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>>862066 (OP)

lol just replace emerge with snap and your good to go :>)

>>862067

i'd expect a gentoo user to at least know how to use proper grammar

and at that point why use gentoo over a proper fully-featured distro like fedora, opensuse or ubuntu?

>>862069

memes

>>862069

yea you cant do anything on gentoo

>>862069

You can choose to make it full-featured or highly specialized, it's your choice.

That's one of the main draws.

Of course there are other advantages but I digress.

>>862073

Yeah! Excellent grammar, btw ;^)

FreeBSD > Gentoo. Slackware is pretty good though.

GuixSD or NixOS.

excelent taste. thank you for stating what was in all us sane anon's minds.

Reminder that Clear Linux is Gentoo done (((right)))

>>862069

This 3 distros are systemD pulseaudio trash. And they are not fully-featured because you cannot choose package version.

>>862066 (OP)

Gentoo is not about compiling it's about choise of package version you arch virgin.

>>862143

"(still shit)

are you fucking blind?

systemd hate is a meme, systemd is much better than sysv or openrc, both are built upon old and crusty code, only runit and systemd are good init systems nowadays.

>>862066 (OP)

Why do distros even have different package managers? Is there really still no package manager that would satisfy every autist that they feel the need to make more of them?

>>862073

gentoo is its own purpose.

>>862148

>comparing sysvinit with systemd/openrc

Retards who don't know the difference between /sbin/init and process supervision shouldn't open their hole.

>>862066 (OP)

>>tfw your shitty meme distro doen't even have automatic dependency resolution

What the fuck are you talking about?

>gentoo is obsolete garbage in 2018

Yes, this is why it still has a huge developer and user community behind it. Truly obsolete and dead.

>>compiling takes too long on older systems

Then don't fucking use current packages on old systems. The current build systems and programs are not 10 years ago's programs and build systems, everything is bloated as fuck now. Either use Slackware 3.1 on your Pentium II or fuck off.

>>with newer systems the optimization speed in undetectable

Nobody is using Gentoo for the 1% performance you fucking faggot. You fags are the ones who spouted that bullshit meme.

>even fucking arch (still shit) has proper dependency resolution. the only meme distro even worth considering is void but package manager is a gimmick more than anything else

You still haven't defined what "proper dependency resolution" is.

>>pic related, slackware's "package management" is so fucking horrific some people don't even consider it an actual package manager

It's fine if you don't like shit, but stop trying to project your issues with the software as general issues with the software.

>>862148

>systemd is much better than sysv or openrc,

I'm now convinced that you are paid by Redhat. Fuck off back to where you came from.

>both are built upon old and crusty code,

sysvinit _maybe_, but openrc is fairly modern. Show me openrc code that's supposed to be crusty.

>only runit and systemd are good init systems nowadays.

>projecting this hard

>>862066 (OP)

Look into Alpine Linux.

Thank me later.

>>862066 (OP)

i'd like to resolve op's dependency on air

>>862296

> 12 mb jpg

what an work of autism

>tfw gentoo distro doen't even have automatic dependency resolution

but it literally does.... /thread

>>862192

you don't know what dependency resolution is? proves all of the users of these shit operating systems are elitist fa/g/gots

>>862358

(You) seem to be the one who doesn't know, as Gentoo does have automatic dependency resolution

>>862080

>cuck license

>>862171

Because in the very deep of our brains, we all know the only shit that matters between distros its the command to install a package, so if you wanna do your "own" distro without anybody saying "it's X-based distro" or "it's X clone" you would need to justify your distro by developing your own package manager, unless you wanna go full Canonical and have your distro be known as the "bad"/"bloated" version of the original.

>>862303

It's a Gentoo image that has PORTAGE_BINHOST="https://cloveros.ga" in the /etc/portage/make.conf and packages built with CFLAGS="-Ofast -mmmx -mssse3 -pipe -funroll-loops -flto=8 -floop-block -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -ftree-loop-distribution" Gentoo is hands down the best Linux distro and CloverOS only makes this perfection easier to achieve.

>>862358

When you install firefox on a base system, it transitively brings in about 700 dependencies. They are resolved.

Or do you mean some other bullshit like automatically detecting what dependencies a folder of source code needs (leading to mismatched deps and runtime crashes)?

>>862384

gentoo doesn't have "extreme security", it has marginal security, which is still better than something like Arch or Ubuntu which are just turds.

Been using gentoo with openrc for about two years now. I fucking love it. It helps that I have an 8 core processor. I tried compiling it on an older netbook once and it took several days.

>>862494

>What's wrong with emerge's dependency resolution?

He's probably talking about Slackware. The only way I could imagine him claiming Portage being bad at dependency resolution is if he were just throwing out false accusations to be inflammatory. Everyone knows that Portage is one of the stronger package managers in the Ganoo/Linux world.

you forgot to tag your

cuckchan retardation containment thread

op

how do i emerge shitloads of things at once so when I wake up my frehsly installed gentoo has all my usual software?

>>863592

Do whatever the manual says, then read this entire page and set each variable as needed:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/make.conf

Particularly:

MAKEOPTS="-j32 -l32"

EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=32 --load-average=32 --keep-going"

I'm sure there are more tricks, but this is what I use. Stuff always fails for me and requires masking and whatnot. There is also the jumbo file trick, on the forum, for emerging chromium faster on shitty PCs.

Oh, if you're wondering, emerge takes a list of atoms, not a single atom. Everything is lists or recursing folders of files. I'm sure you can use a file input somehow, too.

I believe you can also add atoms to the world favorites file, then 'emerge -uDNa @world'. I think I've replaced world and edited it manually, like a bad person. There's also a fetch only option if you only want to download packages. There must be a way to more aggressively fetch packages because it takes forever fetching when the particular job comes up.