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 No.886173>>886227 >>886877 >>887874 >>891705 >>893268 >>894197 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

 No.886183

tldr >>884578


 No.886187>>886193 >>886204 >>886425 >>887797

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How long until the Intel shills, ass mad that nobody likes their embedded piece of shit house fires, comes in to complain about Ethernet throughput?


 No.886193>>886210 >>886242 >>891812

>>886187

>Ethernet over USB2

It's indefensible really


 No.886199>>886206 >>886210 >>886436

Brainlet here, is it possible to use a raspi as a firewall of some sort to block spectre?

How exactly does spectre work?


 No.886204>>886210

>>886187

She's cute, so she gets the job.


 No.886206>>886210

>>886199

spectre/meltdown needs to be exploited locally on the machine via malware if I remember correctly. RBPi and other SBCs (beaglebone or libre computer board) can be used as what are known as "edge devices" to intercept incoming traffic. Just use the term edge devices in your searches.


 No.886210>>886213 >>886214

>>886193

<reeeeee from Tel Aviv

>>886199

Sadly no, Spectre can work in even your browser. On the other hand, the Pi is a perfectly usable computer for Internet browsing, office tasks, light gaming, and it even has free Mathematica.

>>886206

Specter is theoretically exploitable in a web browser. Unless you have identified all possible variants of attacks which use Spectre there would be no good way to block them using a firewall on a Pi.

>>886204

Yeah she’s one of those maker e-thots who has a YouTube channel. Cute!


 No.886213>>886216 >>886840

>>886210

Yeah, my autism required me to look her up.

https://www.instagram.com/yagmanx/

That's the look I like, although she can lose the nose ring. If she wasn't too annoying, I'd introduce her to FPGAs and actual electrical engineering.


 No.886214>>886285

>>886210

Impossible, Mathematica is proprietary.


 No.886216

>>886213

>i like attractive females

tell me more


 No.886227>>891812

>>886173 (OP)

>*blocks your Spectre-jew*

>Chinese SoC

yeah, whatever.


 No.886242>>886257 >>886285 >>887524 >>892410

>>886193

It's the only safe way to do ethernet, since the mobo or PCI card versions can do DMA. Ditto with SATA disks, or any other device with potentially subversive firmware. But if they're using USB 3 for those, then you have the same problems. It has to be USB 2.


 No.886257>>886357

>>886242

I see your point about SATA drives and firmware, but if you are buying the ethernet controllers, why wouldn't you want DMA? You program them anyways.


 No.886285>>886983 >>892410

>>886214

I wrote free, not Free dummy. Mathematica comes free on Raspbian.

>>886242

This, the fewer devices with DMA the better.


 No.886357>>886367

>>886257

The OS kernel has drivers for ethernet device, but it doesn't account for the proprietary firmware that's running on those devices. The OS drivers run on the CPU, whereas the firmware runs on device's microcontroller.


 No.886367

>>886357

I thought you were talking about building your own hardware. That is where I confused myself.


 No.886425>>886427

>>886187

this thot needs to be paroled ASAP.


 No.886427

>>886425

She's a QT for sure.


 No.886433>>886434 >>886447 >>891812

I was going to make a joke about Raspberry Pi, Pentium 1 and row hammer, but forgot Raspberry Pi still uses decade old DDR2 RAM. What a piece of shit.


 No.886434>>886438

>>886433

It's a beginner development board, I hardly think it requires anything more. By the way, shouldn't you be more concerned that you don't have the skills to write a DDR2 memory controller? Instead of shitting on people below you, improve yourself.


 No.886436

>>886199

Yes. Buy 10 Raspberry Pis goy.


 No.886438>>886502

>>886434

You think whatever you're told. That's the problem, goy.


 No.886447>>886449

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>>886433

It costs $35, is powerful enough for almost all typical normie uses, and is hundreds of times more powerful than the million dollar computer which ran my whole University back in the early 1990s. Stay mad, Intel shill.


 No.886449>>886453 >>886481 >>891812

>>886447

>is powerful enough for almost all typical normie uses

It's really not tbh. Modern web pages are bloated as fuck nowadays, and believe it o not, most normalfags still care about muh games! They want a machine that can play the latest AAA shit like Fortnite BR


 No.886453>>886461 >>886464

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>>886449

It is quite powerful enough for web browsing, office apps, email, and it even comes with FREE Minecraft.

Most people never play AAA games and are happy with Legend of Soltar. Anyway why don’t you Intel shills give it a rest for a while? People are beginning to resent your shilling, especially since the CTS labs fake news flop. You’re hurting the brand.


 No.886461>>886477 >>891812

>>886453

>Most people never play AAA games

Grand Theft Auto V is the best selling traditional game of all time. It is over 60GBs to install and still costs 60 bucks because of Cockstar being a bunch of Jews

I'm just handing out reality you retard. And it doesn't agree with your shit-tier thread


 No.886464>>886477

>>886453

How do you type with Eben's dick in your mouth?


 No.886477>>886934

>>886461

>everybody gaymes because grand theft auto is popular and you can't play it on the Pi so that means the Pi is literally useless to everybody, because how can they play the most popular game even if they don't want to?

>>886464

It's funny to see you shills come out of the woodwork every time anybody mentions the Pi on the Internet, you even use the same canned talking points every single time. You're only hurting yourself, the tactics are just too dang obvious.


 No.886481>>886484 >>889748

>>886449

You realize most normalfags play games on consoles, right?


 No.886484

>>886481

He's just regurgitating what he's been paid to vomit all across the Internet. The Intel shill cries out about games as he attacks the Pi.


 No.886502

>>886438

Thanks for confirming that you're a brainlet.


 No.886504>>886827

Bump, looks like until RISCV arrives the Pi is the best secure shitposting machine.


 No.886652>>886807

I find it funny that you can get a 1Ghz cpu and 512 mb ram, hdmi capable minicomputer for about 10 bucks.


 No.886807>>886821 >>886826

>>886652

The Pi's more powerful than the most powerful supercomputers were in the 1980s.

<but muh faggot fucking games won't play on it


 No.886821>>891812

>>886807

And it still has worse single core performance than an AthlonXP from 2001.


 No.886826>>886864

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>>886807

Muh gaymes run fine though.


 No.886827>>886829 >>887473

>>886504

It's ironic that people will go to lengths to be "secure" while also demanding proprietary games and OS.


 No.886829>>886836 >>886852 >>891812

>>886827

Have you personally audited every piece of FOSS you use?


 No.886836>>886856

>>886829

I could if I wanted to unlike victims of proprietary software. Even if an individual user does not go through it, he still benefits from Free Software because there is less incentive for the developer to include malicious functionality than if it were proprietary because it would be much easier to discover and in such a case fork it and stop being dependant on the evil developer.


 No.886840

>>886213

>rasp encouraging normies to get into tech

Something about her insta makes me REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.


 No.886852>>886856

>>886829

This is a strawman and it's been used so often on this board and across the net that you just unequivocally outed yourself as an ass blasted shill.

Stay mad.


 No.886856>>886862 >>891812

>>886836

>malicious functionality

I disagree. FOSS tends to put users at ease with a false perception of security. FOSS users tend to assume that because the source is open that all bugs, malignant or accidental, would have been found by now, so it is safe to use this software. However, if no one except the developers actually work with the software and never say a word about malicious functionality, then there could potentially be end-users using malicious software under the pretense that it is safe because FOSS.

>>886852

Sure. Because you say so. Just because software is proprietary does not mean that it is compromised or inefficient or undesirable. Contrarily, proprietary software must be safe, efficient, and desirable otherwise the companies would be out of business. Haha! Get it? They couldn't keep making money if they kept putting out inferior software.


 No.886862

>>886856

>Because you say so.

No, because it's a trope by this point. This has already been haggled out over a period of literally decades (Halloween memo was almost twenty years ago) and either you're brand new to the Internet, or you're an actual shill repeating a tired saw.

This board really needs IDs.


 No.886864

>>886826

It'll run Wesnoth just fine.


 No.886865>>886866 >>886871 >>891812

STILL SLOWER THAN THE ODROID C2

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=raspberrypi-3-bplus&num=1

Better luck next $35 Pi shills.


 No.886866>>886939

>>886865

It's a ripoff, and they are behind lowRISC too. Look forward to slow, expensive, BSD/proprietary RISCV boards.


 No.886871>>886895

>>886865

Why would I buy some shit from a fly by night company assembled in botnet People's Republic of China when I can get a Sony-made Pi of which tens of millions have been sold?

It's like, BOOYA you can buy a Chinese car rather than a Ford Fiesta!


 No.886874

>sony

>not botnet


 No.886876

Let's keep this thread bumped shall we?


 No.886877>>886878

>>886173 (OP)

>raspberry-pi-isnt-vulnerable-to-spectre-or-meltdown/

It's not fully OS either IIRC, so likely has other backdoors.


 No.886878>>886880

>>886877

It has been possible to use the thing without blobs for a couple years now. You're right that it does have a binary blob but so far there is no indication it has a backdoor. It remains a possibility of course.

The open source firmware package is being worked on steadily and has commercial backing so in time it's likely it will become a completely open platform.


 No.886880>>887085

>>886878

>Cambridge UK designed

>All electronic communication in UK passes through GCHQ

>so far there is no indication it has a backdoor.

Do you need a personal memo from Snowden?


 No.886895>>886898 >>886901 >>886915 >>886927 >>886941

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>>886871

It's faster, has more RAM, it's the same price, and it's made in Korea.

For $15 more than the POS Pi. you can get a 2GHz Quad Cortex A15 (WITH speculative execution) SATA3 onboard controller, GbE onboard controller, and 2GB DDR3 RAM


 No.886898

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 No.886901>>886904 >>886927

>>886895

>WITH speculative execution

So it's not Spectre-proof then?


 No.886904>>886918 >>886927

>>886901

Did you think Intel, AMD, and ARM were no longer using speculative execution you mouth breathing moron?


 No.886915>>887471

>>886895

For about that price you can get an 8-core Cortex-A7 with 2 gigs RAM and without the problems of A15 core. The other stuff like ethernet and SATA is pretty easy to find on SBCs as well, but you're better off to run those on USB 2 instead, so they can't do DMA (since those two are some favorite devices for cianiggers to hide their nasty firmware).


 No.886918>>886927 >>887000 >>889087

>>886904

Did you read the fucking OP's link, you ass breathing moron?

Raspberry Pi uses ARM cores that don't do speculative execution.


 No.886927

>>886895

>>886901

>>886904

So this board's NOT immune to Spectre? What's the point then?

>>886918

The shills are losing it.


 No.886934

>>886477

>Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!

I'm gone from the internet for a few months and this is what greets me. Sad.


 No.886939>>887197

>>886866

>BSD/proprietary

BSD plus proprietary?


 No.886941>>886942

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>>886895

>WITH speculative execution


 No.886942


 No.886983

>>886285

>he didn't write free as in beer

>he doesn't know the conventions of the lingo so he can respect them religiously

What are you, some freedom-hating windows user? Be careful before we sent you to the GNULAG, sucker of proprietary cock.


 No.887000>>887001 >>887049 >>887152 >>889087

>>886918

>Raspberry Pi uses ARM cores that don't do speculative execution.

Which is why it's a slow piece of shit. Did you morons really think Intel, AMD, ARM, IBM, and MIPS would stop using speculative execution because of Spectre instead of fixing issues where applicable?


 No.887001>>889087

>>887000

Did you really think spaming irrelevant loaded questions makes you look less of a moron?


 No.887004>>887005 >>887106 >>891812

Facts are now moronic on /tech/. WEW this place has become shittier than /g/


 No.887005

>>887004

>talking to himself

alas the desperation of ye without ideas


 No.887049

>>887000

Posting this from my Pi, everything works just fine.


 No.887085

>>886880

I need evidence, at least with the Pi we don't know for aboslute certain that there's a backdoor like on Intel machines.

It's something to consider but it's not nearly as bad as the alternative.


 No.887106>>887839

>>887004

Nigger this place has been retarded with shit threads like this for a couple years now, where have you been?


 No.887116>>887152 >>891812

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>giving money to SocJusPi

>ever


 No.887152>>887180 >>887189

>>887000

The issue isn't speculativeness itself, but rather that it wasn't done in a proper manner, thus leaving an exploitation window. However, some ARM chips have been able to correct this in firmware.

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=151527756600887&w=2

>>887116

You can use other brands. There's dozens of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers


 No.887180>>887189 >>887419

>>887152

Are there any with ps/2 and vga support?


 No.887189

>>887180

According to that list in >>887152

there are several with VGA port. No idea about PS/2. You'd have to check the individual data sheets.


 No.887197

>>886939

Yes, BSD is fully functional system, proprietary is merely an essential component of it.


 No.887419

>>887180

Get a blue cube and a dongle.


 No.887471>>891804

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>>886915

>For about that price you can get an 8-core Cortex-A7 with 2 gigs RAM and without the problems of A15 core.

Link to board pls. I want it!


 No.887473>>887503

>>886827

The only people demanding games are the same shills who bring up USB2 Ethernet, ie Intel shills. It's hurting their brand.


 No.887503>>887511 >>891812

>>887473

The only people shilling anything here is SJW /leftypol/ LGBTQ faggots like yourself. Why don't you take a day off and be a kike someplace else?


 No.887511>>887516 >>887520

>>887503

>supporting a non-botnet computer from an established company with an enormous installed base is SJW kikery

No, I'm going to stay here and battle with you, you idiot shill.

You still have no rebuttal to OP's post, you just come in here all jacked up on Soylent and shitpost with your approved list of catchy comebacks.

What's the point? You aren't stopping Pis from selling, and Intel should be devoting more resources to fixing Spectre and less to shills.

Unless Intel doesn't want to fix Spectre, that is. It's more than possible that they love it and benefit from it.


 No.887516>>887519 >>887522

>>887511

>sjwPi is the only SBC

Are you fucking braindead?

There's literally dozens of compatible ARM boards that are better in every way, some of which even are explicitly in support of your ideologies as well. If you can't handle that fact, you can always flee back to /soypol/.


 No.887519>>887527

>>887516

None have the support of the Pi, most are running some jiggered-up kernel that's ancient and a lot have been abandoned by their one-off Shenzhen shell companies.

I love how angry the Pi makes you, it's like you can't sleep at night knowing that there are tens of millions of these things replacing Intel machines and your shitty botnet alternatives you proffer.

Just relax, go shit up another thread. There's still shilling to be done in the fake news CTS Labs thread.


 No.887520>>887523 >>891812

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>>887511

There's no reason to buy raspberg unless you want to give them money. You want cheap? They aren't it. You want good? They aren't either.


 No.887522>>887524

>>887516

So why are you shilling the worst of the bunch? Why say it's a desktop replacement? Why say SATA and Ethernet over USB2 is better than an onboard controller? You are so transparent at this point, I'm not even sure why you're here. What is your end game if not to sell more of these shitty boards?


 No.887523>>887856

>>887520

On the contrary, unless you're a street shitter $35 is cheap and unlike the alternatives there is a huge user community that's normie friendly to help the user get started with this board. I realize that the Pi is a threat to you, and think it's pretty good humor.


 No.887524>>887528

>>887522

>Pi is immune to Spectre

You're missing the point of the thread. Also this has been covered, you dipshit shill:

>>886242

Are you a bot? It's almost as if you lack the cognitive ability to accrue new information and integrate it into your shill game.


 No.887527>>887530 >>891812

>>887519

>The only choice is either Intel or sjwPi

You really are an idiot aren't you? If you're seriously going to continue this "if you hate rpi specifically you're intel shill" tactic that's failing you so miserably, at least try a more gullible demographic like reddit or cuckchan.

Anyway, even if the noncucked ARM boards have less community support than the Pi- they'll at the very least have a distro image ready with the necessary dev tools. Unless you're a cuck for propietary software, finding a port for ypur board of choice shouldn't be a problem. Be the change you seek instead of complaining about the lack of dev support.


 No.887528>>887530

>>887524

Speculative execution isn't a bad thing. This is also quite humorous. It's like you're flaunting DDR2 over DDR4 because of row hammer. Nobody in their right mind is going to be excited about decade old tech. Meanwhile all of these issues have been fixed or worked around. It makes you Raspberry Pi shills look retarded.


 No.887530>>887534

>>887527

I wouldn't call you a shill if you weren't a shill, shill.

>>887528

>these issues have been worked around

Most of the Pi alternatives don't even have a recent kernel and are still vulnerable to KRACK you shill.


 No.887534>>887570

>>887530

You're really convincing me by defending the honor of a singular product and dismissing all alternatives, some of which are more or less compatible and perform better for the same price. There's really nothing special about the Pi other than being the first SBC to be thrust into the public eye. I say this having used one of the things.

If you haven't noticed, saying shill constantly doesn't make you not a shill.


 No.887539>>887570 >>887579 >>887587

>All these retards defending ARM because "hurr at least it's not Jewtel!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_companies_with_research_and_development_centres_in_Israel

>ARM Holdings

OH NONONONONO!

Wait, it gets worse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Wilson

>Wilson later designed the instruction set of the ARM processor

>Wilson is a transgender woman.[22][23]

OH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHA!

Enjoy your Jewish tranny processors


 No.887568>>887588 >>887677

Can someone fill me in on those chink Banana Pis?

It says they're open sauce and I don't trust Broadcom closed source fags.


 No.887570>>887579 >>887580

>>887534

Name the alternative in the context of the thread, which is immunity to Spectre. So far you haven't.

>>887539

That's all irrelevant. Until somebody can prove that there's an actual backdoor in the Pi you're just shitposting.


 No.887579>>887595

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>>887539

>>887570

https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#generalSoCUsed

>use Broadcom SoC’s

closed source main part

They also produce the (((wifi))) hardware.


 No.887580>>887595

>>887570

Your hilariously attempt at starting a flamewar is irreverent shitposting you dumb nigger


 No.887587>>887588 >>887600

>>887539

Is ARM Jewish? Yeah, but its massively better than kiketel because

>no Management engine

>better RISC design

>small silicon die

>low power consumption

Even if it was backdoored to hell, the design of ARM actually WORKS compared to kiketel that breaks down that has fucking ACIPC bugs to this day.

>Wilson is a transgender woman.[22][23]

He wasn't a woman when he created the archutecture.

Also the internet was create by a tranny, you might as well get off it.


 No.887588>>887590 >>887601

>>887587

>Also the internet was create by a tranny

That explains a lot.

My question still stands >>887568


 No.887590>>887604

>>887588

They don't have backdoors, but docs are horrible and its chinkshit. You should rather give your money to whites for RPI than gross chinks.


 No.887595>>887598

>>887579

>>887580

>still no proof of a backdoor


 No.887598

>>887595

Points on <closed source>.

See?


 No.887600

>>887587

>ARPANET was created by trannies

You are literally grasping at straws so hard I don't, even know what you're referring too


 No.887601>>887604 >>888052

>>887588

Anon you responded to doesn't even understand English.

>create by a tyranny

That is not English.


 No.887604>>887614 >>891700

>>887590

>amis

>hwhite

white isn't a race and americans not necessarily white

>>887601

>>create by a tranny

>create by a tyranny

>That is not English.

It's bait.


 No.887614

>>887604

At least I pointed it out. Some of you Anon's are failing on the job. Get your fingers out of your arse and do some work.


 No.887677>>887758

>>887568

Almost every ARM single board out there besides Raspberry Pi can boot without binary blobs. Allwinner is a chink company who doesn't really care about GPL, and most of their SoCs use ARM's Mali which wont be taken advantage of because ARM hates open source. Also, I'm not sure any of these boards with SATA can be used as a boot device. Other than that, it's fairly open.


 No.887758>>887789

>>887677

The Pi can boot without blobs too, which ones include everything GPL even the GPU?

None, that's the answer. There is no completely open ARM board and there's nothing even more open than the Pi. At least nothing with support or even code available.

Please cite some specific fully Open and Free boards at a comparable price point to the Pi, ideally ones without speculative execution.

You can't and you won't.


 No.887789>>887799

>>887758

>https://github.com/christinaa/rpi-open-firmware

>Does it boot Linux?

>Yes, with some conditions. You can boot a very minimal version of Linux without the firmware and get it to work with UART and eMMC. Support for USB, DMA, and Ethernet are in the works, which will be sufficient for certain headless systems. Still, many other peripherals require bringup, such as video. Additionally, drivers for power management need to written.

Oh too bad so sad. Looks like you're full of shit again.


 No.887797

>>886187

this is an underrated post because both Intel and Raspberry PI are (((feminist frequency)))


 No.887799>>887801

>>887789

It also boots OpenBSD and like with Linux, it works perfectly well with USB ethernet and wifi adapters and so on.

Back to my question, which of the Pi alternatives do better with Free and Open firmware?


 No.887801>>887817

>>887799

Not without proprietary blobs it doesn't. Beagleboard and Allwinner based boards are fully usable without blobs minus GPU.


 No.887817>>887821

>>887801

So's the Pi...


 No.887821>>887825

>>887817

proprietary blobs required for initialization afaik


 No.887825>>887835

>>887821

That hasn't been true since 2014.


 No.887835>>887837

>>887825

is this the case for new hardware only, or was the original hardware OSS'd? because if so I might have to dig up my old RPi1...


 No.887837>>887840 >>889369

>>887835

http://crna.cc/b/11

RPi 1 is not supported, the newer ones are though.


 No.887839>>889369

>>887106

>there have been threads about how the Pi is invulnerable to Spectre for a couple years now

You're sore, admit it.


 No.887840

>>887837

Welp, time to upgrade!


 No.887856>>887857

>>887523

> $35 is cheap and unlike the alternatives there is a huge user community that's normie friendly to help the user

Translating that into /tech/ reads as:

$35 is cheaper than $20 and unlike the alternatives there is a huge L-user (((community))) that's LGBTQ+ faggot friendly to help the L-user

>>>/g/


 No.887857>>887974

>>887856

>I want a board that's vulnerable to Spectre and has a two year old kernel and no distro support.

<why aren't you hard wiring your own TTL processor? It's the only secure way

lol keep trying, you'll hit that high note some day


 No.887874>>887959

>>886173 (OP)

I bought a pi once.

It never fucking worked.


 No.887959>>889094

>>887874

How is that possible?


 No.887974

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>>887857

>>I want a board that's vulnerable to Spectre

Not sure where you got that from, I have a botnet allergy.


 No.888052

>>887601

>Anon you responded to doesn't even understand English

>responded to doesn't even understand English

You don't know english, as well.


 No.888098>>888104 >>889942 >>889987

So what sbc should I buy /tech/?

Requirements are long hours of usage for internet and watching videos.


 No.888104

>>888098

>watching videos

Get a regular pc, maybe an htpc with an apu


 No.888106>>888109 >>888110 >>888198 >>888278 >>888332

Since this is an SBC thread, what the hell is going on with CHIP? I just wanted a cheap, comfy little hand-held computer, but these fucks have had their store closed for months, and they haven't updated their blog since last November. Are they kill?


 No.888109

>>888106

""""""""""supply chain issues """"""""""


 No.888110>>888265 >>889987

>>888106

I have a chip and love it. I heard their Chinese connection fucked them sideways and now they are broke as a fucking joke.

Chip is awesome. Too bad they fumble fucked it up.


 No.888198

>>888106

I was interested in them too, but they were out of stock last summer. Shame. Hope they recover.


 No.888265

>>888110

Fucking chinese.


 No.888278

>>888106

unfortunate


 No.888332

>>888106

It was a scam from the get-go I believe. Still I managed to sign up early and get one of the 8GB Hynix units, and the VGA and HDMI shields.

They partnered with the Chinese and also (IMHO) laundered / stole a bunch of money themselves.


 No.889087>>891801

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>>886918

>>887000

>>887001

This is why i come here.


 No.889094>>889311

>>887959

Must have been defective. I assumed it was my fault so I tried to make it work much much later, and eventually I realized it was a piece of junk to begin with.

Next SBC I got was the Tinker Board and it works beautifully.


 No.889311>>889321 >>889327 >>891494

>>889094

>Tinker Board

Does it have any protection on the pins?

Because rpi doesn't, and I fried my one as soon as I started to poke around with GPIOs.

I guess you're supposed to only use it with official(tm) "shields" or "hats" or what are they called, but this kind of defeats the whole purpose of rpi as a learning tool.


 No.889321

>>889311

>I guess you're supposed to only use it with official(tm) "shields" or "hats"

I have an ethernet breakout board manually wired to spi0 and have no problems with it (I even wired it up with the power on.)


 No.889327

>>889311

those gpio pins are cmos (3.3v) but will accept ttl (5v) just fine.


 No.889369

>>887839

You've been talking to the wrong people dumbshit. /g/ needs ids

>>887837

Again, LINUX WORKS GREAT WITHOUT BLOBS GUYS HAHAH

>usb totally unusable

>ethernet totally unusable

You really need to brush your teeth after gobbling down all of that semen. Your breath stinks.


 No.889748>>889943

>>886481

>still holding onto the belief that you are above normalfag tier by playing games on the pc

Yeah no. A massive amount of normies play on PC.


 No.889942

>>888098

Raspberry Pi 3b+.


 No.889943>>891561 >>891578

>>889748

Most people who use a computer never play a modern 3D accelerated game, it's not actually super popular. Maybe 10% of the computer owning public will ever buy and install a game more intense than solitaire or Minesweeper.

Let me teach you how deep in your bubble you are - normies play phone games and Facebook games, and whatever comes with Windows on their new PC, and that's about it. That's where the user base for games is these days. Of the people who do play 3D accelerated games, most don't give a fuck and run with default settings for their computer and never change a single graphical option. The number of hard core PC gamers is vanishingly low, maybe 1% of the base playing any popular games. I'm talking about the kind of people who upgrade their GPU more frequently than every couple of years, who worry about frame rates and responsiveness and "screen lag" and other shit for autists. They're just not a sizeable demographic. Maybe a couple hundred thousand world wide.


 No.889987>>889989

>>888098

>watching videos

Not a whole lot because of video drivers. RPi unfortunately has the best support, but Odroid is probably the 2nd best for video if you want to avoid SJW bullshit. (I have the C2, but I run it headless so I can't comment on its video performance. So far its CPU hasn't seemed to bottleneck from running a Minecrap server so it's probably fine for web browsing.)

>>888110

Why do businesses use China so much anyway? Do they just look at the cheap price and think its a bargain without considering how terrible the Chinese are to deal with? (I was going to post screencaps of anons who suffered dealing with China for business but I can't find them.)


 No.889989>>889993

>>889987

>Why do businesses use China so much anyway? Do they just look at the cheap price and think its a bargain without considering how terrible the Chinese are to deal with? (I was going to post screencaps of anons who suffered dealing with China for business but I can't find them.)

Labor in China is cheap. That's how the Chinese economy works. The Chinese government adjusts the Yuan to keep the GDP per PPP the highest in the world even though their Nominal GDP is well behind Europe and America and their GDP per capita is among the lowest on the planet. China is pretty much fucked if they can't keep the cost of their labor low enough for the rest of the world to justify outsourcing because the value of the Yuan only works because China doesn't export it on the same scale as USD. That's why they're damage controlling the steel tariffs so hard


 No.889993>>890073

>>889989

I think you misunderstood what I said. I'm aware of why China is cheap, but I was wondering why businesses put up with China despite the "bargain". The Chinese are notoriously dishonest and corrupt. (I had screencaps of anons talking about how businesses they worked for were sold false or mislabeled products, one Chinese company breaking environmental protection laws here in the US by smashing CRTs and dumping them out back, and so on.)

Many people shit on America for shady practices with the large food and drink corporations, but it's nothing compared to the food the Chinese will sell to each other.

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=zrv78nG9R04


 No.890073>>890468

>>889993

>smashing CRTs and dumping them out back

why do people hate money


 No.890468

>>890073

I love CRTs but most of 'em are shit. For every FW-900 manufactured there were a hundred "Dell" CRTs and most office drones, unless in a managerial position, would have been provided with the cheapest display you could buy.

People want those rare good Trinitron or Diamondvision or other aperture-grille displays these days, the cheap shit hasn't accrued any value.


 No.891478>>891482 >>891511

What's the best bang for my buck I can get for a low-powered mini-pc?

Looking to build my own home data center for experimenting with cluster computing. Got a few Raspberry PI's, but they're too expensive and slow as balls.

Looking for anything capable of running a Debian-like OS.


 No.891482

>>891478

Rpi 3 B/B+


 No.891494

>>889311

>Because rpi doesn't, and I fried my one as soon as I started to poke around with GPIOs.

then get another, and your first project is to make a shield with opto-couplers for all the GPIO pins... Or don't use the GPIO's at all, use a $3 Ardino Uno or a $7 Arduino Mega clone as a USB/serial interface board.

I have looked at RPi's a few times, always don't like them.

After hearing about the SD card failure issues, I looked up how to get them to boot off USB, and I don't like that either (it's a permanent change?)

Also a RPi + all the other parts is like $75, and for $100 I can buy a refurb business laptop that has a faster CPU and comes complete, even in its own enclosure. If you had to have something really tiny, yea the Pi is better. On on every other count however it's a tough sell.


 No.891511>>891536 >>891547

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>>891478

The Orange Pi One is pretty good, just don't use the linux images the company provides, chinks can't into programming. I recommend using armbian instead.


 No.891536

>>891511

This. My home server is an OPi One running Armbian. Just keep in mind that it can't be powered through microusb.


 No.891547>>891551 >>891554 >>891862

>>891511

Does it HAVE to be debian clones on these things? Anybody ever put something useful on one, like alpine?


 No.891551

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 No.891554

>>891547

Yes, you can also use gentoo, and it doesn't even have to be linux OpenBSD supports loads of arm devices as well. Its just newfags can't into handling a system themselves and thus need something like armbian or raspbian to do it for them.


 No.891561>>891662

>>889943

>gamers are dead

where the fuck do you think you are, Anita?


 No.891578>>891590 >>891591 >>891662

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>>889943

>what was overwatch

>what was pubg

>what is fortnite

>what is [insert meme game of the season]


 No.891590>>891622

>>891578

what happened to running a lan game of DOOM or getting on some StarCraft or WarCraft II if you had the battle.net edition? are those games not fun anymore? shoot i would start up an emulator and run goldeneye or mariokart64 through it. i don't have friends though.


 No.891591>>891682

>>891578

/r/pcmasterrace gaymurrs make up only a small fraction of the normalfag horde. Even among the normalfags who do game, most of them do so on consoles. This is why facebook-machine thin laptops are so popular.


 No.891622>>891644

>>891590

The majority of people who still play Doom now use some shit like GZDoom. They don't even like the vanilla game, and complain when someone makes a wad that doesn't use enough cutting-edge GZDoom features. It's been a real shitshow for the past few years. They also have a very closed-minded view of what makes an interesting level. I'm not sure exactly when it went wrong, but probably has something to do with an influx of people who grew up on later 3D games wanting Doom to act and look the same as those games. Only thing is, it was never designed for that, so it ends up like a house of cards. They have all these different versions of GZDoom and you have to use the right one to play any given wad, because they keep changing shit constantly.

Oh well, I pretty much dropped out of the scene. Anyway there are seldom any new wads that I enjoy anymore. This one was fun, but it's rare to find anything like it these days: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pc/games/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/shovelad.zip


 No.891644

>>891622

that's tragic. kids these days don't realize how good they have it. they probably won't know even when it's gone.


 No.891662>>891682

>>891578

>>891561

I think what he's saying is that very large swaths of people own computers and very few of them use them to play vidyas.

Hell, I own several computers and only one of them is capable of playing modern vidyas. Think of the entire population of computer users, from the people using computers to track satellites to the old ladies that use them exclusively for e-mail, to the uni students that use them almost exclusively for checking facebook and word processing.

People in fucking india aren't using their glorified spreadsheet-calculators to play fortnite, neither are old ladies, buisinessmen, most uni students, parents, etc. Out of the people that do play vidyas, most either have a dedicated computer or play on consoles, this still takes up a minimal share of the entire amount of computers in curculation.

Gamers aren't dead, computers just aren't primarily used for games - never have been and never will be.


 No.891682>>891685 >>892690

>>891591

>>891662

Overwatch, Pubg, CS:GO.etc have ALL sold at least 30 million units EACH. I don't think you guys know what you're talking about


 No.891685

>>891682

and? Billions of people use computers.


 No.891700

>>887604

Since when?


 No.891705>>891729

>>886173 (OP)

does it matter which model you use? there appears to be 4 models and a version of the original one that isn't sold anymore


 No.891729

>>891705

These are the affected cores.

>R7, R8, A8, A9, A12, A15, A17, A57, A72, A73 and A75

https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update

If you use an up to date kernel and compiler, it's not an issue.


 No.891801

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>>889087

second


 No.891804>>891853

>>887471

Still him wondering what this mythical board is


 No.891812>>894202


 No.891853>>891913

>>891804

He didn't realize it was a big little configuration with A15 and A7, just like he thinks Ethernet and SATA are better off on USB. ARMlets are the new Mac users.


 No.891862>>891863

>>891547

>useful

>alpine

Eeeh, it never really worked for me, especially for user-end purposes. Combination of musl and enhanced security break a lot of software.

Also it feels with recent releases that they moved away from general purpose distro towards being docker/container Linux exclusively.


 No.891863>>891867

>>891862

That's the point. "General purpose" distros are not useful.


 No.891867

>>891863

It is not useful if I can't use it for what I want.

And I don't really want to run web-servers with PHP CGI or nodejs and SQL databases, which seems to be the only thing in alpine that gets constant dev attention.

I semi-successfully used it as a file server while my rpi was alive, and even submitted a package to the testing mailing list, but it got silently deleted from repo after some time, so now I'm bitter


 No.891913

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>>891853

The board is called 4chan, you know it well, it's where fags shill.

https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/65338765/is-openbsd-the-most-secure-by-default-operative


 No.892410>>892689

>>886242

>>886285

Pretending that DMA provides any protection from a potentially compromised device sitting on the same PCB is like pretending that making the buck negro bring a condom when he fucks your girl makes you any less of a cuck.

Either you have open-source, trustable hardware running open-source, trustable firmware or you don't.


 No.892689>>892755

>>892410

Don't be a tard, DMA guarantees that there is device access to the bus, while even if the devices are sitting on the same PCB one could manually trace what's connected where.

You're glowing, nigger.


 No.892690

>>891682

>0.004% of the world population is into these gaymes

Wow that's barely anybody.


 No.892755>>892791 >>892792 >>892955

>>892689

If you're freaking out about DMA, why aren't you freaking out about all of the side-channel attacks having an untrusted chip sitting centimeters away on the same board and using the same power supplies make possible?

Countless exploits already run just fine over USB 2.0 using arbitrary hardware. If you can't trust your fucking Ethernet controller, the one device which is designed to have a continuous high-speed link to the rest of the world, to not betray the rest of your system, why the fuck are you pretending that using a slower, inferior bus to talk to it is going to provide you with any meaningful protection?


 No.892791

>>892755

>freaking out

I'm not "freaking out" I'm simply recognizing an attack surface. It's kikey that you need to go full retard right off the bat, predictable but kikey.

>Countless exploits already run just fine over USB 2.0 using arbitrary hardware.

>countless

See what I mean about the full retard shtick?


 No.892792>>892795

>>892755

>freaking out

I'm not "freaking out" I'm simply recognizing an attack surface. It's kikey that you need to go full retard right off the bat, predictable but kikey.

>Countless exploits already run just fine over USB 2.0 using arbitrary hardware.

>countless

See what I mean about the full retard shtick?


 No.892795>>893270

>>892792

>predictable but kikey

>shtick

You're out.


 No.892955

>>892755

What are those side chips exactly you're talking about, and how much room is there to feasibly do anything via their firmware?

There's already proven cases of SATA disk firmware botnet. It makes sense to do it via HDD firmware because the disk itself can store interesting things for cianiggers to later exfiltrate. If firmware has DMA elite access, it can just crawl the entire memory and save anything it likes for later exfiltration (or until goons shows up and grabs your hardware).

I don't know if there were any cases of Ethernet botnet firmware found in the wild, but the cianiggers do implants on these, so maybe they're working on firmware solution as well. In any case, it's an obvious attack path since the firmware with DMA can do same as above, but instead of storing the data it can just send it somewhere.

Other devices don't make as much sense to botnet, unless they have some way to store or send the data.


 No.893264>>894356

Lets forget that we need CIA nigger firmware to boot. Additional controllers are the real issue here and that is why I love licking Eben Upton's ballsack. One of these days he will let me be a bottom.


 No.893268

>>886173 (OP)

That's why I've been using my pi 3 for banking, company emails, and other sites that require sensitive credentials.


 No.893270>>893271

>>892795

to his benefit he could be a New Yorker, a lost of us have a mut-tier vocabulary for the past 100 years without even knowing the origins of the words.


 No.893271

>>893270

a lot*


 No.894197

>>886173 (OP)

The only thing that MtF is blocking is his testosterone production.


 No.894202

>>891812

>i3

Use a real WM like twm or wmaker.


 No.894356

>>893264

Read the thread dummy, that hasn’t been true for years.




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