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Acceptable DE's:
<LXQt
<Xfce
<Mate
<Budgie (bloat but is good)
Stay away from: GNOME, KDE and LXDE. GNOME is useless, KDE is buggy and LXDE is now deprecated by LXQt
Acceptable non-tiling window managers:
<Openbox
<IceWM
<9wm
<Sawfish
<FVWM
<wmii (hybrid)
Stay away from: Fluxbox, more memory consuming version of Openbox with no added features
Acceptable tiling window managers:
<StumpWM
<wmii (hybrid)
<bspwm
<i3 (non-gaps)
Stay away from: Ratpoison/Awesome, ratpoison is bloated for what it is (that's why the creator made stumpwm) and awesome is just a complete mess (programmed in lua for some reason)
▶ No.871042>>871057
It really doesn't matter. All DEs are basically the same at this point
▶ No.871047>>871049
Where is cwm and herbstluftwm? and you've got it backwards; stumpwm is bloated and has a lot of useless features - use ratpoison.
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>>871047
the developer made it because ratpoison was bloated and had useless features lul
▶ No.871052
>>871049
Emacs must also be lightweight according to you.
▶ No.871054
>>871049
Also, see: https://github.com/stumpwm/stumpwm
>If you want a minimalist tiling window manager, then StumpWM is not what you're looking for. The code base is ~15k sloc, the binaries produced are ~60mb.
▶ No.871057
>>871042
>All DEs are basically the same at this point
Same can be said about systemd/linux #127
▶ No.871067>>871124
>Fluxbox, more memory consuming version of Openbox with no added features
Fluxbox has tabbed windows and doesn't use retarded xml configs.
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>>871072
What's that dock?
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>>871068
Sorry, remembered it as I was posting it. Used it for a while on Gentoo but switched to Solus a little while back
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Actually, FVWM is extensible enough that it can be a tiling WM.
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>>871040 (OP)
>Acceptable tiling window managers
<dwm isnt in the list
Go fuck yourself, you bloated nigger.
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>>871040 (OP)
>Acceptable DE's:
dwm and stay away from mouse/pointing device cancer.
▶ No.871111
twm, CDE and Motif did nothing wrong
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>>871067
fluxbox's pure text configs really are quite elegant compared to openbox nest of horrors
▶ No.871127
>>871124
There is nothing wrong with XML.
There is everything wrong with XML.
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▶ No.871150>>879186
GNOME: useless, but pretty
Xfce: awesome. Just werks.
KDE: tons of features but sometimes buggy. Good if your usecase requires something more advanced than Xfce. Suffers from NIH (for example, developing their own office suite even though LibreOffice exists)
▶ No.871151
you forgot spectrwm faggot
▶ No.871175
>>871040 (OP)
>having a desktop environment
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>>871040 (OP)
What's wrong with gaps? It's comfy.
▶ No.871183
>>871108
read
>>871074
you zipperhead
▶ No.871184>>871185
Just tried out a bunch of wms this week. But they weren't very good.
WMs have terrible defaults. A LOT of them open onto a desktop with zero anything. Or if it's not autistic just some terrible theme. In fact getting X working on a new system is one of the most disappointing parts.
As for DEs they are gay shit trying to install login managers are weird stuff.
▶ No.871185
>>871184
That's why you install the core versions of the DE's.
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>>871180
I have 3 screens and its still not enough space, cant waste it on fucking dead zones
▶ No.871190>>879273
Cinnamon is a good DE.
I still like LXDE although I've been using LXQt currently.
You didn't mention JWM as window manager, which is a pretty good one.
▶ No.871195>>871502
>>871040 (OP)
why would you consciously install a DE? they are some bloated shit put into normie friendly distros by default to help people be familiar coming from windows (and now android/iphone)
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>>871040 (OP)
can someone compare the ram usage of e in wayland against mate in x?
i wanna use wayland and someone said e is kinda light but i dont believe them enough to waste my time or hard disk space without a second opinion
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>>871197
LESS!?!?!?!? REALLY!?!?!?!?
i was expecting a bit more if it was even close at all...
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>>871195
people don't use DE's because they're too stupid to use window managers, if you think otherwise you're retarded
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>>871502
thats pretty harsh bro, also can be disproven pretty easily, more like theyre too lazy or just want something easy, after all, once your comfortable in a terminal [emulator or ctrl+alt+f2 tty] every distro becomes about equally hardcore regardless of de or wm...
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>>871511
Check your reading comprehension.
▶ No.871549
>>871511
Check your double digits.
▶ No.872339>>872403 >>879273
Cinnamon the target has decent specs, Xfce for toasters. Everything else is a waste of time.
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>>871040 (OP)
but budgie depends on gnome, and cinnamon is better than both, if you got the ram to spare anyway...
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>>871104
This. It takes a little fine tuning and minor styling to make it more useful, but it's very good. I'm getting up there in age though, so I have little time to extensively rice my setup. Gnome just works.
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▶ No.872403
Being on the linux world since not much, and I started with Ubuntu MATE. Good style with good starting tools, not bloated, and user-friendly interface. Then again, is my first distro, and altought I used virtual machine for testing multiple distros & DE, its not the same. In what ways should i test a DE to truly see how it is? And with XFCE being so much recommended, I would like to ask what, besides being light and low spec, advantages have the DE over the others, or at least over MATE?
>>872339
>Cinnamon the target has decent specs
So MATE isnt? Cinnamon its just Windows environment copy+pasted. Mate at least have something new or not as much windows like style.
▶ No.879186
>>871150
>NIH
Mostly because a lot of applications use GTK, which look ugly with a primarily Qt desktop. Especially LibreOffice, which uses its own "adaptive" toolkit that looks even worse than native GTK on KDE.
▶ No.879438>>879476 >>879496
Just started using bspwm and it fucking rocks, kicks the shit out of i3. Supports gaps out of the box. If you can't configure it you're probably a nigger. Default keybindings of sxhkd kick ass and take names. Only took me 2-3 minutes to get it up and running and it works fantastically. Highly recommend.
I will be using it for the next few years at the very least.
▶ No.879464
Anything decent for hi-res displays? xrandr scaling is unusably slow on some of my systems
KDE seems best for scaling so far, but it does crash on me from time to time
Gnome might be decent (except that it also crashes) and removing the shitbar at the top or the titlebar of maximized windows always feels hacky. Scaling is better than most but not as complete as KDE's
xfce is pretty comfy except that it also crashes and scaling is limited to fonts or xrandr
if I could figure out how to get it to work smoothly with battery notifications and other DE-like stuff, I might try i3 or awesome-wm again some day
I'm not much familiar with others... Am I missing out?
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>>879438
>bspwm
>The default configuration file is $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/bspwm/bspwmrc
redhat/linux cancer
▶ No.879491
>>879476
That isn’t even close to how I have it set up because I’m not a nigger but I guess you’d probably set it up like that huh?
I agree that Redhat is cancer though. I’ll give you that one. What WM do you use?
▶ No.879496>>879511
>>879438
If you are coming from i3, I reccomend using the euclid mover script.
>>879476
You don't need to have $XDG_CONFIG_HOME defined though. It will default to .config.
The only xdg package I have is a version of xdg-utils with a patch I made to remove it's dependency on dbus, which essentially gimps it.
▶ No.879503
What is even the difference between LXDE and LXQt? I doubt they recoded Openbox. Did they just replace lxpanel with their lame Qt version?
▶ No.879510
Daily reminder: Patricians use bspwm instead of i3 (or i3-fags).
▶ No.879511>>879817 >>879887
>>879496
Can you link this script?
▶ No.879817>>879887
>>879511
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Chrysostomus/bspwm-scripts/master/bin/euclid_mover
Switch your keybind in sxhkdrc to
alt + shift + {j,k,l,semicolon}
euclid_mover {west,south,north,east}
If you are using the default keybindings you'll need to shift the j,k,l,semicolon one to the left on the keyboard.
▶ No.879887
>>879511
>>879817
Don't forget to delete
bspc config pointer_follows_focus true
from the script.