▶ No.895194>>895196 >>895205 >>895265 >>895349 >>895509 >>895954 >>896332 >>909062 >>913567
>>895190 (OP)
>No one will ever just try to copy windows XP interface 1:1 so we can finally have a decent DE
▶ No.895196>>895201
>>895194
>no search in the start menu
awful. Windows 7 was much better
▶ No.895200
Unity 8/UBports is still going. If they get it over to Wayland, it'll be the best QT desktop for sure. It'll even be able to keep the global menu.
▶ No.895201>>895212
>>895196
>Windows 7 was much better
xp was a lot litter tho.
Anyway CLI is the way.
▶ No.895202>>896016 >>913160
Canceling Unity was one of the most retarded decisions Ubuntu could've made. As a Windows user I can agree Unity was a rock-solid DE
▶ No.895203
XFCE is much more capable and uses way less RAM than unity.
Are you baiting or something?
▶ No.895208>>895224
I only ever used it with 512MiB of memory. It was pretty slow and not comfy at all. Albeit only having used Ubuntu for a few months, when they released 11.04 I thought it was a poor decision of them to switch. I thought what they had going with GNOME before worked better.
OP, how could you tolerate being so laggy?
▶ No.895210>>895211 >>895498 >>895555 >>895585
>>895209
What's the point of having a wallpaper if you can only see it 10% of the time?
▶ No.895211>>895551 >>895587
>>895210
>having a wallpaper
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▶ No.895222>>895230
>>895204
You're taking the concept of "windows" too literally.
▶ No.895224
>>895208
They switched because of GNOME 3. They made the right choice then, they just fucked up every other single decision since. Maybe now they've learned their lesson and they fuck off to cloud-space and leave the DE work to their flavors.
▶ No.895230>>895231
>>895222
Non terminal windows become opaque on hover.
▶ No.895231>>895233
>>895230
>tiling wm
>using the mouse
▶ No.895233
>>895231
>he doesn't hover using the vimkeys
▶ No.895234>>895235
>>895205
Literally an unholy mess, and I guarantee you it doesn't have nearly as many right-click options, or anywhere near the power of the control panel/device manager did in WinXP.
▶ No.895235
>>895234
Spacing between elements, shortcut creation process, etc. etc. etc.
▶ No.895248>>895250 >>895400 >>896339 >>927698
There will never be a desktop as functional with only half a megabyte of memory usage.
▶ No.895250>>895271 >>895686
>>895248
They do exist today. However, they won't have all the nice features that people demand in a modern desktop today.
▶ No.895265>>895331
>>895194
>windows XP interface
>decent DE
yeah, it will be called Stockholm Syndrome DE.
▶ No.895271
>>895250
People don't demand anything, because they don't even have any agency to begin with. They suck the industry jew cock and swallow.
▶ No.895329>>895332 >>901970
>>895242
>he uses the term millenial when he's a millenial himself and he really means Gen Z
Millenials
▶ No.895331>>895377 >>909175
>>895265
The classic NT5 interface is very decent, probably the best GUI ever. Vista and 7 already ruined it with pointless hit you can't remove, increased distance between rows in file explorer, and many other things. 8 removed the classic interface altogether.
▶ No.895332>>895345
>>895329
define "millenials"
▶ No.895333
Yuint and the UBports community are still developing Unity 8. Maybe you, all-knowing White developers, could help them?
Who am I kidding? This place is full of nothing but LARPers.
▶ No.895335
▶ No.895345>>895358
>>895332
It's generally accepted that it's the 1981-1995 generation. Some extend it to 1999, but it's not always the case.
▶ No.895349>>895400
>>895194
>XP with classic theme
I would definitely use it.
▶ No.895354
>>895204
>tiling VM
>not having one large window in focus at most per display
▶ No.895358>>895362
>>895345
>20 years is a generation
Cheeseburguer social scientists are garbage, yo.
▶ No.895362
>>895358
You, an irrelevant shitposter on a Chinese cartoon sharing pig-run platform, versus hundreds of dedicated sociologists who know their shit. Who would win?
▶ No.895377>>895611 >>909175
>>895331
>8 removed the classic interface altogether
horse shit
▶ No.895400>>895549 >>895564 >>895624 >>927701
>>895205
>>895248
>>895349
The classical desktop is still the sane choice
▶ No.895498>>895506
>>895210
Because we stack Windows instead of using autism window managers.
Seriously, TWM are not even good
▶ No.895506>>895541
>>895498
>I like to manually manage my windows and click around with a mouse constantly to do trivial shit
▶ No.895509
▶ No.895541
>>895506
>he actually tries to trick anyone into believing you can't manage your windows with shortcuts in a stacking WM
That, or you genuinely don't know how a normal environment works. Alt+tab is a thing, y'know.
▶ No.895549
>>895400
Man, that looks rather comfy.
▶ No.895550
>>895190 (OP)
>only 500mb of memory usage
>only
>only
▶ No.895551>>895965 >>913167
>>895211
>I don't know how to use feh
▶ No.895555>>895565 >>895580
>>895210
>10%
That's a very high estimate. If you're seeing your wallpaper, it means you have no window open, thus meaning you're not doing anything on your computer. If you're not doing anything on your computer, you should go outside and enjoy life.
▶ No.895564>>895620
>>895400
is windows basically a plagiarism of OS/2?
or what the fuck is going on in your picture?
▶ No.895565
▶ No.895580
>>895555
>not staring at the wallpaper for hours, intently studying the makeup of its pixels
▶ No.895585>>895603 >>895651 >>896525 >>923917
>>895210
>what's the point of wallpaper
There is none. You are like a retard who consumes a spoiled food just because you paid for it.
▶ No.895587>>895965 >>913167
>>895211
>i can't config i3
>i cant use feh
Anon please
▶ No.895601>>895965
>>895190 (OP)
Stop being a nigger and make whatever you like. Install Xfce and customize it yourself. A white man wouldn't use a desktop environment that can't be modified.
▶ No.895605>>895611 >>896396
>wallpaper autism
The only thing better than this is pure black.
▶ No.895611>>895648
>>895204
>Discord
Embarrassing.
>>895377
Not horse shit. Haven't you ever had the displeasure of using it? Same goes for 10.
>>895605
The one important feature of programs and operating environments is how it looks. I personally like to have every inch of my desktop covered with something at all times, but sometimes it's nice to just screw up your eyes by trying to decipher the non-existent magic images in tiling backgrounds
▶ No.895620
>>895564
Windows and OS/2 are sort of cousins. In fact, OS/2 was co-developed by Microsoft and IBM, until Microsoft got tired of IBM's bullshit and decided to do its own thing again.
And yes, IBM was the bad guy in this story. Or at least the stupid "pointy-haired boss" guy. I recall hearing this story: at some point, IBM sold PCs with the 286 CPU, promising buyers the upcoming OS/2 would run on them. Microsoft knew the 286 was just not powerful enough - tough luck, make it work.
▶ No.895621
>512MB
>implying lightweight desktop
Unity sucks. Also that's an awful lot of memory to do almost nothing useful. Oh wait, a messed up audio system and support for almost no useful application software.
▶ No.895624>>895792 >>926987
>>895400
I couldn't install this on my 486. Theoretically it supported computers with 8 MB RAM (16 MB recommended) but after 15 minutes of trying to boot the install disks, I just called it quits. It was pretty obvious it really "wanted" 16 MB.
Slackware and all the X WM's worked fine though. This was like 1995-6, just before the bloated desktop environments craze and the push to make Linux look and behave like Windows/Mac rejects. Linux "desktop" should have never moved beyond pic-related.
▶ No.895648
>>895611
>Not horse shit. Haven't you ever had the displeasure of using it?
Disable theming service and you'll get something close to the classic look.
▶ No.895651
>>895585
xsetroot -solid grey20
▶ No.895652>>895794 >>896026 >>923919 >>926106 >>929734
>>895190 (OP)
>desktop as functional as Unity
▶ No.895686>>895700
>>895250
If I say today twice, maybe I'll sound smart.
▶ No.895700
>>895686
>If I make fun of trivial errors on a shitty image board maybe i'll sound smart
▶ No.895792
>>895624
Couldn't agree more.
▶ No.895794
>>895652
Truly a marvel of ricing. Archfags and twm fags WISH they could do that.
▶ No.895954
>>895194
Go back and use Xp. Xp is dogshit even compared to LXQt.
▶ No.895965>>896023
>>895551
>>895587
Butthurt arch newbie, sxiv can play gif files meanwhile you use crappy featureless windowns-like image viewer.
>>895601
Xfeces are bloated compared to Lxde. What is more thunar doesn't has program list.
▶ No.896016
>>895202
>Unity
>Good
What the fuck happened here?
▶ No.896023>>902001
>>895965
>can play gif files
you're saying it like it's a good thing
▶ No.896030>>929040
>>896026
>nigger watermarked version
why?
▶ No.896332>>910680 >>926228
>>895194
Surprised no one posted this.
▶ No.896339
>>895248
>Requires 16-bit hardware and 128kb of RAM
Get that bloatware outta here!
>t. GEOS for the Commodore 64
▶ No.896396
>>895605
thank you, this is comfy in my Ubuntu Mate dark theme
▶ No.896525
>>895585
Invert, you monster.
▶ No.897552
>>895190 (OP)
Ubuntu MATE has a panel layout similar to Unity called Mutiny.
▶ No.897673>>901899
>>895190 (OP)
>functional
for you
>500mb to do literally nothing, and it probably _still_ makes you wait seconds when you open a terminal or folder browser
kek
▶ No.901878
Windows 7 takes less ram then unity
▶ No.901899
>>897673
>500mb to do literally nothing
I ran it on a machine with 512MiB of ram when it came out.
500 millibits doesn't make any sense
▶ No.901903>>901911 >>902004 >>908387
>>895190 (OP)
Why are icons for things you aren't doing cluttering your screen?
▶ No.901911
>>901903
Because the amount of screen real estate I'd gain with your method isn't worth as much as easy 1-click access to applications when I do need them.
▶ No.901935
>>895204
>a*ime
>twm
>transparency on windows
>shitty taste in music
0/10
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▶ No.902001
>>896023
>not wanting to get your daily dose through the wallpaper
▶ No.902004
>>901903
>cluttering the browser with a menu bar and a toolbar
>>>/out/
▶ No.908118>>908403 >>909043 >>910763 >>912905 >>924002
>>895190 (OP)
Uhm, sweetie...
▶ No.908379
>>895190 (OP)
If you want one, then build it. Otherwise, quit your bitching and upgrade your hardware.
▶ No.908387>>908642
>>901903
shit is blurry
your aspect ratio/resolution is fucked up son
▶ No.908403>>908479
>>908118
>sweetie...
No standards as usual. Fuck off back to cuckchan you flaming homosexual.
▶ No.908479
>>908403
Halfchan is full of normalfag spam, though. And I got tired of resetting my IP every other time I post there.
▶ No.908642>>909071
>>908387
Expand the image to full size kid.
▶ No.909043
>>908118
>cuckchan, the OS
no thanks
▶ No.909062
>>895194
Q4OS is quite nice. In a number of ways it legitimately tries to do what you speak of.
▶ No.909071
>>908642
I can barely make out a twelve
▶ No.909175
>>895331
>>895377
It's true, although Classic has been broken shit ever since Vista.
▶ No.909181>>909186
>>909172
>cuckchan file name
>inane shit-post
Like pottery
▶ No.909186>>909198
>>909181
>he actually uses the old garbage palemoon browser made by a furry who blocks shit he doesn't like
autism
▶ No.909198>>909219
>>909186
Provide an alternative
▶ No.909219>>910367
>>909198
literally even chrome is better than pale meme placebo garbage
>inb4 muh extensions
▶ No.909512
>>895204
>#8chan
>not ##8chan
lol cuck
▶ No.909520>>909524 >>909534
>he does know
Unity 7 and 8 were forked ages ago. Ubuntu unity spin was released after 18.04 hit alpha.
▶ No.909524
▶ No.909534
>>909520
>using unity
lmao xD good one
▶ No.910269>>910284
>>895204
>gaps
>transparency
>absolutely no sign of work being done
I can understand when a chromozome-hoarding ricer sets his terminal background opacity lower than 1, but why in the name of fuck would you want transparency on your fucking browser? Do you also have transparent document viewer? This is even more infuriating than the gaps and the uselees info in the status bar, and far more insulting than the lack of any work being done on your computer.
Also XMonad is the only acceptable twm.
▶ No.910284>>910335
>>910269
Lol
You took the bait so hard
▶ No.910335
>>910284
>i-i-i was merely pretending, i swear
▶ No.910367>>910435
>>909219
>literally some company's shitty media platform is better than real software
>google
no. and i run palememe with no extensions
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▶ No.910667
>>895190 (OP)
XFCE MASTER RACE
▶ No.910679>>923989
>>895190 (OP)
I really wanted to like Unity, but the whole desktop was inconsistent, slow and buggy at times. Is the new Ubuntu default desktop meant to mimic Unity's old behavior? I liked the idea of it.
▶ No.910680
>>896332
>GOKU
¿Por qué, señor?
▶ No.910763
▶ No.910771>>930926
>>895204
How did you make palemoons toolbar transparent? Also fuck these niggers who dont understand how lightweight transparency can be.
▶ No.911303
>only 500mb
>only
>500mb
>implying 500mb is small
▶ No.912820>>912834
There will never be a desktop as functional as Window Maker with only 5mb of memory usage.
▶ No.912834>>912878 >>913824
>>912820
i dont get how something like ur pic takes 5mb but then the user interface of any modern desktop, which gives similar functionality, takes up literal gbs of ram, barring the autists who rice gentoo
▶ No.912878>>912915
>>912834
>the user interface of any modern desktop
>takes up literal gbs of ram
That's a bit of an exaggeration. I'm on Mint now, and Cinnamon - not really a super lightweight DE - takes ~200MB.
▶ No.912897
I always thought Unity looked nice on Ubuntu. Very neat and modern. By contrast, GNOME just looks bad.
▶ No.912915
>>912878
Gnome with all of its godawful memory leaks can literally hit 4GB on my laptop if I'm using a background switcher.
▶ No.913160
>>895190 (OP)
>functional
>can't even make a shortcut without having to edit config and desktop files
Xfce already had it beat years ago.
>>895202
It was buggy and unstable. And being a fork of GNOME that isn't too different from GNOME means they should have abandoned it sooner and just maintained addons to give it the unity look and feel.
▶ No.913167>>913613 >>929773
>>895551
>>895587
>being a ricefags
Every edit you make to your config file adds another level of bloat to your system.
Stop being retarded, if you wanted a real minimal system you wouldn't be a ricefag.
Faggots like you make me honestly sick, the fact that you'd take a honestly good WM and ruin it beyond measure by adding tons upon tons of useless shit.
▶ No.913168
>>909172
Stop memeing faggot and tell us your browser so we can laugh at you.
▶ No.913363
>>895204
>Kernel 4.9 pleb
Also, holy shit your specs are shit
▶ No.913366
>>895204
But what if you wanted a window over the other and their text overlapped
▶ No.913567>>913613
▶ No.913613
>>913167
Different setups for different purposes. To me that kind of setup looks more appropriate for people that just want their computer to look cool but don't actually use it, or people that just want to fuck around and see what they can do. There really isn't much to change on i3, most of the default bindings are intuitive, and it works perfectly as it is.
>>913567
Or XFCE. I used LXDE for a while, gave it a classic Windows look, but now I just use standard i3 since it's lighter and doesn't require a mouse. My laziness is so immense nowadays that clicking on things is too much effort. It's easy to make a lot of DEs look like Windows, though. Funnily enough, since Windows 8, you probably can't make Windows look like Windows.
My Windows 7 PC looks like Windows, though, except dark, because I'm a night owl, so my eyes tend to prefer that. I avoided blue text entirely, because blue on black or dark gray looks incredibly blurry. Everything has to be white, green or red.
▶ No.913624>>913810
>>895190 (OP)
You can still install the last Canonical versions of Unity and it will still run. Otherwise, you can try the community forks of Unity.
▶ No.913810
>>913624
but why would someone want that?
▶ No.913824
>>912834
Because they have a bunch of unnecessary bullshit like drop shadows and transparency and fancy ass animations and rounded corners and all sorts of other shit that casual users don't notice and hardcore users don't want.
▶ No.913829
>>895190 (OP)
People might not like it, but Ubuntu is what peak linux looks like.
▶ No.915829
>>895204
I'm just picturing a redditor going through the utmost efforts to make his computer useless for bragging rights on /tech/ only to be unanimously told to fuck off.
▶ No.923917
>>895585
>he's prepared to flashbang any SWAT team coming for his cp hdds
smart move loli fucker
smart move
▶ No.923919>>923920
>>895652
this CANNOT NOT be a joke
there is NO FUCKING WAY
▶ No.923920
>>923919
Windows 98 Plus. Hotdog Stand.
▶ No.923989>>924067
>>895190 (OP)
>unity
>functional
Unity was so bad ubuntu dropped it and replaced it with GNOME 3, let that sink in.
>only 500mb
>only
This is your mind on windows. Sure windows will use 2GBs on boot but 500MB is still too much. My Openbox desktop boots with 180MB of RAM usage and that's still too much. There's no reason even the most complex of desktops uses more than 100MB, and that 100MB figure is easily debatable. There's no way you can cram enough lines of code to do that without serious, hard fuckups, and the assets to feed the screen aren't that big unless you're running some 40k LudicrousHD screen.
>>910679
Yes. I recommend you just use Ubuntu MATE instead though, MATE is made by GNOME 2 guys who thought GNOME 3 wasn't worth it. It has a built in theme that mimics Ubuntu, and it performs all around better while having less issues. Or you can do systemd-less, but I don't think any systemd-free distro has a built in theme that looks like Unity did.
▶ No.924002>>924007 >>924056 >>924080 >>932259
>>908118
fvwm is a bloated piece of shit and has been since it forked twm. its codebase is an unholy mess and any experienced C programmer will physically recoil at the sight of how it handles modules. fuck fvwm. in fact, fuck gentoo as well. portage is also an unholy mess written in pyth*n and takes years to calculate a single fucking dependency and the devs haven't switched to a more sane language like C or Go because "they haven't voted on a new language". openrc also depends on sysv, another fucking horrible piece of shit software. overall cloveros is a shit operating system and i dont know why anybody would use it over something like void, alpine, CRUX, even sourcemage and openbsd.
▶ No.924007
>>924002
I've been considering openbsd nowadays.
None of the insanity plaguing modern linux distros, highest quality code in all BSD variants, puts security at the top, package repositories seem to have a pretty good variety of package, fully free software.
It's a wonder why anybody uses RedHat/Linux nowadays when the alternatives are there.
▶ No.924034>>926231
>>895204
>i3
>compton
>gaps between windows
ABSOLUTELY HARMFUL
▶ No.924037
Who /MATE+Compiz/ here tbh
▶ No.924050
>>895204
>i-autism
>shit everything
wew
▶ No.924056>>924072
>>924002
OpenBSD uses fvwm as the default (it's what you get if you don't have a customized .xinitrc).
▶ No.924067
>>923989
Regardless of what we think of Unity and GNOME, the reality is that they dropped Unity and went back to the fold as part of the Linux standardization efforts being made by Microsoft, RedHat and the DoF.
▶ No.924072>>924075
>>924056
cwm is in the default install as an option
▶ No.924075
>>924072
That background represents the last 6 months of my life
▶ No.924080
>>924002
Is there a distro with a similar package manager? Mainly the USE flags part.
▶ No.925003
KDE with slightly less memory usage (around 450MB)
▶ No.926228
>>896332
Almost perfect, but taskbar icons need some realinging. Taskbar needs to be a little think, and the start button could be polished a bit better.
▶ No.926231>>926238
>>924034
Name an alternative to i3. Do it bitch.
▶ No.926238>>926989
>>926231
Ratpoison, bspwm, herbstluftwm, cwm, rio, dwm, spectrwm, StumpWM (bloated but hackable).
▶ No.926255
>>895190 (OP)
My i3 install with only 150MB of memory usage
▶ No.926987
>>895624
god FUCKING DAMMIT i miss inittab
I need to switch to slackware because it'll probably never switch from it.
I believe it doesn't support openbox OOTB but it does accept fluxbox
▶ No.926988
>>926622
sysv could do that in half the time
▶ No.926989
>>926238
openbox, fluxbox, fvwm
▶ No.927698>>927719
>>895248
why isnt there a linux DE that replicates macos (preferably os9 with the sounds on everything)
▶ No.927701
>>895400
I succesfully instaled warp 4 on my 365xd pentium thinkpad it ran amazingly however I decided to go back to windows 95 because the driver for my wifi card is behind some login screen on a 10+ year old website that doesnt exist and you CANNOT get this driver anywhere else.
I am pretty close to being able to use my win95 thinkpad as a daily driver, I just need a working email client.
▶ No.927719>>927729
>>927698
window maker is close enough
▶ No.927729
>>927719
it absolutely is not
windowaker is a NEXTSTEP(OSX) clone not os9 or earlier
▶ No.929040
>>896026
>>896030
Both of you newfags are wrong.
▶ No.929045
>>912905
This scene resonates in my mind at least once per week.
▶ No.929734>>929781
>>895652
what the fug am I looking at
▶ No.929773>>929823 >>930929
>>913167
>backgrounds are bloat
Bloat is anything compiled in that doesn't beed to be there. A de/wm with a built in background switcher is bloat. Running feh at startup/from a cron job is the antithesis of bloat
▶ No.929781
>>929734
Whose eyes are those?
▶ No.929823
>>929773
>>backgrounds are bloat
>Bloat is anything compiled in that doesn't beed to be there. A de/wm with a built in background switcher is bloat. Running feh at startup/from a cron job is the antithesis of bloat
this is fine!
▶ No.930921>>935318
>>895190 (OP)
Isn't there a fork of Unity that's being maintained?
▶ No.930926
>>895204
I might have witnessed your horrendous posts other than this one.
What a truly horrible thing to be aware of.
>>910771
And fuck the niggers who don't understand how lightweight transparency cannot be by principle.
▶ No.930929>>930951
>>929773
>installing a program meant to browse images as a background setter
Bloat.
▶ No.930951
>>930929
I'm pretty sure hackability is literally the definition of minimalism.
▶ No.932259
>>924002
Void is ok
Alpine uses OpenRC
OpenBSD uses fvwm
Source Mage and CRUX lack packages and are nowhere on the level of Portage
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