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https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/263510-intel-wants-leverage-optane-eliminate-local-pc-storage-altogether

Fucking link

intel never again. sorry Moore.

I tried to warn you. Why didn't you listen? It's too late now.

>>816993

>>866466 (OP)

You don't need Optaine for that, diversity hires must e behind this """innovation""".

>>866466 (OP)

And then, just like Microdick tried to push its shitty SpyBotnet10 onto people, making them entrench themselves into using Windows 7/8, or switching to Linux, this will just make people steer away from intel FURTHER.

I'm completely ok with this

>>866472

What a coincidence, Google is doing the same thing with their diversity language Go. Trying to move all storage, and by consequence data, out of the user's ownership.

>>866477

>>866475

I somehow feel like that wouldn't be very viable with Burgerland infrastructure. I don't care where you stand on NN--I know for one of you idiots, that's going to be your kneejerk reaction, but I assure you that's a totally irrelevant issue--American infrastructure just sucks.

>>866477

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1pGB4CncKDE

>>866477

That is not what Go is designed to do, you're fucking retarded.

this doesn't even make sense, storage is getting smaller and faster why put it in some server some where.

>>866491

I want to believe it's a jewish trick but I have to concede that it's simply San Fran retardation.

>>866488

Upspin is designed to do THAT specifically. Upspin is written in Go. Go is Google's diversity language. Therefore Google is using their diveristy language to do THAT.

>>866494

>>866491

A quote, from Rob Pike's Upspin manifesto:

You don't own your data any more. One argument is that companies own it,
but from a strict user perspective, your "apps" own it. Each item you use in
the modern mobile world is coupled to the program that manipulates it. Your
Twitter, Facebook, or Google+ program is the only way to access the
corresponding feed. Sometimes the boundary is softened within a company
—photos in Google+ are available in other Google products—but that is the
exception that proves the rule. You don't control your data, the programs do.

>>866491

Digital fiefdom.

>>866498

If you are a slave of google like him, sure. I use none of those disservices.

>>866491

Charge rent for every access. Collect profitable data

>>866483

The shift happened when smartphones became a thing. YOU stopped being the target market for "computers", and normalfags took your place. It's very curious to go back and look at relatively simple things like mp3 players. They were huge, they were popular, everyone had one, and every year new ones came out with ever better sound interfaces and larger storage. We had 160GB iPods and 250GB knockoffs. Then the iPhone happened and that dropped like a fucking rock. 8GB and 16GB was it. You really shelled out for the ultra premium 32GB version. The fact that a 64GB version of ANYTHING exists feels like a begrudging yield on their part.

Normalfags don't own music. They don't have CD's or vast collections stored on their hard drives. They listen to Spotify (with commercials). They watch YouTube (with commercials). They take photos directly to instagram and facebook without ever even having them land on the phone's storage. They use Google Docs for school papers, and Google Drive for collaboration. These fucking animals really truly and honestly do not have one god damn use for local storage becuase they really don't own anything. If not for all of the video games they rent on Steam they wouldn't even have disks in their computers, but fuck me if they even play them since they'd rather watch someone else stream it instead.

>>866504

>Normalfags don't own music. They don't have CD's or vast collections stored on their hard drives. They listen to Spotify (with commercials). They watch YouTube (with commercials).

I dislike DRM, but I think streaming media someone else created is not objectable in itself.

Now, uploading every piece of you data you have and create to cloud providers by default, that's a huge issue, but I don't know how to steer people away from that.

It's too convenient to go away, too profitable for companies, and too powerful for anyone with access to the data.

How hard would it be to install GNU/Linux with this? How would you make a new partition? Do you just get one partition and you would have to somehow overwrite Windows(tm) with GNU/Linux hoping that it won't crash in the process of doing so?

>>866514

USB will not die quickly, idiot. PCIe will not die either.

>>866491

>this doesn't even make sense, storage is getting smaller and faster why put it in some server some where.

of course it makes sense:

-if files of all people are in cloud, all illegal or uneasy files documents videos can be removed from all users easily. new level of censorship. no more whistleblowing or "dangerous" viral videos

-if files of all people are in cloud, the cloud owner owns those people and can block their files and ask thousands of dollars to give access back

-if files are in cloud, you cannot have proper encryption

>>866532

>HDD-tier at best

Lol I fucking WISH I could get HDD tier upload speeds.

>>866519

>Long term, the company wants to push all local storage out of the market altogether.

>all local storage

>>866535

I get 50MB/s max upload which is flash drive-tier speeds

>>866535

>upload

You're supposed to consume, goy.

Intel wants whatever pays their bills. They're hoping for more investor money by coming up with creative ideas. Just don't buy their botnet shit.

>>866504

>We had 160GB iPods and 250GB knockoffs. Then the iPhone happened and that dropped like a fucking rock. 8GB and 16GB was it. You really shelled out for the ultra premium 32GB version.

The iPhag had nothing to do with it. It's the rise of affordable (in reasonable quantities) flash storage causing people to realize how utterly shit mechanical HDDs are for any device that's not fixed in place while it's working.

>>866504

Normalfags. Not even once.

>>866466 (OP)

This is exactly why I keep all my hentai personal data on a harddrive that I only access with a machine that has no connection to the internet. You know that (((intel))) will upload anything you do to their servers for (((performance analysis)))

>>866466 (OP)

*encrypts data locally*

*uploads 5 TB to the cloud*

whatcha gonna do now, jew boi?

>optane

suddenly everyone forgot turbo memory and Intel's tricks from 9 years ago, wow. koi fish attention span technology enthusiasts

>>866594

>implying your encryption software isn't backdoored

HA

>>866611

>implying it will even be legal to encrypt data in the near future

>>866614

>implying there will be a way to even detect if something is encrypted or not

>>866614

The government themselves rely on encryption so it's going to be a fucking feild day for law makers to draft regulations against encryption without potentially self-destructive vague wording.

>>866560

mechanical hdd's were never a problem for the ipod. You are full of shit.

#NotYourGoyim

Intel is going to shut up and beg like a good little bitch if it wants me to even consider its shitty NVMe sticks over the Samsung ones going into my next Zen machine.

What if I told all of you that Optane was designed only for this reason and that they’ve had the technology to make an all in one SSD/RAM replacement for a long time but it will never happen because it isn’t profitable or make it easier to spy on people.

>>866679

Do SSDs have the read/write lifespan to justify sticking them in a RAM slot?

>>866684

Yes. You might need to restrict the RAM size. IIRC with modern drives you could overwrite the whole drive every single day and it would still be under warranty over a year later.

>>866466 (OP)

I can see those 300M$ have been bearing their fruit

>>866692

RAM is overwritten thousands of times a day. SSD lifetime writes are measured in the thousands. This isn't adding up unless something significant has changed.

>>866692

>>>/g/

>>866707

400 / 0.5 = 8000 writes.

>>866710

800

>>866712

(1200*1000*1000*1000*1000)/(8*1024*1024*1024) = 139698

assuming an 8GiB ramdisk

>>866719

Are you ok? WTF do those numbers mean?

Let's try the next one down:

800 terabits written over a 1 terabit drive is 800 writes, assuming it is evenly written, but who knows what these marketers are thinking.

>>866722

1200 TerraBytes divided by 8 GibiBytes

>>866731

Go write to your mom's SSD a thousand times, kid.

>>866722

Ok, it is terabytes. I made a mistake. The result is still the same. Tell your tulpas to lay off the psychic harassment, would ya? I'm trying to enjoy my weekend.

>>866538

my point being that local storage cannot be removed even with thin clients due to the fact that computers are multipurpose

Intel simply can't win

If those jews desire almighty control over content, they should have invested in television programming

CPU as a Service.

That's a nice future to look forward to.

>>866748

>due to the fact that computers are multipurpose

Then they will make computers singlepurpose. They could decide to make every single new computer a Chromebook and there's nothing you could to do stop them.

>>866771

There's always old hardware, and I'm sure free hardware and competing standards will become increasingly more common. Normalfags made their bed, they can lie in it.

>>866790

>there's always old hardware

>what is Seagate and WD backdoors

Might as well buy this intel shit

>>866793

>HURR everything is backdoored may as well just put everything on the cloud anyway.

Stop being an idiot.

good luck convincing the population

>>866803

"The population" doesn't have a strong opinion about local storage versus locally cached remote storage. The best you're going to get out of most people is a preference for things that work, because there are a lot of important things in the world, and any one person can only care about a limited number of them at a time.

If it benefits them and they can get it to perform reasonably well they can make it work.

>>866594

>*encrypts data locally*

>*uploads 5 TB to the cloud*

And how exactly are you going to do that if the only local storage are a few MB of buffer?

>>866807

You can encrypt as you upload.

>>866807

Gee I don't know how are cellular data streams encrypted?

>>866466 (OP)

It was clear for years where this is going. In ten years from now IME will load UEFI which will initialize a 5G radio and IPv6 and boot straight to botnet.

>>866532

>Develop Optane as a faster accessory to HDD storage

>Only to force people to use the network to access their files which will always be slower

>Effective speeds on optane are now HDD-tier at best

>For what purpose?

You know, for the (((PROGRESS))) and being (((MODERN))).

>>866563

>Normalfags. Not even once.

maybe it's time to kill them, to protect technology and world?

>>866594

>*encrypts data locally*

>*uploads 5 TB to the cloud*

how will you do that with zero local storage and having Certified Backdoored Intel CPU and Management Engine?

>>866475

>thinking this will drive people away.

>thinking anything Intel, microdick, or Apple do will affect sales of their latest and greatest affordable gamer parts and systems for "real work."

Think of this as an opportunity for something to replace Intel and x86.

This whole Upspin/cloud storage thing is a good idea in theory. It's 2018 and we're still carrying around flashdrives and emailing ourselves files. But I would only ever use cloud storage if I could run a server myself or could easily switch between servers. If cloud storage were monopolized by one company, I wouldn't be able to trust them not to play fast and loose with it.

>>866839

Upspin is poisoned by default because it relies on a central key server owned and operated by Google.

>>866839

>emailing ourselves files

Speak for yourself you disgusting normalfag

>>866833

It's not just that.

I know this sounds like supreme conspiracy theory shit, and I cringe writing this, but :

How do driverless cars fit into all this?

It's kind of like 'the cloud', oh it's practical and everything, but one day people who can actually drive themselves or find a non-driverless vehicle will be a minority.

>>866466 (OP)

What the fuck? Why?

>>866860

No, I would agree with you. Actually strangely enough, that sort of tangentially works it's way into the short story that we wrote. It's 1998AD, up here if you want to read it:

https://archive.org/details/lainzinev1n3

>>866860

Look in the other direction through history. Humans have been moving toward a borg-like superorganisim since we stopped being hunter-gatherers.

Kingdoms>countries>nations>continental unions>?

Technology has been following a very similar march. We're becoming a single entity.

>>866931

Yup, we're parts in conscious entitites akin to the ant state in Gödel, Escher, Bach

>>866856

The issue with Intel's engineers is that they all live in big, metropolitan areas and have great incomes while the majority of the USworld does not. They're out of touch with the real situation.

>>866949

And how long have you been here exactly

>>866949

Have you ever heard of Microsoft?

>>866833

>We were going to make a dystopian cyberpunk project, but only a couple people really followed through. We did make some graphics and concept art though.

So it's a multi-media performance art LARP where we make a bunch of media that gets people thinking about the dystopian future they'll soon be living in? Sounds kind of fun, we'd have to go beyond just memes though; you could do like a vlog series where you act as a cyber-criminal on the run or something.

>>866833

>>866860

>>866931

>>866934

Althou I can't argue with your logic concluded form current events, I'll just add that there's also a Tower of Babel myth. And this myth can be applied to many small scale tech, or tech-related things that happened in the past.

The overcomplication of the entire tech sector combined with economics and social aspect can and already is bringing the need for AI. The problem with AI is - we can't really predict the outcome, thus - we can't plan and strategize in the future. And in the outcome - we can't control anything. This brings so many high-level problems, it just makes my head hot.

The funniest, most ridicule and twisted scenario for me would be, if by necessity we create an AI which destroys all tech, including itself, after finding that those are real threats to survival of human species. Sending us back in middle ages filled with wars, barbarism and sexual selection based on good and strong genotype.

>>866972

>The funniest, most ridicule and twisted scenario for me would be, if by necessity we create an AI which destroys all tech, including itself, after finding that those are real threats to survival of human species. Sending us back in middle ages filled with wars, barbarism and sexual selection based on good and strong genotype.

when google recruits uncle teddy

>>866952

very much doubt this kid even existed when Windows XP Reduced Media Edition was a thing

>>866951

>>866952

>responding to >>866949 who wrote /tech/ like he was writing out the name a subreddit.

>responding to redditfags

polite sage for off topic

>>866972

The key is to not be in the shadow of Babel as it collapses. That's all anyone can do at this point. Let the Jews, spics, and nigs take the suicidal retards, and prepare to make mad cash when they destroy themselves and their businesses. This trash only seems dire because sane people must keep their thoughts hidden.

Looks like the guy claiming windows will stop being distributed as versions and be a service you subscribe to was right.

Fuck intel, and fuck microsoft.

>>867138

Man, I never even considered the OS implications of this. The entire OS could be part of that service that gets streamed down under this scenario.

All the "geeks" and "techies" were just tools and useful idiots who helped the corporations and goverments to popularize and spread computing and society's depencence on it. They thought they will always have more power over tech than normies, but that difference is quickly diminishing, and in the end they will be slaves to the botnet all the same and just as powerless to it as the normies.

>>866889

Not accurate

>2070

>CloudPU (CPU) replaces traditional computers - most computing is done is localized micro-servers and streamed seamlessly to your device using (Nth)Gen networks- personal devices don't actually compute but last weeks on one charge and are extremely cheap

>IoT evolves into the Internet of EveryThing(s) after the invention of MDAR (Mass Data Analysis and Reconstruction) algoritimns and proliferation of integrated surgically-accurate device sensors

>MDARs are programs that collect enormous amouns of information from devices and stiches it together to create a virtual "model" of the world in real-time. 99% of data is collected from civillian-"owned" devices. Neural networks implemented above the recreation to report and predict activity on an individual and global level. Also used to macro traffic for driverless cars

>Actual coding is strictly reserved for artistic purposes (games and webpage design) Non-entertainment "Programmers" just assign a genetic algorithm/neural network to create project solutions. Organizations don't actually understand how their solutions work anymore

>"Manual" cars (or regular cars) aren't manufactured at all. Driverless, electric cars rule the streets, hackers not possible due to MDAR and the rarity of actual computing components

>corporationd buy up rural land, more and more people "forced" into urban areas. Urban sprawl reverses.

>anyone seen with an old-style vehicle or car is seen as "paranoid"

>internet is free, but filled with ads and ToS/EULAs

> government and corporations create Algorithms to personally blackmail citizens. In other words, Seasame credit

>Everything you do online tied to real name and identity

>VR is a meme, AR catches on

>travel becomes exponentially more convienient and efficient due to self driving cars, more and more people become Cool Hip International Hedonists

>soy, nut, and insect protein based diet

>realistic robotic companions

>Ted Kacyzinski becomes immortal by uploading his mind into a punchcard machine, then proceeds to virtually hang himself

>cancer, alzheimers, and autism aren't cured, majority of population suicides after 60-70 years old

>augments don't exist

>>867151

Probably similar to what >866823 said. All the "computer" is is some "management engine", UEFI, 5G radio with an IPv6 stack, a basic I/O (touchscreen/camera/speakers/microphone, possible the last three will all be integrated into the touchscreen somehow eventually), everything on a single SoC chip. ME/UEFI initializes the I/O and the 5G/IPv6 and boot off botnet is the only way for the device to do anything useful.

>>867138

Bring back the glory days of DOS/Win98SE/WinXP. Since 2007 everything started going to shit

<Vista, iPhone, "Web 2.0", "social media", IME introduced

and since 2012 it started going to shit completely

<Windows 8.x followed by 10, "smartphones" the only relevant phones, "flat design" everywhere and websited drowning it metric tons of javascript, small websites dead, forums dead (killed off by "social media", faecesbook formostly, systemd cancer eats one Linux distro after another, IME on virtually every Intel platform

>>866889

>>867155

>2070

>[alluhackabr intensifies]

>back in comfy middle ages

computers/datacenters/interwebs no more

>>867166

1925-1954 - age of computing pioneers

1955-1984 - age of the mainframe and the terminal

1985-2014 - age of the personal computer and free internet

2012-2044 - age of the cloud and smartphone

2045 - muh technological singularity

>>867191

>2012

*2015, duh

>>867173

So the purpose of snackbarbarianism is to prevent tech singularity?

>>866506

>Now, uploading every piece of you data you have and create to cloud providers by default, that's a huge issue, but I don't know how to steer people away from that.

The main concern is upload bandwidth. I'd never go along with that because I record videos and host a small game server for an old fps game. I simply don't have the bandwidth to support both at the same time.

>>867282

The 2045 figure for the technological singularity is Ray Kurzweil's prediction. However, it fits surprisingly well with the concept of "computing age" eras of roughly 30 years, with major changes of paradigms happening in the 1950s (from random and dispersed pioneering efforts to an established mainframe-terminal model), 1980s (change from the former to a model based on personal computers and a free internet), and 2010s (change from the former which gave maximum freeedom to the average user back to a centrally controlled model with end nodes being mostly passive computation-wise, only this time in the form of "smart" (the irony!) devices and IoT appliances, with "the cloud" being a reincarnation of the old mainframe, only in globalized form).

>>867284

Based on those past experience, the 2040s are to be expected to bring forth another great change in the way computing shapes our civilization - it remains to be seen whether it will indeed be the "singularity" prophecized by the likes of Kurzweil and other "transhumanists", or something else entirely.

>>867299

Thanks for the information.

>blackpilling

>implying security updates and shitty driver bloat from stupid devs won't cause the 'thin' clients to have at least 10 gigs of flash memory embedded

>implying we can have a revolution on less than a gigabye

Why do you think I collect floppies?

>>867173

hooray

NEVER WILL I BUY ANYTHING INTEL IN MY LIFE AGAIN

FUCK THOSE JEWS

Didn't you guys read the news?

Le "5G" networks are supposed to lower the latency down to 1 nanosecond (questionable, between what and what exactly, the user's device and tower or remote server?) and "bring near-perfect timing response for cloud-run software applications". It all also comes with handy features like spatial positioning with 0,1 cubic meter accuracy.

My biggest disappointment would be is that if all this "radio-wave induced cancer" thing would turn out to be true given the mass scale of adoption, then we won't be having community-run free wireless distributed mesh networks either, exactly because of that.

>eliminate local pc storage altogether

This is like saying that nobody is allowed to own any books anymore and is only allowed to access and read them via a library in a strictly controlled manner.

First forcing a transition to making all kinds of data (text, images, music and other audio, videos, whatever) digital files on computers ("get rid of all those paper books, photos, analog music and video recordings, it's $CURRENTYEAR!") and subsequently taking them away and making them impossible to store locally... it's hard to come up with a proper term for such a move.

>>867332

>1 nanosecond

It would have to violate the laws of physics to be that low, unless the devices are around 20-25 centimeters apart. Light in a vacuum takes about 3 nanoseconds to travel one meter. That's not even factoring how long it takes for data to be processed.

That's why local storage will still be required for any time-sensitive operations, especially for things like AI. That's why there's a push to make certain machine learning tasks local end and likely use the cloud to "enhance" device functionality instead.

It would be more useful for Intel to consolidate processing, memory and storage into one chip design and have it function as an IoT node to contribute as part of the distributed cloud itself. Then they'd be utilizing the sum of every device connected to the internet as one global distributed cloud network to do as they please. In that case it wouldn't matter if it's "locally" stored or not, as all hardware itself would be made to function as a open cloud component at its core.

>>867347

>smartphones become a literal botnet

wew

>>867347

>consolidate processing, memory and storage into one chip

So an APU with on-package NAND?

>>867347

>>867350

Or NVRAM even

>>867348

>2007: Microsoft C&D's the Autopatcher project on the grounds of them redistributing Microsoft updates which Microsoft considers unacceptable and in violation of its licenses and terms (as a result Autopatcher is forced to change the way it operates henceforth fetching all the updates directly from Microsoft servers)

>2015: Microsoft's update system becomes a literal botnet, distributing the updates between end user machines on a P2P basis, being in total contradiction to their attitude from 2007

>>867191

Why do you date 2014 as the end of free internet? You would be better off saying there were never free internet, at least not after mass spread of internet and patriot act.

>>867347

I've completely fucked up, that was 1 millisecond.

>>867381

Walled-in gardens and widespread lock-in by a few giant websites/services accessed predominantly via dedicated "apps" don't have much in common with the wild frontier the internet once was.

>>867386

>all MS software before Vista was shit

>Vista was the cure to everything

Whew, ok buddy, if you say so.

>>867397

7 was the savior not vista you dumdum

<Intel’s basic idea is that consumers would have an Intel Optane drive as a cache drive (how large is not specified), with all other data being streamed out of the cloud.

Do they also want people to store most of their brains in "the cloud", with an optane cache drive ("how large is not specified to not upset the brainlets") and a 5G radio in their skull instead?

Seriously though, this isn't even funny anymore. The madmen want a literal global botnet of everything, with all data under exclusive "cloud" (i.e. whoever operates it) scrutiny and control.

>>867401

>WHOOPS, we accidentally left a huge gaping security hole that's intrinsic to the hardware itself due to our own incompetence

>We're going to have to patch out free will

>>867398

7 was no "saviour". It was just Vista SP3. Most of what was botched in Vista was botched in 7 as well. It's just that by the time 7 came around new hardware was better supporting NT6.x, 7 had better driver support, users grew accustomed to what changed between NT5 and NT6, Microsoft learned from the Vista debacle and supported 7 with a much better PR campaing, etc. etc. Oh, and 7's blue colours were much more attractive than Vista's sickly black-green-yellow. That's about it.

>>867414

All i see is better code in the newer version.

Based Microsoft.

>This is not really local storage guise, please let us be part of that big ol' clood scheme.

Intel didn't start the "everything should be 100% cloud" mania. They're just trying to shill some of their shitty no-good hardware into the process hoping to become a part of it too.

>>867416

>pajeet-tier

>better

>>867425

>He can't comprehend basic sarcasm

you are not ever going to convince the population to give up all their data into some place they have no control of, its never going to happen, it doesnt make anything better and it doesnt help anyone in any way technically, introducing servers into every day things that dont need them is as counterproductive as it gets

cloud only works if theres technical reason why it makes something more convenient, most of the time there isnt

>>866466 (OP)

These fucking niggers have nerve thinking that anyone would trust them MORE.

>>866504

>These fucking animals

This. The "I'm not doing anything wrong I have nothing to hide" type niggerbrains are AIDS trash that would die out of the gene pool but we're not supposed to have a conversation about eugenics and genocide for some reason.

>>816993

>You'll have a chip implated into your brain

Looking at their "no local storage" policy, it seems like they plan to surgically remove the parts of your brain that hold memories. That's very sensible actually, that way you won't have to worry about infringing on their patents and copyrights and illegal memories can be immediately deleted and replaced with a history of legal memories. Very sensible.

The thing about 5G is that when everyone adopts it, we'll all have high-speed internet on the go, but most of us will die from EMF poisoning, brain cancer and the like. Invest in lead.

"Bank of England wants to stop issuing silver and gold coins, and switch to paper promisory notes valued the same amount, allowing the bank to charge money every time you want to see your gold..."

It's basically the same concept, intel wants to charge you for bandwidth (AT&T gives them a cut) every time you want to see that picture of yourself having fun twenty years ago when fun was allowed while at the same time selling your entire life story to advertisers. It's worth a fucktone more money to Intel than just selling you silicon.

Anyway the cloud is dead because not everyone has access to the internet, and internet speeds are shit and overpriced as is, only absolute troglodytes would fall for such an obvious scam.

Does this mean harddrives won't be sold to the public anymore in 10 years?

>>867548

Maybe, but that'll probably be because spinning rust would fall out of favor in the consumer market for ssd's.

>>867155

time to rape some normalfags, i guess.

>Everything you do online tied to real name and identity

dont they do that in china now?

>>867476

you mean silicon valley companies?

they are literally shoveling shit at normies thats why its even in use, and gets immideatly replaced when any company with local solution comes around

>>867574

>dont they do that in china now?

Big portals only iirc, it's not enforced much otherwise for now.

In Korea however...

>>867412

Well, it did make UAC much less intrusive than in Vista and significantly improved compatibility with older programs. Two worst gripes people had with Vista. It was also leaner and more usable on underpowered hardware if you turned off desktop compositing. Yes, it should have been offered as a free service pack for Vista suckers users.

>>867548

I don't expect them to remain competitive in 5 years tbh. SSDs are getting larger and cheaper by the year. HDDs - not so much.

>>866594

>whatcha gonna do now, jew boi?

Have the Management Engine steal and upload 32 bytes of your encryption key instead of 5TB of data.

>>866632

You'll be the one saddled with the burden of proof though.

>>866633

It's not really that hard to make laws apply only to goyim. Belarus does that already, btw.

>>866640

Except delays when seeking and random dropouts when playing while shaking the device (say running with it). And of course reduced service life if using it this way often. No thanks.

>>866684

They can't be used like normal RAM, but it does make sense to use the DDRx interface to utilise its high bandwidth and low latency. You need an OS kernel capable of recognising and properly using flash-based DDR sticks to extract good performance and prevent their premature breakage.

>>866790

>and I'm sure jews will stop jewing

Yeah, like that will happen.

>>866807

>not having multiple TB of RAM needed to run all the JavaScript on an average website AD 2030.

The future is NOT now. You don't have the RAM to handle it.

>>867168

>We Akira now

I'm okay with that.

>>867319

banner-worthy post

>>867397

Well, it was M$'s first serious attempt to design the OS right from the security standpoint. Which is ridiculously hard to do when you have to maintain compatibility with apps written for the security clusterfuck that was earlier Windows versions. Given those constraints, Vista was actually a quite amazing feat of engineering.

>>867156

Intel bought up the promising zero client companies. Your "computer" won't even be a computer, it'll be a custom ASIC implementing VNC in hardware.

>>867467

It's as if you've never met a normalfag in your life.

>>867350

>>867352

I'm thinking something more experimental like using a neuromorphic chip architecture. Considering the growing interest in AI such an architecture will be essential for practical applications on device. Since its pretty much a hardware neural network, it would have to be capable of processing and memorizing data on chip.

The reason I think this is where Intel is really heading is because Intel has already developed a neuromophic chip code-named Loihi. So it would make sense for them to figure out how to make it function like an AI with OS functionality, scale it up by orders of magnitude and ultimately experiment with a cloud scalable AI. Though right now this chip is merely an research prototype that universities are able to experiment with. So this is more a long term goal most likely.

>>866644

Ha.

I used a cloud today

does that make me a bad man?

>>867545

Cyber FED

OK, let's assume we're back to year 2000, with the last Windows version which took the user completely seriously (Windows 2000) and the last non-gimmick Intel CPU line (Pentium III). How can whatever has gone wrong be prevented? How should the PC platfom evolve (in contrast to how it has, leading us to where we arrived in 2018)?

>>866469

>expecting dipshits on an 8chan board to be able to do anything about it

you're dealing with people do retarded they actually use gentoo, slackware, void and arch unironically

<https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/263510-intel-wants-leverage-optane-eliminate-local-pc-storage-altogether

<INTHELL

<"Abandon all local storage (and all hope) ye who enter here"

>>868440

>they actually use gentoo, slackware, void and arch unironically

What would be wrong with these (Arch is systemd, but the rest)?

>>868435

You wanna play pretend?

>>867155

>hacking not possible because of lack of computing components.

>But there are sensors everywhere

I guess these sensors transmit data by analog.

>>867155

>2070

I'm afraid it's more like 2040 or something. If it was 2070 many of us wouldn't live to witness (suffer) it, but unfortunately we probably will due to this sort of scenario looming much closer on the horizon.

>>868443

Sure, go ahead. First problems to tackle would probably be avoiding the retardedness in Pentium 4 and XP.

>>868441

>>867917

<"Abandon all local storage (and all hope) ye who enter here"

IN-TEL-(((AVIV)))-FERNO

>>866723

“I think if we had the chance, we would end it very quickly, Just casually walking on the streets of San francisco, coming back from the gay bar. Going back to his flat and he is casually poked by a passerby. He thinks nothing of it at the time starts to feel a little woozy and thinks it’s a parasite from the local gay bar. He goes home very innocently and next thing you know he dies in the shower.”

>>867641

>32 bytes for encryption

Maybe you are fucking stupid.

>>867674

They certainly are, but if he would want genocide them all, mabye I would end up killed too. I'm not a programmer, I don't wanna be one, but still care about privacy and stand by my principles.

>>866504

MOAR! keep on ranting man

>They listen to Spotify (with commercials). They watch YouTube (with commercials). They take photos directly to instagram and facebook without ever even having them land on the phone's storage. They use Google Docs for school papers, and Google Drive for collaboration.

(((They))) need our data and feelings, because they're incapable of experiencing their own. Through harvesting normalfags' emotions and daily life stories they want to enable themselves to be part of this game of human life which is playing out on this planet which won't succeed for them though.

Always remember: All the so called "bad" in this world only serves the purpose that each and every one can actively choose to not be part of it. It's by design that (((they))) will always leave some little "holes" that you can escape through to not be part of the system. That you won't take part in normalfags daily life then is another side of the story but you always have a choice.

>>866506

>I don't know how to steer people away from that.

you could start by making them not retarded enough to listen to music over retarded "streaming" mediums

>>866514

they could do something like mediatek does so you cant install custom roms on your phone.

>>866466 (OP)

They can't get more blatant than that.

>>868515

How long an AES key is, you homosexual retard?

>>868435

Gas every normalfag trying to worm his way into management. Only techies need apply.

>>868656

this is now a HGST shill thread

>>868466

hack of COMPUTING components, like an actual terminal to use.

You virtually can't hack if you don't have hardware - although conceivably you could by just manipulating sensor input physically and trying to execute commands like that, it's not like you wouldn't be caught immediately.

>>867335

The worst part is that ebooks didn't have to be cancer. They COULD have been an improvement over dead tree format, were it not for the judaism of the publishers.

>>868822

Bigots >>>/out/ >>>/pol/ >>>/suicide/

>>869266

/leftypol/, that's never going to work. I'm not take advice from someone so afraid of opposing views they had to create a leftist safespace on a fucking imageboard.

>>866498

Rob Pike was a mistake.

>>866466 (OP)

Oh I have an idea!

What if The L2 Cache was in the cloud.

Imagine that a lot of people are doing the same command over and over again, that way less computing power is needed since the result is already made by someone else.

how about this

nothing in the could and use local hardware

as much as possible

requires zero effort because its already there

everything is faster than cloud

solved most performance issues with this alone

>>869677

But that'd go against the plan of creating the Botnet of Everything.

>>870053

>AMT

"Ring -3 rootkit" should redirect to the ME article and not to the AMT one. ME sits most deep, AMT is just software that runs on top of it (non-vPro systems don't even have the large ME firmware that includes AMT, but they still have ME).

normalfags will eat this shit up sooner or later

the future is going to be fucking awful

>>868440

>you're dealing with people do retarded they actually use gentoo, slackware, void and arch unironically

Insecure faggot shitposters like you are exactly what we don't need on this board. How about you tell us what great distro you use? You won't because your scared of being made fun of.

>>870091

For the record, I use Gentoo, but the very idea that the distro a person uses can be the object of ridicule/praise is kind of hilarious. These /g/-tier distro epeen stroking threads are just so absurd and pathetic. Don't you two ever step back a think, "Hey, this is kind of a stupid thing to argue over"? Because it is.

Bump, why would anybody fall for this trick?

>>867221

I'll be pursuing this line of thought. Thank you anon.

>>867282

Someone I know thinks we're doomed as a species to cycles of growth and decay, and he can't seem to conceptualize a successful future humanity that even manages to branch out to our own solar system. With the scenarios some anons are presenting, I would rather my friend be right than live in the dystopias we and the corps keep dreaming up. I hope you're right and people massively lose faith in technology (specifically high-end electronics and software) and maybe give ourselves time to unfuck our cultures before we mutate into something even more wretched than we already are.

>>870081

It's always the young generation who is excited about whatever is "new and shiny" and who willingly accepts it. Have you heard teens or even early twens go around complaining about how tech has gone and is going to shit? No, and if, it's an irrelevant minority. The overwhelming majority will accept everything which is served to them by the corporations, they're even proud of rejecting "old shit stuff" with the "new and shiny" things. Back in the 90s there were older people who saying that computers will lead to no good, but do you think that the youth listened to them? Heck no, literally every young person loved computers, loved mobile phones, loved the internet, whatever was new was exciting to them. To today's youth those 90s or even 00s tech is ancient shit which they eagerly believe must be disposed of and replaced with whatever is carefully posed to them as "current" right now. They embrace "social media", chiclet keyboards, stream services as a replacement of buying shit on CDs/DVDs etc., smartphones as a replacement for a personal computer, cameras and microphones everywhere, zero privacy, shitty mainstream operating systems who control the user rather than the other way around, stuffing internet connectivity into everything, and so on and so forth. To them all this is normal and they will fight to defend it and will actively help to kill off what once was. Not every single one of them, but the overwhelming majority, and that's more than enough for those conditioning them to achieve their goals.

>>870641

The promise of convenience and capability sold at the gradual cost of everything else would sum up the whole situation.

>>870641

It's always the young generation who is excited about whatever is "new and shiny" and who willingly accepts it. Have you heard teens or even early twens go around complaining about how tech has gone and is going to shit? No, and if, it's an irrelevant minority. The overwhelming majority will accept everything which is served to them by the corporations, they're even proud of rejecting "old shit stuff" with the "new and shiny" things. Back in the 90s there were older people who saying that computers will lead to no good because they said so, but do you think that the youth listened to them? Heck no, literally every young person loved affordable and cheap computers, loved PDAs, loved the internet, whatever was new was exciting to them. To today's youth those 90s or even 00s tech is ancient shit which they eagerly believe must be disposed of and replaced with whatever is carefully posed to them as "current" right now. They embrace "anonymous imageboards" over real-name identity Usenet and BBS systems, tactile mechanical keyboards, bittorrent as a replacement of buying shit on CDs/DVDs etc., Coreboot laptops with audited boot as a replacement for a personal computer with Clipper chip and backdoored cryptography, cameras and microphones everywhere, so there is less chance for police to frame you for what you didn't do, more privacy, shitty mainstream operating systems that actually don't BSOD every week or so, stuffing internet connectivity into everything without having to pay $500 for 28 kilobaud modem, and so on and so forth. To them all this is normal and they will fight to defend it and will actively help to kill off what once was. Not every single one of them, but the overwhelming majority, and that's more than enough for those conditioning them to achieve their goals.

>>870641

Have you never heard a kid say that they were "born in the wrong generation"?

>>870879

He's probably one of them XD

A millennial born in early 90's calling himself not-millennial.

>>871090

>XD

>>869570

Current date:

Sun Sep 8937 01:06:46 PST 1993

>>870219

Because normalfags are retards that need to be gased.