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Well, that's awful. Does anyone know if there are up-to-date torrents? The most recent release on http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:The_CD_and_DVD_Project is from 2010.

>Isn't that great, and isn't it so funny how Open and Self-Confessed socialist nations are the first to censor works? This time, public domain works are being censored. Thanks, Israel!

>unrelated grainy facebook-tier jpeg

Can you not

what is this project about and which books were banned?

>>878372

Project Gutenberg is a library of public domain books. It's pretty well-known, and it's been around for a long time.

Copyright duration varies from country to country, and some books that are in the public domain in the US are not in the public domain in Germany. Project Gutenberg has a warning that says to check whether it's legal to do so in your jurisdiction before downloading, and that was considered enough, up to now.

They were sued in Germany, and were ordered by the court to block access from Germany, and they did.

>corporations sues sues community project to increase their profits

<hurr its the socialists

Your brain on alt-right.

Here is a non /pol/lution source: https://www.ghacks.net/2018/03/04/project-gutenberg-blocks-access-from-germany/

Project Gutenberg blocks access from Germany

by Martin Brinkmann on March 04, 2018 in Internet - Last Update: March 04, 2018 - 35 comments

Internet users from Germany who try to access the international website of Project Gutenberg, a free ebook repository (and audiobooks), get a "Your IP address is blocked" message when they attempt to load any page on the site with the exception of the homepage.

Project Gutenberg hosts more than 56,000 free ebooks in various formats. Ebooks are offered in English, Spanish, German and other languages, and are considered free to use in the United States as they are not protected under U.S. copyright law according to the service.

German users may access the homepage of Project Gutenberg but get the "is blocked" message when they attempt to access any subpage on the domain.

project gutenberg blocked

The page informs users that all IP addresses from Germany are blocked because of a German court order. The project's lawyers believe that the "Court has no jurisdiction over the matter" and appealed the decision. Site access is blocked for users from Germany until the issue is resolved.

The lawsuit dates back to December 30, 2015, when Project Gutenberg received notification that a lawsuit was filed in Germany against it. The plaintiff, S. Fischer Verlag, GMBH, demanded that the project block access to 18 ebooks by the three German authors Heinrich Mann, Thomas Mann, and Alfred Döblin or remove the books entirely from the catalog.

The court sided with the plaintiff and ordered that the books had to be removed or made inaccessible from Germany. The court asked for download statistics to assess licensing fees or other fines, and for payment of the court costs.

Project Gutenberg's legal counsel disagrees with the claims and believes that the court overstepped its jurisdiction.

Access to all ebooks and pages from all of Germany was blocked to avoid additional lawsuits, and download records could not be provided because none are kept by the project.

PGLAF's legal advisors disagree with all claims that there must be any blocking, or removal, or anything associated - censorship, fines/fees, disclaimers, etc. - for items that are in the public domain in the US. Period.

Because the German Court has overstepped its jurisdiction, and allowed the world's largest publishing group to bully Project Gutenberg for these 18 books, there is every reason to think that this will keep happening. There are thousands of eBooks in the Project Gutenberg collection that could be subject to similar over-reaching and illigitimate actions.

PGLAF is a small volunteer organization, with no income (it doesn't sell anything), other than donations. There is every reason to fear that this huge corporation, with the backing of the German Court, will continue to take legal action. In fact, at least one other similar complaint arrived in 2017 about different books in the Project Gutenberg collection, from another company in Germany.

Project Gutenberg's focus is to make as much of the world's literature available as possible, to as many people as possible. But it is, and always has been, entirely US-based, and entirely operating within the copyright laws of the US. Blocking Germany, in an effort to forestall further legal actions, seems the best way to protect the organization and retain focus on its mission.

>>878385

The source is fine. It's Project Gutenberg itself. It's just the post around it that's garbage.

>break law

>get blocked

Don't see the issue here. At least the Germans didn't drive some guy to suicide over it.

>>878387

You are right, when I saw the end I just did not read further, especially since I knew about it already.

>>878389

How does keeping copyright 70 years after the death of the creator further culture? Protip: it doesn't.

>>878385

>>878389

Hi ShareBlue

>>878389

niggers, niggers everywhere

just fuck off to whatever shitty internet /pol/kiosk you came from

>>878392

oh ok let's compare cultures then

>beethoven, wagner, kant, hegel, goethe, heidegger

>tupac, miley cyrus, neil degrasse tyson, bill nye, stephenie meyer, sam harris

>>878401

Literally all of those Germans lived when copyright in its current form did not exist. Even the Authors whose book this suit is about lived in a time when the law would have made the books public domain by now, but the lobbyists of the rich and their friends in the CDU retroactively extended the posthumous length of copyright in 1965.

>>878385

>>878398

>muh /pol/

where the fuck do you think you are

>>878440

This. Even though this inconveniences me, I would rather have Project Gutenberg inaccessible entirely than have them block only those books affected by the court order. Copyright this long is bullshit, if the publisher and the author haven't been able to turn a profit in decades, then they haven't earned it. If users all users are inconvenienced they will notice how bullshit the current copyright law is, whereas if only those books had been removed no one would have noticed.

(((S. Fischer Verlag)))

Users in Germoney can use proxy or VPN.

where do these fuckin people get off

>>878443

<he's an autistic internet nazi

Sad!

>>878443

.../tech/? The technology board.

>>878372

Millenial?

>>878385

>muh /pol/

You know, there's a board for people who can't handle banter. You should check it out if offhand negative remarks about your favorite failed system offend you.

>needing to torrent public domain books

What has the world come to?

>>878634

In the future there will be no public domain, everything will be owned by private entities (not you though). They already effectively removed fair use rights with DRM, DMCA and the European equivalent that the US imposed.

>>878384

>>878364 (OP)

So is it all only about "copyright"?

>>878384

>They were sued in Germany

Q: Why didn't Project Gutenberg block access until the Court made its judgement?
A: PGLAF's legal advisors disagree that any foreign Court or entity has jurisdiction over its actions regarding copyright. The Court in Germany has promoted a theory that it has jurisdiction, mainly because the www.gutenberg.org site has some content in the German language. The view of PGLAF is that it is up to the rights owner in Germany to identify people there who are infringing on its copyrights, and pursue remediation there. It is not up to PGLAF to police or defend the rights of entities in different countries. Because PGLAF operates as a legitimate non-profit organization, however, it is appropriate to act as the German Court ordered - pending appeal - even though it disagrees with the order.

Q: So the court thinks that the presence of content in German means that courts in Germany have jurisdiction, regardless of the fact that PGLAF is entirely in the US?
A: Yes, that was the original basis of the claim for jurisdiction, which the Court accepted in their judgement. Since then, there some more recent decisions in the European Court of Justice, and other German courts, that support this theory based on a Web site being accessible from a country. I.e., if a Web site is accessible from Germany, there are some cases where German courts claimed jurisdiction over that site, even though it was operated, and based, outside of Germany. These cases involve companies that actually operate (for-profit) in Europe, and the cases were between two European countries (i.e. part of the EU). They are not consistent with prior laws and cases, even in Europe, and also not consistent with provisions of the Berne Convention and other international law.

WEW.

>and were ordered by the court to block access from Germany

Not quite true:

Q: What does the judgement say must be done? Are there fines or penalties?
A: The full judgement (original German, and translated into English) are linked above. Basically, the Court granted all of the Plaintiff's demands:

    1. Remove the 18 books, or at least make sure they are not available from Germany. PGLAF complied by blocking access to www.gutenberg.org for all of Germany.
    2. Provide a listing of all the downloads that have occurred for the 18 items, so that licensing fees or other fines may be assessed. PGLAF has already told the Court that no such records exist, because Web server logs are only maintained for approximately 2 months.
    3. Pay Court costs, assessed at 50% of total costs. The amount is not yet known.

Btw S. Fischer Verlag is owned by kikes. Also the law firm they hired is well known in Germany for sendig masses of cease and desist letters because of >muh piracy.

Q: The plaintiff is S. Fischer Verlag, GmbH. Is that the international conglomerate?
A: Yes, it is part of a family of companies all under single ownership and control or majority stakeholdership, from Germany, reaching around the world. S. Fischer Verlag, GmbH is a unit of Verlagsgruppe Georg Holtzbrinck GmbH. Internationally it is known in the US and elsewhere as Holtzbrinck Publishers LLC. Readers in the US know this as Macmillan, which is one of the largest publishers in the US by revenue, and owns many familiar imprints. US readers might also recall that Macmillan was one of four companies accused by the US Dept. of Justice in 2012 of price fixing. The companies eventually settled the antitrust claims, including by giving credits to customers who had overpaid for eBooks.

>>878700

Holy shit you actual fucking retard. They are all listed in the fucking link the faggot OP posted.

Kill yourself you retarded fucker.

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>>878515

>/pol/ is fugged

Woah, hello newfag. I wouldn't have been cruising this autistic board if that weren't the case... It's been several years now, really, it's only become apparent since the election is over

>>878364 (OP)

>Germany

>Censoring Gutenberg

It's like the 15th century all over again.

>>878389

Besides 70 year copyright being stupid, it should be the Germany government who should try to block access. They have no business telling project Gutenberg what to do with their website as long as they are obeying the law of the country they're based in.

Oh, wait. The copyright mafia actually made copyright a matter of international law. I wonder if they could do the same with, I don't know, freedom of speech? Nah, that's not important.