gave up when I saw mini screenshots of my screen when connected over the internet (proceed with caution) and the process that uses it kinda does a telemetry so yeah... the more you know.
If you really want a default non-bloat version then go with a windows server then enable the stuff in registry so it can have startup programs.
▶ No.965953
>tfw need excel for school and libreoffice calc is shitty and infuriating
I'd honestly rather buy a mac at this point before I go back to windows. The Eternal Pajeet has angered me for the last time.
▶ No.965955
>>965950
they usually can't fuck with the server editions or else 'lawsuits' from big companies against microshaft.
the only time they can fuck a server edition is when it is out of support and you enabled windows update for it to put malware forcing you to upgrade like what they did on windows 8.1 (rollback all updates during the windows 10 release or you'll be forced to upgrade)
correction
>I just gave up when I saw mini screenshots of my screen during when i was connected over the internet
very suspicious. It doesn't like taking screenshots while I am offline.
▶ No.965958
>>933188
lol ur efi cancer bios probably detects the SSD as HD1 (since you just installed it) then the HDD as HD0 so it tries to boot the HD0.
the security features of efi cancer does that, it doesn't want you to
1) boot a live distro or anything usb
2) anything plugged in won't work unless it is signed by microsoft signing keys
3) it will detect if you replaced the hdd for security features
then when you had hdd removed it starts detecting SSD as HD0 so the bios picked that up then it created the efi variables that "SSD is HD0 and anything plugged afterwards is HD1"
▶ No.965960>>965966
>>917381 (OP)
People forget just how incompetent the average mongoloid user is. I worked in tech support while in college to help pay for my degree and I lost all of my sympathy for the average user after like a month of that shit.
Windows users deserve to be raped by the M-shaft and I genuinely find it hilarious listening to people tell me how much they hate using their computer now
▶ No.965962
>>933105
that pic is probably using a ntfs boot loader for dualboot but the OS doesn't have ntfs-3g installed so it can't mount the boot partition to a linux filesystem and /boot directory.
you can't mount without the driver for the FS
▶ No.965966
>>965960
Actually it is better that they are noobs. It makes it easier to get 'bad' tech sold in the cheap then fix it in one sitting and laugh it off. I bought several laptops from a winfag and it was sold as broken tech yet surprisingly all of them still worked and are in mint condition aside from the other one which I should fix the monitor EDID file.
▶ No.965995>>966016
>>965944
I thought they abandoned the vista codebase and rewrote from XP with 7
▶ No.966016>>966023
>>965995
They did, but remember, nobody here actually knows anything about computers outside of GNU/Linux desktop environments. there are also still retards out there that think Windows still uses DOS as its kernel
▶ No.966023
>>966016
>there are also still retards out there that think Windows still uses DOS as its kernel
Those were better times.
▶ No.966276>>966294 >>966425
>>917385
Behold, the future of software.
▶ No.966294>>966388 >>966390
>>966276
>command lines
>not manually entering program code by arranging cables and switches
▶ No.966379
Dualbooting into windows 10 for FLstudio. The boot time is so fucking slow. Then it needs like 10 to 20 minutes to stop lagging after logging in I presume because of all the background processes. I tried right clicking on a desktop icon while this was happening and it took 40 seconds to open the menu. Apparently this is an issue if you don't use a SSD. There is likely a way to shorten this but the fact that the default OS is like this is insane.
▶ No.966388
>>966294
stop with these one-upping comments. it's not funny and it's not clever. go back to reddit.
▶ No.966390
>>966294
>its unhealthy to be fat
>being anorexic is most healthy
▶ No.966425
>>966276
Of the thousands of hours of videos, and many nuggets of inspired knowledge littered throughout, it's this 8/10 terry webm that keeps getting reposted. Sad.
▶ No.966432
▶ No.966636>>966638
>>917381 (OP)
1. Normies "Don't care" Yeah, they're that stupid
2. For average normie changing OSs is something "elitist" and something that can destroy your PeeCee
3. There's no such GNU/Linux/BSD/*OS that advanced to the point where normie can install it very easily and play his wangblows vidya on 60fps
4. Most GNU/Linuxes operate on gnome and gnome is retarded
5. No one is willing to reverse engineer broadcom/proprietary drivers, making another problem
and finally
6. Windows gives that feeling of being more homogeneous, GNU/Linuxes and BSDs both give that feel of being taped together by very little, and very thin tapes
▶ No.966638
>>966636
Oh and by installing it very easily I mean "glig glig hehe imma install OheS Xddd"
▶ No.967591
>>920463
You can install apulse and avoid that dependency.
▶ No.967620
>>917381 (OP)
>>doesn't use Windows Vista
Longhorn was the last release Bill touched with his own hands and it shows.
▶ No.969113
Running 10 a new system I built and its actually ok. Disabling windows defender is a must as it can block installations of pirated software.
Using the LTSB version so there is no cortana, xbox, win store or other windows bloat by default. It seems much more stable and geared for performance than the standard win 10 editions.
To alleviate spying/telemetry etc get shut up 10 and spybot anti beacon.
https://www.oo-software.com/de/shutup10
https://www.safer-networking.org/products/spybot-anti-beacon/
autoruns to disable nvidia telemetry and other unwanted programs/services to keep running processes lower
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
tron script for optimization/security
https://www.reddit.com/r/TronScript/comments/9bdoip/tron_v1060_20180829_update_mbam_to_v3_remove/
▶ No.969118
>>917959
You might want to try sway, the config and usage is about the same, you get out of xorg hell and screen tearing.
▶ No.971091
>>946643
>That sign
There's no way that's real.
▶ No.971223>>972013
>>965944
>>people think it's faster but it's just that they're using modern CPUs that aren't such dogshit during the time
It is faster actually, I started using the beta when it came out because Vista was so dogshit and it ran much better. Faster boot time, less memory footprint and so on made it a great experience. Ballmer is the man,he even called out Jewgle for their bullshit. It's also no wonder they will continue to provide support for Windows 7, it's an OS that actually allows you to be productive unlike the pooed touchscreen bullshit.
▶ No.972013>>972081
>>971223
You are wrong, microshaft will not provide security updates for a new processor unless you are on windows 10.
▶ No.972081
>>972013
>microshaft ceases security updates for new processors on W7 in January of 2016
>Meltdown happens 2 years later
Pure coincidence, nothing to see here.
▶ No.972788>>972790
>>917454
Win7 is the only viable OS from pajeetsoft worth using. If you don't play games then just move to Linux.
▶ No.972790
>>972788
I tried Skyrim and Elite: Dangerous with the new Steam Wine port and everything works great. I won't be gaming on Windows any more.
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▶ No.985397
>>945863
>implying he wants you to reimage his drive when he's content with GNU/Linux
lel
▶ No.985417
>>942135
Just personal experience. Loads faster, installs faster, snappier.
▶ No.985477
>hurr people don't actually use 10
Are you all brain damaged.
All consumer prebuilt PCs ship with 10. People use it suck shit.