/tech/ - Technology★

>>848191 (OP)

Done. You see the kind of pull I have?

https://vivaldi.com/source/

>>848208

>>848191 (OP)

Does Vivaldi come with a bunch of hip and useless features I can't easily turn off like Firefox? I'm never using pocket Firefox, I want you to render webpages you FUCK.

>>848217

It seems pretty straight forward from what I've seen. Haven't noticed any features I'ven't made use of/plan to make use of.

>>848217

I have been using it for over a year now and I have founds its quite clean.

>>848208

So your suggesting making a freely licensed fork, kinda like how icecat is to firefox, but with vivaldi? I suppose that's possible.

>>848229

>copy paste someone else's source code but change the license

genius

Oh look, another browser thread!!!

>>848208

>Vivaldi source

I don't think that's the whole source:

>Vivaldi is not made available under one unified open source license. It does contain the Chromium source code with changes made to allow the HTML/CSS/JS based UI to run. All changes to the Chromium source code are made available under a BSD license and can be read by anyone on vivaldi.com/source/. Details in this regard are explained in the the README and LICENSE files within the package. In addition, our UI code is written in plain, accessible code for those who read HTML, CSS and JS. This means that for all practical purposes the Vivaldi source code is available for audit. Vivaldi also contains third party code. Licenses for these parts can be found in the source package and in the installed browser at vivaldi://credits

https://help.vivaldi.com/article/is-vivaldi-open-source/

>>848233

(((they))) are just sliding the technical threads as to shoah them.

>>848233

The browser mentioned is only one example. Their main question about changing good proprietary software to FOSS licenses is the main topic.

>>848191 (OP)

>>848208

>>848217

You're all a bunch of fucking idiots

https://vivaldi.com/privacy/vivaldi-end-user-license-agreement/

>>848245

That doesn't answer OP's question. The goal is to convince the owners to make the official FOSS, as the fact that it is so well made yet remains unfree is kinda sad.

>>848261

Not everyone is interested in communism, go figure.

>>848263

>>>www.4ch.com/g

>>848191 (OP)

>how to convince them that my view on life should be theirs also?

Semi-serious answer: buy their business faggot. That's how you "convince" them. Of course, you will drive development into the grave but that's OK because at least the browser will be moral by your standards!

Only by convincing them that doing so would increase their profits, whether that is true is another matter. This is what the OSI does, the FSF tries to convince users to reject proprietary software, because unlike the amoral beings that are corporations not all of them act solely for short-term profit. You could try Otter Browser which is free software and made to be like old opera as well.

>>848191 (OP)

Yeah, it's a great browser. It's too bad I can't use my favorite firefox plugins with it, and I don't think it has some kind of sync feature, otherwise it would be perfect.

>>848217

>Does Vivaldi come with a bunch of hip and useless features I can't easily turn off like Firefox?

Vivaldi is a HTML+angularjs UI wrapper around vanilla chromium, there also may be an internal webserver running locally for the settings.

The punchline is that you can easily turn them off and get a vanilla chromium experience, which also saves you like 90% of startup time and 50% of page loading.

>>848191 (OP)

Have you wondered why so many cool projects are not using the license you want them to use?

Have you wondered why projects that use the license you want to use seem to be so unfinished?

does it print money? no

goodbye

>shitty chromium with a custom UI and most definitely spyware #2457743277

oh no what will we do without it

>>848261

>That doesn't answer OP's question.

True

>The goal is to convince the owners to make the official FOSS

20 or 30 years ago that would be a challenge but not impossible.

Browsers are impossible to finance without being disturbed by third parties, look at mozilla they literally have millions but they have so much bullshit going one because of compromises

Vivaldy does the same, they do some openwashing, add spyware into the binary and they get money from the data they sell.

Browsers are such a pillar of money and botnet that it's in my opinion impossible to make a project because there's so fucking much bullshit to implement thanks to javascript that it's mandatory to have multiple paid teams working on it everyday plus all of the interest that google and other faggots wants to do with it.

Problem is that nobody wants to pay their software, it's gratis/comes on already installed on the PC, you can thanks microsoft for making this shit reality.

>as the fact that it is so well made yet remains unfree is kinda sad.

>so well made yet remains unfree is kinda sad.

>so well made

One shall judge by the code and nothing else.

>>848263

>Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly.

-RMS

>>848464

Any proof that Vivaldi is spyware?

>>848472

(Beyond being a Chrome clone I mean).

>>848472

>License Proprietary freeware[8]

>>848478

Apples and Oranges.

>>848472

>When you install Vivaldi browser (“Vivaldi”), each installation profile is assigned a unique user ID that is stored on your computer. Vivaldi will send a message using HTTPS directly to our servers located in Iceland every 24 hours containing this ID, version, cpu architecture, screen resolution and time since last message. We anonymize the IP address of Vivaldi users by removing the last octet of the IP address from your Vivaldi client then we store the resolved approximate location after using a local geoip lookup. The purpose of this collection is to determine the total number of active users and their geographical distribution.

>Vivaldi integrates the Safe browsing API from Google, which checks the site you are visiting against a master list of known suspected phishing and malware sites.

>>848191 (OP)

vivaldi is shit. browser plugins are shit. any browser that needs them in order to view a paragraph of text, is shit. perhaps you should change your goal from "moral" to "useful"

>>848493

Now that's a massive red flag. I also wonder if they track the frequency of these unique ids seeing ads for and visiting one of their "partners".

>>848191 (OP)

We aren't using you're shitty browser. Not now, not ever. GTFO.

>>848527

These days I honestly struggle to know which browser is "least shit".

>>848530

This and it feels horrible. I have been bouncing around for about a year now and each one has some flaw that drives me away from it. None of them satisfy me when previously I used the same browser for over 10 years. What a nightmare.

>>848542

To be honest, the one I trust the most is actually Safari, that is taking into consideration their business model. The most secure against outside threats is probably Chrome, but we all know their business model. The other Chrome clones have to make money somehow in dubious ways, and I can see them whoring themselves out to a wider group than even just Google. Firefox I would say is the worst of all; insecure, slow and is cavalier regard to user privacy.

>>848544

*slow and has a

>>848544

Using iridium from mum's laptop with umatrix. Pretty comfy I must say. When I compare it with her backup Qauntum.. whew, no suprise mozilla is fucked. >and is cavalier regards user privacy Where does that came from?

links ftw

>>848563

How about the most recent incident: Installing an extension surreptitiously in partnership with the marketing department for the Mr Robot show. Or how about their Pocket and Telemetry addons.

>>848191 (OP)

>How can one convince a proprietary browser company to go FOSS?

Very fucking impossible with any sort of proprietary software.

>>848544

Apple is part of PRISM, you luser.

>>848869

I'm pretty sure Mozilla is too.

Vivaldi sucks lol

>>848191 (OP)

It's a chrome clone with a bloat interface coded in javascript? Why do you want this as part of your life?

>>848977

>lol

>no argument

>>>/out/

>>>/4chan/

>>848191 (OP)

Become a tranny and explain how their non-free code is persecuting you, anon

>>849265

Falsely claim they only provide sauce to alt-righters.