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 No.836860>>837000 >>838326 >>839600 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

https://lobste.rs/s/l9lmii/ai_assisted_fake_porn_is_here_we_re_all

Videos, like photos, will no longer be able to be trusted very soon.

 No.836865>>837004

Archive it.


 No.836963

Oh, technology is so cool! Definitely it won't be misused, right?


 No.836973>>837004 >>837418

>we're on the verge of living in a world where it's trivially easy to fabricate believable videos of people doing and saying things they never did

>on the verge of

t. slowpoke


 No.836980>>837418

Think of the effect this will have on video evidence in court.

>In this video, you can clearly see the defendant having sex with a minor.

>We'd like to dispute the trustworthiness of that video with THIS video which clearly shows that the true culprit was, in fact, Abraham Lincoln.


 No.836988

ai_assisted_fake_porn_is_here

literally where?

>>>/r/tech/


 No.836994>>837004

archive that shit


 No.836996

I'm guessing all this means is there's gonna be a really high demand of "video footage experts" in the future in order to prove anything by video.


 No.837000

>>836860 (OP)

>I agree with the title’s pun, but not its implied meaning. Whilst porn was the most obvious first application of this technology (the same goes for many technologies!), this looks like a decent way to erode the power of surveillance, especially the rampant spread of CCTV like here in the UK.

>The article’s right that society will need to adjust to this new technology, but porn is just the tip of the iceberg.

it will be trivial to tell the porn is fake and failing that (assuming the tech becomes better at some point) it will be trivial to forensically prove it's fake. of course the top comment is some faggot operating under the premise that this isn't true


 No.837004>>837006 >>837038 >>837418 >>837467

>>836973

The keyword here is "trivially". Also, why the fuck is everyone saging?

>>836865

>>836994

https://web.archive.org/web/20171212000049/https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gydydm/gal-gadot-fake-ai-porn

Can't use archive.fo for some reason. Do it yourselves next time


 No.837006>>837038 >>837046

>>837004

I tried doing it with archive.is, but it didn't work for whatever reason


 No.837016>>837028 >>837447 >>838486

Maybe a camera could use something like steganography to put information in the video proving that it was that camera that made it?


 No.837027

>It's especially striking considering that it's allegedly the work of one person---a Redditor who goes by the name 'deepfakes'—not a big special effects studio that can digitally recreate a young Princess Leia in Rogue One using CGI.

>OMG it's actual people having means to make us believe some bullshit is real and reshape our vision of reality, not just huge corporations and the government being able to do that, what now??? we're all fucked, it's terrible and unthinkable


 No.837028

>>837016

And this couldn't be faked? Please.

This is not only a threat because you can fabricate info, but also because it diminishes the trustworthiness of real evidence.


 No.837038>>837241 >>837438 >>837467

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>>837004

>>837006

Vice was so butt devasted goobers were archiving their shit that they made all their sites archive-proof. They are literally memory holing themselves and thinking they are giving the middle finger


 No.837046>>837048

>>837006

that's a nice looking blender


 No.837048>>837066


 No.837053

>ai_assisted_fake_porn_is_here

Where is the porn eggman

You said there would be porn


 No.837054

here's the video

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey= ph5a27755783e28

anyone have the unshooped version?


 No.837066

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 No.837072>>837127 >>837266 >>838333 >>838487 >>838550

The article is fucking gay, doesn't even link to the video. Some redditard (/u/deepfakes) used TensorFlow and a bunch of other libraries to make some shitty fake nudes in video form. You gotta realize though, fantasy porn is always easier in image form. In video, artifacts are too hard to hide unless it's potato quality. Also faking voice and mannerisms is a whole other can of worms, this one only swaps faces so it's like watching a whore with a decent face mask on and non-existent acting.

Because Vice are cucks here's the goods (I'd post an image but >tor):

>Wonder jewess

>pretty bad, voice barely syncs up, gnarly artifacts on dick sucking (because surprise, no photo of gal gadot sucking dick), it's like nip porn with uglier women

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5a27755783e28

>Quasimodo

>shit quality, very obvious replaced frame because of color mismatch

https://gfycat.com/weepybonykarakul

>Emma Watson

>shit quality, scanlines across her face, also doesn't really look very similar to her

https://gfycat.com/cheerfulmisguidedflyingfox

>Aubrey Plaza (who?)

>scanlines across her face, aliasing, replaced frame clearly visible but at least the original actress makes some interesting faces

https://gfycat.com/SmoothPointlessCoral

>Scarlett Jewhanson

>very bad artifacts (old brow keeps appearing above scarlett's brow), body and hair doesn't look much like scarlett, artifacts

https://gfycat.com/unsungtotalamericancrow

He keeps putting these on SendVid (which Vice thought was "sendvids" lol), and they get taken down, I'm not sure why he doesn't use another site. The gfycat uploads that I found in plebbit comments have the sound removed... How hard can it be to upload a video in this day and age? I guess that's reddit for you. Anyway, generally the quality is very bad. Lots of artifacts, and the replacement is apparently done as a low-res rectangle, meaning there's a discontinuity around the forehead, neck and cheeks where you can see a sudden change from new face to original face. It also doesn't seem to get the hue/tone/lighting right. All the videos are very low quality, because it probably looks even worse on watchable bitrates. tl;dr: Just like the fake celeb nudes we've had for years, but a million times worse, AND he seems to have godawful taste.

The commenter on lobste.rs makes a nice point, though: When this becomes more advanced, it will take a gigantic shit on ubiquitous video surveillance thanks to the "but a hacker could have faked it!" defense.

Incidentally, can any of you shoot a lobste.rs invite to spacelevator@memeware.net?


 No.837127

>>837072

let me fix that for you

>Wonder jewess (who?)

>Quasimodo (who?)

>Emma Watson (who? wait that's some meme on cuckchan)

>Aubrey Plaza (who?)

>Scarlett Jewhanson (who?)

>The commenter on lobste.rs makes a nice point, though: When this becomes more advanced,

in 200 years

>it will take a gigantic shit on ubiquitous video surveillance thanks to the "but a hacker could have faked it!" defense.

the government can get you for any reason they want, and they know what their cameras saw. they don't need to prove it to someone else. they don't believe their off the shelf smart cameras could be hacked unless there's some strong indication. besides if this was true nobody could be arrested for CP because it's extremely easy to plant CP on anyone's computer.


 No.837154>>837241

The clip I saw from the Maisie Williams one did not look half bad at parts. Next step: Easy to use Open source voice synthesis. Then the waifu age will truly be upon us.


 No.837237>>838475 >>839720

File (hide): 65213e606502720⋯.jpg (22.9 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 1512754212866.jpg) (h) (u)

>I showed Alia Janine, a retired porn performer who was in the sex industry for 15 years, the video of Gadot. “It’s really disturbing,” she told me over the phone. “It kind of shows how some men basically only see women as objects that they can manipulate and be forced to do anything they want... It just shows a complete lack of respect for the porn performers in the movie, and also the female actresses.”

>does porn

>complains about women being viewed as sex objects


 No.837241>>837249

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>>837038

Unfortunately for them archive.org still works.

>>837154

Do you suppose an artist could make a second pass over the output of the program, tweaking specific elements to make it more believable?


 No.837246

Haha nice


 No.837249

>>837241

If an artifact is easy to spot, it's easy to fix by hand. It would just take a lot of tedious work. But there were, usually very short, video fakes before there were automated tools to make them. This tech will make it easier to produce good or long fakes for people who really, really care, and short good enough ones for everybody else.


 No.837266>>837271 >>837275

>>837072

these are still impressive. these problems will be ironed out. in 20 years you'll have your VR headset and be banging emma watson / your robo-wifu and japan's birth rate will finally hit zero.


 No.837271>>837272 >>841452

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File (hide): 0265a9dda1a9fc5⋯.jpg (4.77 KB, 480x360, 4:3, serveimage2.jpg) (h) (u)

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>>837266

imagine the possibilities 100 years from now


 No.837272

>>837271

Stone age, and lots of unoccupied but also useless land.


 No.837275>>837299

>>837266

I am not so sure about that. Digital still fakes have not really improve over the last twenty years. They are at a higher resolution and some of the tools are easier to use, but they still have the same problems they always had. There might be less really terrible fakes now, but there are not more good ones. There are probably less really good ones because the culture of autist that produced them was eaten by social media, the mainstreaming of the internet and an overall decline of care and discipline in young men.


 No.837299

>>837275

digital still fakes are easier to nitpick apart, your brain is going to realize it's off. if shit's off in the a video the brain is going to put the pieces together anyway.


 No.837418>>837446

>>836973

I can't wait until the SJWs get a hold of this and use it to rewrite history

>>836980

I laughed harder than I should have.

>>837004

Fucking scrrencap it then.


 No.837421

THE STAR TREK FUTURE WE WERE ALL PROMISED, RIGHT GUYS?


 No.837438>>837488

>>837038

One person can simple screencap and pass the image around. There's lots of ways to dodge clicks.


 No.837446>>837448 >>838672

File (hide): 23b5cfb9244dcb6⋯.jpg (884.93 KB, 2699x2190, 2699:2190, fake.jpg) (h) (u)

>>837418

jews beat them to it already


 No.837447

>>837016

Canon cameras already do this.


 No.837448>>837455

File (hide): 8b583b548eff36d⋯.jpg (1.99 MB, 2236x1676, 559:419, original.jpg) (h) (u)


 No.837455

>>837448

What difference does one standing man do? Those on the bunks already look pitiful.


 No.837467>>837488

>>837004

>>837038

There's workarounds to use archive.is. They're delusional if they think they can stop it.

https://archive.fo/Txwz5

https://archive.fo/jy5jP (I think this one looks better.)


 No.837488

>>837438

Archives can't be tampered like a screenshot can. A bunch of sites were caught deleting and editing stuff too like adding disclosures to their pieces retroactively to avoid being fucked by the FCC

>>837467

Yes but unfortunately most people don't know they can do that, which gives Vice more opportunities to get away with stealth editing shit and claim innocence when all people have is a blocky jpeg screenshot


 No.838326>>838333

File (hide): a28df542b8a37af⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 7.91 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, ColossalAmbitiousCollie.webm) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]

>>836860 (OP)

nearly made another thread on this

whatever happened to putting keywords in subject or image_related.pngs in the op?


 No.838333>>838439

>>837072

>>838326

The artifacts and discontinuities don't look too bad and should be addressable with a trivial amount of time and additional work. As a proof of concept it's quite impressive.


 No.838439

>>838333

Yeah, it does look really promising. So far, it actually looks a lot better than most manual efforts I've seen thus far, and none of those flaws seem like the can't be ironed out.


 No.838475


 No.838486

>>837016

you can identify which camera a video is from using distortions caused by small imperfections in the glass.


 No.838487

>>837072

>>Aubrey Plaza (who?)

The place between her legs is a plaza.


 No.838550


 No.838646>>838694

File (hide): eb4d6076c4cf61f⋯.png (871.96 KB, 955x751, 955:751, the look of desperation.png) (h) (u)

>Ethically, the implications are “huge,” Champandard said.

Hahaha-

>Malicious use of technology often can’t be avoided, but it can be countered.

HAHAHAHA

>“We need to have a very loud and public debate,” he said.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Champandard said researchers can then begin developing technology to detect fake videos and help moderate what’s fake and what isn’t, and internet policy can improve to regulate what happens when these types of forgeries and harassment come up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


 No.838672

File (hide): 9aedde242c259bf⋯.png (567.05 KB, 962x633, 962:633, 13123255246345447665.png) (h) (u)

>>837446

6000000 KIKES


 No.838677>>838717

i feel like this would be better if i knew who galdot wuz


 No.838682>>838694

Oh, great.

People are already retarded enough to believe in all sorts of bullshit without any evidence and now we have the means to fabricate "evidence" on the fly. I can already see the numerous injustices this technology will bring.


 No.838694

>>838646

>>Champandard said researchers can then begin developing technology to detect fake videos and help moderate what’s fake and what isn’t, and internet policy can improve to regulate what happens when these types of forgeries and harassment come up.

It's amazing how goyim will convince themselves of this instantly if this tech was made. If the tech exists it's because it was inevitable, it's not like some unique genius method that some guy stumbled upon by some massive luck. The tech will be made and remade independently by multiple entities and even the one or two products with some watermark will be easily modified to remove it. It will eventually be impossible to tell by forensic methods whether something is fake. That said, we still don't even have something that looks real to a _human_ eye.

>>838682

Did you actually watch the video? It proves the article's title is literally false. The video is full of shit and obviously fake. These news stories are retarded and the people reacting to them look the same as idiots reacting to the end of reality back when photoshopping became a thing.


 No.838717

>>838677

your life was better for not knowing. she's the 98 lb. jewess who plays the Amazon, Wonder Woman, in modern capeshit films


 No.839600

File (hide): dbbd896965bd8f0⋯.mp4 (504.58 KB, 640x356, 160:89, 428ef985294bbaf4cec75eb4b8….mp4) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]


 No.839669>>839684 >>840877

File (hide): 005fb787a477a29⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 92.1 KB, 791x597, 791:597, deepfak.png) (h) (u)

File (hide): 66be60ed05aa90f⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 71.26 KB, 768x448, 12:7, FpfC6kd.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): 1b6b5560f4aa84a⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 682.13 KB, 506x516, 253:258, h0Zb7Ru by HoustonFaceGo.mp4) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]

hmm


 No.839676

People will just use it to brag on facebook. "Look who I banged last night. Here let me show you how I nut on Emma Roberts."


 No.839684


 No.839720

>>837237

Maybe its an epiphany she could have correlated pre-retirement.


 No.840877>>841433

>>839669

I support this effort.


 No.841433

File (hide): d168fa1acd30cbe⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 2.5 MB, 720x720, 1:1, first test - nightmare fue….mp4) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]

>>840877

checked


 No.841452

>>837271

Lmao. That was one of the first DS9 episodes I ever saw. Nana Visitor is so fucking hot holy shit




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